must.. hold... off... another... 2... more... days... for... sales.... (but this price is very tempting!)

If like me you find the feet too far apart try this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pro-Signal-Pedestal-Stand-32/dp/B00XJRJFNY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1482570949&sr=8-3&keywords=vesa+stand

To be fair, getting judder on a £900+ TV shouldn't be acceptable... I'd be pretty annoyed if my TV did.

not the new 50% faster 2017 model.. cold

joking!
#AlwaysANewOneAroundTheCorner

must.. hold... off... another... 2... more... days... for... sales.... (but this price is very tempting!)

Good price and heat added, the RS sale prices don't look to be great imho. Hopefully they might have a rethink today :wink:

not the new 50% faster 2017 model.. cold

joking!
#AlwaysANewOneAroundTheCorner

finally at a price I like from a supplier I would buy from and no quidco or TCB available :-(
specs for anyone that doesn't already know

Specs

If only it had its feet in the middle :disappointed:

Any saving I make on this new fangled trend of tvs with their feet wide apart is ruined by the need to replace my perfectly good TV stand!

Same:(

If like me you find the feet too far apart try this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pro-Signal-Pedestal-Stand-32/dp/B00XJRJFNY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1482570949&sr=8-3&keywords=vesa+stand

Heat. Had this TV for about six weeks now. Love it.

​Yes, very tiny ones when using the sky Q box, but barely noticeable.

OK thanks. Some people go on like it's the end of the Earth.

To be fair, getting judder on a £900+ TV shouldn't be acceptable... I'd be pretty annoyed if my TV did.

I see your point. I'm pretty sure I read that there are calibration settings on the AV forums which stop this judder. Wish that Panasonic Tx58dx902b would drop and give me something to consider.

Superb price. Stunning TV. It has everything future proof. Hot

Waiting for the 65ks8000 to drop in price

I bought this tv a few weeks ago for the bedroom, it's fantastic! I believe what they say about the margins at this price - I think it's a marketing thing to get quantum dot out there at basically half the price of OLED.

I noticed juddering at first (with sky q) - solution was (ironically) to turn off all of the motion settings (which are basically anti-jutter).

Comparing this to the F8000 (which cost us over twice this originally and was a flagship model) in the living room, this blows it out of the water!

Just hoping for a Boxing Day sale on the oleds now!

Does anyone know what broadcasting standard will be used when they the BBC (eventually) start broadcasting 4K over DTT? And will the tuners of the 4K HDR TVs on sale now be compatible when it eventually happens?
Got told in currys that the current 4K TVs with Freeview HD tuners would become compatible with 4K HDR DTT through a software update (which I am sceptical about).

​I would even go as far as to call it judder. A micro stutter might be a better description.

​Is your sky Q like ked directly to the one box or through an av receiver? I tried turning off all motion setting but it made things worse!

No even after calibration some are unhappy about judder/ microjudder - it's why I still not sure about this set

And apart from not supporting HLG

I've owned 49" version of this model and must say the best TV i've ever bought. Before this I brought 6500 series Curved in 55" but got it replaced by this, I have not regrated my decision. Good price for 55".

I got this TV in November and haven't had any issues with judder. It is amazing. Perfect picture and loads of cool features like streaming from the pc and being able to link the sound bar with the Xbox and Playstation so the smart remote controls all the volumes. Maybe the judder is the soap opera effect people tend to leave switched on auto in options. It's under auto motion plus in picture settings. Set blue red turn to 8 and judder reduction to 0. Led clear motion off. It'll make everything look better.

Want 65 inch model for this price :wink:
Couple more days... or years

want to buy this tv but worried about all the reviews saying about the back panel coming loose, anyone experienced this?

Just ordered, thanks! :smiley:

No Quidco or Topcashback, but you can get 5 miles per £1 spend on either Avios Shopping or Virgin Flying Club shopping when selecting John Lewis as retailer. Both deals end today though when it goes back to 2 miles per £1 spend.

