My new years resolution- remind myself that sports supplements are for the most part a waste of time. They are the trimmings on healthy and balanced diet.

It's easy to get the 20g or so of protein that these products offer from other sources that will leave you feeling much fuller.

Why not put your £10 towards a slow cooker and do some healthy meal prep?

Thank you for reading this unsolicited rant.

A calorie is simply a unit of energy. It tells you nothing about how your body processes that source of energy when you digest it. Your body responds differently to 500 calories of "fat" to 500 calories of carbs. One increases your insulin level, and the other doesn't.

Only reason why a "calorie controlled diet" may work is because you are actually reducing your insulin spikes... Because you are eating less carbs.

I disagree completely with your comment. The clue is in their name - supplements. They supplement your diet. Just like all foods you consume them in moderation and as a part of a healthy balanced diet.

When I am training, it can be difficult to get 200g's of protein into my diet. A protein bar or shake is a fast, direct solution.

Weight loss has nothing to do with calories.

Good deal, but only for Prime members according to T&Cs

Can't go wrong if you usually purchase your sports nutrition from Amazon. A great deal, thanks!

Good find, I've taken the plunge. Be interesting to see what the £10 voucher actually works on though...

Good find and thanks, heat duly added!

Cracking deal if you use this kind of stuff.

Thanks hopefully not too many restrictions for the voucher

Would this be good for someone counting calories? Can't find specific calorie content

Great spot!
I was going to buy some more BSN edge pwo and it has 25% off through vouchers making it £13. I'll hopefully get that for £3 making these free.

I also added this craft set which is £32 but has a 50% voucher making it £16.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01M4P0E4Z/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Amazon still thinks it's £32 so with that and the fitness pack I just needed £8 more to spend and got the big thanks code to work.

Paid £23.49 in total (£10 I'll get back hopefully when I buy the pwo)

thats a great deal even if you dont use the voucher tbh, this would make a very nice gift for gym going person!

ordered

Cheers ordered one, it'd be pretty good for weight loss as well I reckon, as these shakes are fairly low in calorie and would keep your hunger at bay.

does anyone know if the shakes are gluten free?

Here are the T&Cs of the offer:

Awesome, thanks!

Cheers. Ordered. Now to wait for all the new years resolution people to quit the gym so I can start again.

Looks good thanks :smiley:

Not worth it. You just get the bottle that leaks and sample sachets, should be free anyways.

Excellent stuff. Ordered!

Tone muscle...SMH

implies to me the credit can be used on most Diet and Nutrition products as per the hyperlink in the T&Cs ?

hyperlink takes me to page with a right variety of stuff ?

My new years resolution- remind myself that sports supplements are for the most part a waste of time. They are the trimmings on healthy and balanced diet.

It's easy to get the 20g or so of protein that these products offer from other sources that will leave you feeling much fuller.

Why not put your £10 towards a slow cooker and do some healthy meal prep?

Thank you for reading this unsolicited rant.

Nothing to do with calories? Could you explain a little more Sunni?

LMAO some people talk utter crap, know your stuff before you sprout some lies

toning muscle.... yup... sure you are.

It's not free it's effectively bogof

Great deal, no good for me though due to the carb content in a lot of it

anyone know if the voucher can be used for warehouse whey deals?

A calorie is simply a unit of energy. It tells you nothing about how your body processes that source of energy when you digest it. Your body responds differently to 500 calories of "fat" to 500 calories of carbs. One increases your insulin level, and the other doesn't.

Only reason why a "calorie controlled diet" may work is because you are actually reducing your insulin spikes... Because you are eating less carbs.

I would hazard a guess my knowledge in the field is a tad more than yours, but hey ignore my "crap" if it keeps you happy :smiley:

heat...essentially free as you get £10 to spend on sports nutrition sold by Amazon.

Basic thermodynamics, calories in, calories out.

Eat more than you burn = fatty bum bum

Great deal!

Great deal!

I agree except when buying something like whey powder is bulk, its cheaper than food, quicker and has a complete protein profile. Protein bars are a complete waste of money are abloody awful.

agreed! it's like chewing a shoe!

but like I said, "for the most part a waste of time"

great deal!

orderd. hope promo credit applies to subscribe and save orders. I buy ON gold every month.

