I have just bought this and have no problem going for a Beko as I have had a dishwasher for 6 years and no problems. Bring on the brand snobs!
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kevinwallace56884
28 Jan 175#3
I've previously bought items based on which reports (most notably a Nokia mobile rated higher than an iPhone). Suffice to say, I no longer consider them worth the paper they're written on.
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barbiegirl
6 Feb 17#43
Nope. Wrong again. Always lease brand new cars apart from my classic AMG which I own. So wrong. Totally wrong. Again.
thomps121
5 Feb 17#42
Yes ... 3 years ... and running like new, you seem like the kind of person that buys a crap car, never gets it services and expects it to maintain itself for the life of the vehicle, while your at it why don't you go and buy some Beko fire alarms if you can, to help you rest easy at night :S
Pl
Codify
4 Feb 17#41
Bosch have licensed out their brand name for their lower range models. The cheap Bosches are actually designed and made in Turkey by a local manufacturer there. Unless you go for the upper end models you aren't really getting a "Bosch"
tommyturnip1
2 Feb 17#40
I paid £630 for a Miele DHR73431B about 7 months ago from Currys with £100 cash back from Miele so I ended up paying £530. It had a five year warranty but I took out another 5 years for £150. It seems to run a lot cooler than my old one so it must be better for your clothes but does take a lot longer to dry. I got £70 on Ebay for my old Miele dryer which was 12 years old and never needed any repairs, except when I moved it when I first got it and the bump knocked the belt off it's pulley. Miele came out the next day - no charge.
I'm just posting this for info, so if you're not in a rush and can afford the initial outlay it might be worth keeping an eye out for a similar offer as they seem to do similar offers a couple of times a year at Currys.
cmdr_elito
1 Feb 17#38
Would just like to add the issue with some of the indesit fires are the lack of an additional filter to prevent fluff entering the heat element. I have a Bosch dryer and it's design has twin filters to catch fluff. Indesit engineers are busy fitting these extra filters to recalled machines but it's indesit's choice to cut corners on design to deliver a cheaper dryer that has lead to customers being put at risk, the same applies to all the other cheaper brands like beko and hotpoint.
Hiltron09 to cmdr_elito
2 Feb 171#39
Sorry but this Beko has 2 filters. One inside the lid of the drum and another at the bottom of the machine located to catch any excess lint not caught by the first filter that enters the circulation system so well done Beko for keeping up with Bosch there. Credit where credit is due?
barbiegirl
1 Feb 17#37
Wow. 3 Years! Three!!! I'm not wrong. Re-read my statement and then look at your own. Sample size. Do you get the concept?
davilown
1 Feb 17#36
Great but that's a fridge freezer.......
thomps121
1 Feb 17#35
Don't forget AEG and Liebherr are also solid choices.
thomps121
1 Feb 17#34
To summarize, you are simply wrong in what you are saying, Bosch products are far from over priced. You really shouldn't skimp when it comes to large electrical appliances that you have in your home. That said its completely upto you, for example i bought an AEG Tumble Dryer from John Lewis Outlet and its been running like new for the past 3 years.
watty8883
1 Feb 17#32
Beko is a terrible brand from experience, better off paying off a bit more for something that will last like Bosch.
barbiegirl to watty8883
1 Feb 171#33
My experience is quite the opposite. Bosch is overpriced and trading on its Germanic nature and is neither well built nor reliable. My Beko items are keenly priced and have always been reliable.
Always safe to assume that a personal experience sample size is way too small to form any useful critical judgement.
malfesto
31 Jan 171#31
Depends on your budget but to name a few; Meile, Neff & Bosch. All solid choices.
fulabeer
31 Jan 17#30
Don't think i'm trying to put people off, rather hoping inform people to the less advertised draw backs. I really wanted one as we really hammer the dryer. (three boys)
I like they way they are far more gentle with the heat on clothes(shrinkage etc!). Also i wouldn't mind the saving on electric. Though i have read that heat pump dryers cannot be in a cold environment to work properly/efficiently (meaning they lose their advantage in the first place)
The way i understand it is that for commercial use they are very good. These places have a maintenance staff dedicated to servicing and maintaining them. And the work space is kept at the most efficient temperature. Even small savings will add up in a commercial environment to make them worth while.
