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colgrigson
14 Dec 16
A lot of phone for the money, provided you can live without Band 20 for 4G

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Basic Information
Model Xiaomi Redmi 4 (3GB + 32GB)
Network 2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
CDMA2000/1X BC0
3G: WCDMA B1/B2/B5/B8
TD-SCDMA B34/B39
4G: FDD-LTE B1/B3/ B7
TD-LTE B38/B39/B40/B41(2555-2655MHz)

SIM Card Dual SIM: Micro SIM + NANO SIM / TF-card
(One other SIM slot can in combination with one NANO-SIM card or One TF Card Be Used)
Style Bar
Color Gold, Black, Silver
Shell Material Metal

System
OS MIUI 8
CPU Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 2.0Ghz Octa Core
GPU Adreno 505, 650MHz
ROM 32GB
RAM 3GB
Card Extend Yes, support external TF card up to 128GB

Screen
Display Size 5.0-Inch
Type FHD capacitive touch screen, 72% NTSC color gamut
Resolution 1920*1080 Pixel, 443PPI, 1000:1 contrast ratio
Multi-Touch Yes
Top comments
ws007 to sam_of_london
14 Dec 16 4 #25
​Fcuk me here you go again
pavel76
14 Dec 16 3 #41
What you gonna do about Inland Revenue ripping you at the petrol station ? Happy ?
woldranger to GustafPangmaar
14 Dec 16 3 #30
​Don't, don't, don't start him off!
jordni
14 Dec 16 3 #16
Have you ever purchased anything from any of these major companies that was software?

i reckon the data collection is where the dolla is at.
All comments (65)
Dealishere
14 Dec 16 #1
would 4G work on 3 network in the UK?
copycatuk to Dealishere
14 Dec 16 1 #5
Yes i think band 3 (B3) is 1800mhz which 3 runs 4g on

Edit http://www.4g.co.uk/4g-frequencies-uk-need-know/
RichieRahh
14 Dec 16 #2
looks a quality phone, great specs too... and won't cost £600+ :laughing: HEAT!
lacasaloca
14 Dec 16 #3
What version of Android does it run?
Baz417
14 Dec 16 #4
Exvellent value for the money. Great specs. Heat added Op.
antonywhite37
14 Dec 16 #6
10 quid cheaper at aliexpress as posted last week
featch
14 Dec 16 1 #7
The specs tell me this is for the Redmi 4 Prime:

http://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_4_prime-review-1526.php

See here for the difference between this and Redmi 4 (2GB+16GB and Snapdragon 430):

http://m.gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/features/xiaomi-redmi-4-vs-redmi-3s-and-xiaomi-redmi-4-prime-vs-redmi-3s-prime-whats-new-and-different-1621770

Very tempting...
doncoop
14 Dec 16 #8
if this has had band 20 would have been my first choice. instead went for the note 3. will be a cracking phone. the redmi 3 is awesome and this just builds on it
doncoop to doncoop
14 Dec 16 #11
​with the 3, first came developer ROM, then a xiaomi ROM, then global.

flashing the xiaomi ROM required the bootloader unlocked after an easy flash of the developer ROM (done through their updater app).

so not the easiest. but someone a bit tech savvy should be OK to do it.
jams_2014
14 Dec 16 #9
I've just bought note 4 pro and love it. thinking of buying this for my mum for xmas. only thing putting me off is it not having global rom with updates.
When this becomes available does anyone know whether its easy to load?
thanks
little_green
14 Dec 16 1 #10
So many redmis.
How does this compare the the 3s prime that has band 20 and glabal6rom and was posted for 108 late week.
Also the note 3 pro global version with band 20 was posted for around 125 not too long ago either
jordni
14 Dec 16 #12
HOW DO THEY MAKE PROFFIT AT THESE PRICES??

LG said they made 1p per top of the range smart phone not long back, these guys are like 200-300 cheaper with same if not better specs
cheesemane to jordni
14 Dec 16 #14
Wikipedia (cough) says that they don't make a profit.

Apparently the aim is to distribute hardware at cost price, and make money from software and services.

