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If I didnt need to upgrade my PSU to take this I'd be buying it. Arrrrggghhh!
The_Hoff to EportJake
19 Dec 164#7
Jake, most of your questions are answered in the post above, but your existing card really doesn't measure up to a Fury in any respect - David and Goliath.
If your PSU can take it there's nothing at that price that will touch it. I'm actually going to measure up and see if I can accommodate another...
Which brings me to my next point, make sure you can physically fit the card in your chassis, these cards are LONG.
If it's anything like my Sapphire, you'll need a PSU with the relevant connections, 2x 8 PIN. TDP under load is circa 200W, it'll peak at 225W under insane load.
Just read the spec on Novatech, ignore the minimum PSU spec. I'm running an i7 4770K on a 650W, these will run on a decent 500W just fine.
Voted hot OP, superb deal!
For those holding out on the next cards, rumour is they too will use HBM2 which I think ultimately will benefit existing HBM cards from a driver perspective. Also worth noting that this card is overkill for 1080P, really it stretches its legs at 1440P.
DX12:
DX11:
This Fury will sit in the middle of the Fury X and Nano benchs.
The_Hoff to ah_heng
19 Dec 164#6
I have a Fury. This is a steal.
The Fury sits between the 1060 and 1070 (more so 1070 side) and excels in DX12 and particularly Vulkan, DX11 also fine.
I run mine at 1440p with every game I own on Ultra with very few exceptions (Star Citizen, crap (no) optimisation), it makes minced meat of BF1, Doom, Squad, CIV.
There's no reason the card won't remain relevant for another 2/3 years as far as I'm concerned, with the HBM architecture you can largely ignore the 4GB VRAM, the bus is so broad.
Get it, now.
gupsterg
19 Dec 163#15
I'd be very surprised if you regret the purchase :smile: .
FreeSync is sweet and with AMD you've paid no premium for variable refresh rate tech! :smile: .
Cheers :smiley: , if you are thinking about getting a RX 480 I would take this card over that :wink: .
I went from a 290X which OC'd to 1100/1525 to Fury / X back in March 16 and luv it :smile: .
I had a Vapor-X 290X and have owned Tri-X 290 plus Asus DCUII 290X and Fury / X out of the box are cooler/quieter running cards :sunglasses: .
Here is 3DM FS Vapor-X 290X vs Fury X. The 290X has very heavily modified custom ROM, Fury X only voltage/clocks, same rig used but driver versions differ due to not having the cards at the same time.
All comments (107)
EportJake
19 Dec 164#1
If I didnt need to upgrade my PSU to take this I'd be buying it. Arrrrggghhh!
ssimonian
19 Dec 16#2
Despite its age, it is a great price for a great card. This drop makes me wonder if new AMD GPU's are about to go on sale though...
ah_heng
19 Dec 16#3
How's this compare to a 1060? Thanks...
harisonwright to ah_heng
19 Dec 161#5
Better, the fury can give a 1070 a run for its money in dx11
The_Hoff to ah_heng
19 Dec 164#6
I have a Fury. This is a steal.
The Fury sits between the 1060 and 1070 (more so 1070 side) and excels in DX12 and particularly Vulkan, DX11 also fine.
I run mine at 1440p with every game I own on Ultra with very few exceptions (Star Citizen, crap (no) optimisation), it makes minced meat of BF1, Doom, Squad, CIV.
There's no reason the card won't remain relevant for another 2/3 years as far as I'm concerned, with the HBM architecture you can largely ignore the 4GB VRAM, the bus is so broad.
Get it, now.
EportJake
19 Dec 161#4
Seems my PSU would take it.
Couple of questions:
What sort of improvement will I get over my 3gb 780?
Is 4gb RAM going to be sufficient in 2 years time?
I only game at 1080p at the moment. Thanks,
Jake.
The_Hoff to EportJake
19 Dec 164#7
Jake, most of your questions are answered in the post above, but your existing card really doesn't measure up to a Fury in any respect - David and Goliath.
If your PSU can take it there's nothing at that price that will touch it. I'm actually going to measure up and see if I can accommodate another...
Which brings me to my next point, make sure you can physically fit the card in your chassis, these cards are LONG.
If it's anything like my Sapphire, you'll need a PSU with the relevant connections, 2x 8 PIN. TDP under load is circa 200W, it'll peak at 225W under insane load.
Just read the spec on Novatech, ignore the minimum PSU spec. I'm running an i7 4770K on a 650W, these will run on a decent 500W just fine.
Voted hot OP, superb deal!
For those holding out on the next cards, rumour is they too will use HBM2 which I think ultimately will benefit existing HBM cards from a driver perspective. Also worth noting that this card is overkill for 1080P, really it stretches its legs at 1440P.
DX12:
DX11:
This Fury will sit in the middle of the Fury X and Nano benchs.
beastlyhax to EportJake
19 Dec 16#33
It should be significantly faster than a 780. By the way, you should really upgrade your ram to at least 8gb.
EportJake
19 Dec 162#8
After all the effort you went to in your post it seemed rude not to order. Now to sell my 780.
avandril
19 Dec 161#9
Hot!
Just bought myself a Christmas present:). This one will do until Vega release. My new monitor has Freesync so has to skip Nvidia.
Thank you!
The_Hoff
19 Dec 163#10
Sorry about that!
Merry Christmas... :smiley:
Billythebubble
19 Dec 16#11
That's impressive power and makes my aging R9 270 look slow. Nearly bought MSI 480 card during Black Friday and decided to hold out for new year sales.
Hot deal op!
londonstinks
19 Dec 16#12
Wow not far off a 1080 for 230 quid!!! Wonder if it's worth upgrading my 290?
The_Hoff to londonstinks
19 Dec 162#16
That's exactly the move I made:
-Fury runs a LOT cooler.
-Fury uses less power.
-Fury is significantly more powerful, particularly at 1440p.
You'll get a decent price for the 290 as they're still in good demand by eth miners. Check to see if you can flash it to a 290X before you sell it (if you decide to).
gupsterg
19 Dec 16#13
I would concur with the Hoff you don't need a huge PSU for these cards. In one of the rigs I have, I've ran a Fury X with an OC with 650W PSU.
I use mine @ 1440P and not found the 4GB restrictive, what happens in the future no idea. All games I set to the highest level in game menu. AA is about the only setting I will tweak depending on FPS I get for changes to it.
For example I have seen Lords of the fallen show VRAM usage of upto 6GB on an RX 480 8GB @ 1080P, I see 3.9GB at settings that video but 1440P resolution, I've had no stability issues or stutter or crashes to warrant me to think I need more VRAM :smiley: . Also be aware guys all monitoring software shows VRAM allocation not actual usage (some info in linked thread below).
