'British General' brand - so quite reasonable. In Screwfix it is near to this price for one c**ppy LAP one. It is also £19.99 for one of these in Screwfix with the BG brand.
Probably not as cheap as eBay. But would trust something like this from there anyhows, as you don't know what your getting.
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oliverhussick
20 Dec 1611#3
BG isn't much of a cut above the cheap Chinese Ebay tat, I'm afraid. Certainly not British...... Buy MK if you want decent reliable quality and some assurance around safety.
FatalSaviour
20 Dec 164#11
In fairness, I have just replaced a whole collection of British General sockets with LAP equivalents. The LAP sockets are slightly better in terms of finish and positive switching action, but the British General ones were truly awful to begin with, and certainly not a benchmark of quality (look to MK if you want that!)
'Size H8.6, W14.6, D3.5cm.'..would suggest a 35mm (at least) box.
And yet
states, fits 25mm box...?
JohnBoy73 to gazdoubleu
21 Dec 161#23
I'm gonna click and collect so don't mind how it's packaged.
oliverhussick
20 Dec 1611#3
BG isn't much of a cut above the cheap Chinese Ebay tat, I'm afraid. Certainly not British...... Buy MK if you want decent reliable quality and some assurance around safety.
larry27 to oliverhussick
21 Dec 161#33
Are MK products British anymore?
worthinger
20 Dec 16#4
Says "Masterplug" in blurb Argos page - are BG and Masterplug one and the same?
watson44 to worthinger
21 Dec 162#15
BG is a registered trademark and member of the Luceco plc group of companies.
Luceco plc Group
Masterplug is a member of the Luceco plc group of companies, also including:
Luceco - energy saving LED lighting
Masterplug - portable power products
Ross - Home Entertainment Accessories
Wouldn't agree the LAP brand is crap either to be fair' I think you'll find the quality between the different brands are very similar if not equal.
Heat added though decent price :smiley:
nilzza to pennyfarthing88
21 Dec 161#44
Picked up 2 for £10 (LAP brand) a couple of weeks ago at screwfix, work great.
worthinger
20 Dec 16#7
Those dimensions measure depth from front plate.
MrWani
20 Dec 16#8
I paid my electrician £35 each for these in March been looking for some to replace one I managed to melt. Not the sockets fault, it was a cheap Chinese travel adapter. Thanks op
FatalSaviour to MrWani
20 Dec 161#12
Was that including fitting?
MrWani
20 Dec 16#9
Picture 3 shows they are low profile as the the other poster stated the dimensions will be from the front of the plate or switch not the size of the backbox
andynicol
20 Dec 16#10
Would explain why the picture states fits 25mm box then.
Even so, wherever possibly I'd always use a 35mm box for a socket outlet, 25mm can more often than not be tight for 2 (or 3) sets of cables.
FatalSaviour
20 Dec 164#11
In fairness, I have just replaced a whole collection of British General sockets with LAP equivalents. The LAP sockets are slightly better in terms of finish and positive switching action, but the British General ones were truly awful to begin with, and certainly not a benchmark of quality (look to MK if you want that!)
jasee
20 Dec 163#13
Although I`ve fitted many ordinary sockets with MKs, I just don`t think it`s worth disturbing the wiring to fit an unknown brand
Rich44
21 Dec 16#14
Nothing wrong with LAP had plenty of their stuff & not a single problem or fault
sradmad
21 Dec 16#16
good find op, heat added
morpheus
21 Dec 16#17
Great price, hot from me.
Scorpion
21 Dec 16#18
Can anyone recommend a brand of switches/sockets that do a brushed steel finish that are of decent quality? I'd happily pay a little more for greater quality.
takethatfan1978 to Scorpion
21 Dec 16#39
I have just replaced all sockets/switches downstairs including kitchen using these from wickes.
Very please with them so far and they look good too
Anyone recommended any which do QC/Fast charging - at least 2 A per USB socket rather than 2.1A shared?
veni_vidi_emere to donerkebab
21 Dec 16#30
it's not only shared one should think twice , standards in devices charging are changing. So 2.1A per socket soon will be obsolete. And thinking 10 years ahead only, one probably end up with nice looking plate, but charging will only be good for some old devices or cheap (let's say Chinese) ones that still use old technology with subpar performing devices.
Besford
21 Dec 163#20
USB outlets are always on. Be aware and consider implications before fitting.
pennyfarthing88 to Besford
21 Dec 16#50
What implications are those?
jizzer
21 Dec 16#21
I have fitted in 25mm box ring main if your neat with wiring OK .... but 35mm better if not retro fitting
I'm a big fan of his. No wait, that's not right. I watch his videos every now again and don't care about him personally one bit.