They don't seem to be directly owned by the Chinese state, which might be considered a bonus
lhwjud to jordni
14 Dec 16 1 #18
LG's lying
comshoplesce
14 Dec 16 #13
jordni: do you believe that 1p story? because i don't.
winchman to comshoplesce
14 Dec 16 #45
Yeah, of course, Tim Cook told me Apple do it for the love.
soups
14 Dec 16 #15
Lg must be paying their workers high salaries!
cheesemane to soups
14 Dec 16 1 #17
They're probably including marketing costs, which are huge for lg. When did you last see an advert for xiaomi?
jordni
14 Dec 16 3 #16
Have you ever purchased anything from any of these major companies that was software?

i reckon the data collection is where the dolla is at.
charlie71
14 Dec 16 #19
How does something like this compare to a more mainstream smart phone like the Samsung s6 (for example) - this seems really quite cheap. I guess a more relevant question for me would be how would an s6 user generally find moving to a phone like this.
Thanks.
jordni to charlie71
14 Dec 16 1 #21
I Was using a cheap chinese phone not long ago, its build quallity was not great, and the screen glass was not tempered, so the screen cracked really easilly , however it was still usable...
the phone its self was very fast and more responsive than the galaxy s6 (which was the next phone i brought), i hated the s6 so much i sold it and brought an LG G4 Second hand.

over all, if you get a decent Chinese phone i doubt much can go wrong, where as if you cheap out like i did (phone cost just £38)
anthony212 to charlie71
14 Dec 16 1 #27
​The Samsung S6 is/was a high end phone, every component was top notch. This is a budget smartphone that's trying to give you the same experience. The camera isn't as as good, it won't be as zippy when playing hardcore games, the software updates won't come in, but other than that, you're getting a very good phone for the money. One thing about the Xiaomi brand that you can trust is the build quality, always metal
RiverDragon8 to charlie71
14 Dec 16 1 #32
You can configure the phone to how you like. If you wanted to have it like the S6 then that's up to you. After the latest update to MIUI 8.1 I think it's pretty much the same as other Android phones I've had in the passed.
cheesemane
14 Dec 16 #20
I assume they preinstall their own productivity and cloud suite which covers both purposes.

Looks like custom ROMs are available, so this could be a good buy
pavel76
14 Dec 16 1 #22
Cold... this phone cost £108 at Aliexpress + 8.8% quidco cashback making it <£100
Sockpuppetuk
14 Dec 16 #23
Anybody see any other colour than gold?
sam_of_london
14 Dec 16 #24
There is no B20 Band and no UK warranty on this phone.
ws007 to sam_of_london
14 Dec 16 4 #25
​Fcuk me here you go again
GustafPangmaar
14 Dec 16 #26
@sam, the UK warranty is you can buy 2 extra phones and keep them in your cupboard incase your main phone breaks. lol
woldranger to GustafPangmaar
14 Dec 16 3 #30
​Don't, don't, don't start him off!
ndl
14 Dec 16 2 #28
If you get the phone from AliExpress, it includes a one year worldwide warranty and a replacement service for additional £5-15.
batespcm
14 Dec 16 #29
I have one of these great phone great price
woldranger
14 Dec 16 #31
If these had a removable battery I'd be tempted, but it seems that less and less manufacturers are taking that route
litwoojczyznomoj
14 Dec 16 #33
You are wrong when it comes to software upgrades. Xiaomi updates their phone's OS with security patches and new features all the time. My Redmi Note 2(released mid-2015) received another update yesterday.
adybee
14 Dec 16 #34
Xiaomi tends to use a global ROM update for non chinese sales now - so you shouldn't have any issues with updates etc.. They are the 3rd biggest phone manufacturer in the world so their products must be ok.

The Redmi's look like great phones for very little money. Snapdragon cpu's are really good. I reckon the camera won't be as good as high end manufacturers but I never really got the obsession with camera quality - if I want to take great photos I'll buy a good DSLR.

I've had Cubot phones in the past and been really pleased with them. Basic phones with reasonable specs for under £100.