The heatsink part of the cooler is exactly the same as a Fury Tri-X from what I have seen. I owned a Fury Tri-X at one point, with slight fan mod you can gain 55°C very easily. Even though the PCB on the XFX does not have an AMD stamp, which signifies reference PCB, the XFX uses reference PCB layout so you can stick a waterblock of a Fury/X on it (check out the EKWB configurator).
Anyone thinking of holding on tell Vega I reckon the card is still a valid purchase at this price :smiley: , represents great "bang for your £".
There is only talk of Vega release for 1H2017, which could be upto 6mths wait IMO and Vega is not gonna be cheap. I reckon if Vega performs at a level it is expected to, it will be priced "high end" levels, we only have to see past flagship cards from AMD like Fury X, 290X, etc to know it won't be vastly cheaper than nVidia high offering IMO.
Scouse234
19 Dec 162#14
cheers just picked one up :smile:
gupsterg
19 Dec 163#15
I'd be very surprised if you regret the purchase :smile: .
FreeSync is sweet and with AMD you've paid no premium for variable refresh rate tech! :smile: .
Cheers :smiley: , if you are thinking about getting a RX 480 I would take this card over that :wink: .
I went from a 290X which OC'd to 1100/1525 to Fury / X back in March 16 and luv it :smile: .
I had a Vapor-X 290X and have owned Tri-X 290 plus Asus DCUII 290X and Fury / X out of the box are cooler/quieter running cards :sunglasses: .
Here is 3DM FS Vapor-X 290X vs Fury X. The 290X has very heavily modified custom ROM, Fury X only voltage/clocks, same rig used but driver versions differ due to not having the cards at the same time.
donbarney
19 Dec 16#17
Good deal! no chance of this fitting in my pc case tho, And I would have thought some forthcoming games might struggle if you have settings on ultra as the 4GB wont be enough
The_Hoff to donbarney
19 Dec 16#23
As gupster said, comparing a HBM vs non-HBM card in the VRAM stakes really isn't relevant.
Memory interface width:
Fury: 4,096 bit
1060: 192 bit
1070: 256 bit
Completely different animal.
donbarney
19 Dec 16#18
4gb v ram doe
CampGareth
19 Dec 161#19
My 970 is beefy, it'll be near the top of those charts... somewhere... near... top... ah, halfway down with the Fury getting near double the performance. Yeah maybe it's time for an upgrade.
Billythebubble
19 Dec 16#20
Only 12 left with 4 sold in the last couple of hours
nice! looks like it does pretty good on a old ish game like that but lets see how it does in 1/2 years with the games that are forthcoming :smiley:
The_Hoff
19 Dec 161#24
Did you blink when you scrolled through the benchmarks I posted? Quit trolling and start reading. There's no reason to believe the Fury will be left behind more than the 1060 and 1070's of this world.
Actually if you look at AMD's track record, they support their products for much longer than NVidia do.
dcpp4
19 Dec 16#25
That's an insane find! Incredible card at that price
umirza85
19 Dec 16#26
Excuse my ignorance if this is a stupid question, is this a Fury card or Fury X? ...or are they one and the same?
I have a 280x in my second rig right now (in crossfire) and I hate it. I was looking to upgrade it to either a 1070 or 1080, would this be a better choice? just wondering if something will popup during boxing day sales.
thelagmonster to umirza85
19 Dec 161#27
You're quite right to point out that this is a Fury, not a Fury X as listed in the above benchmarks. However the difference is less than 10%, so won't change the numbers massively.
GAVINLEWISHUKD to umirza85
19 Dec 161#28
Its a Fury. The Fury X is the full chip. This is 7/8 of the chip.
Not expecting any significant drops from Nvidia on the 1070 or 1080 (as they don't need too). If you plan on playing at 4k this generation then you have to go 1080. If not sell the 280x's and grab a Fury. Will keep you going for a while until 4K gaming can be had at the third tier cards (usually good price point).
The_Hoff to umirza85
19 Dec 16#30
The Fury will sit between the Fury X and the Nano (as per comment under benchs).
Harryisme
19 Dec 16#29
I wonder if this is signs that the next gen Vega based GPU's are finally around the corner, though ruumours also suggest another dual GPU card is going to be released before then.
Confuzz
19 Dec 161#31
Thanks for the deal just bought one with paypal credit which means i dont pay any interest for 4 months i was going to get a 1070 but no good deals around even 2nd hand prices are to high this is so much better value 9 left in stock
rogersmore
19 Dec 16#32
Is this a significant upgrade over a sapphire rx 480 nitro+ oc? I have a 1440p monitor and with a bit of tweaking can run most titles at this resolution 60fps. Although it does run pretty hot and loud when pushed! Wondering if worth the hassle of selling to get this?
thelagmonster to rogersmore
19 Dec 16#34
Not worth it imo, unless you got a great price on your 480. I've got the same card (MSI version) and it's more than man enough.
robodan918
19 Dec 16#35
this card keeps on dropping
search XFX fury on hukd and you'll see it comes down 10 quid every month or so
I'm still holding out for RX490 & 500 series - even if the top is expensive, it'll make everything else less expensive
GAVINLEWISHUKD to robodan918
19 Dec 161#37
Its because they made a load of chips that haven't sold. As its seems its the Fury that is dropping in price they have many of these binned chips (fiji pro) about. What nobody could work out was that the refinement of the process never got any better with fiji. Then the Pro Duo appeared with all the best binned chips (high power). But what happend to all the refined low power binned chips that they were using in the nano? Well they were saving them up for the Instinct MI8.
I expect fiji has stopped production now.
n3m3s1s
19 Dec 16#36
Perfect timing - thanks OP - only 7 left now
TesseractOrion
19 Dec 16#38
AFAIK Yes, there will be no more cards produced so it might be best to get one now as once they're gone, they're gone!
No sign of any other than XFX Fury tho, strange? No Fury X on sale, or Pro Duo? Maybe all sold...
I don't think they have DVI-D connectors either so won't be much use with my Qnix OC monitor which has a single port :-(
slayermatt
19 Dec 16#39
I'm tempted. Don't "need" an upgrade, my 285 performs fine when I'm not hitting vram limits at 1080p but these are incredibly tempting - would love to just crank up the settings and forget about it! I would still be worried about my PSU though. 530 watt, but 5 years old and powering a bunch of drives, expansion cards (filled all my slots) and an i5 2500k at 4.5ghz... Just not worth it for me if I have to spend another £70 on a decent PSU!
