I'm a big audio / visual nerd, full KEF 5.1 in living room etc. I jumped straight onto 1080p, I also jumped straight onto a 3DTV (What a waste of time that was). I'm your typical early adopter, drives the wife mad but she does like my HTC Vive.

I would completely agree with this though and a big reason why I'm still on a 55" Samsung 1080p set, few huge problems for me currently.

- We've only just started to see sets take peak brightness and nits seriously, this being one of the first and with plenty of issues.

- 4K Bluray players cost a fortune.

- 4K content is still very lacking

I'd happily drop 2k on a 55-65" 4K set right now but while content is so sparse I'm waiting. I do think this year will bring sets which you can finally say are future proof. No doubt Hisense, Samsung and LG will all be bringing out very good high peak brightness sets for HDR... This Samsung set would of been spot on but far to many issues. I actually considered buying it until I saw all the problems.

If anyone who ordered from Richer sounds gets them to price match John Lewis can you let me know please. Said they couldn't do it since it's out of stock however John Lewis adjusted the price for existing purchases to price match currys.

Has this sold out at richer sounds? Can't find the tv on there site

Why thanks you b**ch, in all seriousness though I've bought loads from them over the years so they know I'm a good customer. :smiley:

Not long bought the 49inch model, Richersounds have allowed me to send it back and pay the difference to get the 55inch top company! :smiley:

Shame the Additions offer finished Christmas Eve - Additions

This TV seems to Rick all the boxes... except for the user reviews of motion judder. Do you think RS would refund if you're not happy with it?

Richersounds Belfast it's in store only, 2 there at the minute, but I'm 60mile away from home for xmas next few days, shame

Cancelled my John Lewis order and went for this with the UHD blu ray player and a cantilever wall bracket for £1100 all in.

I want the 60" but doesn't seem to be coming down £1299 still.

Well i went into Richersounds to take a look this morning - despite some of the issues experienced by owners i wanted to see it. Well, 4K with HDR looked incredible. Bit of an expensive morning, bought:

- Samsung UE55KS7000
- Denon AVRX2300W
- Yamaha YAS93 (Just a cheap soundbar for our bedroom, wont go with the above in living room)

this or Sony Bravia 55XD8005?

Price matched in john Lewis. Bought from there this morning. Just trust that place more than RS.
The size between the feet is huge. Don't know exactly but it's around 120cm

​I was a reasonably early adopter for 1080p and still have that Samsung set, but it ticked all the boxes and more. Early 4k adoption at the moment is a lot less clear as to whether sets will meet the test of time.

what's the distance between the feet?

I have this TV and it's amazing. By far best picture compared to others on price range. The back hasn't come off and the only issue is the occasionally micro judder that only I in my household has ever noticed. It's so minor it's easy to miss. I know others on forums have complained more about this but it seems some sets are better than others, maybe the panels have different manufacturers. I wouldn't hesitate in buying this TV, it's incredible.

Incorrect.

Full HD sets reached a point of maturity pretty quickly from an actual screen tech perspective , then each revision was more about more local dimming zones / additional smart tech.

4K TVs still need to mature. This Samsung set is really close, just shame about the issues.

it's so tempting, but as the standards for 'proper 4k' are still being set / have only just been, we'd be stupid to buy now, unless we don't care and it looks good enough. 10bit HDR standards are met by this, just, apparently it takes the set 7 seconds to reach the 1000 nits brightness which is pointless if the scene is over that required it in that time. And remember, there are 2 10bit standards anyway. If you can wait, wait. It's so tempting though :disappointed:

Well, to be honest, how many scenes are there in a movie or a game where you need the full brightness of a panel for a long time?

I cant remember a single movie where there would be a blinding brightness for more than a second or two. So this TV ticks all the boxes for me for a UHD HDR TV.

And for those who wanna wait for the right TV to come by with near perfect everything at this price, well they can wait while i watch and enjoy everything on this telly for the next 5 years. Don't you worry though, in the next 5 years you will have another good TV which will still not be perfect by any means :smiley:

From HDTVTEST.co.uk

Although the 49″ KS7000′s peak brightness quickly ramped up to 1380 cd/m2 on window sizes specified by the UHDA for Ultra HD Premium accreditation, it could only be sustained for approximately 19 seconds before gradually dropping over a period of 16 seconds to 570 cd/m2. While we prefer luminance levels that could be held stable indefinitely for ease of calibration, we understand this phenomenon is caused by power restriction, and specular highlights that require such high peak brightness are generally quite fleeting in real-world content anyway. Full-field peak white measured 579 cd/m2.

Hopefully, but I don't really want to wait and find out! Hoping the OLED
LG B6 will drop on Boxing Day so I can go for that instead, I'd take occasional image retention over motion issues.

cold not 12 bit :laughing:

I have the ks7000. Just updated to sky q which sends 1080p signal to set and the motion handling is much better. Much happier with tv now as it was annoying me before hand. When watching football it would stutter quite frequently, films were always fine, but noticed it when watching normal programs too. Had applied all settings from avforums rtings etc. Sky Q has sorted it in my opinion. Great price for this tv. Heat.

Same price at John Lewis now, for those that prefer dealing with them...

Seems to be a problem with Samsungs in general as I've read about this problem with other models of theirs. Hopefully can be fixed through firmware updates, as this TV is THE TVin terms of bang for buck at the moment.

Hi, there is quite a bit in the AV forums from people with similar issues (to be honest I'd rather not sieve through it all again!) the last 3 or 4 John Lewis reviewers have stated the same. Also when looking for reviews also search for the "KS8000" as this is the US version of the 7000, not to be confused with the UK KS8000

When reading up on this TV, i have only seen issues with some interlaced sources e.g sky at 1080i, got any links pointing to a wider issue than that?

Only issue with this TV seems to be how it handles motion. When researching the TV all major reviewers pointed to excellent motion handling, but then plenty of reviews on AV forums and John Lewis stated terrible handling of motion making most content unbearable to watch. I am in the process of returning mine as I just couldn't deal with the choppy and jerky motion on all sources (Xbox one S, movies, YouTube and Normal TV)

P.s every motion setting combination was explored as well as disabling it).

Buy this or wait 2 weeks to see what new sets are coming out?

Can't see this dropping much further

I think Crampton and moore have a code running for 10% off the 8000 range. Think it's TV10 and up to 10% last I looked on QuidCo. Guarantee was 5 years. Also includes a UHD blu ray player rrp 299 or so. If all fell into place and sold the player should be around £1k for the TV. Just a thought.

​Eagerly waiting this as well.

Do they come down in price though? I was looking at last year's model when these were released earlier in the year and instead of coming down in price, all stock seemingly just vanished.

Would have bought this on several occasions now if only it weren't for those stupid feet. I have a pretty big AV stand but it's still not wide enough for one of these. As I refuse to shell out for a wall mount, or new stand of any kind, I'm stuck waiting for the next series to see if Samsung come to their senses.

brilliant TV 10 bit panel makes huge difference for HDR and the upscaling is superb! :smile:

Wow what a price, got this TV about 4months ago and paid £1200 this is well worth this price.

Using it with the Xbox one S for 4k Blu-ray and HDR gaming and looks amazing.

Excellent price for this tv and Yes it has a 10 Bit Panel !