​nope. check T & C

I'm sure there is more to the basic science. In that regard I won't disregard your comment.
However if your body consumes 2,500 calories worth of energy. It doesn't matter if you consume 2,000 calories of carbs or fat. Your body will metabolise in order of easy access first. So if the carbs are used first as sugars normally are, then the 500 caloriedeficit will come from body fat stores.

The outright exact nature of it means nothing to the average person. They just need to know that a calorie deficit will lose body fat. Not necessarily weight, if exercising muscle mass will increase.

Is this good value for money just the box alone?

How do you get the code?

​Exactly. The "IIFYM" approach. You can easily lose weight eating chocolate digestives if you want. It will just require enormous willpower as junk food is calorie dense. There are so many fad diets trying to pretend that foods act on the body in different ways, but losing weight is actually pretty simple.

​I always take a break between mid December and early Feb. Can't be bothered with the rush and the new roid heads staring at you while you do a set.

this is a similar deal for the sport nuts

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/high5-selection-pack/

Thanks op.

Wait, what?? Are you ACTUALLY serious? Weightloss is ONLY about calories.
Spend literally 5 minnutes reading up about Thermodynamics, TDEE, and Weightloss and yoi will see that the ONLY way to lose weight is to eat at a calorie deficit - aka Eat fewer CALORIES than you consume.
3500 calories = 1 lb of fat
That tiny bit of information is the first golden rule of weightloss - and calories is a big part of that equation...
SMH at some people

oh wow, just read this too :laughing: I genuinely hope you don't advise your friends and loved ones like you do innocent strangers online. Well, feel free to advise them, but I hope they just smile and nod along.
You clearly are one of those people who know a little bit more than the average individual (or believe you do at least) and therefore become a dangerous source of information as you go out and propogate other with your supposed "knowledge in the field". Read up on it buddy, you could learn a thing or two.

Comical comments aside - cracking deal OP - if only to trial a few different products that I wouldn't have otherwise.
Variety (especially for lifters) is the spice of life afterall :-)

It would be funny if you could use the credit to buy this again indefinitely. :stuck_out_tongue:

Yep, agreed. Buy bulk protein powder and you have a daily drink or two for far less than any of the shelf drink.

I disagree completely with your comment. The clue is in their name - supplements. They supplement your diet. Just like all foods you consume them in moderation and as a part of a healthy balanced diet.

When I am training, it can be difficult to get 200g's of protein into my diet. A protein bar or shake is a fast, direct solution.

Most of the research is still based on poor articles that were written with no scientific evidence whatsoever. They were merely accepted because a 'reputable' organisation told us so. You don't believe the media for everything they state, so why believe poorly written 'research'?

People can lose weight on very high 'calorie' diets. In fact, people lose weight while eating and doing little if any exercise. How do you explain that one with your 'laws of thermodynamics"?

There is the issue of the body adjusting to fewer calories and down regulating as in burning fewer calories over a timeframe of being on a restricted intake. The body can also enter survival mode.

Therefore it isn't just a case of eating fewer calories to lose weight. Medical issues like thyroid or cortisol issues can play havoc with trying to lose weight too.

Sometimes a calorie dense meal like a small pizza and/or eating more nutrient dense wholefoods can help to increase the fat burn when calories have been restricted for some time and results are no longer forthcoming..

It's all down to tailoring it to the individual. We are indeed individuals and therefore some people may require slightly more fat than carbs than others; or a bit more protein but less of something else. Just in the same way medicines do not work in the same way for all people.

Calories in vs calories used has its place. Adjusting the requirements needs to happen too when losing or bulking up but other caveats need to be considered too.

Research showed someone did lose weight from eating junk food with a set daily intake of calories. Although junk food isn't healthy. What is more important is working out what calorie intake an individual's requirement is and the person meeting that requirement with nutrient dense food consisting of carbs, protein and fats. Some people are not having enough calories and others too many.

There is also the issue of consuming enough water daily.

You are literally spouting complete ****. I seriously cant tell if you're trolling. People lose weight if they consume less calories than they burn - regardless of where the calories come from. Give examples of this 'poorly written articles' and point us to some of your work on the subject as you seem very educated..

It has everything to do with calories.