Billythebubble
19 Dec 16#40
7 left in stock, playing roulette until the last one
hamzahuk
19 Dec 16#41
Went from a 380 to a fury, if only it had 8gb vram I would have bought another just for CF. Btw got my Fury for £180 of amazon, so even if I got another one for £240 that means I got a fury CF setup for £420 same as new 1070 :smile:
The_Hoff
19 Dec 16#42
Significant is subjective, but is it an upgrade? Sure is.
Take a look at the benchs for BF1 above across DX11/12 at 1440p, it's buying you 20-30FPS more approximately as an average, but importantly also buying you much more headroom at the lowest recorded frame rate, 15-20FPS more in some cases.
Really depends on what you term significant, but for me, that is significant. A £50-60 outlay once you sell your 480.
The_Hoff
19 Dec 16#43
I agree, if you need a PSU upgrade specifically for this card it diminishes the value where you could buy a more efficient Nvidia card and perhaps get away without.
bashi
19 Dec 16#44
Was about to order to upgrade my ageing gtx680, but my case wont fit it, the fury is too long to fit in my pc.
rogersmore
19 Dec 16#45
Thanks, I'm really tempted!
cactusjack86
19 Dec 16#46
Really tempted to swap out my msi 960 4gb for this. Could my 550w PSU hold out though, its relatively new? Could claw back £100 for my 960 so £140 doesn't seem too bad this close to Xmas!
hamzahuk
19 Dec 16#47
If its an 80 + one ofcource, Im running my XFX Fury overclocked on a 500w evga PSU with my I7 overclocked to 4.8ghz
Madstacks83
19 Dec 16#48
How would this card stack up against a gtx 1060 3gb for 1080p gaming on a freesync monitor?
hamzahuk
19 Dec 16#49
Miles ahead in terms of performance, in terms its the equevillent to the GTX 980ti, only with a little less vram but people say 4gb HBM = 6gb gddr5
digitalpawn1
19 Dec 16#50
Saw this a few days ago before I was listed here, been contemplating ever since.
Decided to go for it as I couldn't justify the cost of a 1070 for what I use my machine for, and by the time I sell my old card it's a cheap upgrade.
Superb deal if you have the case space for it.
n3m3s1s
19 Dec 16#51
Thanks OP - was going to order from Newegg then I saw this.
Have a Lenovo ThinkCentre Edge 73 10AS 002PUK i5-4430 (no dedicated graphics card ) with only has a 180w PSU ! Hoping it will cope with this card.
Could you recommend a suitable PSU upgrade / source Many thanks
The_Hoff
19 Dec 16#52
I'd suggest yes but if you can order some info on PSU brand and peripherals/your spec it would help.
lomax
19 Dec 16#53
Hot if you've got a psu that can power it. Older tech so the power requirements are much higher. TDP is 275W on this for reference the gtx 1060/1070/1080 are 120W/150W//180W. You could get this plus a nice new power supply less than the price of a new 1070 though :smiley:.
Hopefully amd come out with their new high end cards soon the market need competition.
Thanks guys, running i5-4690k o/c at 4ghz, Asus Pro-gamer mobo, 16gb ram, MSI 960 4gb, Corsair VS550w PSU.
Madstacks83
19 Dec 16#55
Cheers, ordered!
Billythebubble
19 Dec 16#56
Some good advice from everyone, so what monitor do you recommend to run this fury card?
AOC, ASUS, Benq please include 144hz etc because I want to upgrade both graphics card and monitor.
Sent back my IPS ASUS 23.8" and need a decent gaming monitor suitable to play simulation and bf1
Billythebubble
19 Dec 16#57
Only 4 left
Madstacks83
19 Dec 16#58
I went with this one, It was down to £214 but has gone upto £249.99 - but it dropped yesterday again and probably will drop again soon. Im hoping with this card it will make for an awesome 1080p gaming experience. Building my first PC - and until now have only played games on an xbox one - This should blow it out the water.
AOC 27 inch 144 Hz LED Gaming Monitor, 1 ms Response Time, Height Adjust, Display Port, HDMI, DVI, VGA, Speakers, Adaptive Sync Compatible G2770PF
The_Hoff
19 Dec 16#59
No problems at all wattage wise. Just make sure you have 2x 8-pin cables available.
For those unsure on PSU, any Corsair, EVGA, Seasonic, Super Flower, Cooler master or OEM should do the job, provided its 500w ish and importantly has 2x 8-pin connectors.
Please DO NOT buy adapters to make 6 pins in to 8, or molex in to 8-pin, you WILL burn your house down! The wire gauges are completely different.
The_Hoff
19 Dec 16#60
If anybody is after a Freesync 1080p 144Hz 1MS monitor, I have a 24" iiyama I used for 3 weeks. PM me
iiyama gb2488hsu-b2
Boxed and as new.
The_Hoff
19 Dec 16#61
Not quite.
TDP was measured by Techpower Up, 200W with typical gaming, 225W peak.
cactusjack86
19 Dec 16#62
Thanks for the advice, took the plunge! Just enough space in my case too.
gupsterg
19 Dec 16#63
Check this early Bit Tech review, when a Fury card is similar clocks to Fury X then it's very close performance between the 2.
I owned a Fury Tri-X at one point which unlocked to 3840SP and when I clocked it the same as a genuine Fury X I owned also, most benches it was hard to distinguish a difference, 3DM FS Fury 3840SP vs Fury X 4096SP.
gupsterg
19 Dec 16#64
1 left but price is now £254.99 :disappointed: , expiring deal .....
satchef1
19 Dec 16#65
I'm hoping for some decent deals on Nvidia cards after Christmas. Don't fancy risking this card on a 450W PSU with a Sandy Bridge i5.
hamzahuk
19 Dec 161#66
For £240 I knew when I saw this offer it would be gone withen hours. £240 for near £400 gtx 1070 performance STEAL
Fair enough on the TDP, I'll find the link later where they mention different values but on my phone at the moment. Always better to account for more than you need.
In terms on 8 pin/6 pin/molex and the adapter quandry. 8pin connectors are rated to 150W, 6pin to 75W, molex is also limited to 75W as far as I'm aware.
2x 8pin is 300W. 1x8pin and a 6pin/molex is 225W. By your own reference that means crashes and instability. 8pin have more strands to cope with the extra heat resulting from the increased voltage.
BTW, for anybody with a Fury, take a look at over and under volting, you can reduce the wattage significantly, or add more and overclock.
lomax
19 Dec 161#69
Thanks. Great info. Highest TDP I've had on a card has been 170w which is probably why I've gotten away with it thus far. I'll have to upgrade my aging psu eventually :smiley:.
ZainAkib
19 Dec 16#70
Should I go for this or make the jump to a 1070? Which will last longer?