Ade
comshoplesce
14 Dec 16 #35
what about custom taxes?
doncoop to comshoplesce
14 Dec 16 1 #36
​your best bet is to select the standard delivery which takes 20 to 40 days. it's less likely, but is still possible.
mart321
14 Dec 16 #37
Will this get 4g on ee ? My HTC 10 is dead , need a quality replacement at budget price
swfarrington to mart321
14 Dec 16 #46
Well, I've got the Redmi Note 2 which doesn't have the Band 20 either and I'm getting 4G on both 3 and on Plusnet (which runs off EE, although it's calling it T-Mobile this evening).
batespcm
14 Dec 16 #38
Taken 4 phones from here with zero customs charges so far
sam_of_london
14 Dec 16 #39
​HM revenue and customs should be informed, some Chinese companies are ripping them by marking items in price below customs limit when sent by post.
badboyofrock
14 Dec 16 1 #40
​You should be informed to stop trolling threads about Chinese phones that you don't like, and think no one else should like either. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple.
pavel76
14 Dec 16 3 #41
What you gonna do about Inland Revenue ripping you at the petrol station ? Happy ?
SmilezMC
14 Dec 16 #42
What's the chances of this being delivered before Christmas to the UK?
doncoop to SmilezMC
14 Dec 16 #43
​if you select the standard. none I would imagine. select any other delivery method and you'll more than likely ha r to pay customs.
Pixl8 to SmilezMC
14 Dec 16 #44
I bought a xaoimi Mi5 from geekbuying and it arrived in 7 days...without a simcard tray so still battling to get it sent out - They asked me to send pictures!!!! Anyone know where i can get a simcard tray quickly?
ndl to SmilezMC
15 Dec 16 #54
I bought Mi5 Pro (4gb/128gb/2.15 quad core) last Thursday on AliExpress from Hong Kong Goldway shop. £275 for White ceramic Mi5, with 1 year global replacement warranty, express shipping (S.F. Express shipping - seller claims no custom's tax. The phone actually went to France first). The phone was in my hands in 6 days after placing the order. +8% cashback, so ended up paying £250. :smiley: I'd rather have this for £250 and get a new one in a couple years than spend £1500 on an iphone 5
bilaldude33
14 Dec 16 #47
is this running the global rom?
doncoop to bilaldude33
14 Dec 16 #48
​this is the redmi 4 prime which does not have a global ROM at present. you'd need to side load Google play services until it is available.
bilaldude33
14 Dec 16 #49
right got ya! cheers
swfarrington
14 Dec 16 #50
worth keeping an eye on xiaomi.eu for their ROMs.
Tafkawac
15 Dec 16 2 #51
One of the more interesting things about the missing Band 20 is the mhz - 800mhz - the lower the mhz connection the faster and more stable it is, but it doesn't reach as far. So within a city 800mhz gives a faster and more stable connection than, say, 1800mhz. BUT 1800mhz has a wider range, hence giving 4G support, albeit at lower speeds, for a greater distance. You'll invariably find that the 800mhz bands aren't available in rural areas anyway so having it missing wouldn't be such a hardship, but in the cities it would be, and often there would be no 1800mhz/2600mhz/etc support because of that.
Consequently if you live in a built-up area with a good 4G, you may well be connected to band 20. Rurally it's less likely. So there's a chance you could get 4G rurally whilst not getting in in the city. Food for thought eh?
Tafkawac
15 Dec 16 #52
But nice phone for the money - Heat!
badboyofrock
15 Dec 16 2 #53
​You've got it the wrong way round. 800mhz has less capacity to carry data, but can easily travel longer distances and penetrate buildings etc. 1800/2600 carry more data at higher speeds but over shorter distances. This is what you'll find in towns and cities. 2600 is what EE use for their 4G+ double speed service. 800mhz is the band you'll want to find in rural areas.

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/4g-and-lte-everything-you-need-to-know-926835
krazyhugo1
15 Dec 16 #55
Where do they ship from? How long is the delivery
davegg1975
16 Dec 16 1 #56
Clove have just started selling Xiaomi phones: Mi Max and Redmi Note 3

https://www.clove.co.uk/smartphones/xiaomi
msaquib
17 Dec 16 #57
I had a Redmi 3 previously. I had many issues with playstore will not download apps. Tried many different foruma and advice but still didn't work.

At the end I was fed up luckily the seller accepted the return of the phone without any problems.

Anyone else had playstore issue with this phone?
doncoop
17 Dec 16 #58
what ROM and how you got the play store on there will make a difference. I had issues with the redmi 3 when I just side loaded the play store and the other apps needed like play services etc. but that was setting it up.

once those apps had time to update and configure then they worked fine, just the initial set up was a pain.

once the xiaomi ROM came out and I flashed that, not a problem.
scoon
17 Dec 16 #59
Does anyone know where I can pick these up in time for Xmas? I can't seem to find these on bang good or gearbest etc coming from eu warehouse, only the long wait China options. I appreciate I will pay more!
Tafkawac
17 Dec 16 #60
Well corrected Sir, Thank you.
kobirulali
20 Dec 16 #61
Once this releases as international variant will be pulling the trigger!
mart321
21 Dec 16 #62
Anyone looking for a decent phone. I've just got the ee deal on the huawei p9 lite and I'm amazed by how good it is. It's a replacement for the flagship android HTC 10 which broke and I'm honestly finding it a better phone. Bargain for £140. Super snappy and responsive. If it lasts I can't see myself spending silly money on a phone again.
doncoop to mart321
21 Dec 16 #63
​the p9 is a very good phone and theae xiaomi redmi 4 and note 3 are very similar.

with the p9 lite you'll get a slightly better camera and warranty.

these tend to get you a bigger ROM and battery. being a tech junky I'd much rather buy a new £150 each year and keep a decent SIM only monthly cost rather than thousands for one top phone over 2 years.
mhhbizz
23 Dec 16 #64
anyone got this? im thinking of buying this
mhhbizz
23 Dec 16 #65
just realised that this doesnt have nfc so decided not to buy one
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