New version for 2017 with a new Euro 6 3 cylinder 1.0 petrol engine for even better economy, also now includes daytime running lights and colour coded bumper's and hill start assist but the price is still the same as previous model....
Petrol Fuel Type
Multipoint sequential Injection Type
3 No. of Cylinders
12 No. of Valves
999 Induction Capacity (cc)
73(54) Maximum Power - hp DIN (kw ISO)
97 Maximum Torque - Nm ISO (mkg DIN)
B4D 411 Engine Type
- Particle Filter
Euro 6 Emission Control Standard
Top comments
Sir Charles
12 Jan 1772#16
All the car experts dismissing a brand new £7k car when they are probably driving around in 52 plate Polos
POWYSWALES
12 Jan 1769#19
Well he is the one laughing as he got a great car from VW group of vehicles. What car do you drive that is so superior?
guttediam
12 Jan 1739#12
Remember when the Kia come out? We all biaaatched about that & look at the prices now!!
So I'm going to test drive one soon & see how it goes. I frankly don't give a damm what others thing! I do need a new motor soon but don't want to pay out the price for this for a two year lease that I won't own afterwords
rolyhubbard
12 Jan 1736#10
tinted windows would be nice, at least you wouldn't be seen driving it
All comments (303)
backinstock
12 Jan 173#1
Hope my neighbour buys one. :smile:
POWYSWALES
12 Jan 171#2
Exterior equipment
Black door handles
Black door mirrors
15" TARKINE steel wheels
Manually adjustable door mirrors
Longitudinal roofbars(Satin chrome on Lauréate/Black on Ambiance)
Tinted windows
Rear wash wipe
Daytime running lights
Body coloured bumpers
15" Steel wheels
Driving & safety
Hill Start Assist
Power assisted steering
Passenger airbag with de-activation function
Anti-lock braking system(ABS)
Tyre pressure monitor
Front side airbags
Emergency Brake Assist (EBA)
Driver airbag
Passenger airbag with deactivation function
Gear shift indicator
Tyre inflation kit
Seating & trim
Front seatbelts
Black interior door handles
3 x 3 point rear seatbelts
ISOFIX points for child seats in both outer rear seats
Height adjustable front headrests
60/40 split folding rear seat
Cerite cloth upholstery
Comfort & convenience
Manual rear windows
Manual front windows
Heated rear window
Heating & ventilation
4 speed heating and ventilation system
Instruments & controls
Outside temperature gauge
TECHNICAL INFORMATION
YOUR VEHICLE
Capacities
50(10.9) Fuel Tank - Litres (Gallons)
Available Specifications
Manual Gearbox Gearbox
75 Maximum Power - hp
4-speed heating and ventilation system Air Conditioning
ESC (Electronic Stability Control) with ASR (Traction control) and Hill Start Assist (HSA) Stabilty Control
B4D 411 Engine
No Satellite navigation Satellite Navigation
Standard roof Sunroof
No Cruise control Cruise Control
DAB/FM/AM radio with AUX input/Bluetooth/USB connection Connectivity
15" TARKINE wheel trims Wheels
Electric Vehicles - Z.E.
Performance
tbc 0-62mph (0-100kph)
tbc Maximum Speed - mph (kph)
Drivetrain
Front-wheel drive Wheels Driven
Body Type
5 No. of Doors
Estate Body Type Classification
Steering
980 Kerb Weight (Excluding Driver) (kg)
2365 Gross Train Weight (kg)
575 Maximum Payload (Including Driver) (kg)
tbc Maximum Towing Weight Unbraked - Driver Only (kg)
tbc Gross Vehicle Weight (kg)
810 Maximum Towing Weight Braked - Driver Only (kg)
Engine
Petrol Fuel Type
Multipoint sequential Injection Type
3 No. of Cylinders
12 No. of Valves
999 Induction Capacity (cc)
73(54) Maximum Power - hp DIN (kw ISO)
97 Maximum Torque - Nm ISO (mkg DIN)
B4D 411 Engine Type
- Particle Filter
Euro 6 Emission Control Standard
Dimensions (mm)
2634 (A) Wheelbase
4501 (B) Overall Length
NC (C) Front Overhang
155 (K) Ground Clearance
1552 (H) Unladen Height
NC Maximum Load Entry Width (Lower Entry Width)
NC (J) Unladen Platform Height
tbc Interior Headroom
1733 (G) Overall width with door mirrors folded
NC (Z2) Load Area Length with Rear Seats Folded
NC (M1) Interior Elbow Cabin Width - Rear
tbc Load Platform Length
NC (G1) Overall width with door mirrors extended
tbc (Z1) Load Area Length
NC Height Including Roof Bars
NC (D) Rear Overhang
1921 (H3) Height with Open Tailgate
1518 Overall Height
NC (M) Interior Elbow Cabin Width - Front
NC (Y1) Maximum Load Entry Width (Floor Level)
NC (Y2) Minimum Load Bay Width
tbc (Z) Height of Rear Opening
Seating
5 No. of Seats
- Ecological Label
Transmission
Manual Gearbox Gearbox Type
5 Number of Forward Gears
Aerodynamics
0.76 Drag Co-efficient/Area (Cd/A)
Volume
573 Maximum Load Volume (Litres or dm3)
NC Minimum Load Volume (Litres or dm3)
NC Standard Load Volume (m3)
imranhepz
12 Jan 177#3
isn't 1 litre a bit small for this size vehicle
carefulbuyer
12 Jan 171#4
many new and larger vehicles now have a 1.0 turbo engine ... mind you 75hp is very 60's Vauxhall vivaesque
Can't see these being fuel efficient you'd need to floor it everywhere to make do 30
androoski
12 Jan 173#9
You would be lucky, I think it was in 1972 when the HC Viva got the 1.8L slant 4 engine option that 77hp was achieved. The standard in the 1970s was a 1256cc ohv engine with 54BHP.
The 1970s HC Viva kerb weight was 833 kg though, compared to this much safer Dacia at 980kg. Both are much lighter than the 1.0L Seat Ateca in the other deal on here, 1300 kg.
rolyhubbard
12 Jan 1736#10
tinted windows would be nice, at least you wouldn't be seen driving it
donslibi
12 Jan 173#11
Thought it was a lease when I first saw the price. Surely can't be very good at this price even if acceptable on paper. Drive won't be refined, poor shifting, forget using the over taking lane, rubbish in getting you out of a bad situation, cheap interior, etc etc
guttediam
12 Jan 1739#12
Remember when the Kia come out? We all biaaatched about that & look at the prices now!!
So I'm going to test drive one soon & see how it goes. I frankly don't give a damm what others thing! I do need a new motor soon but don't want to pay out the price for this for a two year lease that I won't own afterwords
guttediam
12 Jan 17#13
Afterwards
guttediam
12 Jan 173#14
Giving it heat for price
thekanester
12 Jan 175#15
It's £7,000 for a brand new small estate car! Nothing comes close - just try and price anything else up within £4k of this.
Sir Charles
12 Jan 1772#16
All the car experts dismissing a brand new £7k car when they are probably driving around in 52 plate Polos
Teezer
12 Jan 171#17
My neighbour bought a new Skoda last year, I've never let him live it down, imagine my joy if he got one of these next. Fingers crossed.
boostii
12 Jan 171#18
tbc Gross Vehicle Weight (kg)
I don't know how much this weights either, but it is definitely a gross vehicle.
POWYSWALES
12 Jan 1769#19
Well he is the one laughing as he got a great car from VW group of vehicles. What car do you drive that is so superior?
brooky
12 Jan 171#20
Tee hee just imagine!!!
boostii
12 Jan 174#21
LOL, it was him correcting his own typo :laughing:
jumbosausage
12 Jan 1715#22
You sound like you drive one of these....
POWYSWALES
12 Jan 175#23
I Think they look quite presentable, it's not like years ago when you had box shaped Lada's or yugo's.
The interior looks very presentable to me also
This will be nigh on dangerously slow when full of people..
kaizhu79
12 Jan 17#26
Presentable? It looks like the inside of a 12V toy car.
Good price, BUT......
lump
12 Jan 171#27
So it comes with a steering wheel then?
Voted hot. It's a lof of decent car for the money.
Krizzo3
12 Jan 17#28
Would I keep up with the Joneses in this?
Krizzo3
12 Jan 173#29
But wont get you in debt to the degree other cars would, financial safety not important?
Much rather be in debt but safe on the road? :smile:
People drive less powerful cars and are still alive.
Safety is a relative thing with more factors than the vehicle itself.
onlineo
12 Jan 176#30
lol I think you may have a problem. We have a new Yeti and an 11 reg Golf. The Skoda is always used, it is way better car.
onlineo
12 Jan 17#31
Good price, not sure I would like to drive this car, but ... Some may do. test drive it if you fancy it
jongerry
12 Jan 172#32
This sounds like a very interesting and value for money vehicle.
I've bought Mercedes for the last 35 years but I would consider one of these for a second car. Anybody who sneers has the problem not me. I ran a Berlingo as a second car a few years ago and that was a lot of fun,it didn't have a speedo it had a calendar but I really liked it . You can tell my Merc its got a sign in the window,"my other car is a Panda" and it is.
donnyorourke
12 Jan 172#33
It is essentially a Renault using tried and tested Clio mk2/3 and Megane mk2 tried and tested technology. It is cheap and nasty but for the price can't you really argue?
kaptin_d
12 Jan 17#34
This price is crazy. Voted hot. However I'm not sure you'll get past 10 mph with an1 litre engine! I know we're muc more efficient these days and 1l is like a 1.4 from 10 years ago but that's quite a large car for such a small engine
Common Sense
12 Jan 173#35
Manual rear windows
Manual front windows
20th century spec!
But 3 year warranty! Add £850 for 7 years total (then throw away). Less than £1121 a year plus any servicing etc. Cheap motoring!
POWYSWALES
12 Jan 173#36
Also that may be of interest to some there is an even cheaper version at just £5995
yes they feel cheap inside and the door handles are awful, but if you want a larger car that can cart kids and dogs round and have the piece of mind of a 3 year warranty, you can't go wrong with it. perfect for families that don't have the luxury of a load of spare cash. The lack of air con is an issue though! windows don't cut the mustard when its cold and you want to demist your windows
tickedon
12 Jan 172#38
Whereas I would absolutely hate to be stuck owning one of these!
I would much prefer to buy a £7k used car for this price, but each to their own.
POWYSWALES
12 Jan 171#39
75bhp in a vehicle weighing less than 1000kgs so it should be as bad as you may think. For example a new Vauxhall Corsa sting 1.4 is only 73bhp but weighs 1160kgs.
ezzer72
12 Jan 1711#40
I admit to being a bit biased, but things have moved on a little in Kia World...