Nate1492
19 Dec 16#71
For anyone expecting performance similar to a 1070 or a 1080, you will be thoroughly disappointed.
At 239.99, this card pulls even with the 1060 6gb. It is a good price, and if you have a FreeSync monitor and want the best 1080p can offer, this will do that. To pretend that this card walks with the 1070/1080 and is a recommended 1440p card, that's a stretch that will quickly be seen to be a smoke and mirrors. It'll handle 1440p, but with limitations and sacrifices.
Confuzz
19 Dec 16#72
Well said mate
neiiilers
19 Dec 16#73
Guys, I've read most of the comments.. is this still hot if I'm not upgrading? I'm building a new pc.
Hootwo
19 Dec 161#74
Hoff, wish there was a kudos button for you and your super helpful and knowledgable posts - thanks!
ZainAkib
19 Dec 16#75
OOS
Expired
elne
19 Dec 16#76
If only it had more fans then this deal would blow me away.
The_Hoff
19 Dec 16#77
No problem mate, glad it was informative to someone.
The_Hoff
19 Dec 16#78
FH3 is the one game I own where I actually elect to play it on my Xbox One over my PC. The game has been a complete mess, both in terms of bugs and crashes but also optimisation.
Great game, but awful on PC. Even 1070's will stutter like hell is you head to Surfer's Paradise.
BSM9
19 Dec 16#79
sold out now :disappointed:
The_Hoff
19 Dec 16#80
Seems my original post was deleted.
Your post is still BS. Post #7 shows the Fury is better than the 1060 and as an owner of a Fury, a 1440p 144hz monitor my experiences differ significantly from your obviously bias perception. My games including BF1 all run at max detail with no smoke/mirrors or sacrifice, you talk rubbish, over and over and over.
When have you ever owned a Fury, a 480 or any other card you comment on and spout rubbish?
Go and post on Nvidia threads where you may actually know something.
gupsterg
19 Dec 161#81
Anyone with buyers remorse see some of the data in this TPU review where the card is using a pretty recent driver (v16.10.1).
As I game at 1440P I have considered FPS upto that res only. Only Anno 2025 and Assassin's Creed: Syndicate, I consider out of the reviewed games where the Fury/X really would need some in game settings tweaked for me. Civilization VI I would deem sufficient FPS for settings used in review.
So consider the price of a GTX 1070 and also the premium for a G-Sync screen if you want variable refresh rate tech and this was a solid deal IMO :smile: .
The Fiji GPU still has a lot of potential IMO, recent DX12 patch for Division link.
Like I said before I've owned several 290/X with aftermarket air coolers, I debated about going custom water cooled on those cards but not on Fiji.I have owned 1x Fury Tri-X and 6x Fury X since about March 16, there are posts relating to this and my OC experience in owners club thread plus Fiji bios mod on OCN :smile: .
Anyone wishing to check if their purchased XFX Fury Triple Dissipation will unlock some cores post in this thread on OCN and I will be sure to help with that :wink: .
Anyone who finds voltage restricted for their overclocking / undervolting, etc post in Fiji bios mod on OCN, I can change HBM voltage via ROM and other things :smile: .
Nate1492
19 Dec 16#82
Absolutely will cost more to get a G-Sync+1070. But you will have a better experience, it just depends on what price you put on that experience.
And using your review numbers, these are the games that I would feel are sub-par at 1440p (less than 60 fps)
11 out of 16 games below 60 fps at 1440p? I mean, what is your definition of 'good at 1440p'?
ah_heng
19 Dec 16#83
Despite some bitching posts towards the end of this thread, really appreciate the info I've got from the wonderful experts in here! I didn't manage to pull the trigger at the end (although put the item on basket) simply because of considering whether to get a better GPU with an i5 processor or a "so so" GPU with an i7.
Since I'm looking for an all rounder gaming pc and an above average PC for photo and video editing, I chose to wait for a better deal on a "so so" GPU :smiley:
But, thanks for all the input in here! Much easier to read compare to other sites with a lot more technical stuff...
Nate1492
19 Dec 16#84
Again, with the hostility and rudeness, I think I know why your other post would have been deleted.
But only 5 out of the 16 games pull averages above 60 fps.
That's not good enough to call a card great at 1440p. It'll handle 1440p, but with limitations and sacrifices.
urbansmartsocial
19 Dec 16#85
wow, everyones opinion matters here pml.
thank you OP good price but had bad experiences with radeon cards
The_Hoff
19 Dec 161#86
You speak having had ZERO experience of any AMD card or freesync monitor Nate, that's why you have zero credibility in every AMD thread you show up in. You have no intention or interest in the 'deal' only to come and tell everybody they're wrong - your posts aren't even informative.
Having just checked the last two links you posted (40fps or less), let's talk about this one shall we?
Who was saying it was a great card at 1440p and it was better than a 1070 no one said that all that was said was its a good card for the price we arnt all made of money mate
Nate1492 to Confuzz
19 Dec 16#88
"The Hoff" has been talking about his max settings 1440p gaming experience, and pretending that I have 'no experience' without knowing either way.
I have *absolutely* stated this is a good card for 1080p gaming, it is a good price, especially if you have a FreeSync monitor or like games that favor the AMD brand.
But I also said, with no illusions, that this card cannot handle most current 1440p AAA titles. 11 out of 16 reviews for the Fury were below 60 fps. For many people, that's a dealbreaker. It is for me.
But Hoff just is blustering.
Let's talk about those last two links Hoff.
The 1070 and the 1080 both are above 45 FPS in both. The Fury is below that, in a range I consider unplayable.
Where do you recommend to buy or any advice greatly appreciated thanks
Confuzz
19 Dec 162#89
I hear what your saying you seem to have a bit of beef with this hoff guy. I think we should all just get on as it is the season of good will and all that. I personally think its to easy to get carried away with how good the graphics are i grew up playing a spectrum 48k which took about a day to load but i had just as much fun playing that as i do today its the game that gets you hooked not if it can play in 4k or not
Nate1492 to Confuzz
20 Dec 16#90
The dude attacks me no matter what, his opinion or be quiet is his attitude. I speak up about negatives when people are only talking positives, and Hoff goes off the deep end.
It's really not ok, any part of the year, it's offensive and rude and ill behaved, I think he takes his rage out on myself.
That being said, this is not the perfect card.
steluca5
20 Dec 16#91
Nate do yourself a favour and stop replying. You've said everything you wanted to say and I fully agree with you. It's good that you've made people aware of the limitations. You don't seem to have beef with anyone, you're just expressing your opinion and then being told you're wrong by a guy who doesn't know you from Adam. For all he knows you work at AMD.
