No more efficient than any other entirely electrical heating solution. If anything, they can be wasteful as they need to be turned off well-before the end of a heating requirement to benefit from the retained stored heat that it releases slowly. Great price for a 2kW unit.

Let's assume your Fan Heater is 800W - the fan will add maybe 5w at most to that, so it's hardly a big deal and more powerful fan heaters make that even more trivial.

The major difference between a fan/convection/panel heater and an oil-based-radiator like this is that the former heat the air and move it around when they're on and do NOTHING when they're off wheras the latter heat-up and hold that heat over time so that the areas is warmed more consistently (tho more slowly at first).

So, if you want to warm-up a room quickly but not for any extended period of time, use a fan heater wheras if you want to keep a room warm for a longer period, use a radiator.

Oh - and if you only want to warm yourself up, some sort of halogen (the heaters with the glowing bars) heater is better as because they specifically warm people up faster than anything else (e.g. the room warms really slowly but you'll feel toasty)

All heaters turn electropixes into heatpixies at the same rate - it's what they DO with that heat which makes the difference.

Try this:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/shell-helix-ultra-professional-ag-engine-5w-30-5ltr-was-24-99-now-17-49-delivered-2602777

Current electricity utility price is likely around 12p per kWh unit. Absolute max this heater can use in a 6 hr period = 12 x unit cost, so say max £1.44 in a 6hr period. It's unlikely to be "on" all the time though as the thermostat will turn on & off as required - assuming the thermostat temperature is reached at some stage.

No more efficient than any other entirely electrical heating solution. If anything, they can be wasteful as they need to be turned off well-before the end of a heating requirement to benefit from the retained stored heat that it releases slowly. Great price for a 2kW unit.

Thanks op as needed one
Have some heat :smiley:

Is this cheaper to run than a fan heater or halogen heater?

how much would this cost to run for let's say 6 hours a day? not sure what electric unit price is

Does this run on electric with plug and do you need to put oil in it to use it

So all I need to do is plug it on and it will heat up straight away am I right or is there any fittings thanks

You just plug it in.

It has wheels so you can plug it and move it as well. :stuck_out_tongue:

Take out of box. Plug into wall socket. Select one of three power levels. Wait a while for heat to be absorbed by oil and gradually emitted, say 5 mins to start feeling any benefit. Set thermostat. Job done.

Way better than fan heaters. You turn them on & get instant heat but turn them off & room gets cold straight away.

With oil filled, takes a while to heat up...and there might be some oil popping sounds...but room stays warm for a good while after its turned off

So it's exactly the same, really.

"These radiators are energy efficient heating solutions" - this was made up by the OP, is not in the description on the website and if it were, the ASA would slap it down. Please don't perpetuate the myth that oil-filled radiators save money over other types of electric heater - they don't.

What sort of heater is better in terms of giving out heat....

this oil filled

This:
https://www.duronic.com/products/Duronic-HV101-Black-Mica-Panel-2.5KW-Radiant-Convector-Heater-with-thermostat-%252d-Oil-Free-Heater-%252d-Heats-up-in-1-Minute.html


Or this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UP5HMCE/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_.ynHyb6QBQGYD

The first one is more powerful, so will give out more heat, and cost correspondingly more to run. There's no black art here - they all produce the same amount of heat for the electricity you pay.

​I didn't say they saved money. I didn't read whatever the OP said..So don't make up stuff or assume!

My post is based on my own experience with both types of heaters.

Thank you. But in terms of type of heater....does it make a big difference

I didn't make up anything - I was quoting the OP, not you.

They are both the same type of heater - convector.

Yes. Whilst replying to me!

Thanks OP, this is just what I need, I've been waiting for a price drop :smiley:

Which is better. Convector or oil filled?

This has already been answered comprehensively by me and others in this thread - please read through the postings already made.

Thank you

Thanks op - ordered

Nothing special about the price it's been like this in store for several months now, check in 2 different Tescos.

This was on HUK previously, would only recommend for small rooms as I have one, far to small to heat up ur average bedroom or living room.

It's a legitimate question if you've never seen a heater before :smile:

This is silent. Fan heaters make a noise.

These cost exactly the same to run for the amount of heat you get as any other non-storage electric heater. Schoolboy physics - conservation of energy. Nor do they or fan heaters change the amount of moisture in the air. Heating air by any means reduces the relative humidity, however, so if you sit in the blast of very hot air from a fan heater then that will be dryer, relatively speaking. If you point the air flow away from you then it will be no different to an oil-filled radiator.

Guys we've got an issue in our bedroom. We've got 2 radiators but it is a very large room for a bedroom. They work as they should and get very hot but don't do the job well enough. The room never really heats up properly whereas the rest of the house is fine.

