I just ordered one of these to go with my Open Media Vault server.
Has good reviews.
Delivery time is 1 month however it looks to be much cheeper than everywhere else. I am in no rush for it so I was willing to wait.
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mikedigitales
17 Jan 175#2
Standard price for this one really, been this on Amazon for 6 months or so according to the camels - plus I'd aim for a true sinewave not a stepped one if I was buying - you can get refurbed APC Smart-UPS unit for this sort of money with new batteries on eBay for anyone looking to for a good unit.
mrwhitelabel
18 Jan 175#7
I use a ups on my CCTV DVR
Want 24/7 power even if power cut. I've got router hooked up to it to so that stays active so alarm can notify via LAN if power cut. if phone line cut also then it's screwed for dialout but will hopefully dial out if they cut power first
qinyanggl
18 Jan 173#9
Isn't it the highest price for this product in the recent months tho?
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MeneerSmith
17 Jan 171#1
I used to have this and it worked fine. Think I paid £80 for it.
Standard price for this one really, been this on Amazon for 6 months or so according to the camels - plus I'd aim for a true sinewave not a stepped one if I was buying - you can get refurbed APC Smart-UPS unit for this sort of money with new batteries on eBay for anyone looking to for a good unit.
leedale30 to mikedigitales
18 Jan 17#11
Any links?
MisterHDUK
17 Jan 17#4
you could just get the ones that look like a large multi plug.
smr1
18 Jan 17#5
Does it use usbhid-ups so it can communicate with some NAS boxes?
jasee
18 Jan 172#6
Does anyone need one nowadays? Unless you are running a full microsoft domain with clients and servers (unlikely). Nowadays operating systems simply recover if the power supply fails. Chkdisk may run on startup (MS systems), but full recovery is normal. The only reason for a UPS is to give you time to manually shut down some application or service but what services or applications are there that need this?
And maintaining a UPS is expensive. The batteries need to be replaced regularly. It may give you some protection against brown outs if it is hooked up to all your machines. But that requires a big UPS and (again) is it necessary?
steevieboy4u to jasee
18 Jan 171#12
For small power glitches/failures this is ideal as then there would be no downtime / reboots or possible data losses due to hard drives losing power
mrwhitelabel
18 Jan 175#7
I use a ups on my CCTV DVR
Want 24/7 power even if power cut. I've got router hooked up to it to so that stays active so alarm can notify via LAN if power cut. if phone line cut also then it's screwed for dialout but will hopefully dial out if they cut power first
jasee to mrwhitelabel
18 Jan 17#8
Now that is a good reason! :smiley:
Craigius to mrwhitelabel
18 Jan 17#23
What size one did you buy to the CCTV and the router may do this myself
Sid Harper to mrwhitelabel
20 Jan 17#38
ditto :smiley:
qinyanggl
18 Jan 173#9
Isn't it the highest price for this product in the recent months tho?
magsbags751
18 Jan 17#10
bah
trott3r
18 Jan 17#13
Hopefully a ups will filter and smooth out spikes and troughs improving life span
kennethsross
18 Jan 17#14
would never update BIOS or other firmware on any device without having it plugged into a UPS.
kamy786rulz
18 Jan 17#15
got an APC UPS boxed at work, small project to undertake is to hook it up with a server, are there any specific safety precautions I need to be aware of?
my colleague was holding off installing lol beacuse last time he did (4-5 yrs back) the first time install meant connecting the UPS to live eclectric and there was a massive bang/pop so gets scary.
MeneerSmith to kamy786rulz
18 Jan 17#25
I dont like the boom and click sounds at all, and know what he is talking about!
I turned every other thing in the house off just in case.
I dont know if there are approved safety measures but I would use any spare kids you have to turn this on or just boot the plug into the socket then run away like I did. :P
deadphill
18 Jan 17#16
Are all the cameras powered by the DVR? I'm asking because if not to get them working in the event of a power cut you either need to have them running off of batteries or you will end up with a running DVR with blank images!
Cheers
Phill
sibeer
18 Jan 17#17
Cheers for that, gone for a lead, but this is a better deal for a multi socket adaptor (more sockets, less cost):
Yes the are IP PoE cameras. Power over Ethernet from the DVR
nwxan90
18 Jan 171#20
Good Spot I have updated my order thanks!
Maffew
18 Jan 17#21
How much time would something like this give me to save my work and safely shutdown? Could this support 2 machines running i7's?
leedale30 to Maffew
18 Jan 171#22
One thing to note is that a good PSU will not like and may not work with a UPS if it not a true sine wave type, most cheap ones are simulated sine wave.
trott3r to Maffew
18 Jan 17#24
25mins on a quad desktop 900va
decanay to Maffew
18 Jan 172#35
I had an APC 700VA UPS about 6 years ago on a Sandybridge i7 PC (no discrete gfx, 3 mechanical hdd, ssd, 24" display). It lasted just under 20 mins new, after 6 months down to under 15 mins and I returned it for a 900VA Cyberpower which lasted just under 30 minutes but that had a better life span.
The main reason I invested in one was for working from home in a slightly flaky power area, tiny dips in power that caused reboots, frequent short outages etc.. This fixed the reboots, so it's great if that's an issue in your area. For the short outages it means you still need to save/shut down, which isn't good if you work from home. I would recommend other options, particularly as this doesn't appear to be such a good deal anyway - why so hot when it's the highest price Amazon have ever sold it for?