:smiley:
McHotpoon
12 Jan 171#41
Looking to change our family car, was looking to go for another Insignia or Mondeo but really liking the Skoda Superb.
GAVINLEWISHUKD
12 Jan 175#42
To put this into perspective. I could rent my house out for a year, buy the car and run it (10,000 miles) chuck a mattress in the back and buy a yearly gym pass (toilet, hot shower) and still have money for a coffee on the way to work!
In reality it's a 'white goods' car. It will get the kids to school, dog to the park or a trolley full of shopping and will take your junk to the tip on a Sunday afternoon for little outlay. If you accept it for what it is and costs you will be fine.
GAVINLEWISHUKD
12 Jan 171#43
Until they put the steering wheel on the correct side of the car I'm not accepting your argument! :man:
Not sure of the small engine, but we have the diesel one of these, its never going to be the most tactile of places to sit, but does 60mpg with regular short trips, 70mpg+ on long journeys, zero RFL, and cheap servicing.
Two and a half years old and no reliability issues to speak of at all.
I was in the motor trade for 6 years and saw a lot worse cars than this from main stream manufacturers.
gadgetking53
12 Jan 174#46
I'd seriously pop down to your local showroom and have a look and a test drive. I had a Sandero (essentially the non estate version of this) for 3 years and now have the Dacia Duster. Refined it isn't but you won't find find better value motors anywhere, And because they are so cheap, they hold good value.
Most parts are Renault anyway. I was really pleased with the Sandero but wanted a bigger car, hence the Duster. Great car for the money especially if you fancy the 4WD version. I have the new prestige model with 7" media nav and reversing camera, black alloys. I'm always being asked about it. Don't expect quality but they are value for money.
guttediam
12 Jan 172#47
Agree but if you have bad luck the 7grand motor could be a money-pit. This is new & under warranty, what am I doing? Am I trying to sell this car to myself.
vulcanproject
12 Jan 173#48
Euro 6 :disappointed: Killing off fun performance cars one cubic centimetre at a time
shapalando
13 Jan 17#49
mine did lol, never seen such an awful car. it is the most basic it comes he told me which would probably explain how bad it looks. :laughing:
ansonuk
13 Jan 17#50
I will not buy anything Romanian
qwerta369
13 Jan 17#51
What's wrong with Romanian things?
SENNYO1
13 Jan 171#52
Probably keep up with no body in this they'll all be overtaking you :laughing:
muz379
13 Jan 173#53
Its reasonably obvious though from the sales success of car shaped objects like the old Aygo , Peugeut 107 and the Citeron C1 that there is a big market out there for people who do not care about refinement , how the gearbox shifts or what the handling is like they simply want something with wheels and an engine to get them from A to B Personally I see no issue with that its horses for courses . Its impressive that you can get a brand new car with the load space this has for the price that this is .
Personally I would rather hedge my bets (the key thing is to know that you are hedging your bets ) with something used and get something of higher spec but I do have some mechanical skills and friends with tools and I have other means of getting to work which reduces the risks and costs of a used car . But I can see why these cars are incredibly appealing to people who want financial certainty . 3 years warranty as standard and I believe if you get this car on HP over 5 years then the warranty is extended to 5 years .
Often on threads for low powered cars like this you hear the "rubbish in getting you out of a bad situation" , dont drive a car with less than 250bhp you will die rubbish . I have and often do drive cars with lower power to weight ratios than this car . For 2 years I drove a 1.1l 54bhp fiat panda and I never once got into a bad situation . I think it is worth mentioning that people often end up in bad situations through over estimating their own or their vehicles capabilities . Drive sensibly in accordance with your own and your vehicles limitations and you will never have a bad situation that you need to get out of . You do not need a certain power to weight ratio to be safe you just need common sense
kashif18
13 Jan 175#54
Shut up people. All this snobbery!! New car with warranty £7k what more do you want? You want refinement? Buy a 10-12 year old s class or bmw 7 series. 100k+ miles. Loads of refinement plenty of toys plenty of expensive problem. Higher running costs, more fuel, more polluting, more money to lose in depreciation. Yes you can buy a golf used which i guess is comparable, however thats like buying your self undies from oxfam as opposed to buying new from primark. Get me blud?
thabiz
13 Jan 171#55
These would make good local taxis. MPV and Estates are the most practical car styles ("crossovers" are generally just MPV's for the style conscious, very few need AWD, RWD also sucks for most day to day driving, ironically we own a Merc and a Subaru, but FWD is the most common drive train for good reason). As much as I love diesel, you would probably be better off with the petrol as modern euro 6 compliant diesels will surely be EGR'd and DPF'd to heck, plus the powers that be have got a war on derv planned. Good diesels were the older 1.9SDi/TDi VAG, or the old non turbo Pug XUD, and the 90bhp 2.0HDi 8v. £1000 will get you good examples of those
Also in my opinion manual wind down windows are better than electric as you can escape in water, simple heater blowers are better than "automatic air con climate control" that you have to fannie about with and cycle through many options when all you want is medium heat and blowers on the windscreen.
Steel wheels are also generally lighter than factory fitted alloys, normal profile tyres also give better real world handling and you will have tons of good cheapies to choose from on mytyres. I just wish they made this available, for the same price, with a proper 4 speed torque converter auto box, Jatco or Aisin preferably.
Does anyone know if these have the dreaded dual mass flywheel?. I hope they don't.
HOT deal, I don't see them making much profit on these.
canton76a
13 Jan 172#56
I found myself in a bad situation once when I drove my Peugeot 407 on a road so bad that I had to ask my wife and another passenger to get off and walk so I won't drag my car on the rocks, yet somebody passed along in one of these without a care in the world. They really have good ground clearance.
te721
13 Jan 171#57
these cars are cheap, but i think it's good there are lower end cars out there at this price available, it gives choice. If you want extras than you will pay for it but I've found over the years people are regularly buying cars with equipment they do not need or use. the other thing is even a fully speced up one these still works out a lot better a value for money than the equivalent Ford, Vauxhall etc. Each to their own but you may find your missing out if you pre judge.
macdazz
13 Jan 171#58
there still waiting :confused:
macdazz
13 Jan 17#59
a lot of car for the money :smiley:
jcluk
13 Jan 171#60
Certainly better than a (f)lease. :smiley:
jb66
13 Jan 17#61
Perfect for an uber or private hire!
hcc27
13 Jan 17#62
That's Peter Shreyer of Audi TT fame sprinkling his magic dust.
Joe90_guy
13 Jan 172#63
Euro 5 - killing off people one Londoner at a time...
ezzer72
13 Jan 171#64
Nice to see that we have some members from across The Channel, bonjour!
:wink:
ezzer72
13 Jan 17#65
Actually, some other guy has designed the last few cars (including this one), Gregoire Guillame I think his name is.
I'm sure Mr Schreyer is in charge of the rubber stamp though :smiley:
simonmcnair
13 Jan 17#66
The guy famous for stamping on a beetle and calling it a TT? Please...
ezzer72
13 Jan 17#67
He designed the Beetle too.
ws007
13 Jan 171#68
have you driven the latest coffin`s?
there really not that bad,
they've come a long way from when you just used to put dead people in them. :wink:
tickedon
13 Jan 171#69
There's a happy medium between buying this new and a 10-12 year old S class or similar.
For example you can buy a 2.5 year old Ford Focus or slightly older Skoda Octavia for the same money as this, which will still have some manufacturer warranty remaining and likely a 1 or 2 year warranty via dealership depending on where you buy it.
aurora
13 Jan 17#70
We have a Hyundai i10, bought new - no real trouble in 8 years. Ok the interior is plasticky but as a city car it is excellent. Don't dismiss these low price vehicles until you have tried them.
shauneco
13 Jan 17#71
Well I wouldn't be seen dead in one :wink:.
On a serious note it' a brand new car for £7k bargain if you want a new car that gets you from A-B, Sometimes having less electrics i,e electric windows etc. = less to go wrong, Being basically a cheap Renault less electrics is most certainly a good thing.
eternald
13 Jan 17#72
thats the first thing I thought too.
aishakhan894
13 Jan 17#73
Chiptivo
13 Jan 17#74
Only a reg snob would even think about a car like this.
Would rather buy a half decent quality car that is 5 years old for this money.
False economy.
POWYSWALES
13 Jan 17#75
But what if the used car turns out to be a bum, buying second hand is a risk, the Dacia comes with 3 year warranty taking that risk away.
Most places have a warranty, or alternatively you can buy one at a reasonable cost.
retrogeezer
13 Jan 17#78
That will be why it looks like an Audi A7 then...
te721
13 Jan 174#79
Some incredible comments here... a new car is better then a used car, manufacturers warranty out does any used car warranty and Renault / Dacia customer service is also really good. the car is cheap all cars lose money but if it's cheap to start with it can't lose much. also with the sales going up each year and market share growing the more and more people are clearly seeing this. As much as i would like to be driving a Bentley, i can't afford to live that life.
POWYSWALES
13 Jan 172#80
Buying used car warranty's are not the same, most of the time you have to pay out for the repairs first and hope they will send you a cheque, they are very limited warranty's compared to manufacture warranty's.
POWYSWALES
13 Jan 17#81
The clue is here "there was a man with a lorry waiting to take the 911 Turbo I’d been using back to Porsche" if I went straight from the 911 turbo to the Dacia I would think but was underpowered and of poorer quality. Clarkson would put most family cars down.
Cameron92
13 Jan 17#82
Broken Brexit Britain will soon mean we are all driving cars like this.
vennuth1
13 Jan 17#83
He drives a plethora of different vehicles daily and it's his job to objectively assess each of them accordingly. It wasn't a twin-test with the 911. Also, his daily driver is a family vehicle (Golf) which he constantly champions, and proposes as a better value used-purchase than a new Dacia.
YouDealTroll
13 Jan 17#84
Wow you must be a right hoot
sparklehedgehog
13 Jan 17#85
Hill start when it won't even have enough power to get the said hill???
sparklehedgehog
13 Jan 17#86
It should have a turbo if it's only a 1 litre. Ridiculous to expect this to be adequately usable
sparklehedgehog
13 Jan 17#87
Especially in this size vehicle
Aengil
13 Jan 178#88
I have the 2014 model, with the 898cc engine.
Apparently this means I'm unable to reach 60mph, can only just about get from A to B, and also, I'm dead, both from being unable to get out of a bad situation and from embarrassment.
News to me. It's been fine, especially for the money, and not just for the daily commute. We've moved house twice with the Logan doing a lot of the work, and we've been to Italy and back in it, via the Alps, with no problems, whether cruising down the autoroute at 80mph, or driving up the D213 to Les Deux Alpes.