For domestic use, the argument is less strong. They are more complex so will have a higher chance of failure, and will more expensive to fix. The reviews all seem to say they take much longer to dry (not an option in our house!), and that the clothes never feel totally dry (like a vented dryer).
I'm going to keep my eye on them though, as i live in hope that they will improve to lessen the current drawbacks.
(off to cry reading my electric bill! :smiley: )
matthat
31 Jan 17#29
I have had one of these for well over a year (maybe 3 years)- had no problems and dry's well without putting heat into the clothes, so they better looked after - so I can recommend, it puts out no moisture and we have it under the stairs - yes it takes 3 hours to dry a load but uses very little electricity.
just for information on how they work - basicly it's a fridge and a fan so the cold part collects the water an then the warm part and the fan takes the water out of the clothes. there is actually not a lot to go wrong!
dereklogan7
31 Jan 171#28
Only white goods allowed into the USA. Trump says the black one's could be fire bombs. :sunglasses:
redjay1
31 Jan 17#27
I just bought my second beko heat pump dryer - last one died after four years. Got another for a bit over 400 with a five year warranty from co-op. Dryer is on most days of the year (live way up north so weather isn't great and have both adults working full time so appreciate the time saved over hanging out tbh). saves on average 30p a dry over a conventional dryer, so £2 a week, averaged over 40 weeks per year, £80 per year. So yes I could have got a regular condenser for £200, but years 3-5 it will save me about £240 in electricity. And I don't reckon a regular dryer will last much longer than 5 years anyway. Obviously bag of a fag packet calculations. But IMO they can make sense. Also I have smoke alarms fitted and I never go to bed with the dryer running!
androoski
31 Jan 17#26
OTher benefit of heat pump, they don't need a vent and they don't produce the large amount of humidity that a condensor dryer can.
esspee
31 Jan 17#25
Gas dryers are marvellous if you have mains gas, which not everyone has, though they do require regular maintenance.
Though the heat pump technology works in a similar manner to a fridge/freezer and has many common components, the Beko fridge freezer fires related to failures of the auto defrost timer, a device fitted specifically to fridges/freezers. That said, the defrost timers Beko fitted must have been of poor quality or design to fail in this way, and it is evident when you take these Turkish manufactured machines apart that they are cheaply made, using poor quality components.
Personally, I think it's about minimising risk. A fridge is a fairly low risk device in the normal course of events, but I don't think I would leave a conventional tumble dryer to run unattended, in the same way I wouldn't leave a fan heater running unattended - they both have high temperature heater elements. As these heat pumps don't have such an element, they should, in theory, be safer than an equivalent conventional dryer.
One thing to bear in mind though, heat pump dryers are far more complex devices, and can require periodic regassing.
fulabeer
31 Jan 171#24
I did a bit of research when renewing my dryer. It seems at least for now, heat pumps dryers aren't a good idea for domestic use. They are more expensive to buy, take much longer to dry and are VERY expensive to fix when they go wrong. Even with long/extended warranties, you need to check which components are covered. Avoid "parts" only warranties.
It's a shame gas dryers aren't more wide spread. You can get one fairly cheap, but getting one installed is another matter. You have to run a gas feed, and then find a gas fitter who is registered to fit/service them.
lucifercalling
28 Jan 171#1
Which? verdict
Satisfactory and affordable drying 59%
Ive been looking for a while.. tempted, but not that highly rated by Which?
PROS
Dries the load evenly, energy saving, easy to use, low running costs
CONS
Quite slow, not as accurate as many
Hiltron09 to lucifercalling
28 Jan 17#2
Appreciate the input. Read a few reviews across a few sites and the consensus is most users seem happy with it. I suppose at its price point it's unique.
