Got one myself from Currys for £100 more last week. Very good TV .Seems good price .
Taking 4K to the next level with HDR, the Sony KD55XD8599 makes pictures more believable than ever.
4K X1 processor for sublime picture quality
With its UHD screen resolution of 3840 x 2160 pixels, the Sony KD55XD8599 is ready for the 4K revolution. Four times more detailed than Full HD, the gain in resolution is clearly visible and, even close up, the detail and realism are awesome. Thanks to Sony's X-Reality PRO 4K technology, standard FHD images can be upscaled to near UHD quality, giving the sharpest detail possible from your Blu-rays and other FHD sources.
HDR - High Dynamic Range
Taking 4K UHD one stage further, this Sony 55 inch TV is now compatible with HDR (High Dynamic Range). This extends the range of colours for enhanced realism. It also delivers brighter whites and darker blacks, helping to give this TV stunning levels of contrast.
Triluminos display and Motionflow XR1000Hz
As well as 4K, this Sony TV also boasts a Triluminos display; developed to produce truer, deeper and more natural shades of colour, with skin shades appearing far more natural. It's also fitted with Motionflow XR 1000Hz, which works especially well with fast moving action, such as sports events, removing the blur you can see with standard TVs. From a Hollywood blockbuster to a Formula One race, XR1000 makes a significant difference.
Android TV
Offering the slick interaction of the best smartphones, Android TV is one of the smartest content managers and providers to date. Boasting features such as Google Cast, Google Play and Voice Search, this Sony is part TV and part giant smartphone.
Voice Search and Content Bar for effortless searching
Even with such a massive range of content, finding what you want is always easy. Voice Search means you simply say what you're looking for and let Android TV find it for you. The unobtrusive content bar quickly lets you find the movie, TV show or video you're after. Call up the Content bar and you can keep watching, while you scan through live TV, on demand, downloaded TV shows and more.
Stream PlayStation games straight to your TV
Play selected PlayStation 3 games directly through the TV - without a console! PlayStation Now brings streaming technology to the immersive world of PlayStation gaming. Just pair a DUALSHOCK 4 controller with the TV and you're ready to play with the same speed and responsiveness as a console.
Squeezing more sound from the flatscreen TV
Although flatscreen TVs have their limits and can never match a soundbar or sound base, the Sony KD55XD8599 packs in some technology that can certainly make the most of the space limitations. DSEE (Digital Sound Enhancement Engine) restores the natural sound from compressed audio, giving it a more spacious and lifelike balance. ClearAudio+ and ClearPhase systems work to create an immersive sound that's also as natural as possible.
IR Blaster for complete control
The supplied IR (Infra-Red) Blaster lets you control other devices in your home from your Sony TV remote. You can use it to control your set-top box - such as Sky, Virgin or Humax - with the TV remote controller, for single remote convenience.
Latest comments (57)
smg1984
9 Dec 16#57
HDR is not resolution
HacKage
9 Dec 161#56
If true, those people need to get to specsavers!
delusion
9 Dec 161#55
Why? I know lots of people that struggle to see the difference between sd/720p/1080. Why wouldn't this be the same?
Mr_Mister
3 Dec 16#54
I am looking for a Sony 55" but can anyone tell me the main difference between this model and the following two please?
I've just got this price beat from richer sounds, £839 :wink: really happy as I was going to get the 8005 for £799 but been able to get the next model up for only £40 more. Thanks :smile:
smg1984
3 Dec 16#50
Someone talking nonsense if he cant even see the difference between 8 and 10 bit lol
elpandalover
3 Dec 16#45
Picked up the kd55xd8005 during black Friday for 769 and I'm very happy so far great picture and sound, even SD is ok. What's the difference between that and this one?
RAFAVDV to elpandalover
3 Dec 161#46
I've got one arriving tomorrow hopefully, picked up from amazon warehouse for £570.
Glad to hear you're pleased with it. How's the sound? Am looking into soundbars.
MissiveUK to elpandalover
3 Dec 16#49
That is interesting to know that SD channels are good as well.. heard people are not happy with SD channels on KS7000?
Face172
3 Dec 16#48
hallelujah, someone speaking some sense!
sam75uk
3 Dec 16#47
TPS? Never heard about them before. Are they reliable? The deal seems to good to be true with a free wall fitting
markh2001
3 Dec 16#44
Got my Samsung UE49KS7000 arriving tomorrow/later today, got it price beat for £759 with 6 years guarantee at Richersounds. Personally been into curry's a few times looking at all the TVs and the KS7000 won hands down in picture quality ovet all the others, there picture was also comparable if not the same to the KS9000 series.