Nice card for the price.
gupsterg
20 Dec 16#92
Every card has limitations :wink: . Yes it was a nice card for the price :smiley: .
Let's take the GTX 1070 deal posted today at £300. This card was 20% cheaper or that card was 25% more (% calculated on non CB price for Fury). Taking the TPU relative performance chart from MSI GTX 1070 Quick Silver OC it's lacking 24/18% performance @ 1080P, 21/14% @ 1440P. If you took the stock GTX 1070 % as Fury/X is not OC'd in those charts 20/14% performance @ 1080P, 16/9% @ 1440P.
Then if you equated FreeSync vs G-Sync monitor costing this was a far more economical deal :smiley: . I just think too many people on forums have pitchforks out for Fiji cards, when they are not that bad at all when bought on promo.
The_Hoff
21 Dec 16#94
Yes that's fine.
It appears to have 1x 8pin and 2x 6+2pin connectors. Order away, decent enough PSU.
The_Hoff
21 Dec 16#95
Post the last invoice of any AMD you've purchased.
In terms of the links you refer to, how do you explain the Fury doing better than the 1070?
Anybody can cherry pick links and titles to prove an invalid point. I play all of my games at full detail on my freesync monitor - 60fps stopped being critical the moment I got freesync because that's exactly what the technology is there to do.
Fury is perfect at 1440p.
Nate1492
22 Dec 16#96
There is no need to 'explain' it. It's a terribly coded game. Speaking of "Cherry Picking" I think that's what you are trying to do.
But when 11 out of 16 games don't hit 60 FPS, that isn't cherry picking, it's a statement of fact.
The Fury is *NOT* perfect at 1440p.
>60fps stopped being critical the moment I got freesync because that's exactly what the technology is there to do.
Are you crazy? Sub 60 fps in perfect "sync" is still laggy. That's ignoring that any drops below 40 fps, on most FreeSync monitors, drop the monitor out of Adaptive Sync.
So, if your average FPS is 45, you certainly drop below the adaptive sync range on many monitors.
The_Hoff
22 Dec 16#97
Ok Nate... who was it that highlighted said "terribly coded" game for trying to prove an invalid point? That'll be yourself. Lucky for you your beloved 1060 doesn't feature anywhere in there, it'd be dropped off of the bottom for the 1080P card it is.
It is indeed a statement that one review site using one configuration, one set of drivers testing them over X months and collating them in to a single bar chart, but it isn't "fact". It's an opinion, it's not science.
The Fury in my machine is absolutely perfect for 1440P, thanks. How does your Fury and first hand experience hold up?
The bottom end of the monitor freesync range doesn't even matter Nate, go read about LFC.
Now, run along and go play some 1080P games on your little 1060.
Nate1492 to The_Hoff
22 Dec 16#99
You are really going down this route, are you?
The Fury in your machine is not 'absolutely perfect' for 1440p. It suits *your needs*. Perfect is not subjective.
What, no response to the sub 40 fps issues with adaptive sync?
What do you think "First Hand Experience" exactly is? Would you call playing/watching on a card to be first hand experience? I would, personally, call that first hand experience, would you?
My experience is that the card falls down a bit when running 1440p for many games. Battlefield doesn't have this issue, but Witcher 3 and a ton of other high caliber games do! I wouldn't lie to someone and call a card "perfect" when it's demonstrably not perfect.
Bar graphs of statistical data points is not an opinion. That's insane talk.
They are repeatable, demonstrable, facts. Do they tell the entire story? No, there are more data points, but it is *absolutely* not an opinion. It's a piece of data collected and presented.
The mere suggestion that a chart representing data is an opinion is pretty far out there.
Let's try this again.
Sub 40 FPS on FreeSync Monitors results in Adaptive Sync issues for many models, including the model that was recently on HotukDeals.
Perfect? Not a chance.
n3m3s1s
22 Dec 16#98
Thanks very much for help/advice - appreciated
Confuzz to n3m3s1s
22 Dec 16#105
I got a Asus
Z170M-PLUS motherboard for £60 so im going down the intel path for now i just dont know if i can wait for ryzen and no one really knows what impact it will have just yet hopefully it will force intel to lower its prices but prob be to late for me i can get a secound hand I5 6600k from uk.m.webuy.com/search for £150 but 2nd hand is always a risk. Im just going to wait to see how much the i5 7700k is. Do you know if new gen chips sell out quick or are higher on release day than say a month later. This is my build so far got a few bits free of friends and some deals of amazon warehouse and the mobo fans and cooler are secound hand https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/YhCYRG
The_Hoff
22 Dec 16#100
Citing one website and one set of reviews collated over MONTHS using different hardware, drivers and configuration, including pre/post game patches doesn't make something scientifically accurate. Unless all cards are tested on the same rig on the same day it's merely indicative.
I've already stated that FH3 being the ropey title it is on PC needed some tinkering to keep it smooth (but that's also the case on 1070's). Otherwise, yes, everything I play runs perfectly at 1440p. There are always titles developed and backed by Nvidia/AMD that will favour one or the other, but however you cut it, 1440p on a Fury is the target which it hits happily.
Let's see what the buyers of this card say once they have it setup shall we?
Confuzz
22 Dec 16#101
Wish i realised this card only has hdmi 1.4 wtf so i need to get an adapter for my 4k tv to run it at 4k 60fps anyone know of anygood ones
The_Hoff
22 Dec 16#102
You just need to make sure it's an active adapter.
Some will do 30hz (cheaper), others like the C3D will do 60hz.
Confuzz
22 Dec 16#103
Ok thanks will look at those i belive hdmi 1.4 will do 4k at 30hz so its a 60hz im after
just the cpu to get for my first build now im just debating if to get the new gen of intel on jan 5th or get the last gen for cheaper will have to wait to see what the prices are like when they come out soon
The_Hoff
22 Dec 16#104
Don't do anything until Ryzen is launched, that will have a significant impact on prices and you may choose to go down the AMD route. 2017 is going to be a very big year for AMD!
Q1 2017 they land, so you don't need to wait for too long. Little point being committed to Intel for the sake of a £60 board, especially if moving to AMD gets you the same or better performance for a larger saving, but just my opinion.
Personally I wouldn't buy any K model CPU second hand without some sort of warranty or knowing the person, but that's just me. Less of an issue for non-K models of course.
I'm still running along on a 4770K CPU which shows no sign of giving in, but that may change if AMD offer me a big step up for significantly less than a 6900K would cost me! I think they will deliver.
I haven't had an AMD CPU since my Athlon64 T-Bird... overclocked with a HB pencil!
(Oh, and good choice on the mouse - snap!)