I mean, the engine may be small, but it still has more power than the 1700cc diesel astra I had in the 90s. Granted, the model in this deal has a different engine (mine's the Lauréate TCe 90 which is £9,995 new), but this one is still more powerful than that 1700cc astra. It's a perfectly decent car, especially for the price.
That's not to say it's the ideal car for everyone's circumstances, but it works great for mine, and for anyone on a budget who needs the space, I'd be happy to recommend it (I wouldn't reject second-hand alternatives out of hand, but there's more risk of unexpected costs and repairs sooner, which if you're on a budget, isn't ideal).
A lot of car for that money. Warranty included. Bargain.
On the other hand, I know most of you drive RollsRoyce's so this might not be an option for you.
spruceyb
13 Jan 17#91
Retro Chic Windows
nickmorc
13 Jan 173#92
Great value, badge snobs and trolls need not apply.
Know someone, who has the hatchback version, loves the car, loads around my neck of the woods.
Rather have this than some 3 year old car that had someone else breaking wind on the seat, being sick in it and all other manner of things going on in it.
qwerty212
13 Jan 17#93
0 - 60 ?
Yes.
POWYSWALES
13 Jan 172#94
It has more power to weigh ratio than the new Vauxhall Corsa 1.4 sting. Dacia is 75bhp @980kg. Corsa is 73bhp @1160kg
ho5dow
13 Jan 17#95
most brand air conditioning come as standard. this make it look cheap without air conditioning.
i prefer a car with air conditioning which this does not have.
the next model up cost £1800 more (£8795).
thelagmonster
13 Jan 17#96
Amazing price for a brand new car of that size. Personally wouldn't go anywhere near it, but for people that just want to get from A to B as cheaply as possible in a new car, this offers serious value for money (assuming reliability is good).
clsss
13 Jan 173#97
we bought a dci sandero stepway 3 years ago and its been great.. 31k on the clock with zero issues... the trim is cheap and plastic but when you have 2 young kids to get around and its battered on the school run and shopping who cares... does an average 55mpg and I've so far serviced it myself at a cost of £50/year for oil and filters... cheap A to B motoring
Sania34
13 Jan 17#98
COLD I only like 3.0
vladdy
13 Jan 17#99
Which is generally all you need! :smiley:
Andy306
13 Jan 17#100
what a soul destroying car, it will be super efficient as you won't want to drive it!
oldsystem
13 Jan 171#101
Dacia, with these colour coded bumpers you are really spoiling us.
benlondon
13 Jan 17#102
all dependent on what you earn isn't it, believe it not some people earn enough to buy expensive cars without being in debt, you seem quite hung up on that, jealousy perhaps
eset12345
13 Jan 17#103
nowt wrong with a 52 plate polo you car snob, it will likely outlast this piece of cheap junk
mattym129
13 Jan 171#104
Modern cars are not necessarily more efficient (they are, but that's besides the point) - the tolerances and engineering have improved, so the manufacturer can squirt more fuel in to a 1.0L and obtain 1.4L performance without the engine failing.
Likewise, Ford have obtained 1.8L performance from a 1.0L with a turbo - the Mk3 Focus 1.0 Ecoboost has more BHP than my old Mk1 Focus 1.8! Quite staggering really.
This car will move reasonably well, but the cheapness will show like any budget french car (Citroen C3/C1 comes to mind). Being brand new will make it seem nicer than it is, give it 10 years and these will be as desirable as a Daihatsu Sirion.
jaydeeuk1
13 Jan 17#105
3 year old logans are a touch under £4k on autotrader from dealer, so probably £3500 private, so £3k-£3.5k depreciation over 3 years aint bad, although this is more the type of car you buy and run till it dies or pass on to a family member.
muz379
13 Jan 171#106
Having driven a sandero 0.9tce I completely agree that that engine is actually pretty decent having been used across the Renault range .
Only thing worth mentioning though is that the 0.9tce is turbo which does give that little bit extra HP vs this 1.0l engine with no turbo . I certainly would expect this to be a bit more sluggish compared to the sandero . That being said as others have said it will still have performance comparable to a lot of cars from "better" manufacturers on sale today . Its not as if dacia is offering something that performance wise will be worse than anything else on sale . The savings will be apparent in things like the quality of interior , quality of parts , basic spec .
jaydeeuk1
13 Jan 17#107
Petrol tech is still way ahead of diesel, although EU regs on diesel emissions also hamper them. A 2.0 turbo petrol from 20 years ago is light years ahead in performance over any 2.0 turbo diesel.
hotyoda
13 Jan 17#108
LOL I've found a new game...spotting the comments which sound like Trump tweets! :smile:
I probably do need to get out more though.
mcsmik
13 Jan 17#109
honestly something "new" isn't always the best option just because it's new. I'd suggest a 3 year old honda civic for the same money. It will come with electric windows, will be quicker, better looking (arguably of course) and more comfortable. Been in one of these Logans, not a horrible car but it does scream "you get what you pay for" inside to be honest.
dezontk
13 Jan 17#110
Beast. But 73hp in an estate? Less hp/torque does not mean better economy.. You'll be burning more fuel for longer trying to get anywhere / move off. Saving grace that this is apparently quite light. Good car for your nan so she doesn't hurt herself.
lmosciszko
13 Jan 17#111
If you dont like Dacia maybe you will prefer to buy nissan? , Nissan Aprio looks very nice and have excellent reviews...
simonturner69
13 Jan 17#112
1 litre, 73hp and an estate.
I'm not sure these are a great combination.
Happy to be proved wrong though.
Krizzo3
13 Jan 173#113
Working in bmw dealership I can tell you not many people buy outright, people are only interested in the monthly figure and down payment.
Joe90_guy
13 Jan 171#114
Hang on! I had a 2006 Daihatsu Sirion and it was a marvellous, little car. Reliable, practical, utterly trouble-free and over the seven years I owned it, it averaged just under 60 mpg. I would have bought another had Daihatsu not withdrawn from the UK market. Eventually gave it away to my daughter who's husband drove it into a herd of deer! Sadly it was never quite the same car afterwards.
Regarding efficiency, just for a lark, I thought I'd compare my first car, a 1972 Mk III Austin 1100, to my current drive; a Suzuki Celerio (with a 1000 cc n/a engine). The Austin's engine had a compression ratio of 8.5:1, developed 48 HP, used thick 20W50 oil and 'officially' did 33 mpg (although I suspect mine never managed that). The Celerio's engine has a compression ratio of 11.0:1, develops 67 HP, uses super thin 0W20 and does about 70 mpg (even in winter). Probably the only area where the Austin was competitive on was curb weight because mine used to have so many rust holes in the bodywork!
In before "Kia is the best manufa- ....oh ... hang on ...
lovelybeer
13 Jan 172#117
You're right and I see a lot more of these on the roads each year. When I was working in Romania, Dacia were the standard issue taxis (it was a saloon Clio basically). Functional, light and cheap - ideal for the requirements.
For people who just (and most sensibly, in all reality) treat a car like a tool for getting from A to B safely, it's a great deal. I wish I was able to be as pragmatic, but I enjoy driving a lot and would miss creature comforts.
Though despite all that, I know that I pay a premium for these :disappointed: Cars are a weakness for many!
alfreer1
13 Jan 171#118
I agree 100%.
I've also got the Lauréate TCe 90 turbo 0.9litre. with the addition of aircon, full elecs, colour coding, satnav, tints, alloys and extended warranty mine came to 10k.
I've done 35k miles over 2 1/2years. Averaging 50mpg using cruise control on motorways.
I don't mind it.
Can't comment on the new engine variant without the turbo.
cuslund
13 Jan 17#119
No, 'a car for the money', NOT 'a lot of car for the money'
qwerta369
13 Jan 17#120
As the 116th post you're not in before anything.
AadilF1
13 Jan 17#121
First time in ages I've properly gasped at a car, that thing is stunning!
cuslund
13 Jan 17#122
Hahahah, well said - Cant belive this has got hot, are people aware this is a Dacia! think i will stick with my White Audi A6 Allroad! - You get what you pay for in life! PS - your not invited to my house, dont want that car on my drive!
cuslund
13 Jan 17#123
Still a KIA badge though!
lovelybeer
13 Jan 174#124
Then why comment? This clearly isn't aimed at company car drivers, is it?
But you're right - you get what you pay for. Owners of this buy a cost-effective utility and spend/save the rest of their money for more important things :wink:
cuslund
13 Jan 17#125
Who says its a company car - BIK would be riduclous! It all mine - and yes, you keep saving your money for 99p Macdonalds saver menu drive thru with your dacia hahahaha!
cuslund
13 Jan 17#126
and this is £43k - rip off!
POWYSWALES
13 Jan 17#127
Are you taking it out of the UK then?
lovelybeer
13 Jan 17#128
Well even more pertinent - why is a person financing an A6, looking at a cash deal on a Dacia?
I'm not interested in 99% of deals, so don't comment on them.
Don't feed the troll, right? Maybe it's too late...
AadilF1
13 Jan 171#129
Don't be such a **** :smiley:
lovelybeer
13 Jan 17#130
(it's a semi-in joke, but appreciate the sentiment :smiley: )
cuslund
13 Jan 17#131
Actually my borther wants a dacia, hence looking, but doesnt come close to an audi allroad! Not even close!
cuslund
13 Jan 17#132
**** STAR?
DocRobotnik
13 Jan 171#133
I got myself a nearly new Kia Ceed in 2008 for a bargain price at an official dealer (had about 5k miles of test drives on the clock). New Ceeds now selling for almost double what I paid then. Been an amazing car,
POWYSWALES
13 Jan 171#134
As I said earlier, the new Vauxhall Corsa sting 1.4 is only 73bhp and weighs 1160kg this Dacia is 75bhp and weighs only 980kgs so actually has better power to weight ratio, but if this was the Corsa deal you would not be commenting how the Corsa is to heavy for its engine.
cuslund
13 Jan 17#135
Only trolling - For £6k, you cant go wrong, and even if it does, you get a 3 year warranty!