Not currently available, but regularly under £90, I picked another up for £74.99 from Amazon a few months ago. Double the capacity of the APC, compact in comparison, and powers the above system for nearly 1 hour when needed. Haven't been forced to shut down the machine in over 3 years.
For the average PC user, a ups is unnecessary, but those that will benefit from it will end up wanting more than this offers I think, and there's much better value to be had if you shop around.
t002236
18 Jan 17#26
Is that normal? Don't like the sound of that, might give this a miss....
MeneerSmith
18 Jan 17#27
lol, it is normal.
It is like the crackle sound when you turn on a PC using the psu switch on the pc while the mains is on and every so often the PC makes a strange crackle sound. The ups is just a bit louder and a bit scarier.
What to be afraid of is this...you need to connect one cable to the battery but in transit sometimes the other cable comes loose and there are no instructions to help so you need to 50/50 it...one works and the other explodes! Yeah, kidding, if this happens look at the online manual for attaching a replacement battery to it and dont 50/50 it under any circumstances. :P
steevieboy4u
18 Jan 17#28
This is what is usually inside these
If one of the battery cables disconnects its just a matter of reconnecting it the POS or NEG terminal on the battery it has come off????
cheekster
18 Jan 17#29
Is there an easy way to find out how much power a desktop PC and/or HP microserver use and therefore which rating of UPS is suitable?
I would not bother with the trailing socket, just buy a c13 male to female connector for all of a quid and cut the male off. Then wire it up to a cheaper standard 4 gang extension lead.
Mrepg
18 Jan 17#31
Would this power a central heating pump & boiler ignition?
Brilliant, Thanks for all the info. I work from home 5 days a week too so it's pretty much the same issue.
leedale30
20 Jan 17#37
I can't see the links?
Is this one pure sine wave? Seems to be but I am not sure.
mickael28
22 Jan 17#39
I've always had a laptop but a couple of weeks ago I bought a PC tower. I was thinking today, do I need to get one of these devices? ie, what could happen if there's a power cut and the PC shuts down whilst I'm going something?
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Opening post
Has good reviews.
Delivery time is 1 month however it looks to be much cheeper than everywhere else. I am in no rush for it so I was willing to wait.
Top comments
Want 24/7 power even if power cut. I've got router hooked up to it to so that stays active so alarm can notify via LAN if power cut. if phone line cut also then it's screwed for dialout but will hopefully dial out if they cut power first
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If you dont have a 'kettle lead' setup then this one is more suitable as it has normal plug sockets:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002RXED6A/ref=twister_B00LLFWXLM?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I have also ordered:
To go stright to the server
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003OSO2Y0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And this one for any other things I might need to power off it in the future.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00BTKXXLS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And maintaining a UPS is expensive. The batteries need to be replaced regularly. It may give you some protection against brown outs if it is hooked up to all your machines. But that requires a big UPS and (again) is it necessary?
Want 24/7 power even if power cut. I've got router hooked up to it to so that stays active so alarm can notify via LAN if power cut. if phone line cut also then it's screwed for dialout but will hopefully dial out if they cut power first
my colleague was holding off installing lol beacuse last time he did (4-5 yrs back) the first time install meant connecting the UPS to live eclectric and there was a massive bang/pop so gets scary.
I turned every other thing in the house off just in case.
I dont know if there are approved safety measures but I would use any spare kids you have to turn this on or just boot the plug into the socket then run away like I did. :P
Cheers
Phill
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Audio-Video-Cables/IEC-Gang-Mains-Extension-Sockets-Lead-Cable/B00ADU2T9M/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1484733359&sr=8-6&keywords=C14+plug+-+13A
The main reason I invested in one was for working from home in a slightly flaky power area, tiny dips in power that caused reboots, frequent short outages etc.. This fixed the reboots, so it's great if that's an issue in your area. For the short outages it means you still need to save/shut down, which isn't good if you work from home. I would recommend other options, particularly as this doesn't appear to be such a good deal anyway - why so hot when it's the highest price Amazon have ever sold it for?
This is the one I'm running now - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00BUJBDEM/
Not currently available, but regularly under £90, I picked another up for £74.99 from Amazon a few months ago. Double the capacity of the APC, compact in comparison, and powers the above system for nearly 1 hour when needed. Haven't been forced to shut down the machine in over 3 years.
For the average PC user, a ups is unnecessary, but those that will benefit from it will end up wanting more than this offers I think, and there's much better value to be had if you shop around.
It is like the crackle sound when you turn on a PC using the psu switch on the pc while the mains is on and every so often the PC makes a strange crackle sound. The ups is just a bit louder and a bit scarier.
What to be afraid of is this...you need to connect one cable to the battery but in transit sometimes the other cable comes loose and there are no instructions to help so you need to 50/50 it...one works and the other explodes! Yeah, kidding, if this happens look at the online manual for attaching a replacement battery to it and dont 50/50 it under any circumstances. :P
If one of the battery cables disconnects its just a matter of reconnecting it the POS or NEG terminal on the battery it has come off????
Currently considering this UPS:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B002RL0CKI/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
plus this trailing socket:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00ADU2T9M/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2X1ST6CC1USDW
Thanks.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Energenie-429-856UK-Power-Meter/dp/B003ELLGDC/
But (as I've already said) there's generally no problem with pcs or microservers, if you simply disconnect the power nothing is lost
https://www.amazon.co.uk/APC-Back-UPS-700-Uninterruptible-BE700G-UK/dp/B002RXED6A
I went through flubit and paid £57.75
Is this one pure sine wave? Seems to be but I am not sure.