He does tend to buy a lot of ebay crap.. would be nice if he tested more proper items
noahsdad
21 Dec 161#25
Useful product at moment this type of thing, but the thing with this is USB will be quickly outdated and replaced.
DAZZ2000 to noahsdad
21 Dec 162#65
Not really mate; playing devils advocate here but USB as in the type A connection has been around since the mid nineties - and most of us use USB chargers that still rely on it. Case in point being the Apple Magsafe chargers (iPad) and a number of Samsung phones / tablets.
I charge all of my Mobile devices via a mains and USB socket with the type A and not had any bother. I don't see why I'm going to run into issues in at least another 5 years if the last 20 or so have been no bother?.
midiman
21 Dec 16#26
Best price I've seen for these. Bonus that they are 25mm. Finally bit and bought
AzeemB
21 Dec 161#27
don't think British General is any good and with USB chargers I would be a little hesitant in purchasing a budget price item.
(My local electrical store stopped supplying British General stuff)
Evouk
21 Dec 161#28
Used LAP sockets and their LED light bulbs with no issues at all. Still think these are a waste of time and how would you explain to your phone/tablet manufacturer if this caused your device to malfunction as most will question this now as technically you should only use genuine chargers supplied or approved by the manufacture.
I had these fitted in my kitchen recently, they are rubbish. Had two single isolation switches with exactly the same fault, basically they'll switch on but not switch off (despite the switch being in the off position), no good for my under-cupboard lighting. Also one of the two-gang mains sockets (without USB), the left plug socket, you just couldn't put a plug in anymore, it just wouldn't go in. The other sockets in the kitchen seem ok so far, but they don't really get used very much. Three failures in three months is very bad. The only positive is that they look quite nice, but they are cheap Chinese rubbish (or at least it seems like they are). Mine were branded BG (look identical to the above), but to be fair the company I bought them from on Ebay didn't quibble when it came to replacing the faulty ones.
oliverhussick
21 Dec 162#34
No, BUT they are "premium" and pricy, and you get what you pay for. I know I'd trust them to maintain at least some minimum standards like "the good old days" at the expense of high costs vs the budget brands working to a price at the expense of quality. :wink:
dmm1000
21 Dec 16#36
As I mentioned before - avoid screwfix and if you want proper quality sockets that deliver the stated power via USB go for the powerknight brand from 7dayshop - have 6 or 7 in the house they are excellent ! ..... a wee bit pricey but you wont need to return these Powerknight from 7dayshop
oliverhussick to dmm1000
21 Dec 16#47
If this isn't spam I don't know what is!
gilroyneil
21 Dec 16#37
Haven't installed this particular one but the ones I bought in Screwfix all said a 25mm (shallow) box is OK but that wasn't true and I ended up having to buy a 10mm spacer. Luckily it doesn't look too bad in my white kitchen but it could look awful elsewhere.
morpheus
21 Dec 16#38
What's so wrong with ScrewFix?
The implications being what exactly?
morpheus
21 Dec 16#40
30% more expensive than the OP for half the product (i.e. a single pack rather than twin pack...... I had a feeling recently that Wickes had gone expensive and this proves it to me.
takethatfan1978
21 Dec 16#41
I was replying to someone who had asked about Other brushed steel ones. When I bought them they were all on a different offer, I also prefer that they are screwless.
dmm1000
21 Dec 16#42
I bought several of their sockets a year ago - a good test is the Raspberry Pi2 - there were colored boxes constantly on show (they appear when not enough currrent is provided to the device ) - with the Powerknights - not a problem with any of them - returned the screwfix ones - I read on a forum that the screwfix models werent providing even half the stated output - I dont have the link to hand but it is out there .....
Borninthe80s
21 Dec 16#43
I've recently renewed all my switches and sockets with this same brand, not had a problem with them and seem very good quality for the price . The matching sockets and switches are very cheap on electrical showroom website, plus free delivery.