And for the same nonsensical reason, I'm guessing you don't come close to an A6 Allroad either. Jus' sayin'.
bigcul1
13 Jan 17#139
what happened to buying a car simply because it looked ace. this is what cars have come to, a box on wheels. whoever buys this has no interest whatsoever in cars and unfortunately manufacturers simply don't care how dull their cars are if people keep buying them . this is a monstrosity. boring dull. cold cold cold.
dunstun
13 Jan 173#140
How small minded or snobbish people are and how so many make stupid comments without any knowledge. I have bought the duster, I tried out all variants but didn't want the Logan as I was downsizing from a C5. The petrol engine was a .9 at the time and it went, very well but the difference is the torque isn't the same [in ALL petrol engines] as the diesel- I was really surprised at the power for such a small engine! My neighbour has one and he swears by it and prefers to drive it than the Honda SUV he has. Myself I much prefer my Duster than my C5 Citroen Exclusive that I have driven for 6 years even though it has a fraction of the gizmos. I actually chose it instead of a 2014 C5 airsteam at the same price. So go and try one- I am not a salesman but the stupidity of the remarks do astound me!!!!
POWYSWALES
13 Jan 172#141
A lot of people are more interested in economy and reliability over looks. My brother in law purchased a 7 series BMW on finance, his hours got cut and he could not afford his mortgage, so his family have lost there home all because he thought everyone would drool over his new car, when in reality nobody was interested as they have more important things going on in there lives.
craigefoster
13 Jan 17#142
Good car for dogging perposes, hmmm hot.
pompey_squee
13 Jan 171#143
thats because a 52 Polo will have a better build quality than this. New cars = throwaway cars.
MINCER
13 Jan 17#144
Mark 1 Sirion granted, but not a Mark 2, before Daihatsu pulled out of Europe - best in class for MOT passes, Tif Needell's best budget buy, same base 1.0 engine as the Aygo/C1/107 & Yaris. I've had 2 and they were the most reliable cars I have owned in 34 years of motoring even if they do look like a box on wheels.
cheshire_carper
13 Jan 17#145
I like the Dacia brand and I don't drive a 52 plate Polo. So your theory may have substance.
The 1.0L engine used in the Aygo/Yaris was actually designed by Daihatsu when Daihatsu were part owned by Toyota. I think they are now fully owned because Toyota wanted their small car expertise. I read recently that Toyota have co-opted Suzuki into doing joint R&D for similar reasons.
Joe90_guy
13 Jan 17#148
You dog porpoises? Yuk!
ohmycrickey
13 Jan 17#149
what an absolutely fugly car!!!!!!awful. Cheap yes. cause it looks cheap and naff!!!!!!!
MINCER
13 Jan 171#150
Best look out for Continental, Michelin and Pirelli, Ford, Makita, Nokia/Alcatel/Erricsson, Ikea, Pierre Cardin, Hugo Boss, Levis, Marks & Spencer, Bitdefender and Samsung monitors.
MINCER
13 Jan 17#151
Toyota bought Daihatsu out completely last year - Sirion MK 2 is rebadged as a Toyota Passo in Japan and I don't think Toyota stick their badge on any old tat.
Latest 2016 facelift
cliosport65
13 Jan 17#152
this one is a non turbo 1.0 :wink:
poochieparker9
13 Jan 17#153
For those unsure about buying a new car, I will give my own verdict. Admittedly, not this brand.
I bought a brand new car last year, have to say hands down, one of the best purchases I've made. I know how it's been driven (bar the apes at import and dealership). Nicely equipped with Modern comforts.
of course the price drops like a lead balloon, this I know. But I also know that I have pretty much hassle free driving for the three years I will keep. And a lot of money I lose in depreciation is offset against higher running costs. And, it's my money to lose, I don't have to worry about the mileage as I would possibly have to, if it were a lease.
only down side of a new car is leaving it in a car park.
ollie87
13 Jan 17#154
Also,
insky
13 Jan 171#155
If the two ladies are free gifts when buying this car, I am in.
bfreesun
13 Jan 17#156
dacia logan mcv 2017 review.
A quick look at google shows Autocar and Autoexpress giving it 4stars.
I'd be prepared to test drive if before dismissing it
cicobuff
13 Jan 17#157
The 'Ambiance' version with such extras the majority take as standard features these days is 1K more, DAB radio with front and rear speakers, manual air con and front electric windows.
Unless anyone knows how to retrofit them for cheaper, I don't think many would want to consider anything less.
JeffsterRule
13 Jan 17#158
At this price car is almost becoming a consumable.
wraithchild
13 Jan 17#159
I've now had a duster for a year (I did spend a bit over base spec though) and I have to say its been great.
Comfy, did a 2k round Europe drive with no issues.
Yes its not top notch quality, but its also not poor quality and I'm really happy. There wasnt anything near the spec for the price / warranty etc.
I'd buy again.
When I tried them the Logan was the other one I considered as it had a very comfortable driving position and good visibility.
Better engine and cheap price? hot!
alltaken123
13 Jan 17#160
This or a second hand car with warranty? If the former why not the latter, warranty woes? Could a warranty match be found that is likely as good as a manufacturers offering, but much more car for the money?
Genuinely interested in the answer, I assume if warranty can be matched then you would likely only go for the dacia for the 'new' aspect, ironic considering the snobs of this thread are considered to be those looking down on the dacia.
united4eva
13 Jan 17#161
Wow... So much car for so little money. If only we all used logic when making purchases..
djames108
13 Jan 17#162
it is when that equates to almost 50% of the original price :smile:
Sukh96
13 Jan 171#163
Bought 3 to sell on eBay and use the profit to buy one for myself.
joehart2
13 Jan 17#164
An absolute bargain is the Dacia Logan MCV
the boot on it is simply huge!
The new 1.0 engine looks good
joehart2
13 Jan 172#165
you cant get a ford focus petrol estate even in the most basic trim brand new for under £16,000
after 3 years and 30,000 miles a basic focus is scheduled to be worth £6850 in average condition
thats a loss of over £9000! and the boot is smaller than the Logans!
royals
13 Jan 171#166
Engines nowadays are incredible eg Golf R/Audi s3 are just 2 litre 4 cylinder engines but they are near enough as quick as a 6.3 V8 C63, the 1.4 turbo VAG petrol engine you see in the Audi Q2 is much quicker and more powerful than the 2 litre engine of about 5 years ago
Alfsmum
13 Jan 177#167
Well sorry all your p--s takers on here but I can honestly say that for the money, they're one hell of a bargain. I bought one last march after owning a Stepway for two years ( and got such a good buyback price that I couldn't believe it ) . It's a piece of cake to drive even for an old lady like myself, same on petrol as the Stepway, and the Kia before that. Basic model has no frills or fancies but that's why they sell three models - you want the extras you pay for them. Me, I wanted something cheap and reliable to get around in, with all the warranties etc that you get with a new car. And one thing I will say, the servicing is cheap and very good compared to the Kia which was outrageously expensive . If you want to drive around in an expensive top of the range car, go for it - just remember that some of us cant afford to do that, so when it comes to something very reliable and excellent value for money , this one is a no brainer. ( Also it has one hell of a boot which is ideal for anyone with a buggy, or workmen with toolboxes etc. I've had my say - now I have to go lie down after that little hissy fit...!!!
archieunkerb
13 Jan 171#168
You lot talk a load of crap £7k for a brand new car with 5 years warranty. Cheap motoring. To many stuck up snobs in this world. I'm guessing most of you drive 30-40k motors. Yet your on a bargain searching site. :disappointed:
mrtnrwn
13 Jan 171#169
I'd rather be seen dead in a... :neutral_face:
GAVINLEWISHUKD
13 Jan 171#170
Undoubtedly a better car in every respect. Sadly the cheapest civic estate on autotrader is over £10k, 45k on the clock and no warranty. That's nearly 50% more expensive.
It's a choice. If you just want transport, that is exactly what it delivers for a tiny price tag.
While it will sound silly it is best in class for the simple reason it's the only car in its class. Most competitor's are twice the price.
archieunkerb
13 Jan 17#171
What do you drive ?
RealDash
13 Jan 172#172
Medium sized estate with 1L, 3 Cylinders AND particulate filter? If this was a lawn mower it wouldnt even cut long grass!
newdealchaser
13 Jan 17#173
Is it made by Renault and is it like Renault Logan?
POWYSWALES
13 Jan 17#174
It only weighs 980kg so has a better power to weight ratio than a lot of other 1.4 litre cars.
MaximusRo
13 Jan 17#175
"B4D 411 Engine Type
- Particle Filter"
Does this mean this car has a particle filter?
bma1445
13 Jan 17#176
The problem with these tiny engined cars is that they're perfectly fine going from 0-30. It's going from 60-70, etc, where the problems start.
My first car was little fiat punto with a 60bhp engine (when new so probably quite a few less). Going on the motorway it badly struggled when accelerating above 40mph.
Joe90_guy
13 Jan 17#177
Yes, but the engine used in the Toyota definitely came out of the Daihatsu design office. I got this from our Japanese OEM Liason guy so I'm assuming it's correct. Wikipedia seems to agree (read the first paragraph)...
Only if you don't drive appropriately. I used to drive my sisters Citroen with 37bhp which was perfectly capable in modern traffic. What makes people think they need 200bhp to stay OUT of trouble? More power is VERY rarely needed (yes I understand the want).
vtec
13 Jan 171#181
Bought 3 coffins to sell on eBay and use the profit to by one coffin for myself. Doesn't sound very profitable now does it.
Is it just me or does anyone else see a robot singing into a microphone, or worse still a male robot in mid climax?
Probably just me.
shauneco
13 Jan 17#185
That is ugly as **** what were they thinking?.
tyrano
13 Jan 172#186
I wouldn`t be seen dead in one of these is the typical reaction from the uneducated idiots.
They have never seen one and have no idea what they are like to drive - but they think they do.
shauneco
13 Jan 171#187
I see it too lol.
vulcanproject
13 Jan 17#188
Nobody apart from the biggest mugs in the universe pays list for your average Ford. If you paid £16k for a boggo 1.6 Focus Estate I'll explode with laughter. Soon as you walk in the door of the dealer and say I'm not paying that they will chop £4k off.
Zontes
13 Jan 171#189
Yep, I have now come to see it too, after the wife handled the imagery of the microphone!
bradevosprint
13 Jan 17#190
bloody awful but voted hot for price
hewittinspain
13 Jan 17#191
Dont know why people are scoffing at Dacia cars. Not everyone can afford expensive cars and for the price you are getting a brand new car that gets decent enough reviews. Some people need to stop being so snobbish. In this climate where money is tight for families it is a great option. Thumbs up for me.
bradevosprint
13 Jan 17#192
thought corsa were for grandmothers
Zontes
13 Jan 17#193
Yep, some of the brain dead idiots on this forum live in cloud cuckoo land. No idea about living in the real world, and what is a deal for you and me, is just that. Why do I want some eejit to tell me that a 25 year old Porsche is a better deal. GTF ya bampots.