You need a calorie deficit to lose weight.

oooo hell no, im celiac and pretty allergic to gluten. I just struggle to find much stuff that I can have

No. The box alone is full freebies and a shaker (£2)

Ordered, thanks

Some decent stuff in this box. Optimum nutrition protein is good stuff

Garbage

Which is very low in all of the products bar maybe the ready to drink shake

It's rather simple to explain actually (which is good, because there is a limit to how much I will try and explain to somebody incapable of hearing the truth and learning from it), those people who lose weight even when on a very high calorie diet have bodies and activity levels which expend an even higher level of calories, therefore they are still eating less than they are using. When that happens, their bodies revert to stored body fat to compensate for the calorie deficit. That explain it any better for you?

Use to eat all this kind of stuff when cycling. So much of this kind of food is packed full of sugar.

I now tend to eat a high fat diet. I avoid sugar and pretty much all carbs - bar veggies. Don't get colds which plagued me when I was skinny. Once your body adjusts, fat is great fuel source. When I was being strict (very low carbs, 20 grams a day and limited protein) prior to cycling in the Alps I was the lightest I'd been since school. Never hungry from eating fat as it fills you up.

I could also ride 70 miles on a Saturday morning after taking on a coffee for breakfast, nothing else. I'd have an omlette when I got home as my recovery - eggs are fantastic. Most of the people I rode with ate ridiculous amounts of food, especially when the speed went up. I took a Baby Bel as my food comfort blanket but rarely ate it.

Losing weight from a calorie restricted diet does work but feeling hungry all the time isn't easy. I've tended to fail.

Pizza is my favorite food by the way..... :sunglasses:

Very true, people have very different and very individual caloric requirements, which is why I mention above the TDEE (total daily energy expenditure). This is an important calculation to understand, as there are number of factors affecting your daily requirements, age, sex, height, weight, activity levels, body fat %.
The first thing, naturally, is that as you lose weight your requirement would decrease. That's why it is recommended you recalculate your TDEE every few months when on a weight loss/weight gain program, to adjust your calorie intake accordingly.
That is also why there are strong recommendations against drastic attempts to either lose or gain weight too quickly (losing anything more than 2 lbs a week isn't normally advised) if you cut your calories too much, then it doesn't really leave you anywhere to cut further and maintain a healthy balance and still ensure you're meeting your minimum nutritional needs. This is why, even when cutting weight, the occasional "refeed" day is good for body, mind and soul (eating at what is known as your "maintenance level" I.e the amount of calories required to simply maintain current weight).

The body doesn't really go into "survival mode" per se, as you will always need a minimum amount depending on the factors above (even comatose people have a fairly high level of maintenance calories).

I appreciate medical issues, but they would apply to such a small percentage of the population as to be somewhat irrelevant for Joe Bloggs. For 99+% of people, it will be just a case of eating fewer calories than you burn. That last part is important as people shouldn't just assume the key is eating less (you run the risk of eating too few and not being able to function healthily) but maybe you should try to expend more calories. Eat less AND move more.

And true, water water water! And more water!!

I happened upon this yesterday and it arrived today. Great value!

Great I can get this box, eat pies and sit on the sofa, take these supplements - and lose weight all at the same time.

Bought yesterday, delivered today and I have already lost 10 pounds

Just out of interest has anyone been able to use their £10 voucher yet?

He is actually correct ! Calories are not equal, 500 calories of chocolate/biscuit/cake is not the same as 500 calories of meat or veg !
People have bought into the calorie myth,just like reduced fat foods,just like cholesterol,that have been drummed into us for 30+ years. Reduce sugar,refined carbs and non healthy fats and you will lose weight and be healthier. Also being overweight is not an accurate sign of health,you can be healthy overweight and also unhealthy skinny,it's more complex than weight or BMI etc. The body/brain needs healthy fat,protein,cholesterol it has no need whatsoever for carbs.

"Survival mode" is largely myth, its made out to be something it really isn't. Your metabolism will only drop a small amount, its hardly worth factoring in. Exercise for the same reason, you have to do a lot of it very frequently for it to make a dent, 99% off people dont enjoy exercise, so its unsustainable. Oh and exercise will make you feel hungrier! Diets are pointless, people dont enjoy them, and what are you going to do if you ever reach your goal? Stop the diet and get fat again? Also people seems to think eating healthy means its automatically low calorie. You'll get fat no matter what you eat if you eat enough of it.

Losing weight is so simple rule, just stop eating so bloody much! For faster results, target the carbs part of your diet. You might feel hunger to start with, but it gets easier.

With all due respect, your average gym goer, even serious trainer does not need 200g of protein. I'm guessing if you're taking in 200g you're one seriously big dude.