True 10 bit pannel on a 50 inch TV with sleek bezels for £759 including 6 year guarantee! Thank you very much, deal deal deal. :smiley:
darksource
3 Dec 16#43
also the Sammy won't fit on my table top!!!
darksource
3 Dec 16#42
looking for some advice peeps, got an opportunity to swap my ku6400 55inch for a Sony 8599 an extra 140, do u think it's a better TV picture wise and for gaming the ku6400 is nice but got some judder and hdr mode is awful I can pay an extra 250 for a Sammy ks7000 but it seems allot extra not sure what to do got two days to decide need some help so undecided
VA panel over IPS any day... so defo better choice and 3" more to boot from (my missus says it's very important)
And for those of you saying HDR (as a standardized protocol, be it HDR10 or HDR Premium or SUHD or whatever the marketing nomenclature) has nothing to do with 10bit panel, check your facts.
Proper HDR has 2 requirements
A. Blacks of 0.05 cd/m^2 or less and whites (locally, 10% window) of 1000 nit or more (or 500nit for OLED)
B. 90% coverage of DCI-P3 colour space
Good luck displaying 90% of DCI-P3 without a 10-bit panel (or at least 8bit+Dithering) and Wide Colour Gamut support.
HDR in low end and some mid end TVs (often misleadingly marketed as HDR Pro) is not only a gimmick but sometimes a real downgrade in picture quality of HDR content due to either
i. wrong ramapping of colour from DCI-P3 (Rec.2020) (=content) to Rec.709 (tv can display because of lack of 10-bit panel or WCG support or both) resulting in poor colour accuracy or
ii. lack of (sufficient) local dimming zones so that blacks remain deep, without shadow detail being crushed, and light details are brilliant without clipping or bright halos and light bleed resulting in a washed out image.
So all in all for proper HDR experience you need:
- Ideally OLED panel or VA panel with Full Array Local Dimming (IPS is a no go from the get go as it fails the 0.05 cd/m^2 requirement). Edge lit panels have very few local dimming zones and better be avoided.
- 10bit panel with WCG support
frieqs
2 Dec 16#39
Meanwhile, back to the OP, is this 55" Sony a good buy for £850? Being in the market for a decent 55" tv should I rule this in or out? I'm persuadable that about £500 extra for an LG OLED = in for a penny, in for a pound, although if fantastic 4K picture quality can be had for sub £1k then am equally happy to save the £
The last few comments have given me a MUCH better idea of what im looking for than i did before. Im in the market fir a 55" and i was under the impression the KS7000 is the best option to go for my sub £1000 budget. Would you agree?
smg1984 to sBech
2 Dec 161#37
Yes
BigVern1984
2 Dec 16#35
Sure, there will be more and more, and it can slightly improve some aspects in some scenes. But unlike HDR which makes a big difference, 10bit will only make a small difference. Having it on the top of your wish list and paying a lot for it is just not worth doing. Pro level designers/photographers might sometimes have a 10bit panel monitor, and the improvement might be useful for them. But for watching movies/tv it should only be a 'nice to have'
HacKage
2 Dec 16#34
You're right, there is very little 10 bit content available at the moment, but what is going to be available in the next year or so? Sky Q is already 10-bit, and new content is available all the time. My current TV is 5 years old (and still has a better quality picture than most TVs available today), and I expect my next TV to last around the same length of time. Do you not think there will be more 10-bit content available in the next 5 years?
BigVern1984
2 Dec 161#33
No. Honestly, I've work in this industry a long time. They both effect the visual image yes, so both make the image better, but they are fundamentally totally different. You can have one fully working without the other. The reason people like yourself are confused is part of the Industry spec for HDR is to support a 10bit source. This does not mean you need a 10bit image for "true" HDR. My point is there is hardly any 10bit content out there, and when you do see it most people would find it very hard to understand the difference. It's just not worth worrying about for most people.
smg1984
2 Dec 161#30
Complete **** Sony & 8 Bit for £800+ LOL Pathetic
RajUK to smg1984
2 Dec 16#32
Best comment of the week .
paulj48
2 Dec 161#31
The term HDR generally is the ability to display a wider and richer range of colour and contrast so a 10 bit panel is used to achieve this, and can achieve this much better than a 8 bit panel. How you can state they have nothing to do with each other just shows your ignorance on the subject.
emiratesstadium
2 Dec 16#28
Wrong on the gaming front.
It's actually one of the better fps tvs on the market.
The_Guru to emiratesstadium
2 Dec 161#29
For gaming Samsung input lag is one of the best
The_Guru
2 Dec 161#27
I should have waited. But in technology you'll be waiting forever! Something always new. Lol.