BuckRodgers666
13 Jan 171#194
Voted hot to counteract all the bell ends saying that this is ****
IWOOTN
13 Jan 17#195
its 3 cylinder 12 valve
louthepoo
13 Jan 17#196
Born 1953 so he had a time machine then?
seaniboy
13 Jan 17#197
The usual HUKD snobs then^
Some people pay near as much for a poor rail service per year on a season ticket
spannerzone
13 Jan 17#198
That's very true although they often get half of the money back for cancelled / delayed trains, well us posh, rich commuting southerner's anyway..... :smile:
spruceyb
13 Jan 17#199
Dacia is owned by Renault. A Renault Logan is the same as this but aren't they only sold in Latin America?
usetheforceluke
13 Jan 17#200
not my cup of tea but a good deal all the same
Biggunspaul
13 Jan 171#201
Voted hot,but only so I could send it from 999 degrees to over the 1k mark
kjfrazer
13 Jan 17#202
I'll be trading in my Kia Picanto when it reaches 3 years old for a new Dacia Sandero. Which I'll keep for 2 years before trading in again.
Zontes
13 Jan 17#203
Be interested in why you made that comment. Really seriously looking for your reply.
Bossworld
13 Jan 17#204
tbc - takes bloody centuries
CouldntThinkOfAUsername
13 Jan 17#205
Rather bike than be seen in one of these. LOL at people who buy these.
Zontes
13 Jan 17#206
Wee boy lost alert. Someone find his mummy. What a ****.
Zontes
13 Jan 17#207
Wee boy lost alert. Someone find his mummy. What a ****.
GAVINLEWISHUKD
13 Jan 171#208
If it rained less in Manchester you might be on to something...
On second thoughts! :smiley:
Ripperoo
13 Jan 172#209
......and you drive? A beemer, I guess?
Bossworld
13 Jan 171#210
Someone **** on your chips?
Zontes
13 Jan 171#211
Just found a wee lost boy. What possessed you to reply? Looking for mummy?
muckspreader1
13 Jan 17#212
Could be worse could be a 1 series bmw or an audi.Cheap car that does the job.
Zontes
13 Jan 17#213
I have never met **** like this ****. Why would you chastise a neighbour for buying a car? Bully springs to mind!
muckspreader1
13 Jan 171#214
Cold dosent have a bmw audi or vw badge.Dosent do 0-60 In 2.8 seconds of 4 cylinders and can't crack 200mph.What is there to like about this?What would my neighbours and friends think if I owned one of these god forbid.My vw golf is far superior as I'm debited up to my eyeballs paying for it and my friends all think I'm cool.I don't care about my emissions and what vw claim and lie about but I'll buy 10 more. :laughing:
missphilippa28
13 Jan 17#215
I do like my Sander costing,, although a 4x4 would be far more appropriate in this village :smiley:
Joe90_guy
13 Jan 17#216
Recently traded in my (almost) three year old Picanto. Expect to get hosed at the dealer!! Having said that, I don't miss it. I so wanted to like the Picanto but it was just too small and the fuel economy was worse than my old Sirion! It also had an irritating habit of lugging in 5th around 30 mph. By all means go for the new Sandero but if I were you, I might just check out the Celerio. Fabulous cars! I liked them so much I've now bought three of them for various family members and and currently looking at a fourth one for my sister-in-law.
mpfree
13 Jan 171#217
A Kenwood mini chopper and riding a push bike....... How much street cred do you think you have???
ghostm4n
13 Jan 17#218
Be interested to know what you think when you test drive it. Would be much appreciated.
bigcul1
13 Jan 17#219
you missed my point. you could put an economical 1.0 engine into something pretty for the same price. cars don't have to be ugly but it seems people don't care.
Zontes
13 Jan 17#220
I am pished. What is your excuse?
djames108
13 Jan 17#221
thats just it, they don't :laughing:
jonboy300
13 Jan 17#222
Voted hot for the price, eventhough it's not for me. Sorry but I am a badge snob for these days and I seem to becoming more so with age. I wouldn't touch anything which has ties to Renault as they have too many electrical faults, but I guess all is well whilst still under warranty...
beckysdaddy1
13 Jan 17#223
Seems very underpowered
soldierboy001
13 Jan 171#224
This and Lodgy with 1.5 dCi used a lot as taxi in Spain. Yes the diesels do have dual mass which is not required for any petrol engine.
ezzer72
13 Jan 171#225
The VW Beetle was launched in 1997.
Are you referring to the Volkswagen Type 1 that was launched in 1938? The one that is affectionately known as the Beetle, based on it's shape? That isn't it's actual name, smarta$$
ezzer72
13 Jan 17#226
I 100% admit and accept that your Audi badge is superior to the Kia badge (in the UK, anyway).
It's a pity that the rest of your car is an unreliable money pit, with a terrible stigma/image attached.
MINCER
13 Jan 17#227
I never said any different, I already knew it was a Daihatsu unit and I did say Sirion rebadged as a Toyota not the other way round.
Bully
13 Jan 171#228
Reported
snapdragon
13 Jan 171#229
Can anyone confirm it has a passenger side door mirror as standard?
118luke
13 Jan 17#230
1993 spec at 1993 prices!
118luke
13 Jan 17#231
spannerzone
13 Jan 17#232
well mercy there's no need to post such a horrific image as that! :smile:
seaniboy
13 Jan 17#233
Tax refunds eh... now automatic with Delay Repay!
Not that the rich posh paid any tax in the first place, what a scam - pay no tax with automatic refunds via no bout a company they own shares in, no tax, refund, share dividends. 3 strikes and you're out (on holiday business class to Barbados!!)
England has competition and that makes routing and prices more cost effective, I can book in advance and fly from Glasgow/Edi cheaper for a week in the med than I can get to London in many cases. Also the many lines dont clog up like Scotland rail network - there is one east and West coast line that when even flooding occurs there is no re-routing options & you end up paying a train fare to get a bus that Network Rail Scotland pays the train company for.
England should be happy the Beeching axe did not take away from them the vast part of its countries network, the investment on the Network duwn suuth has been excellent in comparison to Scotland since privatisation, there is no train company monopoly in England & Scotland has had all the years of problems of Southern & more for as long as the privatisation has been in operation.
At least the aussies know and are thankful for all they have, unlike the English who moan about everything - including for decades the parties they vote in!
Count your blessings Englanders, you actually have no idea of a 20 year poor performing monopoly with a network completely under invested in until the Scottish Parliament came into being and much later when SNP took hold, really dont know how lucky you all are.
As for Southern, I'd sack the lot and pass it to TfL, but dont expect Labour or Tories to do that - they will never admit they both failed passengers and tax payers.
For anyone stuck with Southern, the Scots feel your pain and have done for twenty years, BUT the Scots rail staff came to a compromise not kept spitting its dummy out. I want I want I want - the public body mentality of the public body that was BR.
:smiley:
muz379
14 Jan 172#234
Well here is a novel idea . Why not find and post a deal for a brand new A6 all road for the same price as this . I am pretty sure you would get double or even triple the heat of this .
Nobody has ever said that the Dacia Logan MCV is on the market to compete with the A6 All road . Not dacia , not any motoring journalists , not anyone on this site nobody I have ever seen have put the two in the same class .
muz379
14 Jan 17#235
Off topic , but the scots rail staff managed to come to a compromise because the Scottish government was sympathetic and willing to make a deal with the trade unions . However the current government in England have no interest in reaching a deal with the unions they want to beat them which simply entrenches the attitudes on both sides .
seaniboy
14 Jan 17#236
Exactly, but its 3 sides, staff, unions, jovernement - all English all making a crisis out of a drama. The Scots government is doing a much better one than English one has, no NHS crisis, no train company log down crisis, no bedroom tax issues as councils apply the difference to anyone who requests hardship which anyone on DWP gets and Tax Credits where lowest.
No crisis or dramas up here :smile:
Oh well you lot voted Tories in, however did you expect a easy ride ? Southern jovernment, Southern trains - on par, hopeless! :wink:
Buy up them Dacia's - cheaper, better quality and more robust than a English jovernment :innocent:
seaniboy
14 Jan 17#237
Yeah, its all veneers - just like the opinion of a Dacia, perfect match I would say.
I remember when HUKD was a community of money savers, not Jonses looking down on others to make themselves feel better, generally about the amount of debt they have funnily enough! :wink:
canton76a
14 Jan 17#238
You might be right, as another commentator said, use it for 7 years then throw it away, one day maybe we'll all look at cars as consumables, it wouldn't be the first product to cross the line from investment to consumable, as a Romanian though, I just hate the thought that our country will be the one to start that trend.
RobinMichael
14 Jan 17#239
Is this just your untutored opinion? It is cheap therefore it is not good!
canton76a
14 Jan 17#240
And my **** won't fit in the driver's seat, ( at least in the old model I've tried). Why does it need to be that narrow.
canton76a
14 Jan 17#241
And India, and probably few other Asian countries.
canton76a
14 Jan 17#242
Sorry to barge in, but this thread is about Dacia :smiley: .
canton76a
14 Jan 173#243
At least Dacia has its merits... for bringing people together, badge snobs, onest workers, benefit scroungers, pensioners. If it wasn't for Dacia deals posted on this site, where else would everybody express their opinion about Japanese engines, WV emission cheating, railway transport or government?
I would like to use some emojis at this point but have no idea which ones are appropriate.
newdealchaser
14 Jan 17#244
ok..
it is also sold in part of asia in collaboration with Mahindra (Indian conglomerate) who make tractors and 4x4 types..
spannerzone
14 Jan 171#245
Once again a low priced deal flies off into all directions. Really it's whether this is a good deal and not whether you'd laugh at your neighbour for owning one or how your 14 year old Rolls Royce would be a better buy.
Ripperoo
14 Jan 171#246
OP should maybe have posted about a half cucumber for 30p @ lidlasdaalditescomorisons and the heat would have been unbearable. I don't get this site sometimes!
lupu
14 Jan 17#247
it will; if you push it off a bridge or clifftop
vtec
14 Jan 17#248
Those who want to be associated with darth vader buy this car. In fact a darth vader breathing mask should be sold with this car so people can hear you coming.
iibdii
14 Jan 17#249
A guy at work bought it for 30 a week on hp and said he's extremely happy
It's more than 6 months he got it n he never complained on motorways I would say it's not gonna be cheap to run but for 7k u can't go wrong if u need a new card
His insurance went 1000 cheaper compared to a skoda 1.9 on a taxi insurance
Only complaint I have is they want 3000 just to move from petrol to diesel
mrstick2000
14 Jan 17#250
I like the fact that the 0-62mph is still tbc, as if they haven't managed to get it there yet...
soldierboy001
14 Jan 17#251
It's not 3,000 just to got from petrol to diesel, it's because they don't make this base model as a diesel, so you are getting a better spec model that is sold at 1,000 less than the diesel version. A smaller gap in price between petrol and diesel than you get with other brands.
hcc27
14 Jan 171#252
Err he also designed the new Beetle.