There seems to be a few people on this thread that know what they're talking about so do you think adding this as a 3rd radiator (obviously electric rather than gas/mains) could help solve the issue or would you recommend a different solution or larger unit?

thanks in advance.

I love oil filled radiators-this is a fab price. Will be ordering. I have managed to live without one this winter but it hasn't been as cold I think this year. On the plus side, def noticed a price difference in my electricity bills this winter!

These can be useful in a bedroom overnight rather than having the whole house heating on. To only heat one bedroom, you'd otherwise have to go round the house and turn off other radiators, eg lounge. So in that respect they 'may' (depending on what you want heated, efficiency of your central heating system, size of rooms, etc) turn out more cost effective than having the central heating on overnight.

We use a 500W one of these in our bedroom with a small fan pointing towards it. This makes the room more evenly heated.

Got one working at the moment and room is lovely and warm , stay clear of argos one's , they are utter ****...

And these should only be £20...did notice Tesco cheekily put them up to £29 a couple of weeks ago, but good find, anything thats cheap and keeps you warm is good in my book

Assuming you're using mains gas, it'll cost you less than a third to get the heat you would by using electricity. A double radiator will give approx. twice the heat of the same sized single radiator. Modern radiators with denser fins also give approx. twice as much heat as old-fashined ones. So a simple replacement (which won't require the system to be drained) may be a better idea in the long run.

What's wrong with them?

These were, possibly are, the same price in b&m. Picked one up from Belper last week for the conservatory. Takes the edge off slightly, plus main reason why I wanted it is so I can say 'Alexa, turn on heater'.

Bah. Just picked up the lidl one. More powerful (2.5k) and with a built in fan heater. Would have gone for this though as the price is just amazing.

Thanks man! good pricing.I am hoping it to save some money off the bills.
has anyone used the "Oil Heaters"?are are cheap to run? I have wall mounted electric heaters currently.

Great deal, ordered, thank you.

Heat, literally.

I posted the deal after I ordered one for myself. :smiley:

Oil radiators are mobile and effective. Sort of same cost of running similar to hot air blowers ( I don't refer them as heaters) however depending upon use , These oil radiators can be a bit cheaper.

Quite right too. Thanks.

If you have not opened/used the lidl one , you can return it and get this one. :stuck_out_tongue:

I've always thought that fan heaters use more electricity by the very fact that they have a fan which is run by electricity.

Happy to be proved wrong if that's not the case :-)

I also feel that oil heaters are safer - especially with teenagers kicking around...

This might help a few :smiley:https://www.sust-it.net/heating-energy-calculator.php?tariff=38

Plus fans cool, so that cancels out the heating a bit but on the other hand these have wheels so less friction, when moving than fan heaters, which in itself creates heat.

ordered. Fed up of fan heater.

Thanks OP

But the energy from the fan also ends up as heat. I suppose some of the sound energy might escape the room so by a tiny % this is probably technically true but you cant get more heat for your electricity.

Fans give the impression of cooling. They emit heat. Only a small amount but all the same it's heat. Don't leave a fan running in an empty room in summer it will be adding to the room temperature.

I like solution based, useful answers, thank you :laughing:

Great price for the power output.

The key thing for me with these is that they are a much smaller fire risk than other heater types with open elements, fans etc... They can also be used in bedrooms whilst you sleep because they're near silent. Why I'm buying one for my parents.

That and the fact I had a load of Clubcard vouchers that needed using... :stuck_out_tongue:

Ordered - thanks OP!

There's a lot more comments/questions about this on Amazon if anyone needs convincing::man:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Oil-Filled-Radiators/Fine-Elements-Filled-Radiator-2000/B00DEQL4ZC#Ask

Let's assume your Fan Heater is 800W - the fan will add maybe 5w at most to that, so it's hardly a big deal and more powerful fan heaters make that even more trivial.

The major difference between a fan/convection/panel heater and an oil-based-radiator like this is that the former heat the air and move it around when they're on and do NOTHING when they're off wheras the latter heat-up and hold that heat over time so that the areas is warmed more consistently (tho more slowly at first).

So, if you want to warm-up a room quickly but not for any extended period of time, use a fan heater wheras if you want to keep a room warm for a longer period, use a radiator.

Oh - and if you only want to warm yourself up, some sort of halogen (the heaters with the glowing bars) heater is better as because they specifically warm people up faster than anything else (e.g. the room warms really slowly but you'll feel toasty)

All heaters turn electropixes into heatpixies at the same rate - it's what they DO with that heat which makes the difference.

These heaters r fab I use these in my shop & home a must for the cold days.