Define healthy fat. A common misconception is that saturated fat is bad for you. We've had this line for years and it's wrong.

I only eat butter nowadays - I used to eat those terrible alternative spreads. Cream, not milk, in my coffee. Circa 20 eggs a week. My cholesterol is very low.

I agree with most of what you are saying by the way.

200g protein is 800 calories. So in a 2000 calorie per day intake it leaves 1200 for fats and carbs.

So if say a person eats 75g of fat per day as there intake which is 675 calories (9 calories per gram of fat)

Leaves 525 calories of carbs which is 131.25g. So this could consist of a couple of servings of basmati rice, a portion of porridge oats; as well as vegetables

This is not meant as a recommendation for anyone. Just showing as an example of a possible breakdown.

You eat basically what I eat lol
Yeah the "Fat" subject is quite complex tbh,I could list good vs bad but that would just go on and on...

But basically:
Any meat,fattier the better !
Fish,oily fish best but any fish. But not battered (chip shop) !
Eggs ! Eat as much as you like tbh 25+ a week for me :smiley:
Butter/cream - but not milk (includes sugars) !
Coconut or Olive Oil - I use coconut oil a lot in cooking
Full Fat Dairy - Not low fat or fat free !

I agree those so called "veg" spreads are nasty with unnaturally high content of omega-6 fat. Have no health benefits, tastes bad. Statistically linked to asthma, allergies and other inflammatory diseases.

hope you're not trying to lose weight...
because without a caloric deficit it won't work :smile:

just going against the grain here. The deal is not "effectively free" - i pay £10, which I never get back, on a niche item. In return I get a £10 credit to buy another one or something else in the selected Sports Nutrition and Slimming items.

not free

Why is this getting so much heat? I'm not quite seeing the bargain?!? You can get more for your £10 with Phoenix Nutrition, Myprotein, BBW, Lindens, Peak Nutrition, Redwells, etc etc

I actually agree with Sunni
If Your body burns Sugar/Carbs, then Fat & Lastly Protein.
By ditching Carbs/Sugars for Protein, weight will fall off quite quickly as the body burns through the excess Carbs/Sugars.
This is why the Atkins Diet worked for most men initially (quit booze, chips, breakfast rolls, etc.). However you will quickly hit the weight loss wall when your body balances out - or runs out of excess carbs. So then you need to adjust your diet as your body adjusts. Plus you need to excercise

Because you spend £10 & get £10 back

£10 back on what? Select items? What items?

Clear as mud.

you get £10 promotional purchase to spend on sports nutrition or slimming products.

If you want to gain muscle you should consume 2.2g/protein per kg of body weight - I weigh about 90kg :smiley:

Yes, keep telling yourself that.

Can anyone point me in the right direction of receiving the code? the box just arrived but i cannot seem to find the code on my account.

thanks :smiley:

Always love a good weight loss discussion. :wink:

In all seriousness, making it as complicated as where our body sources its calories and which macronutrients are the devil - don't even get me started on micronutrients - is the reason why weight loss feels so inaccessible to so many people. Talk about shifting goalposts.

At the end of the day, if you eat below you TDEE you will lose weight. It really is THAT SIMPLE. Eat your daily expenditure in carbs and you'll be ravenous; eat it in protein and fats, and you'll struggle to hit 2000 cals in my experience. That's why I'd recommend shakes for weight loss, because they satiate you wonderfully, but that won't be true for everyone - and it won't be true every day.

Many different approaches have worked for many different people. There's a saying I hear frequently in the weight loss world: the only good diet is one that you can stick to.

Heat for the deal. Thanks for posting.

It is not effectively free... Its effectively half price (£10 on at least £20 spend)

As far as losing weight, a calorie IS a calorie. There is no getting around this.
Look at the guy who did the twinky diet - he ate the worst kinds of foods - absolute sugary junk and still lost weight because he kept his calories below maintenance.
Twinky diet
If you eat more than maintenance of anything, even salad, you will gain weight. I think some people are in denial here & think they don't have to eat less & move more as long as they eat the right kind of food. That would be a mistake.

Amen brudda! People always looking for the easy way out and finding "facts" that suit their already preexisting train of thought. Calculate TDEE, eat below = lose weight, eat above = gain weight.
Always eat balanced and healthy, use common sense, which easier said than done in most cases. It's a wonder that it's called common sense actually, as it seems to be anything but common

Calories in v calories out does work.