MrrImpeccable
15 Jan 17#253
Are Dacia's any good for picking up the honeyz?
alltaken123
15 Jan 171#254
You my friend are destined for a moped.
youknowwho
15 Jan 17#255
Lot of car for the money but boy is it ugly
soldierboy001
15 Jan 17#256
No it's not. Have you looked in a mirror lately? Now that's ugly.
youknowwho
15 Jan 17#257
ha ha ... maybe for you, I don't many break many mirrors (anymore)
PS it's still an ugly car.
bellboys
16 Jan 17#258
Given the alleged correlation between driving a posh motor and size of appendage, is it significant that the one solitary deal you've posted in all your years on here was for a Mini Chopper? :man:
thabiz
16 Jan 17#259
So I guess the days of leather seated A/C equipped white Merc's and Peugeot's are numbered in Spain and the Canaries...
That's good to know about the Petrol's not having DMF, though my 2.0i Petrol Subaru Legacy has one, and by god I would never want another car fitted with one.
soldierboy001
16 Jan 17#260
Mercs have long since "not been the norm" in Spain, large MPV and estates are more common these days and A/C or climate control is the norm over here. Got A/C in Logan and Lodgy.
118luke
16 Jan 171#261
Eee you do get the extremes in here dont ya...
Some who wouldn't be seen dead driving one of these, and others who think the Dacia is the dogs doodlies and heaven forbid considering anything more expensive.
I just enjoy driving something that has been made last year using British hands, and knowing i have contributed to my own country - not Romania, France, Germany etc.. its a shame the UK doesn't have the supportive attitudes that we had during WW2 or that America still does (and a lot of other countries that prefer to buy their own products)
joehart2
16 Jan 171#262
£16,000 is with the £4,000 pound off!
if you dont believe me, take a look for yourself
vulcanproject
16 Jan 171#263
List of the 1.6 85 petrol is £17545. Brokers have the Focus 1.6 estate down for ~£12.5k, and you would likely get it for close to that at a dealer as well.
The 1.6 is a last gen engine and all the ecoboost petrols are much more expensive, but you did specifically say the basic trim model which is what that is and you can still get it. If you don't believe me, look for yourself.
Not that I would buy either of these cars but there it is.
LandyManSam
16 Jan 172#264
I hired one of these recently in its native country of Romania, and what a cracking little car it was!
Coming from a 4.0 V8 in the UK, this was always going to feel slow but it was adequate in all situations even loaded with 4 people and luggage. Light on fuel, very spacious, it felt rugged and amazingly well built considering the price point. Our model came equipped with A/C and a surprisingly good stereo with bluetooth.
Overall, very impressed with it. Anybody who snubs this for its badge is missing out on the best value car on the market today I reckon.
caulfield
16 Jan 17#265
a lot of these will probably be sold to minicab drivers, as some councils have stipulations about colour and age of vehicle. run for 3-5 years, throw it away and get another. A similar thing happened with the octavia a few years back, they were cheap on specialist finance for minicab drivers and the roads filled up with them (good)
used to carshare with a friend with a sandero, nice enough car. it feels a bit basic until you get in something like a c1 (same price range) and then you see what basic really is
ashtad
16 Jan 17#266
Got to be worth paying the extra 1k for the a/c,electric front windows and DAB Bluetooth radio hasn't it....... Oh and a boot light :confused:
Floydsters1
17 Jan 171#267
I saw this car yesterday on a 66 plate whilst driving home from work. I would never have even noticed it if it wasn't for hotukdeals. It had no problems keeping up whilst accelerating to 50mph
It didn't look the most attractive of cars but as another poster stated, it is without doubt the best value new car on the market today!! Ignore what other people say or think and consider it, if you are contemplating buying a car
ukaskew
17 Jan 17#268
Incredible how many people are stuck in the past and just blindly accept the stereotypical view. Skoda slow and rubbish - check. Small engines slow and rubbish - check.
Ive not heard anyone in the real world dismiss Skoda for about 10 years now, ditto small engines in big cars which have been on the scene for a good 5 years as an alternative.
babylon
17 Jan 17#269
Have to agree that 1L seems a bit under powered, Best to pay a few extra quid and go for the 1.6L
megaman666
17 Jan 17#270
such a good looking car.
genacro
17 Jan 17#271
SNOB:
a person with an exaggerated respect for high social position or wealth who seeks to associate with social superiors and looks down on those regarded as socially inferior.
PRECONCEIVED IDEA
idea or opinion formed before having the evidence for its truth or usefulness.
any evidence of these concepts around here?
sayitasitis
17 Jan 171#272
Voted hot from me , good price. What is it with all the experts on here who seem to think spending 15 -30K on a vehicle proves something about who you are, quite sad really. For me - no publicity all the time.
geraintfletcher
17 Jan 17#273
Serious question, could someone advise please, that if I were to use this car for commuting to work, as in a 66 mile round journey on motorways, driving at 55 to 60 mph, would this car be adequate and trouble free doing this sort mileage each day, as I am seriously considering buying this vehicle, TIA.
POWYSWALES
17 Jan 172#274
It will easy cope with this milage and speed, these cars have a good power to weight ratio so are not over worked. You will also have your 3 year 60,000 mile warranty to back you up, these have Renault engines which are easily capable of 150,000 miles before they start getting tired. Are you also aware there is the hatch version for only £5995. See link below. If you order now hold out for the 2017 1.0 litre version available from march as these are 10% more economical and powerful than the outgoing 1.2 litre version, The only way I would accept the 1.2 version is if they offer at least £700 discount as it will be pre built stock. http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/new-dacia-sandero-2017-facelift-still-only-5995-otr-2577574
damadgeruk
17 Jan 17#275
Best selling US vehicles, top 5 are Japanese.
soldierboy001
17 Jan 17#276
If you order now you WILL get the 1.0 Ltr.
dsuk
18 Jan 17#277
Kia is an expensive low rent car.
irishman21
18 Jan 17#278
As my dad would say...
Wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding!
soldierboy001
18 Jan 172#279
It's not made for pulling skin off rice puddings, it's made for pulling up to 5 people and their luggage at a safe and sensible speed at an economical price.
People who make stupid irresponsible comments like this should go read a few reviews on cars of this nature and then come back and apologise, but no they are not big enough to do that but just roll around in their own ignorance, thinking they are clever.
nickmorc
18 Jan 172#280
Well, I have just gone and picked up one from our local dealer.
8 miles on the clock, just drove back and it didn't explode on the way back. Boot is huge and will be great for hols and tip runs.
Drove fine, nowt nasty going on, sure its not going to be an Audi, but first drive seems all good.
soldierboy001
18 Jan 171#281
Keep us posted Nick and why not join the Dacia forum pages?
ashtad
18 Jan 17#282
Did you go for the 1.0 litre petrol version ? if so how does it feel
nickmorc
18 Jan 17#283
Its the Tc 90, paid the extra as it has a wee turbo, a few quid extra on the finance.
Yep, on Dacia World Forum.
soulfulreflec
19 Jan 17#284
Bought my 2 year old megane estate with a 1.5 diesel engine £0 tax, 83mpg, 16k miles on clock full extras (build in sat navigation, ac, full size spare wheel, allows, etc) for about the same money.
Yes it's cheap for 7k, but if you look for low mileage 1-2 year old cars, you can get yourself cars that cost 25k new
soldierboy001
19 Jan 17#285
You are talking a load of horse manure, just done an extensive search and the best find for money was a Vauxhall Meriva that would have sold for about £12,000 depending on the buyers negotiation skills for a 2015 model.
There are always a few on a value for money car offer that will talk out of their rear and you are one of those.
keno2000_uk
19 Jan 171#286
bought the diesel version on monday. picking it up next week. for the size and price theres no contest and was pleasantly surprised on the test drive it has some pull. 80mpg and free tax
ashtad
19 Jan 17#287
Does anyone know if the ambiance trim comes with alloy wheels. The description and comparison is a bit vague
MPLP
19 Jan 17#288
Jeremy 'Show me a cold salad and I'll punch you in the face' Clarkson's opinion: If JC think's it's a terrible car, it's probably very good! Have some heat. :stuck_out_tongue:
nickmorc
19 Jan 17#289
I too had a look on Autotrader etc for Meganes, Bob Hope and No Hope, 13K was the closest at 1 - 2 years. Therefore you were very lucky. They are not even that price at my local car auction.
irishman21
19 Jan 17#290
Calm down, it's just a saying. To clarify, with 73 bhp it isn't going to be quick...
buckbyter
19 Jan 17#291
Yours is a dirty diesel - this is petrol so less harmful fumes for occupants, pedestrians and other road users.
Hot from me!
keno2000_uk
19 Jan 17#292
these actually come with 5 year warranties at the moment as well
carlos1985
19 Jan 17#293
The most worrying thing about this car is the Ncap rating of ONLY 3 ( hence the low kerb weight), I cant think of any new car that is that low, with no power, awful mpg after you spend all your time trying to accelerate , joke of a car. Buy a half decent second hand one or just dig a 6 ft hole and give up on life completely ;-)
nickmorc
19 Jan 17#294
Cheers for your happy words of wisdom and great knowledge.
carlos1985
20 Jan 17#295
well if your happy putting your family in a 3 star rated brand new car ( but it's cheap remember !) then I can see where your priorities lie, as for wisdom, ill take safety over a new car on my drive any day of the week .
soldierboy001
20 Jan 17#296
And you obviously don't understand the new star ratings for automobiles, so you are in the ignoramus lane of the motorway.
carlos1985
20 Jan 17#297
please expand soldier boy, I'm all ears how does it work ? the car was last tested by ncap in 2014 when it received 3 stars, this car advertised has 3 stars, which isn't that good is it.
ps please click link for relevant info :-) http://www.euroncap.com/en/results/dacia/logan-mcv/7865
carlos1985
20 Jan 17#298
Insults don't work if you don't know what your on about eh .......
nickmorc
20 Jan 17#299
LOL, what car do you drive ?
nickmorc
20 Jan 17#300
From my research, NCAP results have changed, which caused the lower result. There was also an error on the published weight. The Sanderro was tested 4 stars with a petrol engine, the Logan was tested with the diesel engine.
If the Logan had been called the Sanderro Estate which it is, then it would have been 4 stars. Still not up there with the best, but much better than my old 15 year old Astra !
ysdevil
21 Jan 17#301
Went in to order a petrol one today, was told no chance before the VED change and can't even order the new 1.0 petrol model yet.
ashtad
22 Jan 17#302
What's the VED change ?
ysdevil
22 Jan 17#303
1st April. From £20/30 a year to £140 a year. Car must be registered before 1st April I believe to get lower rate.