Quidco gives you 40 coins, like a loyalty thing. I think you need 150 to get £15. Just check your account.

Done it! Couldn't miss out :smile:

If they had a credit option I'd jump on this......£900 is just too much for me to lay in one whack!

Ordered, been looking for one for a while and with the price match I'm covered

I have the 49" version and there is as someone has described well a bit of a stutter. I turned auto motion setting off and it has pretty much gone. It seems all of the image processing stuff they tout actually makes things worse and the AV forums suggested settings suggested mostly get you to turn them all off.

Ooh, just seen it's the same price in Richer Sounds......off to have a chat with them!

Have the 60" version and it's getting returned . Build quality is shocking . Trim round the tv coming away , motion stutter which is bad when watching football .
Terrible light bleed and watching anything off centre then the colours are washed out .
Might have just had a bad set but won't be getting another .

Currys are now selling this at £899 plus you can get cashback via topcashback of potentially 6.6% on selected Samsung TVs... I don't know what the select TVs are though as there is no indication on the websites...

Ye I noticed it myself. Ordered about an hour ago from here. What to do? Anyone else thinking to cancel and go for Richer Sounds?

Ohhh should i take the 49 back and pay and extra 100 for this hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Sadly you're not... all the RS stores and telesales are closed today. Re-open on boxing day!

Just ordered. Is there any benefit to ordering from Richer Sounds vs John Lewis?

Richer sounds offer a 6 year warranty , JL is 5 years

By any chance ever found one in silver? I've looked but can't see any.

Ordered from JL - delivery next Saturday morning - happy days...

...oh, and thanks for the tip about the Avios points, which as I have also paid on my Lloyds Duo Amex card, linked to Avios, should earn me a few more miles.

​That's 2 words. :wink:

​ quidco has 10% off on selected tvs from Cyrus, but if you click the link the offer applies to only few models of small size TVs. This offer expires in another 3 hours. I am going to wait till they refresh the rates.

​My back panel is fine.

This TV is brilliant.

I was nearly put off by the bad reviews but manually adjust the settings I got mine from AVforums and you'll be good to go.

So many complaints all over the place, especially on JL site, about motion issues with this set. That and build quality make me very wary.

​thanks, think I will go for it then

​I bought this for the tv and its perfect. like you i did not want a new stand and this rotates too.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/1home-Pedestal-Bracket-Stand-60-Inch/dp/B01B1PULJM

Bet you say that to all the boys :confused:

Richer Sounds gives an extra year warranty, but for me it's the availability of credit - if JL did credit then I'd go with then every time!

Tempted I've got a Sony 50w829 just how much better is this TV will the Mrs notice?

i wonder if this will drop even more as am so tempted

​It's not that perfectly good if you can't put TVs on it :smile:

Hmm, good point, but I've never had a TV break, ever. If it lasts 5 years it'll probably last 10. John Lewis is closer and more accessible should I need to return it in the first week though, and the sound bar deals JL are offering are better than Richer Sounds deals for the same sound bars when ordered with the TV.

​Do Richer Sounds have a price match guarantee like John Lewis? At least the JL purchase is "protected" if another retailer offers a cheaper price on boxing day or in the Jan sales. I should mention that I live Richer Sounds and have bought loads from them in the past, but I've never had a guarantee over 1 year on a TV and still never had an issue, so 5 years is fine.

The Currys deal is making me think though. If the 6.6% cashback on TCB is applicable to this TV, that's another £60 off. Question is, how do we find out if this TV is included?

Richer sounds have a policy to 'beat' other competitors by an amount. In this case that would be £20. They do specify they will only do it with a retailer with a comparable guarantee. As for Currys, they have only just jumped on the bandwagon with the guarantee and personally I don't like dealing with them. So for me, I'll stick with JL for now.