They merely show that there are factors that modify how the calories in v out is working.

Put it this way, a 2 litre car engine will still burn 10 litres of fuel just as much as another car.

However depending on how it is set up, it may burn the fuel at different rates.

Doesn't mean the law of thermodynamics is not working, just means it is set up slightly differently and the fact engineers can actually work this out show the law works.

In the same way our bodies all have different muscle mass levels, body fat levels and hormone levels, insulin sensitivity levels, anabolic response to protein etc and thus the human 'engine' will burn the fuel in just the same way - just some human 'engines' are more efficient at doing so.

Put it this way, some people gain muscle easier than others - doesn't mean the rule isn't working, just there are different variables.

Another way to see the rule works is when people with thyroid issues, or go on contraception etc use medications - we an see the hormonal adjustments at play.

Add the pill or take it away, we see the law being followed by the introduction, or removal of the hormone.

I should factor in protein levels need to be around 1g/lb bodyweight if muscle mass matters - so one cannot really swap out protein to take it below this level.

Again this shows the law works - merely the body is built with protein/amino acids .

Using the car analogy, you cannot power a petrol engine with water... again doesn't show the rule doesn't work merely shows there is a variable that is needed with certain things to allow energy to be transferred.

Remember that protein is very similar to carbs, with a nitrogen shell (which is why it can be stripped away to make energy).

Got mine today, good variety and well worth the £10. Shakes look good as they Low calorie, good filler between meals. Although one of the bars has 15g of polyols, laxative stuff.

I agree that food is better than supplements hence why they are called supplements however a body builder will need 3,000/4,000 + in cals per day. If you work full time its almost unrealistic to suggest you can take that much food in unless you have a very relaxed employer.

In addition, taking in protein as soon as you finish training has been suggest that its better than a hour later so unless you plan on eating a chicken sandwich in the changing room a supplement is a quick and easy way to get x amount of protein straight after training

Exactly this, "weight loss" has everythign to do with calorie deficit. How healthy and fit your body is needs a bit more involved but pure weight loss is calorie counting, no more no less.

How to look and feel good - be on a calorie deficit. Make sure 40% of your calories come from protein. Make sure you're eating foods with high micronutrient content (or you can supplement....) Simple!

Anyone got the £10 promotional credit to work?

Yes. They sent an email to confirm it had been applied. It stacked with the 25% voucher thing they are doing I got a 24 quid item for 8 pound and change.

No not yet. But I only purchased yesterday so hoping it'll be sent out soon so I can get some cheap bcaa

Would you mind linking to the healthy meals you speak of sir? Genuinely would like some guidance.

can anyone link to the products that are applicable to the £10 promotional credit? I can't seem to find them? ?

For the vast majority of people, a calorie controlled diet is an extremely effective first step for short to medium-term weight loss.

As others have said: Weight loss hinges very heavily on calories in and out. Whilst supplements would be encouraged for general health or to build actual muscle, it really cannot be understated how important it is that people get their calorific intake under control first. Look up the 'Twinkie Diet' study as some anecdotal evidence for this/

My box arrived today, very happy with the contents. A nice little range for £10 including some new things to try, and I'll definitely use the credit.

So yes, very good deal. Not sure why the comments have veered off so much. Get it if you want it, if you don't - then don't.

Oooh, I love opposite day!

Got mine today ordered yesterday, great little box with some good stuff to try.

Only thing is I haven't go the promotion for £10 off voucher, how do I get this do Amazon send you an email?

Yes. I received an email from Amazon a day after I had received the box.

5.4kg bag of O.n's serious mass can be had for £26 with subscribe and save, could use this deal to get it to £16 possibly?
I'll be using a regular scoop instead of the bucket they supply, should last me a while!!

Sure. One thing that has caught my eye recently is fitmencook.com - the app is great. Also have a look at the myfitnesspal app, where you can easily log your meals. Do that for a couple of weeks and you'll get a rough idea of what your typical calorie count and nutritional balance is each day- that's your jumping off point to make some healthy changes. There's really not a great deal more to it than that- good luck!

quick note for people using the £10 voucher, Add something to your basket that has the 25% off (such as the grenade range) (ignore the subscribe and save at this point too) go throgh to the checkout and you'll see the saving listed minus the £10 voucher, minus the 25%

if you then click on the subscribe and save (extra 5%) it actually doubles the saving.

can do step by step guide if needed

great deal, thank you

Found the fatty

And the Earth is flat as well I suppose

:stuck_out_tongue:

So if I eat only 500 calories a day I won't lose weight, because of insulin spikes and whether it's fat or carbs? Your wrong there, i will lose ****, and that is because I am not eating enough calories to maintain my weight. Methinks you are making a brash bold statement that has some truth but talking complete and utter rubbish about calories having nothing to do with it.