Opening post
Petrol Fuel Type
Multipoint sequential Injection Type
3 No. of Cylinders
12 No. of Valves
999 Induction Capacity (cc)
73(54) Maximum Power - hp DIN (kw ISO)
97 Maximum Torque - Nm ISO (mkg DIN)
B4D 411 Engine Type
- Particle Filter
Euro 6 Emission Control Standard
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So I'm going to test drive one soon & see how it goes. I frankly don't give a damm what others thing! I do need a new motor soon but don't want to pay out the price for this for a two year lease that I won't own afterwords
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Black door handles
Black door mirrors
15" TARKINE steel wheels
Manually adjustable door mirrors
Longitudinal roofbars(Satin chrome on Lauréate/Black on Ambiance)
Tinted windows
Rear wash wipe
Daytime running lights
Body coloured bumpers
15" Steel wheels
Driving & safety
Hill Start Assist
Power assisted steering
Passenger airbag with de-activation function
Anti-lock braking system(ABS)
Tyre pressure monitor
Front side airbags
Emergency Brake Assist (EBA)
Driver airbag
Passenger airbag with deactivation function
Gear shift indicator
Tyre inflation kit
Seating & trim
Front seatbelts
Black interior door handles
3 x 3 point rear seatbelts
ISOFIX points for child seats in both outer rear seats
Height adjustable front headrests
60/40 split folding rear seat
Cerite cloth upholstery
Comfort & convenience
Manual rear windows
Manual front windows
Heated rear window
Heating & ventilation
4 speed heating and ventilation system
Instruments & controls
Outside temperature gauge
TECHNICAL INFORMATION
YOUR VEHICLE
Capacities
50(10.9) Fuel Tank - Litres (Gallons)
Available Specifications
Manual Gearbox Gearbox
75 Maximum Power - hp
4-speed heating and ventilation system Air Conditioning
ESC (Electronic Stability Control) with ASR (Traction control) and Hill Start Assist (HSA) Stabilty Control
B4D 411 Engine
No Satellite navigation Satellite Navigation
Standard roof Sunroof
No Cruise control Cruise Control
DAB/FM/AM radio with AUX input/Bluetooth/USB connection Connectivity
15" TARKINE wheel trims Wheels
Electric Vehicles - Z.E.
Performance
tbc 0-62mph (0-100kph)
tbc Maximum Speed - mph (kph)
Drivetrain
Front-wheel drive Wheels Driven
Body Type
5 No. of Doors
Estate Body Type Classification
Steering
10.82 Turning Circle Between Kerbs/Walls (m)
Braking
258 / 22 Front Discs (Diameter mm)
8 Rear Brakes (Discs = DV; Drums = TA) (Diameter mm)
Tyres
185/65 R 15 Size/Profile
Weights (kg)
980 Kerb Weight (Excluding Driver) (kg)
2365 Gross Train Weight (kg)
575 Maximum Payload (Including Driver) (kg)
tbc Maximum Towing Weight Unbraked - Driver Only (kg)
tbc Gross Vehicle Weight (kg)
810 Maximum Towing Weight Braked - Driver Only (kg)
Engine
Petrol Fuel Type
Multipoint sequential Injection Type
3 No. of Cylinders
12 No. of Valves
999 Induction Capacity (cc)
73(54) Maximum Power - hp DIN (kw ISO)
97 Maximum Torque - Nm ISO (mkg DIN)
B4D 411 Engine Type
- Particle Filter
Euro 6 Emission Control Standard
Dimensions (mm)
2634 (A) Wheelbase
4501 (B) Overall Length
NC (C) Front Overhang
155 (K) Ground Clearance
1552 (H) Unladen Height
NC Maximum Load Entry Width (Lower Entry Width)
NC (J) Unladen Platform Height
tbc Interior Headroom
1733 (G) Overall width with door mirrors folded
NC (Z2) Load Area Length with Rear Seats Folded
NC (M1) Interior Elbow Cabin Width - Rear
tbc Load Platform Length
NC (G1) Overall width with door mirrors extended
tbc (Z1) Load Area Length
NC Height Including Roof Bars
NC (D) Rear Overhang
1921 (H3) Height with Open Tailgate
1518 Overall Height
NC (M) Interior Elbow Cabin Width - Front
NC (Y1) Maximum Load Entry Width (Floor Level)
NC (Y2) Minimum Load Bay Width
tbc (Z) Height of Rear Opening
Seating
5 No. of Seats
- Ecological Label
Transmission
Manual Gearbox Gearbox Type
5 Number of Forward Gears
Aerodynamics
0.76 Drag Co-efficient/Area (Cd/A)
Volume
573 Maximum Load Volume (Litres or dm3)
NC Minimum Load Volume (Litres or dm3)
NC Standard Load Volume (m3)
http://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/skoda/octavia/estate/10-tsi-115ps-s_7870250/review
The 1970s HC Viva kerb weight was 833 kg though, compared to this much safer Dacia at 980kg. Both are much lighter than the 1.0L Seat Ateca in the other deal on here, 1300 kg.
So I'm going to test drive one soon & see how it goes. I frankly don't give a damm what others thing! I do need a new motor soon but don't want to pay out the price for this for a two year lease that I won't own afterwords
I don't know how much this weights either, but it is definitely a gross vehicle.
The interior looks very presentable to me also
Good price, BUT......
Voted hot. It's a lof of decent car for the money.
Much rather be in debt but safe on the road? :smile:
People drive less powerful cars and are still alive.
Safety is a relative thing with more factors than the vehicle itself.
I've bought Mercedes for the last 35 years but I would consider one of these for a second car. Anybody who sneers has the problem not me. I ran a Berlingo as a second car a few years ago and that was a lot of fun,it didn't have a speedo it had a calendar but I really liked it . You can tell my Merc its got a sign in the window,"my other car is a Panda" and it is.
Manual front windows
20th century spec!
But 3 year warranty! Add £850 for 7 years total (then throw away). Less than £1121 a year plus any servicing etc. Cheap motoring!
http://www.dacia.co.uk/vehicles/new-sandero/configurator/
I would much prefer to buy a £7k used car for this price, but each to their own.
:smiley:
In reality it's a 'white goods' car. It will get the kids to school, dog to the park or a trolley full of shopping and will take your junk to the tip on a Sunday afternoon for little outlay. If you accept it for what it is and costs you will be fine.
PS not a fan of the colour.
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Not sure of the small engine, but we have the diesel one of these, its never going to be the most tactile of places to sit, but does 60mpg with regular short trips, 70mpg+ on long journeys, zero RFL, and cheap servicing.
Two and a half years old and no reliability issues to speak of at all.
I was in the motor trade for 6 years and saw a lot worse cars than this from main stream manufacturers.
Most parts are Renault anyway. I was really pleased with the Sandero but wanted a bigger car, hence the Duster. Great car for the money especially if you fancy the 4WD version. I have the new prestige model with 7" media nav and reversing camera, black alloys. I'm always being asked about it. Don't expect quality but they are value for money.
Personally I would rather hedge my bets (the key thing is to know that you are hedging your bets ) with something used and get something of higher spec but I do have some mechanical skills and friends with tools and I have other means of getting to work which reduces the risks and costs of a used car . But I can see why these cars are incredibly appealing to people who want financial certainty . 3 years warranty as standard and I believe if you get this car on HP over 5 years then the warranty is extended to 5 years .
Often on threads for low powered cars like this you hear the "rubbish in getting you out of a bad situation" , dont drive a car with less than 250bhp you will die rubbish . I have and often do drive cars with lower power to weight ratios than this car . For 2 years I drove a 1.1l 54bhp fiat panda and I never once got into a bad situation . I think it is worth mentioning that people often end up in bad situations through over estimating their own or their vehicles capabilities . Drive sensibly in accordance with your own and your vehicles limitations and you will never have a bad situation that you need to get out of . You do not need a certain power to weight ratio to be safe you just need common sense
Also in my opinion manual wind down windows are better than electric as you can escape in water, simple heater blowers are better than "automatic air con climate control" that you have to fannie about with and cycle through many options when all you want is medium heat and blowers on the windscreen.
Steel wheels are also generally lighter than factory fitted alloys, normal profile tyres also give better real world handling and you will have tons of good cheapies to choose from on mytyres. I just wish they made this available, for the same price, with a proper 4 speed torque converter auto box, Jatco or Aisin preferably.
Does anyone know if these have the dreaded dual mass flywheel?. I hope they don't.
HOT deal, I don't see them making much profit on these.
:wink:
I'm sure Mr Schreyer is in charge of the rubber stamp though :smiley:
there really not that bad,
they've come a long way from when you just used to put dead people in them. :wink:
For example you can buy a 2.5 year old Ford Focus or slightly older Skoda Octavia for the same money as this, which will still have some manufacturer warranty remaining and likely a 1 or 2 year warranty via dealership depending on where you buy it.
On a serious note it' a brand new car for £7k bargain if you want a new car that gets you from A-B, Sometimes having less electrics i,e electric windows etc. = less to go wrong, Being basically a cheap Renault less electrics is most certainly a good thing.
Would rather buy a half decent quality car that is 5 years old for this money.
False economy.
Apparently this means I'm unable to reach 60mph, can only just about get from A to B, and also, I'm dead, both from being unable to get out of a bad situation and from embarrassment.
News to me. It's been fine, especially for the money, and not just for the daily commute. We've moved house twice with the Logan doing a lot of the work, and we've been to Italy and back in it, via the Alps, with no problems, whether cruising down the autoroute at 80mph, or driving up the D213 to Les Deux Alpes.
I mean, the engine may be small, but it still has more power than the 1700cc diesel astra I had in the 90s. Granted, the model in this deal has a different engine (mine's the Lauréate TCe 90 which is £9,995 new), but this one is still more powerful than that 1700cc astra. It's a perfectly decent car, especially for the price.
That's not to say it's the ideal car for everyone's circumstances, but it works great for mine, and for anyone on a budget who needs the space, I'd be happy to recommend it (I wouldn't reject second-hand alternatives out of hand, but there's more risk of unexpected costs and repairs sooner, which if you're on a budget, isn't ideal).
On the other hand, I know most of you drive RollsRoyce's so this might not be an option for you.
Know someone, who has the hatchback version, loves the car, loads around my neck of the woods.
Rather have this than some 3 year old car that had someone else breaking wind on the seat, being sick in it and all other manner of things going on in it.