Personally I'd never buy a TV from anyone else these days, as the customer service at JL is superb. I've just had the panel fail on my Sony set with less than a month of the 5 year guarantee remaining. As there is nothing of an equivalent spec, they have given me credit to the value of what I originally paid (£849). By adding just a £1 to this I will qualify for a new 5 year guarantee. So....I can get this for £50, but the judder issues do concern me, as I watch tons of sport.

​You got me here, no such a thing as future proof considering that new technologies are announced so often, i rather meant secured for few more years as hdr is definitely going to be heavily supported in coming years and this tv hdr is top notch.

I keep getting tempted by this tv but then I look on the user reviews and it puts me off. I know if you buy from JL they will take it back, but still a bind having to box it up etc and I've found they do take a bit of pushing these days to take stuff back. Decisions decisions!

The only problem at the moment with this set and other makes is it does not support HLG unless a software update will cover this. From what I understand HLG (hybrid log gramma) is needed for viewing HDR with upcoming BBC broadcasting ( there may be others ). I think at the moment some Panasonic TVs support this ( I may be wrong) so HDR platform is developing very quickly.

​according to this article: http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/hybrid-log-gamma-what-is-it it sounds like HLG will be achievabke via a software upgrade. Samsung were the only manufacturer willing to commit when asked to comment.
At the end of the day, you can wait and wait (another 6 months by the sounds of it for HLG). I pulled the trigger 2 days ago and can't wait until next week for the delivery :smile:

Bought this tv, as soon as this thread was started, been into currys whilst out shopping and drooled over it, knowing it will be in my house on Friday, but all that aside, you can never please all the people all of the time, there will always be somebody with a negative comment about the item you might want to buy.
so just to sum it up, if you like it, do not worry what others say, be brave, be independent, and make your own mind up.
but whilst you are still deliberating, i will be watching a great tv

​how do you know it's great if you haven't got it yet, you might have problems like all the other 'negative' reviews, £899 is a lot of money to some people and they want to get it right like myself. constructive reviews to help people would be better.

Yes I read that but it also summed up by saying:
"When it comes to HLG on 2016 screens, the watch phrase has to be caveat emptor (or buyer beware)".
Just making the point things are a changing and 2017 seems to be pivotal to HDR, as said before I am considering this set, but been caught out to many times before by buying something that's been the best thing since sliced bread only to find out later it wasn't that great.

I've been deliberating buying a new TV since LAST Christmas! Every time I think "that's the TV I'm buying", I read a few reviews and something always puts me off. It's either some flaw in the TV, or some new technology that's just on the cusp of being released.

At this rate, when I finally bite the bullet, I'll be getting an 8k ultra hdr holographic OLED for £399 in about 3 years ☺️

Buying a TV is a nightmare if you're even a bit tech minded, and also fussy & OCD...

I was in JL on Christmas Eve as they have given me credit of £849 for a faulty Sony that died 1 month before the 5 year guarantee ran out (as mentioned in a previous post). I was looking at the S8000 in the 49" for £1199 and talking to the Samsung rep. I mentioned judder, motion handling in sport and also whether quality control had actually improved at Samsung - based on the number of issues with trim falling off, inconsistent panels etc..., as I'd always chosen Sony in the past. He was very honest in his response and said that due to the actual number of sets sold (massively more than Sony) there will always be some QC issues, but no more % wise than any other manufacturer. He said he'd never known any issues with motion handling in sport and that if the TV is calibrated properly (basically by switching off most of the motion handling settings) there won't be a problem. Every person is different though and settings need to be set accordingly. Gone are the days that the 'vivid' settings out of the box with every processing tool switched are in any way acceptable'.
He then said 'you're looking at the 49" S8000, but the best TV in the shop bar none for spec and bang for your buck is the 55" S7000. There is no way that I can recommend the S8000 for £300 more when it is smaller and performance is equal. You will not get a better TV spec wise at £899'. We were then joined by a JL partner (as they call them) and he asked him 'best TV in the shop for price'. The response - 'the S7000 no question'. The guy from JL then said 'the price is crazy and JL don't want to sell it at that price, but it's a price match that started Christmas Eve. Get one whilst you can'.
The rep then said - 'the Sony range this year has been blighted by a glitchy android operating system that is still not fixed.....no one will recommend Sony at the moment. The LG OLED's are amazing but so pricey and the rest of the range is average. The Panasonic sets look superb, but the panels are 8 bit and not as future proof as Samsung'.
I'm still undecided myself, it's like a minefield out there as every TV these days seems to have some issues. I've always avoided Samsung in the past due to the number of QC problems they always seem to have, but I still keep coming back to this TV. The only problem is that at 48" wide (for a 55" set) it's a little big for the room and it's footprint - the wide feet are an issue.
Interesting to note that in Currys the S7000 was hidden away from the main Samsung display and the rep in there was pushing me towards the S8000. It was as if they did not want to sell the S7000 at that price. On paper it looks to be an amazing bargain - just a shame about a number of poor reviews.