HacKage
2 Dec 16#26
Yea they've dropped a lot as I have been watching like a hawk! Costco has the 55XD9305 for £1299 and the 65XD9305 for £1849. As soon as the 55 hits the £1000 mark I'm on it. Even at the full price it holds it's own as one of the best there is available!
sarvo_uk
2 Dec 16#25
I have got this TV. Bout this from Richer sound with a free soundbar which I flogged for 180. I have to say it is an amazing TV for the cost..
mcormack
2 Dec 16#22
No Dolby Vision, Not 10 Bit, COLD!
The_Guru to mcormack
2 Dec 16#24
Dolby vision won't be on on all brandes yet. Still a while to go. Hdr 10 more common.
The_Guru
2 Dec 16#23
yes your right. I forgot the prices have come down on different models. Were much higher when I bought mine a while ago.
The_Guru
2 Dec 16#21
Boom! Hence in my previous reply, you'll hardly notice the difference.
HacKage
2 Dec 16#20
The 55XD9305 is a proper 10-bit panel and is £1499, and the 65XD9305 with an even better panel is £2199, why does it need to be above £2500?
The_Guru
2 Dec 16#4
Still does ok hdr even though it's 8 bit.
paulj48 to The_Guru
2 Dec 161#6
if your spending this sort of price on a 55" I'd want a 10bit panel.
ultrakev to The_Guru
2 Dec 161#8
Please explain your logic underlying that conclusion.
BigVern1984 to The_Guru
2 Dec 162#19
HDR and 8bit are NOTHING to do with each other. Everyone on hot deals loves talking about this but they have no idea. HDR pulls out the shadows, hi-lights, etc to give the image a greater depth of colours and range. 10bit bit on the other hand does not increase the hi and low range at all, it add more steps of colour between the already existing shades of colour, nothing to do with increased range! Say you have a image of a blue sky, the 10bit panel will have a smoother blue gradient (banding) as it has more steps of colour. Only professional grade monitors with hi-res images really need a 10bit panel, you will never notice the difference on a tv I think. Maybe if your watching 4K blurays and you know what to look out for. Adding 10bit to TVs in mainly marketing.
The_Guru
2 Dec 16#18
I find Samsung is good on the higher end 9000 series. But crazy money.
Sniffer77
2 Dec 16#17
:)from me as it's a great price . Gone Samsung 7000 myself but the deal is a good one
The_Guru
2 Dec 16#16
yeah I also checked the Samsungs because of the high reviews they get but to be honest the Sony quality is far better. The Sony panels have much better resolution and Sharpness and realism in the image were as Samsung just have over vibrant unnatural image. Need to mess with them to much I found to get a good image. Plus curved screens are worse. Rubbish marketing technique.
paulj48
2 Dec 16#15
as already stated the KS7000 gets great reviews as a mid priced TV with a 10 bit panel. I read a review in last months Home Cinema and they praised it.
paulj48
2 Dec 161#14
after that your opinion rates as nothing
RajUK
2 Dec 16#13
I second this , I too spend so much time looking in to these tech confusing TVs , ultimately , more than the number(which many brands have created themselves) , see it and decide it is what I did . And before all those number checking , things we need to check is , what is our requirement , what is our budget , then decide on what best we can get .Well atleast with these steps , we would have only handful of Tvs (still) to decide and less confusion. Though this TV and Samsung KS7000 were on same price tag ,inspite of reserving KS7000 , I bought Sony . Reasons are I feel Sony gets me more realistic picture than Samsung , which Is a big deal for me .And build quality is excellent too. finally Adroid is a bonus. My 1 Sony remote works with all Apps and Picture looks really good.Didnt use it for Gaming , but SD upscalling , 4K content all excellent. Happy customer.
The_Guru
2 Dec 162#12
you'll need to spend around £2500 + to get a good 10 bit panel. And that's even if you notice the difference. I have the older model kd55x8509c and the hdr mode does make a difference. It's not the best but a good boost for the price your getting. The sonys are the best in my opinion. I checked all different makes and models for months before buying. And the android is a added plus.
paulj48
2 Dec 161#11
yes, put it another way, I wouldn't want to pay more than £600 for a 4K 55" with the ability to process HDR but not the ability to display it fully.
Scotsmania
2 Dec 161#10
KS7000 can be had for about £50 more with proper 10bit and a better quality image. Plus the Sony has awful input lag for gaming.
tom6195
2 Dec 161#9
spending £849, and you want 10-bit?
Shambles
2 Dec 16#2
Don't forget the 7 year warranty and free wall mounting kit.
paulj48 to Shambles
2 Dec 161#7
that's if TPS are still trading in year 6 and 7 after you buy this.