Confuzz
22 Dec 16#107
Thanks for all the input snd information its very usefull for me guess i could always sell the motherboard if need be should be a very interesting few months
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GPU clock: 1000MHz, 3584 stream processors.
RAM clock (HBM): 500MHz (effective speed 1000MHz)
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If your PSU can take it there's nothing at that price that will touch it. I'm actually going to measure up and see if I can accommodate another...
Which brings me to my next point, make sure you can physically fit the card in your chassis, these cards are LONG.
If it's anything like my Sapphire, you'll need a PSU with the relevant connections, 2x 8 PIN. TDP under load is circa 200W, it'll peak at 225W under insane load.
Just read the spec on Novatech, ignore the minimum PSU spec. I'm running an i7 4770K on a 650W, these will run on a decent 500W just fine.
Voted hot OP, superb deal!
For those holding out on the next cards, rumour is they too will use HBM2 which I think ultimately will benefit existing HBM cards from a driver perspective. Also worth noting that this card is overkill for 1080P, really it stretches its legs at 1440P.
DX12:
DX11:
This Fury will sit in the middle of the Fury X and Nano benchs.
The Fury sits between the 1060 and 1070 (more so 1070 side) and excels in DX12 and particularly Vulkan, DX11 also fine.
I run mine at 1440p with every game I own on Ultra with very few exceptions (Star Citizen, crap (no) optimisation), it makes minced meat of BF1, Doom, Squad, CIV.
There's no reason the card won't remain relevant for another 2/3 years as far as I'm concerned, with the HBM architecture you can largely ignore the 4GB VRAM, the bus is so broad.
Get it, now.
FreeSync is sweet and with AMD you've paid no premium for variable refresh rate tech! :smile: .
Cheers :smiley: , if you are thinking about getting a RX 480 I would take this card over that :wink: .
I went from a 290X which OC'd to 1100/1525 to Fury / X back in March 16 and luv it :smile: .
I had a Vapor-X 290X and have owned Tri-X 290 plus Asus DCUII 290X and Fury / X out of the box are cooler/quieter running cards :sunglasses: .
Here is 3DM FS Vapor-X 290X vs Fury X. The 290X has very heavily modified custom ROM, Fury X only voltage/clocks, same rig used but driver versions differ due to not having the cards at the same time.
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The Fury sits between the 1060 and 1070 (more so 1070 side) and excels in DX12 and particularly Vulkan, DX11 also fine.
I run mine at 1440p with every game I own on Ultra with very few exceptions (Star Citizen, crap (no) optimisation), it makes minced meat of BF1, Doom, Squad, CIV.
There's no reason the card won't remain relevant for another 2/3 years as far as I'm concerned, with the HBM architecture you can largely ignore the 4GB VRAM, the bus is so broad.
Get it, now.
Couple of questions:
What sort of improvement will I get over my 3gb 780?
Is 4gb RAM going to be sufficient in 2 years time?
I only game at 1080p at the moment. Thanks,
Jake.
If your PSU can take it there's nothing at that price that will touch it. I'm actually going to measure up and see if I can accommodate another...
Which brings me to my next point, make sure you can physically fit the card in your chassis, these cards are LONG.
If it's anything like my Sapphire, you'll need a PSU with the relevant connections, 2x 8 PIN. TDP under load is circa 200W, it'll peak at 225W under insane load.
Just read the spec on Novatech, ignore the minimum PSU spec. I'm running an i7 4770K on a 650W, these will run on a decent 500W just fine.
Voted hot OP, superb deal!
For those holding out on the next cards, rumour is they too will use HBM2 which I think ultimately will benefit existing HBM cards from a driver perspective. Also worth noting that this card is overkill for 1080P, really it stretches its legs at 1440P.
DX12:
DX11:
This Fury will sit in the middle of the Fury X and Nano benchs.
Just bought myself a Christmas present:). This one will do until Vega release. My new monitor has Freesync so has to skip Nvidia.
Thank you!
Merry Christmas... :smiley:
Hot deal op!
-Fury runs a LOT cooler.
-Fury uses less power.
-Fury is significantly more powerful, particularly at 1440p.
You'll get a decent price for the 290 as they're still in good demand by eth miners. Check to see if you can flash it to a 290X before you sell it (if you decide to).
I use mine @ 1440P and not found the 4GB restrictive, what happens in the future no idea. All games I set to the highest level in game menu. AA is about the only setting I will tweak depending on FPS I get for changes to it.
For example I have seen Lords of the fallen show VRAM usage of upto 6GB on an RX 480 8GB @ 1080P, I see 3.9GB at settings that video but 1440P resolution, I've had no stability issues or stutter or crashes to warrant me to think I need more VRAM :smiley: . Also be aware guys all monitoring software shows VRAM allocation not actual usage (some info in linked thread below).
The heatsink part of the cooler is exactly the same as a Fury Tri-X from what I have seen. I owned a Fury Tri-X at one point, with slight fan mod you can gain 55°C very easily. Even though the PCB on the XFX does not have an AMD stamp, which signifies reference PCB, the XFX uses reference PCB layout so you can stick a waterblock of a Fury/X on it (check out the EKWB configurator).
I posted some other stuff in another Fury deal thread as well plus my Fiji bios mod thread on OCN:man: .
Anyone thinking of holding on tell Vega I reckon the card is still a valid purchase at this price :smiley: , represents great "bang for your £".
There is only talk of Vega release for 1H2017, which could be upto 6mths wait IMO and Vega is not gonna be cheap. I reckon if Vega performs at a level it is expected to, it will be priced "high end" levels, we only have to see past flagship cards from AMD like Fury X, 290X, etc to know it won't be vastly cheaper than nVidia high offering IMO.
FreeSync is sweet and with AMD you've paid no premium for variable refresh rate tech! :smile: .
Cheers :smiley: , if you are thinking about getting a RX 480 I would take this card over that :wink: .
I went from a 290X which OC'd to 1100/1525 to Fury / X back in March 16 and luv it :smile: .
I had a Vapor-X 290X and have owned Tri-X 290 plus Asus DCUII 290X and Fury / X out of the box are cooler/quieter running cards :sunglasses: .
Here is 3DM FS Vapor-X 290X vs Fury X. The 290X has very heavily modified custom ROM, Fury X only voltage/clocks, same rig used but driver versions differ due to not having the cards at the same time.
Memory interface width:
Fury: 4,096 bit
1060: 192 bit
1070: 256 bit
Completely different animal.
Actually if you look at AMD's track record, they support their products for much longer than NVidia do.
I have a 280x in my second rig right now (in crossfire) and I hate it. I was looking to upgrade it to either a 1070 or 1080, would this be a better choice? just wondering if something will popup during boxing day sales.