Furthermore I've always wondered exactly how impartial Which? are.
uktottys to lucifercalling
30 Jan 17#23
I've never seen accuracy associated with tumble dryers! :smile:
malfesto
30 Jan 17#21
I work for a white goods manufacturer. Dealings I've had with Beko haven't been positive for the most part. I'd be hesitant to jump on this deal. Budget appliances are budget appliances for a reason.
throwawaysociety to malfesto
30 Jan 17#22
Which brands would you recommend?
throwawaysociety
30 Jan 17#20
I had a Beko tumble dryer, and a man actually came to my house to check the serial number - if they find something wrong they will make sure everyone knows. In saying that though that though the Beko tumble dryer I had lasted about 5 yrs which isn't that impressive...
Codify
30 Jan 17#19
I'm sure their fridge-freezers don't get as warm either, but they still catch fire
thorpe
30 Jan 17#18
To the people saying heat pump driers don't get as hot, so chance of fire is lower, the first hand tale is from a Beko FRIDGE setting fire. Appreciate the logic, but the tale therefore seems to indicate overall electrical issues, not specifically build quality of the heating aspect.
(appreciate fridge heat exchangers do get hot, but ultimately a fridge should be in the lowest of risks of a heating element based fire)
tij303
30 Jan 17#17
It wouldn't apply the offer for discount on the website - in fact there was nowhere to apply the code I think because it isn't 'over' the £349 limit. May be me though. However I called them and they did honour it without any fuss (apart from the usual extended cover hard sell). Thanks for the post really good deal and next day delivery. This is now the bit where I think I'm really clever surprising my wife with the gift of a new drier and get bemused when she isn't overjoyed. Tactically I suspect I need to do the first weeks loads.
tom_gov
30 Jan 171#16
i had a beko washing machine that set on fire £1000s of pounds in damage to my kitchen NEVER AGAIN
sandozer
30 Jan 171#15
Had a gas powered tumble dryer for years, super efficient and cheap to run. Faster than electrickery too.
davilown
29 Jan 17#14
I've had a Beko heat pump dryer for almost 5 years - they are so much better than standard driers if you just look at the running cost. in addition, they dry well too as long as you clean the filters on a periodic basis (the main filter on every use is easy to do).
As for the quote about Beko causes fires - not these as they don't get any where near warm let alone hot!
ScottChegg
29 Jan 17#13
Im going to chime in on this. As a white goods service engineer, although I haven't seen a vast range of the heat pumped dryers, the ones I have seen have all required expensive repairs, when they go wrong. Just saying.
General review by UKWGHere
Dave_Lee_
29 Jan 171#12
Not sure if you know how a heat pump dryer works, but they run at a lot lower heat temperatures so fires are unlikely.
But I'm sorry to hear the story about your mum, and I'm glad she is alright.
Hiltron09
29 Jan 17#11
Very sorry to hear that. Understandable why you are put off.
I currently have a Beko dishwasher (6 years, no problem) and an Indesit washing machine of the same age with no problems.
It almost seems inconsistencies in build rather than design. I only plan to use while awake and at home, and hopefully the lower operating temperature of the heat pump technology will make this a safe to choose.
Having said all that, all manufacturers have had issues. Who thought Samsung phones would start exploding into flames?
playaz
29 Jan 17#10
I got this just before xmas - really good so far, had no issues with it and feel impressed by it at the moment.
Just remember to empty the water, and the TWO filtering units.... it is easy to forget
cmdr_elito
29 Jan 17#9
Beko, hotpoint and indesit are currently the brands which are worst offenders for causing fires on various ranges of their products due to cheap design. Some of this is public knowledge and they have issued mass recalls, others like my mum's beko fridge (a non recalled version) decided to set fire to my mums kitchen. She luckily woke up and got out but it destroyed a good chunk of the downstairs and smoke damaged the entire house and it happened over a year ago and she still isn't back in her house yet, hopefully next month! Fireman said those brands are causing a lot of fires at the moment and it's not specific to particular products. I'd give these brands a wide berth.
barkercs
29 Jan 17#8
Excellent dryer. I bought the white one about a month ago and we're very pleased it with it. Fair enough it takes longer (usually less than the stated time) but the energy savings per cycle is worth it!
cmdr_elito
29 Jan 171#6
Bargain if you want your house to burn down.