Hi mark,

Can you link me to what you used your voucher on, how do I get in on this 25% dealy you speak of?

Do you add the item into the basket as a single order, delete it and go back and add the subscribe & save?

I couldn't find the s&s after the item is added.

Thanks mate.

Yes please, I can't get this to work

Anyone know if I can buy more than one of these and get duplicate vouchers or is it one per account/one voucher per transaction. My box is coming today so not had voucher yet but wondered if could use two towards a purchase plus the 25% offer as 25% seems to be a one off voucher so not sure whether to just buy two items I want at around £25 each using one voucher plus the 25 code or if I'd get away with 25 + 2 vouchers or do it both separately but losing the 25% off second purchase. Sorry I've made that sounds more confusing than it us lol :confused::laughing:

Technically not true, he could still eat 2500 calories, even more, but exercise like a demon and still lose weight.

Heres the process i followed:

went to: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Grenade-Thermo-Detonator-Management-Supplement/dp/B0037R7X8U

clicked on the voucher for the 25%

right hand side selected 1 time purchase and added to basket (make sure this is the only item in your basked)

at checkout browsed under the delivery instructions and ticket the box that said "Save 5% on your purchase today and up to 15% on your future Subscribe & Save "



this updated the price and took the voucher off twice

When does £10 discount show up? I bought yesterday. I received my item. I want to buy the discount Whey deal before it runs out.

It technically IS true. Because if he exercised like a demon, as you put it, he would still be in a calorie deficit, he just got into that deficit through exercising (burning calories) instead of diet.

Congratulations on clocking up a healthy IQ deficit.

Calorie arguments aside (and I know I have contributed more than enough to that debate haha) can I just say this as still a cracking deal. I ordered yesterday, the box turned up today, you get:
3 x whey protein
3 x diet whey
2 x BCAA
3 x different types of bars
1 x grenade fat burner pills
1 x shaker
1 x ready made shake

I know sa few people have mentioned that these are all sample sizes, and that's true, but most places still charge £1-£2 for single serving sample sizes (ahem looking at you 'my protein') so this gives you 13 different "samples" plus a large shaker for just £10 delivered (again, looking at you and your delivery charges 'my protein'). If these deal critics would kindly post links as to where you can get a load of free samples I am sure there are more than enough people here who would be grateful - otherwise, £0.71 per unit is not a bad shout at all.

Plus the £10 off code was emailed through 5 minutes after the delivery, so I have just picked up a box of 12 grenade carb killer bars (other bars are available of course, but why bother - I'm all about that Caramel Chaos for life!) for a bank breaking £3.29.

£3.29 for 12 bars that generally run you back near enough £1.50-£2 each in most high street stores.

Thanks to the OP for the link, thanks to the other contributors for the 25% off deal, and most of all, thanks to Sunni aka Mr "weightloss has nothing to do with calories" for the laughs :laughing: you don't half make me chuckle friend.

Suitable for vegetarians?

I ordered 2 of the myprotein choc peanut 1kg impact whey protein at £8.95 each with my £10 discount :smiley: Thanks OP

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/uk3/MyProtein-Chocolate-Peanut-Butter-Impact-Whey-Protein/B00I95O3XI/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1485191040&sr=8-1&keywords=myprotein%2Bchocolate%2Bpeanut&th=1

Ultimately we've all trying to act on the latest knowledge for weight loss - weight gain and weight loss is more todo with insulin spikes as opposed to calorie intake, look into ketosis. Without insulin, your body can't store fat, but insulin is made to lower blood sugar levels which is raised by eating carbs.

Arrived today, some stuff that'll be interesting to try, though unfortunately the bars are all full of nuts (I'm allergic) which is annoying.

With the £10 I've ordered almond butter (1kg tub from bulk powders), and glocosamine sulphate (also bulk powders). For a total of £13 not a bad return!

yes then he would lose weight because he needs more than his 2500calories intake :wink:

Looks like it's gone now guys!