Not expecting any significant drops from Nvidia on the 1070 or 1080 (as they don't need too). If you plan on playing at 4k this generation then you have to go 1080. If not sell the 280x's and grab a Fury. Will keep you going for a while until 4K gaming can be had at the third tier cards (usually good price point).
search XFX fury on hukd and you'll see it comes down 10 quid every month or so
I'm still holding out for RX490 & 500 series - even if the top is expensive, it'll make everything else less expensive
I expect fiji has stopped production now.
No sign of any other than XFX Fury tho, strange? No Fury X on sale, or Pro Duo? Maybe all sold...
I don't think they have DVI-D connectors either so won't be much use with my Qnix OC monitor which has a single port :-(
Take a look at the benchs for BF1 above across DX11/12 at 1440p, it's buying you 20-30FPS more approximately as an average, but importantly also buying you much more headroom at the lowest recorded frame rate, 15-20FPS more in some cases.
Really depends on what you term significant, but for me, that is significant. A £50-60 outlay once you sell your 480.
Decided to go for it as I couldn't justify the cost of a 1070 for what I use my machine for, and by the time I sell my old card it's a cheap upgrade.
Superb deal if you have the case space for it.
Have a Lenovo ThinkCentre Edge 73 10AS 002PUK i5-4430 (no dedicated graphics card ) with only has a 180w PSU ! Hoping it will cope with this card.
Could you recommend a suitable PSU upgrade / source Many thanks
Hopefully amd come out with their new high end cards soon the market need competition.
edit: You may also want to check if you need a new case this card is massive:
http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/products/amd-radeon-r9-300-series/amd-radeon-r9-fury-triple-dissipation-r9-fury-4tf9
Card Dimension (cm) : 31.5 x 11.2 x 5.1
AOC, ASUS, Benq please include 144hz etc because I want to upgrade both graphics card and monitor.
Sent back my IPS ASUS 23.8" and need a decent gaming monitor suitable to play simulation and bf1
AOC 27 inch 144 Hz LED Gaming Monitor, 1 ms Response Time, Height Adjust, Display Port, HDMI, DVI, VGA, Speakers, Adaptive Sync Compatible G2770PF
For those unsure on PSU, any Corsair, EVGA, Seasonic, Super Flower, Cooler master or OEM should do the job, provided its 500w ish and importantly has 2x 8-pin connectors.
Please DO NOT buy adapters to make 6 pins in to 8, or molex in to 8-pin, you WILL burn your house down! The wire gauges are completely different.
iiyama gb2488hsu-b2
Boxed and as new.
TDP was measured by Techpower Up, 200W with typical gaming, 225W peak.
I owned a Fury Tri-X at one point which unlocked to 3840SP and when I clocked it the same as a genuine Fury X I owned also, most benches it was hard to distinguish a difference, 3DM FS Fury 3840SP vs Fury X 4096SP.
The product page states 750w minimum. Granted you can usually get away with less than the recommended as they inflate them just to be sure.
Also I've been using the power adapters that come free with graphics cards for years without issue. I can't see how most manufacturers would include them if they weren't safe?
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/R9_Fury_Tri-X_OC/28.html
From this one were the max was 270w and the typical gaming test was only done at 1080p?
On a side note techpowerup has a nice graph to show a basic performance comparison between cards on their db page:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2677/radeon-r9-fury-x
In terms on 8 pin/6 pin/molex and the adapter quandry. 8pin connectors are rated to 150W, 6pin to 75W, molex is also limited to 75W as far as I'm aware.
2x 8pin is 300W. 1x8pin and a 6pin/molex is 225W. By your own reference that means crashes and instability. 8pin have more strands to cope with the extra heat resulting from the increased voltage.
BTW, for anybody with a Fury, take a look at over and under volting, you can reduce the wattage significantly, or add more and overclock.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1080_Amp_Extreme/29.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2677/radeon-r9-fury-x
This card performs ahead of the 1060 0-8% at stock (depending on metrics), but the Fury cards have a much lower Overclock headroom.
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/xfx_r9_fury/3.htm
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/R9_Fury_Strix/34.html
The Fury has restricted voltages and the HBM doesn't overclock well at all. The 1060 fairs a lot better in OC.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_1060_STRIX_OC/29.html
At 239.99, this card pulls even with the 1060 6gb. It is a good price, and if you have a FreeSync monitor and want the best 1080p can offer, this will do that. To pretend that this card walks with the 1070/1080 and is a recommended 1440p card, that's a stretch that will quickly be seen to be a smoke and mirrors. It'll handle 1440p, but with limitations and sacrifices.
Expired
Great game, but awful on PC. Even 1070's will stutter like hell is you head to Surfer's Paradise.
Your post is still BS. Post #7 shows the Fury is better than the 1060 and as an owner of a Fury, a 1440p 144hz monitor my experiences differ significantly from your obviously bias perception. My games including BF1 all run at max detail with no smoke/mirrors or sacrifice, you talk rubbish, over and over and over.
When have you ever owned a Fury, a 480 or any other card you comment on and spout rubbish?
Go and post on Nvidia threads where you may actually know something.
As I game at 1440P I have considered FPS upto that res only. Only Anno 2025 and Assassin's Creed: Syndicate, I consider out of the reviewed games where the Fury/X really would need some in game settings tweaked for me. Civilization VI I would deem sufficient FPS for settings used in review.
So consider the price of a GTX 1070 and also the premium for a G-Sync screen if you want variable refresh rate tech and this was a solid deal IMO :smile: .
The Fiji GPU still has a lot of potential IMO, recent DX12 patch for Division link.
Like I said before I've owned several 290/X with aftermarket air coolers, I debated about going custom water cooled on those cards but not on Fiji.I have owned 1x Fury Tri-X and 6x Fury X since about March 16, there are posts relating to this and my OC experience in owners club thread plus Fiji bios mod on OCN :smile: .
Anyone wishing to check if their purchased XFX Fury Triple Dissipation will unlock some cores post in this thread on OCN and I will be sure to help with that :wink: .
Anyone who finds voltage restricted for their overclocking / undervolting, etc post in Fiji bios mod on OCN, I can change HBM voltage via ROM and other things :smile: .
And using your review numbers, these are the games that I would feel are sub-par at 1440p (less than 60 fps)
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1080_Amp_Extreme/6.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1080_Amp_Extreme/10.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1080_Amp_Extreme/11.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1080_Amp_Extreme/16.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1080_Amp_Extreme/20.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1080_Amp_Extreme/21.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1080_Amp_Extreme/23.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1080_Amp_Extreme/25.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1080_Amp_Extreme/26.html
And these are nearly unplayable (40fps or less average)
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1080_Amp_Extreme/7.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1080_Amp_Extreme/12.html
11 out of 16 games below 60 fps at 1440p? I mean, what is your definition of 'good at 1440p'?