Hiltron09 to cmdr_elito
29 Jan 171#7
Assuming either your house has burnt down or someone you know. Please explain as I have this arriving tomorrow.
voteleave2016
29 Jan 17#5
Had this for nearly a year. Very economical
And a great dryer. I have the white one
Paid £380 from AO last February
MissyZara
29 Jan 17#4
Great price for a heat pump machine heat added! Just debating now if to go for this or the Siemens posted recently...
kevinwallace56884
28 Jan 175#3
I've previously bought items based on which reports (most notably a Nokia mobile rated higher than an iPhone). Suffice to say, I no longer consider them worth the paper they're written on.
Opening post
Link for white
http://ao.com/product/dhr73431w-beko-condenser-tumble-dryer-white-36590-18.aspx
Use code 25APPLIANCE for £25 off the price.
I have just bought this and have no problem going for a Beko as I have had a dishwasher for 6 years and no problems. Bring on the brand snobs!
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Pl
I'm just posting this for info, so if you're not in a rush and can afford the initial outlay it might be worth keeping an eye out for a similar offer as they seem to do similar offers a couple of times a year at Currys.
Always safe to assume that a personal experience sample size is way too small to form any useful critical judgement.
I like they way they are far more gentle with the heat on clothes(shrinkage etc!). Also i wouldn't mind the saving on electric. Though i have read that heat pump dryers cannot be in a cold environment to work properly/efficiently (meaning they lose their advantage in the first place)
The way i understand it is that for commercial use they are very good. These places have a maintenance staff dedicated to servicing and maintaining them. And the work space is kept at the most efficient temperature. Even small savings will add up in a commercial environment to make them worth while.
For domestic use, the argument is less strong. They are more complex so will have a higher chance of failure, and will more expensive to fix. The reviews all seem to say they take much longer to dry (not an option in our house!), and that the clothes never feel totally dry (like a vented dryer).
I'm going to keep my eye on them though, as i live in hope that they will improve to lessen the current drawbacks.
(off to cry reading my electric bill! :smiley: )
just for information on how they work - basicly it's a fridge and a fan so the cold part collects the water an then the warm part and the fan takes the water out of the clothes. there is actually not a lot to go wrong!
Though the heat pump technology works in a similar manner to a fridge/freezer and has many common components, the Beko fridge freezer fires related to failures of the auto defrost timer, a device fitted specifically to fridges/freezers. That said, the defrost timers Beko fitted must have been of poor quality or design to fail in this way, and it is evident when you take these Turkish manufactured machines apart that they are cheaply made, using poor quality components.
Personally, I think it's about minimising risk. A fridge is a fairly low risk device in the normal course of events, but I don't think I would leave a conventional tumble dryer to run unattended, in the same way I wouldn't leave a fan heater running unattended - they both have high temperature heater elements. As these heat pumps don't have such an element, they should, in theory, be safer than an equivalent conventional dryer.
One thing to bear in mind though, heat pump dryers are far more complex devices, and can require periodic regassing.
It's a shame gas dryers aren't more wide spread. You can get one fairly cheap, but getting one installed is another matter. You have to run a gas feed, and then find a gas fitter who is registered to fit/service them.
Satisfactory and affordable drying 59%
Ive been looking for a while.. tempted, but not that highly rated by Which?
PROS
Dries the load evenly, energy saving, easy to use, low running costs
CONS
Quite slow, not as accurate as many
Furthermore I've always wondered exactly how impartial Which? are.
(appreciate fridge heat exchangers do get hot, but ultimately a fridge should be in the lowest of risks of a heating element based fire)
As for the quote about Beko causes fires - not these as they don't get any where near warm let alone hot!
General review by UKWGHere
But I'm sorry to hear the story about your mum, and I'm glad she is alright.
I currently have a Beko dishwasher (6 years, no problem) and an Indesit washing machine of the same age with no problems.
It almost seems inconsistencies in build rather than design. I only plan to use while awake and at home, and hopefully the lower operating temperature of the heat pump technology will make this a safe to choose.
Having said all that, all manufacturers have had issues. Who thought Samsung phones would start exploding into flames?
Just remember to empty the water, and the TWO filtering units.... it is easy to forget
And a great dryer. I have the white one
Paid £380 from AO last February