The email you will receive in regards to the voucher for £10 off:

I haven't received the email from Amazon, but a rep on live chat advised the £10 discount code was only applicable to another order of the sample box??

He may not, the exercise may include resistance, muscle is heavier, so its possible to put on weight.

A calorie deficit will always lose body fat (and muscle if not enough protein and/or calories too low).

All these guys naturally dieted with me and my wife's coaching business, on high carbs. Keto is not magic. Merely a calorie deficit as well.

Thats not even remotely true. In trials of sugar based diets even those on relatively low calorific content still saw increases in visible body fat.

The reverse has also bern true, individuals on high calorific and high fat diets have averaged considerably lower body fat and increased lean muscle mass.

A calorie is not just a calorie.

Add an item to basket and proceed to checkout and it should appear can also click the 25% off if that offers still like as I got a £26 item for £9. If voucher doesn't appear don't proceed to pay now or any confirm or 1click option!

I just wanted to warn about the diet pills included with this package for anyone who hasn't used them yet. Grenade Fat Burner ones. I don't think they are suitable for people prone to stress or anxiety as I have been taking one for the last few days along with my usual vitimains and it's the only change to my diet really and have had really bad anxiety and anger issues. Thankfully you only get four so I ran out yesterday but I was taking them just thinking I was having a bad week and it was only today it kind of clicked it was likely them as my moods improved. Not sure what's in them as no longer have packaging and it's not clear but please be cautious as I've seen reviews on Amazon of people becoming suicidal and stuff after taking diet pills. I've just been very agitated and argumentative all week feeling super annoyed at everything and everyone one. My doctor gave me diazepam yesterday to chill me out but stupidly I forgot all about these tablets as had put them in with my daily vitimains so was still taking one a day til trial ran out. Still a tad short tempered today but not so bad. Just been emotional and really frustrated last four days so I'm 90% sure it was the 4 tablet supply!!! :confused:

I suspect all the caffeine in them has caused your experience. Both caffeine and green tea (contains caffeine) . Oh and so does Green Coffee. Lots of caffeine!

Supplement Information Per 2 caps:
Green Tea 500mg
Bitter Orange Powder 420mg
Caffeine 225mg
Cayenne 200mg
Phenylalanine 25mg
Green Coffee 10mg

Ingredients

Green Tea, Bitter Orange Powder, Caffeine, Cayenne, Phenylalanine, Green Coffee, Bulking Agent (Magnesium Stearate), Gelatin Capsule (Purified Water, Colours E133, E102, E129) Titanium Dioxide.

Source: https://www.grenade.com/uk/thermo-detonator

Hopefully you are feeling a lot better now after getting the caffeine out of your system. At least you only took 1 pill per day.

Thanks for the information! Does look like all it can be down to is the caffeine. I'm glad to say I've been back to normal since I stopped taking them thanks. Was just a very strange few days for me and thought I was losing the plot. Don't even need to lose much weight was more as a pre workout energy boost but if anything I've put on some weight as I couldn't focus on working out and was eating more due to having a four day panic attack.

I wouldn't be surprised if they packed extra caffeine into the sample pills so the effect was more noticed but I guess my body wasn't in the mood for all the caffeine. I've tried pills before with high caffeine content but maybe I've just had counterfeit ones in the past and these are the real deal! Whatever the case I'm sticking to water and exercise now that I'm back to normal again! :confused:

Great deal though for the other contents and voucher! :smile:

This is from the amazon advisor

"Spencer , I have checked and I apologize that currently the items are not available from this manufacturer .
Due to this I can't give you the items name .
I would request you please check the website after some times. You will see the items ."

I just want to use the voucher, he says he can't tell me what I can use it on and it is out of stock. Can anyone tell me more?

Same. I just want to use the voucher

I can't seem to find my voucher anywhere. Wondering if maybe I used it already without realising.

Edit - Oh, I see... it only seems to work on a limited subset of items. Hard to tell exactly what.

Unexpire back on

I got some macushield it was also on 3 for 2. So 3 boxes for £45 instead of £85 and gives me a good time to evaluate it.

Hmm. I do a lot of Cardio and have taken one sachet after major workouts. I seem to have developed moobs. Is that normal for protein powders?

That's a bit missleading, i would rather say you get 10£ sample box for free as you had to pay 10£ for it first to get that 10£ credit...