200 quid on a ssd? Ok then

​I've been using Ebuyer for close to 10 years now, and I've never once had an issue with their customer service.

They've always been really helpful, sorted returns out and dispatched replacements quickly enough. Sure they're no Amazon, but I'd happily use them and have no worries.

Great thinking. When Spring comes will we hear comments saying wait till Summer when the prices drop and so on... You would never buy an item

Never buy from ebuyer unless you are happy with dreadful customer service.

Never buy from ebuyer unless you are happy with dreadful customer service.

Nice specs, with proper quad core i5 processor but 5400 rpm hdd is criminal for a laptop of this speed.

Awful HDD drive. You will need to spend another £200 on a decent SSD to make this a machine worth considering.

I see the OP had learned the lessons --> "great for light gaming" :stuck_out_tongue:

This laptop is exactly what the OP says it is! My only issue is that the Intel IRIS 580 pretty much matches the gtx 940m so is probably not too far from the 950m. I wonder if the same spec laptop would cost as much with the Intel GPU?

Here here

Worth noting that this has the inferior version of the 950M GPU with DDR3 RAM.

Light gaming? That's like buying a 'fast slow' car....

Dropping £550 on a 950 class chip at this point in this is pretty silly as the prices of the 960, 970 etc will drop as will the price of 1050 based laptops, 1060 etc in the Spring.

Iris Pro is as rare as hen's teeth though....

No meaningful price drops between 21 Dec and 25 Dec? Thank you for that amazing insight Einstein.

And no, an MX-5 isn't fun on the track. One of the most overrated cars of recent times. It only sold well because women and hairdresser types hankered after a reliable 2 seater convertible that didn't break down every few miles, not because it drove particularly well.

You clearly don't understand GPU generations and price/performance. There are good and bad times to be buying certain GPUs. 950m is low powered and pretty useless other than for old games for several years ago. The 10XX is a massive performance increase on the 9XX series - it's a huge jump compared to the changes in previous generations of Nvidia GPUs. The 1070 for example is pretty incredible in terms of performance - look at the benches.

The whole point of waiting is to put yourself in sweet spot of price/performance ie high end 9XX or 10XX - tha's the sweetspot in terms of price/performance - not low end 9XX or high end 10XX. Buy a 950 based laptop now, just means you're buying a entry level GPU that's being phased out and has zero future proofing. If you only want to a laptop to play games from several years ago, then fine, but if you're wanting to play any new games released, triple A titles, you'd be mad to spend £550 on this as you'll be stuck it for the next couple of years at least with prospect of running new titles on it in the way that they should.

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Seems OK deal to me, but if not for Xmas present, wait a few weeks.

So anyone who disagrees with you doesn't understand or is wrong. Price brackets my friend. I have a desktop that I can play AAA games on full settings etc. I wanted a laptop because sometimes its nice to sit on my couch, bed or wherever and have a wee game. Now I had a budget of £650 and so I bought a 'gaming' laptop now because I want it now, not in a month or the month after, get the point. I am making people aware that this type of gaming laptop is suitable for gaming at a very reasonable price. I would say that an ssd is preferable and would enhance the experience yes, I have seen several on here **** off the i3 and i5 U processors as not up to gaming, this is so wrong and not true. Also I have been pleasantly surprised by the performance of the 4GB GDDR5 950M in my laptop and find it can game at ultra settings in Fallout 4 at 1080p and its very playable. I don't know if this is an 'old' game but it is used in reviews to test various setups so........ There is a market for these 'cheaper' laptops as the price of the so called performance ones is ridiculous. Personally I think the public are conned into believing you need more power than is true. This is my personal experience choose to believe it or not, I am no 'expert' but I have built and fixed computers for 30+ years, there is a place for these cheaper gaming laptops and they do better than some would have you believe.

So have you actually driven an mx-5? It is a fun car and handles reasonably well (non convertibles will tend to handle better as they have a stronger body). Maybe your style of driving doesn't suit.

I owned the original Mk1. Huge novelty value at the time given the history of unreliable British made convertibles but it definitely wasn't quick or good to drive. I've also tried a couple of the subsequent generations but it's nowhere close to being driver's car. It's more for people to pootle around in and enjoy the sunshine. The S2000 is on a whole different level to this car, as was the Z4 etc

Can anyone recommend any decent 17" laptop for a budget of under £600? I don't expect the best or latest please?!

Prefer the mX-5 to the S2000 but the S2000 has a good engine.
Never driven a z4. The thing with mx-5 is that it is fun to drive at slower speeds than cars like the bigger engined z4's.
I would'nt chose an mx5 as a track car though; would go for a car with more power.

Good machine, hdd is easily swapable for like 256gb or 128gb ssd which is not that expensive. Heat added

looks a bit bricky... and i bet heavier than stated 2.3kg. if im paying over £500, i would want ssd included personally, even the smallest 128gb ssd would be fine.

Having a modern machine without an SSD is false economy - it's the biggest single bottleneck in any given system.

I call it as I see it. I recently bought a printer from Ebuyer. Om first use, it blew the electrics in my daughter's University flat. Because she had a trip system I was able to experiment by isolating all other items from the supply. The printer still blew - i.e faulty. I tried to return it (after 10 days from inital ordering). It took several phone calls and emails and more than two weeks to get a RMA from them. To add insult to injury - when they did deem to accept it back, they insisted it was not faulty and refused to refund me unless I paid the return postage. I have bought several items from them before with no problems but you judge customer service by what happens when things go wrong.

​The difference that a SSD makes is nothing short of remarkable and unforgivable in a modern machine. Offering the customer a humble 128gb SSD is much better than a bloody awful 1tb HDD. I fitted a 128gb in my wife's five year old i5 Dell Inspiron after upgrading my Yoga Pro 900 to 1tb SSD and it transformed the old Laptop. By far and away the best and most cost effective way to make an average unit feel special. Anyone who thinks otherwise obviously hasn't experienced the difference that a SSD makes.

You're very welcome but I feel you flatter me with the comparison. Really, it's something that wouldn't have needed saying if it weren't for the fact someone said prices were going to drop.

As for the analogy, there aren't many cars that aren't a barrels of laughs on a track day, especially rear wheel drive ones. For what it's worth my mx-5s were more fun than my current z4m simply because they were a lot cheaper, both to buy and to run.

Gaming on a laptop?

What a waste of money.

Its back to £599 now. Expired!!!

Jeremy Clarkson a hairdresser. Hmm I just don't see it :wink:

Depends what M.2 SSD you're buying. These for example aren't cheap:



Does this have an M.2 slot as well as a HDD bay? If it doesn't, ideally you'd want a larger capacity SSD, and for a 500GB M.2 SSD you will be looking at over £200 for that.

If it was 550 again, I would consider buying that

I haven't been able to find a single laptop with that iGPU. The only easily obtainable device with the 580 is the Skull Canyon NUC.

​From what I have just read it seems that i7 6770 with this iGPU is identical to the i7 6700 which has a lesser iGPU. So vendors have no reason to usr the 6770.

But the good news I suppose is that my assumption that the Iris would be similar in performance to the 950m seems to be wrong at least in one well known measure.

notebookcheck says
"Nonetheless, a standard GTX 950M is still significantly ahead of our Skull Canyon system by almost 90 percent according to 3DMark Fire Strike."