It might work, but the problem is that electricity costs about 4 times as much as mains gas (about 12-14p/KWH as opposed to 3-4p). If the two radiators are getting hot throughout then the system is working properly, but they are not efficient enough. If they are older radiators then just change them for modern double or triple ones (or a larger size if there is room) and the problem should go away. This is a pretty easy job, there is no need to drain the system or touch the boiler, just isolate the radiator, remove it, bolt on a new one, turn the valves back on and bleed the air. A modern radiator will only cost something of the order of £50, and will be much cheaper in the longer run than using any electric heater.

By the way: I've voted cold on this item because £20 is pretty much the normal price.

They do not last long , probably get one winter out of them...if your lucky

thanks for the reply. clearly I didn't put enough info. the 2 radiators we have are doubles, of decent size and fairly modern (property only 7 years old). they take up pretty much what room there is for them so unfortunately I don't think 'upgrading' them would be possible for issues of space, also they seem to be modern already.

As for cost, we have a lot of rooms so when our central heating on we're easily heating 3-4 times as many radiators as these 2 in the bedrooms, so it's swings and roundabouts really.

cheers.

Assuming that you dont have a window open, the next thing to check for are draughts that may be coming into the room and cooling it down (bad seals around the windows, gaps under skirting). does the room have an outside wall? is there any loft insulation above the room?

do the radiators need "bleeding"? it may be there is some air trapped in the system and they are not heating up fully. Also remember that water follows the path of lease resistance, so if it can get round the other rads easier than these then it will, solution is not to turn this one up but to turn the others down a bit, it can be a very fine balancing act.

It's just the one room that can't be heated properly? Hmm, there could be a leak I guess? One of our bedrooms was extremely cold and it turned out to be the window seal not actually sealing when closed. The problem in the other bedroom is drafts which are easy enough to fix by putting some fabric at the bottom of the door to close the gap between the door and the floor. It could also be a lack of insulation in that room, for instance in my last house one room was an extension but that fact wasn't obvious from the outside. That extension didn't have any insulation in the walls it turned out.

I can't help thinking that your problem may lie elsewhere. A fairly large (say 600mm x 1200mm) double radiator has a thermal output of about 2.2 KW, so if you already have two of those in the room and it is not warming up properly I suspect adding a 2 KW electric heater probably will not solve the issue. My son's room at our country house is 6m x 5m and has a high ceiling with a Velux window, but one radiator of that size heats it perfectly well, so unless your bedroom is even larger (much larger) than that I suspect you have a problem elsewhere.
The first (and cheapest) thing to do would be to bleed the radiators to make sure there is no air trapped. If you don't already have TRVs fitted to all your radiators it would be worth getting them so you can control each room independently (this is a bit more fiddly - the system has to be drained down and refilled, so you would not want to do that until the Spring).
As someone else suggested, it would be worth checking for draughts and insulation, but if the house is only 7 years old it should not have those problems (it is still worth checking though - builders don't always do what the building code says). It is easy to check the loft insulation, less simple to check the walls but if there is something wrong they will feel much colder than the others in the house.
I'm still finding it hard to understand why the 4 KW or so of radiators you already have in your modern house can't warm a bedroom sufficiently. If none of the above works you could try an electric heater, but it will be expensive to run (about £5/day if you leave it on all the time).

Thanks OP - was actually looking for one so truely saved money :-)

ordered mine yesterday at 7pm.
it's ready to collect today at 9am

Too many 1 star reviews on Amazon to make this worth it. Looks really poor quality.

:sunglasses: Go to amazon link and see for yourself and check for 5* reviews as well -
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Oil-Filled-Radiators/Fine-Elements-Filled-Radiator-2000/B00DEQL4ZC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485165185&sr=8-1&keywords=fine+elements+oil+filled+radiator

ordered - good to keep as a backup.

That's not the hduk way, you come on here and buy something you didn't need or want because it had a saving.

Must try harder!

Presumably you had a bad experience with one. Unfortunately that's statistically insignificant though.

been there, done that :sunglasses:

Would this be good to keep a single car garage warm?

Yes, but always look for 1* reviews before 5* reviews. 5* reviews seem to based on the immediate experience of radiators, the 1* look to be from people who've have had the item until they failed. This is clearly a poorly constructed item. An item with so many 1* reviews, is clearly not a good product. I understand you're trying to defend your post, but I'd rather people didn't waste their money. It's false economy to save money on a poor product.

No-one can possibly answer that accurately for you without far more information. What part of the country? Which way does it face? How many entrances? How draught-proof? Is the door insulated? The walls? The roof?

So long as you filter out the irrelevant ones, such as "dead on arrival" where it will be replaced anyway.