Yes.
i prefer a car with air conditioning which this does not have.
the next model up cost £1800 more (£8795).
Likewise, Ford have obtained 1.8L performance from a 1.0L with a turbo - the Mk3 Focus 1.0 Ecoboost has more BHP than my old Mk1 Focus 1.8! Quite staggering really.
This car will move reasonably well, but the cheapness will show like any budget french car (Citroen C3/C1 comes to mind). Being brand new will make it seem nicer than it is, give it 10 years and these will be as desirable as a Daihatsu Sirion.
Only thing worth mentioning though is that the 0.9tce is turbo which does give that little bit extra HP vs this 1.0l engine with no turbo . I certainly would expect this to be a bit more sluggish compared to the sandero . That being said as others have said it will still have performance comparable to a lot of cars from "better" manufacturers on sale today . Its not as if dacia is offering something that performance wise will be worse than anything else on sale . The savings will be apparent in things like the quality of interior , quality of parts , basic spec .
I probably do need to get out more though.
I'm not sure these are a great combination.
Happy to be proved wrong though.
Regarding efficiency, just for a lark, I thought I'd compare my first car, a 1972 Mk III Austin 1100, to my current drive; a Suzuki Celerio (with a 1000 cc n/a engine). The Austin's engine had a compression ratio of 8.5:1, developed 48 HP, used thick 20W50 oil and 'officially' did 33 mpg (although I suspect mine never managed that). The Celerio's engine has a compression ratio of 11.0:1, develops 67 HP, uses super thin 0W20 and does about 70 mpg (even in winter). Probably the only area where the Austin was competitive on was curb weight because mine used to have so many rust holes in the bodywork!
http://www.euroncap.com/en/results/dacia/logan-mcv/7865
For people who just (and most sensibly, in all reality) treat a car like a tool for getting from A to B safely, it's a great deal. I wish I was able to be as pragmatic, but I enjoy driving a lot and would miss creature comforts.
Though despite all that, I know that I pay a premium for these :disappointed: Cars are a weakness for many!
I've also got the Lauréate TCe 90 turbo 0.9litre. with the addition of aircon, full elecs, colour coding, satnav, tints, alloys and extended warranty mine came to 10k.
I've done 35k miles over 2 1/2years. Averaging 50mpg using cruise control on motorways.
I don't mind it.
Can't comment on the new engine variant without the turbo.
But you're right - you get what you pay for. Owners of this buy a cost-effective utility and spend/save the rest of their money for more important things :wink:
I'm not interested in 99% of deals, so don't comment on them.
Don't feed the troll, right? Maybe it's too late...
And for the same nonsensical reason, I'm guessing you don't come close to an A6 Allroad either. Jus' sayin'.
Latest 2016 facelift
I bought a brand new car last year, have to say hands down, one of the best purchases I've made. I know how it's been driven (bar the apes at import and dealership). Nicely equipped with Modern comforts.
of course the price drops like a lead balloon, this I know. But I also know that I have pretty much hassle free driving for the three years I will keep. And a lot of money I lose in depreciation is offset against higher running costs. And, it's my money to lose, I don't have to worry about the mileage as I would possibly have to, if it were a lease.
only down side of a new car is leaving it in a car park.
A quick look at google shows Autocar and Autoexpress giving it 4stars.
I'd be prepared to test drive if before dismissing it
Unless anyone knows how to retrofit them for cheaper, I don't think many would want to consider anything less.
Comfy, did a 2k round Europe drive with no issues.
Yes its not top notch quality, but its also not poor quality and I'm really happy. There wasnt anything near the spec for the price / warranty etc.
I'd buy again.
When I tried them the Logan was the other one I considered as it had a very comfortable driving position and good visibility.
Better engine and cheap price? hot!
Genuinely interested in the answer, I assume if warranty can be matched then you would likely only go for the dacia for the 'new' aspect, ironic considering the snobs of this thread are considered to be those looking down on the dacia.
the boot on it is simply huge!
The new 1.0 engine looks good
after 3 years and 30,000 miles a basic focus is scheduled to be worth £6850 in average condition
thats a loss of over £9000! and the boot is smaller than the Logans!
It's a choice. If you just want transport, that is exactly what it delivers for a tiny price tag.
While it will sound silly it is best in class for the simple reason it's the only car in its class. Most competitor's are twice the price.
- Particle Filter"
Does this mean this car has a particle filter?
My first car was little fiat punto with a 60bhp engine (when new so probably quite a few less). Going on the motorway it badly struggled when accelerating above 40mph.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_KR_engine
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Is it just me or does anyone else see a robot singing into a microphone, or worse still a male robot in mid climax?
Probably just me.
They have never seen one and have no idea what they are like to drive - but they think they do.
Some people pay near as much for a poor rail service per year on a season ticket
On second thoughts! :smiley:
This and Lodgy with 1.5 dCi used a lot as taxi in Spain. Yes the diesels do have dual mass which is not required for any petrol engine.
Are you referring to the Volkswagen Type 1 that was launched in 1938? The one that is affectionately known as the Beetle, based on it's shape? That isn't it's actual name, smarta$$
It's a pity that the rest of your car is an unreliable money pit, with a terrible stigma/image attached.
Not that the rich posh paid any tax in the first place, what a scam - pay no tax with automatic refunds via no bout a company they own shares in, no tax, refund, share dividends. 3 strikes and you're out (on holiday business class to Barbados!!)
England has competition and that makes routing and prices more cost effective, I can book in advance and fly from Glasgow/Edi cheaper for a week in the med than I can get to London in many cases. Also the many lines dont clog up like Scotland rail network - there is one east and West coast line that when even flooding occurs there is no re-routing options & you end up paying a train fare to get a bus that Network Rail Scotland pays the train company for.
Wonder how much Scotrail & Virgin West Coast got from Network Rail in compensation and costs...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-35342612
Also check out Network Rail Scotland had 100 dangerous at risk safety check bridges in operation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-37975937
England should be happy the Beeching axe did not take away from them the vast part of its countries network, the investment on the Network duwn suuth has been excellent in comparison to Scotland since privatisation, there is no train company monopoly in England & Scotland has had all the years of problems of Southern & more for as long as the privatisation has been in operation.
At least the aussies know and are thankful for all they have, unlike the English who moan about everything - including for decades the parties they vote in!
Count your blessings Englanders, you actually have no idea of a 20 year poor performing monopoly with a network completely under invested in until the Scottish Parliament came into being and much later when SNP took hold, really dont know how lucky you all are.
As for Southern, I'd sack the lot and pass it to TfL, but dont expect Labour or Tories to do that - they will never admit they both failed passengers and tax payers.
For anyone stuck with Southern, the Scots feel your pain and have done for twenty years, BUT the Scots rail staff came to a compromise not kept spitting its dummy out. I want I want I want - the public body mentality of the public body that was BR.
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Nobody has ever said that the Dacia Logan MCV is on the market to compete with the A6 All road . Not dacia , not any motoring journalists , not anyone on this site nobody I have ever seen have put the two in the same class .
No crisis or dramas up here :smile:
Oh well you lot voted Tories in, however did you expect a easy ride ? Southern jovernment, Southern trains - on par, hopeless! :wink:
Buy up them Dacia's - cheaper, better quality and more robust than a English jovernment :innocent:
I remember when HUKD was a community of money savers, not Jonses looking down on others to make themselves feel better, generally about the amount of debt they have funnily enough! :wink:
I would like to use some emojis at this point but have no idea which ones are appropriate.
it is also sold in part of asia in collaboration with Mahindra (Indian conglomerate) who make tractors and 4x4 types..
It's more than 6 months he got it n he never complained on motorways I would say it's not gonna be cheap to run but for 7k u can't go wrong if u need a new card
His insurance went 1000 cheaper compared to a skoda 1.9 on a taxi insurance
Only complaint I have is they want 3000 just to move from petrol to diesel
PS it's still an ugly car.
That's good to know about the Petrol's not having DMF, though my 2.0i Petrol Subaru Legacy has one, and by god I would never want another car fitted with one.
Some who wouldn't be seen dead driving one of these, and others who think the Dacia is the dogs doodlies and heaven forbid considering anything more expensive.
I just enjoy driving something that has been made last year using British hands, and knowing i have contributed to my own country - not Romania, France, Germany etc.. its a shame the UK doesn't have the supportive attitudes that we had during WW2 or that America still does (and a lot of other countries that prefer to buy their own products)
if you dont believe me, take a look for yourself
The 1.6 is a last gen engine and all the ecoboost petrols are much more expensive, but you did specifically say the basic trim model which is what that is and you can still get it. If you don't believe me, look for yourself.
Not that I would buy either of these cars but there it is.
Coming from a 4.0 V8 in the UK, this was always going to feel slow but it was adequate in all situations even loaded with 4 people and luggage. Light on fuel, very spacious, it felt rugged and amazingly well built considering the price point. Our model came equipped with A/C and a surprisingly good stereo with bluetooth.
Overall, very impressed with it. Anybody who snubs this for its badge is missing out on the best value car on the market today I reckon.
used to carshare with a friend with a sandero, nice enough car. it feels a bit basic until you get in something like a c1 (same price range) and then you see what basic really is
It didn't look the most attractive of cars but as another poster stated, it is without doubt the best value new car on the market today!! Ignore what other people say or think and consider it, if you are contemplating buying a car
Ive not heard anyone in the real world dismiss Skoda for about 10 years now, ditto small engines in big cars which have been on the scene for a good 5 years as an alternative.
a person with an exaggerated respect for high social position or wealth who seeks to associate with social superiors and looks down on those regarded as socially inferior.
PRECONCEIVED IDEA
idea or opinion formed before having the evidence for its truth or usefulness.
any evidence of these concepts around here?
Wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding!
People who make stupid irresponsible comments like this should go read a few reviews on cars of this nature and then come back and apologise, but no they are not big enough to do that but just roll around in their own ignorance, thinking they are clever.
8 miles on the clock, just drove back and it didn't explode on the way back. Boot is huge and will be great for hols and tip runs.
Drove fine, nowt nasty going on, sure its not going to be an Audi, but first drive seems all good.
Yep, on Dacia World Forum.
Yes it's cheap for 7k, but if you look for low mileage 1-2 year old cars, you can get yourself cars that cost 25k new
There are always a few on a value for money car offer that will talk out of their rear and you are one of those.
If JC think's it's a terrible car, it's probably very good! Have some heat. :stuck_out_tongue:
Hot from me!
ps please click link for relevant info :-) http://www.euroncap.com/en/results/dacia/logan-mcv/7865
If the Logan had been called the Sanderro Estate which it is, then it would have been 4 stars. Still not up there with the best, but much better than my old 15 year old Astra !