Leftfield_2k2
21 Dec 161#46
That have a go DIY'ers trying to cram these into insufficiently seized back boxs can very easily break their ring final and then have a 2.5mm heating element running around their house waiting to burn it down when enough current is demanded !!
jeffjack
21 Dec 16#48
why don't the USB plugs have a switch!?!?!?
gap30
21 Dec 161#49
I am 20 years NICEIC approved contractor and owner of an electrical contracting company
Some of the comments are a joke
BG are fine
MK are overpriced and not that premium these days
Schneider are the best of the best (pro tip)
LAP are amazing....
a_user to gap30
21 Dec 162#51
You might be an approved contractor, but the BG ones (that I have) are crap, I definitely wouldn't buy them again. Even with the working ones I have, the switch action feels anything other than positive and doesn't inspire any confidence, especially after the failures in three of the units I have (2x isolation switch and 1x dual gang). One of the sockets in the 2 gang unit just won't accept plugs anymore, just won't go in.
oliverhussick to gap30
21 Dec 16#58
Schneider who own MK? :P
gap30
21 Dec 161#52
Well you may be unlucky but always buy your parts from somewhere reputable in case you have to return it
I have fitted a lot of BG and never had any issues
lisa_jones
21 Dec 16#53
obsydian
21 Dec 16#54
LAP is good I bought one to try from Screwfix for £17 very please and quality
obsydian
21 Dec 16#55
LAP ones were 3.1A also
sawsa
21 Dec 162#56
I would not touch these with a barge pole. Would only install the MK ones and they are very expensive. Read up on these, it's not worth the risk.
josephallen
21 Dec 16#57
I'm amazed people are prepared to pay so much for metal plug sockets when plastic ones can be had for pennies.
mrew42 to josephallen
22 Dec 162#70
Maybe because they don't want this effect?
Personally i'd rather pay more
redmamoth to josephallen
22 Dec 16#76
Erm... maybe because they look better?
oliverhussick
21 Dec 161#59
Have you tried checking if that socket has gotten married? I believe that's a common problem.....
Derek_Duval
21 Dec 162#61
Premium? Are you aware of the recalls on their consumer units, RCBO's and 100A switch disconnectors due to fire risk?
gap30
21 Dec 161#62
I know, we need MK for all the posh people
MrWani
21 Dec 16#63
have a look at your earth on your plug. I had the same issue with it not accepting a plug and discovered it was a slightly wobbly earth in a cheap plug causing the issue.
MrWani
21 Dec 16#64
no think that was just the socket. I went with my electrician to the wholesaler to choose a style of socket. That was the RRP listed in the catalog although I didn't see it separately itemised on my bill.
oliverhussick
22 Dec 16#66
I wouldn't buy MK Dis Boards! Merlin Gerin for that, surely!?!? Also part of Schneider! :wink:
oliverhussick
22 Dec 16#67
Bit of Albany and Grosvenor Rope Edge for the posh people, right? :wink:
mad_design_man
22 Dec 16#68
No deal! You can buy them all year round at electrical online for £6 each!
morpheus to mad_design_man
22 Dec 16#69
Link please?
oliverhussick
22 Dec 16#71
Ooooooh. Outside rockers. Niche..... personally I always liked a hospital install!
silid
22 Dec 16#72
Showing as £29.99 for me.
mrew42 to silid
22 Dec 16#73
Yep looks like this deal has sailed
rkingphoto
22 Dec 16#74
Deal ended but 2 white ones in B&Q are £15, other finishes are reduced too.
Opening post
'British General' brand - so quite reasonable. In Screwfix it is near to this price for one c**ppy LAP one. It is also £19.99 for one of these in Screwfix with the BG brand.
Probably not as cheap as eBay. But would trust something like this from there anyhows, as you don't know what your getting.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoZ1_aEDPos
All comments (76)
And yet
states, fits 25mm box...?
Luceco plc Group
Masterplug is a member of the Luceco plc group of companies, also including:
Luceco - energy saving LED lighting
Masterplug - portable power products
Ross - Home Entertainment Accessories
Heat added though decent price :smiley:
Even so, wherever possibly I'd always use a 35mm box for a socket outlet, 25mm can more often than not be tight for 2 (or 3) sets of cables.
Very please with them so far and they look good too
http://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-13A-Switched-Socket-%2B-USB-Charger-2-Gang-Brushed-Screwless-Flat-Plate/p/106861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoZ1_aEDPos
He does tend to buy a lot of ebay crap.. would be nice if he tested more proper items
I charge all of my Mobile devices via a mains and USB socket with the type A and not had any bother. I don't see why I'm going to run into issues in at least another 5 years if the last 20 or so have been no bother?.
(My local electrical store stopped supplying British General stuff)
v.similar (identical?) product - £16.50 on Amazon for a 1-pack. Heat from me!
http://www.argos.co.uk/product/5586220
Powerknight from 7dayshop
The implications being what exactly?
Some of the comments are a joke
BG are fine
MK are overpriced and not that premium these days
Schneider are the best of the best (pro tip)
LAP are amazing....
I have fitted a lot of BG and never had any issues
Personally i'd rather pay more