Just analyse it from a psych point of view as well. If someone has a good experience ( between 3-5 stars ) , the probability of reporting that is far less as compare to someone who has a bad experience ( lets say 1-2 stars ) . Apply variations as well - and consider half of 5* feedbacks are fake. Even then in this scenario, better reviews on the higher side.
I have no need to defend my post mate as I would gain nothing out of it. Everyone is capable enough to decide on their own. People sharing their experiences benefit everyone.

Try a product called radflex. You might be losing lots of heat through the walls behind the rads.

I wouldn't bother with this.
Would get a 2kw electric one with thermostat.
For those wanting to know running costs you use the same method as for any electrical appliance. First of all find out you unit cost of electricity (KWH). Then look at the label on any electrical appliance to find rating in KWH.
In this case its 2kwh so it costs 2×unit cost per hour to run. Dont forget those costs apply to it running on maximum but you should start off on lowest thermostat setting then increase as required.

I don't know what the quality of fine elements is like, nowadays, if tesco is willing to take them on, but I've had a couple over the years and they've broke on me after about a years use, the wheels break fairly quickly after a few months and apparently they're not covered by the 1 year guarantee and the build quality is not that good. I actually heard one blow internally, so a safety hazard as well. I always buy dimplex now, good build quality, sturdy, wheels are intact, and they've probably got good customer service, I wouldn't know I've never had to call them. Albeit, you pay a little extra, but I think it's worth every penny.

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​I would stick with the Lidl heater, plus is you get 3 years guarantee with Lidl and a replacement of anything happens to their heater, with this you'll be lucky to get a year out of it.

​This particular brand isn't silent, I didn't know that until I bought a dimplex, the fine elements brand makes weird noises. I've had 2 and both were the same in terms of build quality, the only thing going for them is the price and that's for a reason. I would avoid this brand.

Great offer! Thankyou.

Huh? This is a 2kw electric with thermostat isn't it?
"This high-powered 2000W radiator is fitted with an adjustable thermostat"

I read a fair bit of the reviews on amazon before I ordered. It might just be me but when I read through I found a common theme that either the item arrived damaged or seemed like it was bought from a third party seller (which in my experience on amazon almost always sell a cheap replica, not original). IMHO.

​l rekon you would need to have this turned upto max even for a small room.
A room with a high btu this would be useless

​no instant heat either.

​They may have the same output that doesn't mean = efficiency. Just like led bulbs, 4watt led = 40watt conventional

As has been discussed at length in this and other threads - there is no efficiency issue when it comes to heat. All of the energy consumed will end up as heat. Whereas with a light bulb only some energy becomes light (the rest becoming heat).

But you're right about the instant start issue. These kind of radiators take a while to warm up so are good for longer period steady heating - not a quick blast.

good price this branded one is much more elsewhere even for the 1kW.

Not really - it would prevent it from freezing but unless the garage is insulated (particularly the door) then this heater (and any similar one) would struggle to maintain a temperature differential of 10C, and doing so would use about 24*2*0.13=£6.24/day.

I don't think you were listening during the GCSE physics lessons!

This lack of basic knowledge used to surprise me but it's so widespread it's just depressing. What really startled me in this thread was the question about having to fill the radiator with oil...

I had a big argument with a guy at a car show who was selling halogen heaters that he claimed were 70% more efficient than other types of heater. I asked where all the wasted energy went with the "inefficient" heaters and he claimed it was "just lost". My attempts to teach him about conservation of energy didn't go down well and I was told to "just f*** off, as you clearly don't know what you're talking about". I suspect he didn't have a physics degree.

oos now :disappointed:

Still in stock

I saw it OOS and now back again with "!" of low stock.

Purchased today and very pleased. According to my smart electric meter it cost about 13pence for an hour to run on full power. Hope that helps someone.

I'd expect about double that. Either you've got a very good rate (about 7p per unit) or the thermostat is regulating it, which means you're not getting 2kW out if it.

Had the same problem, and we changed the radiator, same length but double rather than single. Did this with two rooms, the transformation was miraculous. Gone from ultra chilly in winter to toasty heaven. We had years of suffering :smirk:

Thank you

Thanks just what I needed

Id say it switches itself off for about 50% of the time via the thermostat. (having kept an eye on it throughout the evening whilst watching tv). The figures seem about right for 14pence an hour. (12p per kw tariff)

Nope , had those from Argos (Challenge, the name) a few times for me and relatives....and general opinion, they are crap

Ugh, really? I had suspected that some of these oil-filled radiators would have an overpowered heating element just for marketing, and yet would be too small to dissipate all that heat, the same way that motors get bigger and bigger in other appliances for no benefit.