Check out the original review here:- S7000 review - AV Forums

User comments and settings here:- 123 pages of comments

ADVICE from users with this TV. I went into Currys yesterday to see this and noticed on a movie clip in dark scenes the picture is very blocky in places. I mentioned this to a member of staff who said you will get this and pushed me towards a Sony. Has anyone else noticed this and can this be removed / improved in the picture settings?

Samsung already said publicly and to review sites that their 2016 range will be updated to support HLG via a Firmware upgrade, then again how quickly they do this... Although they've been releasing new firmware for KS7000 quite often.

It's HDMI 2.1 and Dolby Vision I'm more concerned about... Then again, allot of manufactures are shying away from Dolby Vision due to needing the chip / not having control (One of the mods on avforums had spoken to the TV manufacturers about it).

i have read reviews, and going by them, it is a great tv, and as noted before "be brave, be independent, and make your own mind up" Good luck in your search, and try not to think so negatively about what others may post, be brave

Yes didn't want mention 2.1 and Dolby vision - didn't want to come over to negative ha ha, but as mentioned my later post above re TReviews concluded by stated :
"When it comes to HLG on 2016 screens, the watch phrase has to be caveat emptor (or buyer beware)" so not sure what point he was actually making in the article about firmware update, was he saying that may or may not happen?

A few reviews I've found in magazines:-

What HiFi Awards 2016

Home Cinema Choice - Best of 2016

Stuff Top 10 Dec 16

Home Cinema Choice Xmas 16 - Top 10

Based on all the reviews at £1300 - £899 is a steal for a TV that gets loads of awards and sits in the Top 10 against sets costing 2-3 times as much. Shame it's doesn't have 3D

Haha yeah. TReviews already spoken to Samsung, who were quite forceful in saying that they would upgrade this TV to support HLG, so i think we're ok.. Other maufactuers not being so willing to state it publically.

The hope is that for HDMI 2.1 / Dynamic HDR that a firmware upgrade should be possible as no physical hardware changes are needed for it, will just have to see though.

To be honest 4K is well out of "Early adopter" phase now, imagine being somebody who jumped in when they had 1.4 HDMI ports? Those people really are screwed - and paid through the nose.

For everyone on the fence about this TV worried about juddering, back pannel etc just STOP!

I've got the 49 inch model from RS and it's bloody amazing. I've had none of the issues reported, the TV is beautiful, vibrant, thin and plays 4K and HDR content really well, tested on PS4 pro, Xbox one s and tried 4K blu rays. Luckily I was within my 2 week period to send back to Richersounds in exchange paying the difference for the 55 inch model which I'm getting tomorrow. (Was worth paying £99 more for the size difference).


This is an amazing TV I hope this helps to reassure some of you guys.

Hope your 55" replacement will be ok - tell us when you get it please

OOS

I currently have the Samsung 55H6700, 2 years old, worth upgrading to this model and benefit from the 4k UHD material on my Sky Q? Thoughts appreciated, cheers.

Shame it's out of stock online as Currys now have the TV for £849 using the code TV50.