SONY has officially dropped 3DTV 2017 moving forwards even on there high end sets. I admit i wasnt a fan of 3D till i bought my tv of the year SONY HX853 2012 model cant get enough of it. i guess my upgrade will have to be a 2016 model not the 2017 A1 OLED :wink:

I've read all of these threads and the only real option to avoid ridicule appears to be 'be incredibly rich.'

I'm not, but really need a new TV as my decade-old 1080i 32" Panasonic is going down.
My question is as such: what's better, a 55" like this (which I gather is 8 bit+dithering) or a smaller 10 bit eg 49" Samsung k7000?

I know bigger is better with 4K, but I can only do £800 at a stretch to last into the next decade.

Hi David can you tell me the model number that you think is better than Hisense 65KU 7000. Thanks and regards

Hiya David. I just copy n pasted the review I posted. Just thought it would be helpful to anybody non techie (like myself) that had no idea about the HDR thing and would have just believed the manufacturers blurb.

Lol, I'll wait then.

Hi Thanks for the info I am buying a 65 4K HDR TV up to 1150, and I am tempted with the HISENSE 65 K7000...what you think?? Do you reccomend somethig else as I am a 77 years old and NOT a connesseur!!! Many Thanks and Ciao

4.0 out of 5 stars Beware of the Specifications of the 55" & the 65" TV, this are 2 different models with only the 55" capable of some HDR content, 17 Nov. 2016
By
Bruno C.
This review is from: Sony Bravia KD65XD7505 65 inch Android 4K HDR Ultra HD Smart TV with Youview, Freeview HD, PlayStation Now (2016 Model) - Black (Electronics)
Was going to purchase this TV, either the 55" or the 65" and decided to do some digging about this 2 models and explain some concepts that are misleading for the consumer in all the TV brands nowadays, that requires research to fully understand this concepts, putting it somewhat resumed;

Main thing people need to be aware nowadays is the wrong publicity of what is HDR and if the TV accurately reproduces its content, just so you know, for a TV to display HDR content correctly, the minimum requirement that a TV needs to have are:

1. Peak brightness above 500 nits for an Ok to good HDR experience or Peak brightness around 1000 nits for a FULL HDR content;
2. Colour gamut of at least a 8 bit colour display with FRC (FRC is a technology that allows a 8 bit colour display to emulate a 10 bit colour display), or even better a real 10 bit or 12 bit colour display (but lets ignore those because their prices are for someone who have a really good wallet, and are the ones that should give you FULL HDR content);
Note: 8 bit colour: 16,777,216 colours (24 bits: 8 red, 8 green, 8 blue).
Note: 8 bit + FRC and 10 bit colours: 1,073,741,824 colours (30 bits: 10 red, 10 green, 10 blue).

I'm just explaining this because most of the cheapest models of the TV brands say they have HDR, just really don't have it, which I believe its false advertising for the consumer and a really set back when you think you are really buying a good TV with all the goodies for a good price. Putting this way, you think you bought a Ferrari, but you were given a Fiat with the looks of a Ferrari.

So basically, if you buy a 8 bit TV that says it reproduces HDR, this is a lie and you don't even need to care about brightness in that TV, simple because it doesn't have a display that can reproduce all the HDR colours. Example: 55" Samsung UE55KU6400 or any 6000 Samsung (2016 TV series).

Now lets go to the brightness, although to have a FULL HDR experience, the TV display needs at least 1000 nits of peak brightness, you can still enjoy a good HDR experience if the TV display reaches half that value, 500 nits, off course you wont have the full HDR experience, but the price difference between the models are something to take in consideration. Bellow 450 nits of peak brightness in a TV, the HDR experience isn't going to be noticeable at all and will come blurred and with fake colours in the display.

Since I put this away and I hope you understood this about all 4K HDR TV'S, here are the main Pros and Cons of this 2 different size and TV models:

64.5" Sony KD-65XD7505
Pros: £1300 is a Good price for a TV of this size, it has an IPS 8 bit + FRC display, a refresh rate of 120Hz which usually is only seen in high end models, the backlight is Direct Led, the Motionflow XR is at 800Hz.
Cons: The max peak brightness is only 350 nits, which means it wont be able to reproduce an ok level of HDR content and the pixel density is at 68 ppi.

54.5" Sony KD-55XD7005
Pros: It has an IPS 8 bit + FRC display, the backlight is Direct Led, The max peak brightness is the minimum 500 nits, which means it will give you a good level of HDR content and the pixel density is 81 ppi.
Cons: The Motionflow XR is the lowest at 200Hz and the max refresh rate is 60Hz.

Conclusion:
While this are 2 very good models, what one lacks, the other one possesses, while the 65" TV lacks the HDR content, the 55" TV is capable of it with the problem of a low refresh rate that shouldn't be noticeable unless there are really fast images.

I Hope this review between the 2 models let you choose better between this 2 TV's, but also gives you some enlightenment for all the options in all TV brands and if it actually supports HDR content, which is a main factor when investing in a good TV for the Future.

If only this had 3D :disappointed:

This is 10 bit. States this in the description on the JL website

Get a projector as the 3D on there is stunning. Never going back to a TV now

I own this TV in the 65 inch version.It is a cracking TV,4k and HDR is stunning,Dont listen to the tech heads playing it down.I bought this TV after returning a Samsung 65ks8000 with white blotches,banding etc,supposedly a premium TV The Sony is good all round picture.pleasant on the eye.

Same price in John Lewis with a 5 year guarantee,.

John Lewis, or Simply Electrics,its a no brainer for me ?

http://www.johnlewis.com/sony-bravia-55xd7005-led-hdr-4k-ultra-hd-android-tv-55-with-youview-freeview-hd-playstation-now-silver-shaft-design/p2987240

Pay the extra and get a Samsung ks7000. Fantastic tv for the price.

Price up

Looks like no Dolby Vision HDR... shame...

Was tempted, now I'm dithering(pun intended)

So not true 10 bit HDR? I'm tempted. I was going to hold out another year or so to get a 55+ OLED for 700-800 (if that ever happens). What to do ...

So not true 10 bit HDR? I'm tempted. I was going to hold out another year or so to get a 55+ OLED for 700-800 (if that ever happens). What to do ...

There really isn't

SONY has officially dropped 3DTV 2017 moving forwards even on there high end sets. I admit i wasnt a fan of 3D till i bought my tv of the year SONY HX853 2012 model cant get enough of it. i guess my upgrade will have to be a 2016 model not the 2017 A1 OLED :wink:

If only there were actual 4k HDR content to watch

Yeah but its stunning especially the Nimiba Special.



Prob 8bit + FRC but i doubt the brightness reaches 1000 nits so wont be HDR premium. i dont think you can get a 10bit on anything less than the KS7000 prices.

4K films? 4k footie.

8 bit or 10 bit panel?

does it have 3d?

not this year's, it's now 2017 :wink:

good price.
Same price @RGB,
£729 @ JL