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Opening post
Taking 4K to the next level with HDR, the Sony KD55XD8599 makes pictures more believable than ever.
4K X1 processor for sublime picture quality
With its UHD screen resolution of 3840 x 2160 pixels, the Sony KD55XD8599 is ready for the 4K revolution. Four times more detailed than Full HD, the gain in resolution is clearly visible and, even close up, the detail and realism are awesome. Thanks to Sony's X-Reality PRO 4K technology, standard FHD images can be upscaled to near UHD quality, giving the sharpest detail possible from your Blu-rays and other FHD sources.
HDR - High Dynamic Range
Taking 4K UHD one stage further, this Sony 55 inch TV is now compatible with HDR (High Dynamic Range). This extends the range of colours for enhanced realism. It also delivers brighter whites and darker blacks, helping to give this TV stunning levels of contrast.
Triluminos display and Motionflow XR1000Hz
As well as 4K, this Sony TV also boasts a Triluminos display; developed to produce truer, deeper and more natural shades of colour, with skin shades appearing far more natural. It's also fitted with Motionflow XR 1000Hz, which works especially well with fast moving action, such as sports events, removing the blur you can see with standard TVs. From a Hollywood blockbuster to a Formula One race, XR1000 makes a significant difference.
Android TV
Offering the slick interaction of the best smartphones, Android TV is one of the smartest content managers and providers to date. Boasting features such as Google Cast, Google Play and Voice Search, this Sony is part TV and part giant smartphone.
Voice Search and Content Bar for effortless searching
Even with such a massive range of content, finding what you want is always easy. Voice Search means you simply say what you're looking for and let Android TV find it for you. The unobtrusive content bar quickly lets you find the movie, TV show or video you're after. Call up the Content bar and you can keep watching, while you scan through live TV, on demand, downloaded TV shows and more.
Stream PlayStation games straight to your TV
Play selected PlayStation 3 games directly through the TV - without a console! PlayStation Now brings streaming technology to the immersive world of PlayStation gaming. Just pair a DUALSHOCK 4 controller with the TV and you're ready to play with the same speed and responsiveness as a console.
Squeezing more sound from the flatscreen TV
Although flatscreen TVs have their limits and can never match a soundbar or sound base, the Sony KD55XD8599 packs in some technology that can certainly make the most of the space limitations. DSEE (Digital Sound Enhancement Engine) restores the natural sound from compressed audio, giving it a more spacious and lifelike balance. ClearAudio+ and ClearPhase systems work to create an immersive sound that's also as natural as possible.
IR Blaster for complete control
The supplied IR (Infra-Red) Blaster lets you control other devices in your home from your Sony TV remote. You can use it to control your set-top box - such as Sky, Virgin or Humax - with the TV remote controller, for single remote convenience.
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Glad to hear you're pleased with it. How's the sound? Am looking into soundbars.
True 10 bit pannel on a 50 inch TV with sleek bezels for £759 including 6 year guarantee! Thank you very much, deal deal deal. :smiley:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/panasonic-58dx700b-for-749-very-2565063
And for those of you saying HDR (as a standardized protocol, be it HDR10 or HDR Premium or SUHD or whatever the marketing nomenclature) has nothing to do with 10bit panel, check your facts.
Proper HDR has 2 requirements
A. Blacks of 0.05 cd/m^2 or less and whites (locally, 10% window) of 1000 nit or more (or 500nit for OLED)
B. 90% coverage of DCI-P3 colour space
Good luck displaying 90% of DCI-P3 without a 10-bit panel (or at least 8bit+Dithering) and Wide Colour Gamut support.
HDR in low end and some mid end TVs (often misleadingly marketed as HDR Pro) is not only a gimmick but sometimes a real downgrade in picture quality of HDR content due to either
i. wrong ramapping of colour from DCI-P3 (Rec.2020) (=content) to Rec.709 (tv can display because of lack of 10-bit panel or WCG support or both) resulting in poor colour accuracy or
ii. lack of (sufficient) local dimming zones so that blacks remain deep, without shadow detail being crushed, and light details are brilliant without clipping or bright halos and light bleed resulting in a washed out image.
So all in all for proper HDR experience you need:
- Ideally OLED panel or VA panel with Full Array Local Dimming (IPS is a no go from the get go as it fails the 0.05 cd/m^2 requirement). Edge lit panels have very few local dimming zones and better be avoided.
- 10bit panel with WCG support
It's actually one of the better fps tvs on the market.
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/sony-bravia-kd55xd8005bu-smart-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-55-led-tv-10149279-pdt.html
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