Since I'm looking for an all rounder gaming pc and an above average PC for photo and video editing, I chose to wait for a better deal on a "so so" GPU :smiley:
But, thanks for all the input in here! Much easier to read compare to other sites with a lot more technical stuff...
BF1 plays well on the Fury.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1080_Amp_Extreme/8.html
But only 5 out of the 16 games pull averages above 60 fps.
That's not good enough to call a card great at 1440p. It'll handle 1440p, but with limitations and sacrifices.
thank you OP good price but had bad experiences with radeon cards
Having just checked the last two links you posted (40fps or less), let's talk about this one shall we?
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1080_Amp_Extreme/12.html
What comments might you have?
I have *absolutely* stated this is a good card for 1080p gaming, it is a good price, especially if you have a FreeSync monitor or like games that favor the AMD brand.
But I also said, with no illusions, that this card cannot handle most current 1440p AAA titles. 11 out of 16 reviews for the Fury were below 60 fps. For many people, that's a dealbreaker. It is for me.
But Hoff just is blustering.
Let's talk about those last two links Hoff.
The 1070 and the 1080 both are above 45 FPS in both. The Fury is below that, in a range I consider unplayable.
What more?
Or would The XFX XT Series reliable 80+ Bronze be better.
Where do you recommend to buy or any advice greatly appreciated thanks
It's really not ok, any part of the year, it's offensive and rude and ill behaved, I think he takes his rage out on myself.
That being said, this is not the perfect card.
Nice card for the price.
Let's take the GTX 1070 deal posted today at £300. This card was 20% cheaper or that card was 25% more (% calculated on non CB price for Fury). Taking the TPU relative performance chart from MSI GTX 1070 Quick Silver OC it's lacking 24/18% performance @ 1080P, 21/14% @ 1440P. If you took the stock GTX 1070 % as Fury/X is not OC'd in those charts 20/14% performance @ 1080P, 16/9% @ 1440P.
Then if you equated FreeSync vs G-Sync monitor costing this was a far more economical deal :smiley: . I just think too many people on forums have pitchforks out for Fiji cards, when they are not that bad at all when bought on promo.
It appears to have 1x 8pin and 2x 6+2pin connectors. Order away, decent enough PSU.
In terms of the links you refer to, how do you explain the Fury doing better than the 1070?
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1080_Amp_Extreme/12.html
Anybody can cherry pick links and titles to prove an invalid point. I play all of my games at full detail on my freesync monitor - 60fps stopped being critical the moment I got freesync because that's exactly what the technology is there to do.
Fury is perfect at 1440p.
But when 11 out of 16 games don't hit 60 FPS, that isn't cherry picking, it's a statement of fact.
The Fury is *NOT* perfect at 1440p.
>60fps stopped being critical the moment I got freesync because that's exactly what the technology is there to do.
Are you crazy? Sub 60 fps in perfect "sync" is still laggy. That's ignoring that any drops below 40 fps, on most FreeSync monitors, drop the monitor out of Adaptive Sync.
So, if your average FPS is 45, you certainly drop below the adaptive sync range on many monitors.
It is indeed a statement that one review site using one configuration, one set of drivers testing them over X months and collating them in to a single bar chart, but it isn't "fact". It's an opinion, it's not science.
The Fury in my machine is absolutely perfect for 1440P, thanks. How does your Fury and first hand experience hold up?
The bottom end of the monitor freesync range doesn't even matter Nate, go read about LFC.
Now, run along and go play some 1080P games on your little 1060.
The Fury in your machine is not 'absolutely perfect' for 1440p. It suits *your needs*. Perfect is not subjective.
What, no response to the sub 40 fps issues with adaptive sync?
What do you think "First Hand Experience" exactly is? Would you call playing/watching on a card to be first hand experience? I would, personally, call that first hand experience, would you?
My experience is that the card falls down a bit when running 1440p for many games. Battlefield doesn't have this issue, but Witcher 3 and a ton of other high caliber games do! I wouldn't lie to someone and call a card "perfect" when it's demonstrably not perfect.
Bar graphs of statistical data points is not an opinion. That's insane talk.
They are repeatable, demonstrable, facts. Do they tell the entire story? No, there are more data points, but it is *absolutely* not an opinion. It's a piece of data collected and presented.
The mere suggestion that a chart representing data is an opinion is pretty far out there.
Let's try this again.
Sub 40 FPS on FreeSync Monitors results in Adaptive Sync issues for many models, including the model that was recently on HotukDeals.
Perfect? Not a chance.
Z170M-PLUS motherboard for £60 so im going down the intel path for now i just dont know if i can wait for ryzen and no one really knows what impact it will have just yet hopefully it will force intel to lower its prices but prob be to late for me i can get a secound hand I5 6600k from uk.m.webuy.com/search for £150 but 2nd hand is always a risk. Im just going to wait to see how much the i5 7700k is. Do you know if new gen chips sell out quick or are higher on release day than say a month later. This is my build so far got a few bits free of friends and some deals of amazon warehouse and the mobo fans and cooler are secound hand https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/YhCYRG
I've already stated that FH3 being the ropey title it is on PC needed some tinkering to keep it smooth (but that's also the case on 1070's). Otherwise, yes, everything I play runs perfectly at 1440p. There are always titles developed and backed by Nvidia/AMD that will favour one or the other, but however you cut it, 1440p on a Fury is the target which it hits happily.
Let's see what the buyers of this card say once they have it setup shall we?
Here's a few, do some research:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=displayport+to+hdmi+4k+active&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Adisplayport+to+hdmi+4k+active
The most popular choice is this one from a forum perspective:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Adapters/Club3D-Displayport-1-2-HDMI-Active-Adapter-CAC-1070/B017BQ8I54/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482428648&sr=8-1&keywords=cac-1070
Some will do 30hz (cheaper), others like the C3D will do 60hz.
just the cpu to get for my first build now im just debating if to get the new gen of intel on jan 5th or get the last gen for cheaper will have to wait to see what the prices are like when they come out soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZAchb7Ek9M
Personally I wouldn't buy any K model CPU second hand without some sort of warranty or knowing the person, but that's just me. Less of an issue for non-K models of course.
I'm still running along on a 4770K CPU which shows no sign of giving in, but that may change if AMD offer me a big step up for significantly less than a 6900K would cost me! I think they will deliver.
I haven't had an AMD CPU since my Athlon64 T-Bird... overclocked with a HB pencil!
(Oh, and good choice on the mouse - snap!)