Lots of people having a meltdown over 1080 screens
Thought I'd throw this in and see how it goes
Apparently I get a hat from some dude on here! (bonus!)
i5 (6th Gen) 6200U / 2.3 GHz (2.8 GHz) / 3 MB Cache
Memory8 GB DDR4
Storage256 GB - M.2 SSD
Optical DriveDVD SuperMulti
Display15.6" WLED 1920 x 1080 / Full HD
GraphicsIntel HD Graphics 520
Battery4-cell - up to 8.25 hours
Top comments
shahidali47
31 Dec 168#2
ppl gonna have another meltdown they're gonna want 4k now.
nice find heat from me
poison3k to pcfarrar
31 Dec 163#14
yeah and its only an i5 would be better if it was an i7.
Integrated graphics too (oh the humanity!), would be better if it had a gtx 1080 and a free Ferrari thrown in!!!
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Akaikonig
13 Jan 17#35
Defo a lot of screen snobbery here. I'm looking for something to produce music on so the screen is my least important part, the amount of ram on this is good and it's ssd so looks like a great deal to me.
smokenlazer
13 Jan 17#34
I have this exact model. I paid about £470 from HP website. Accept mine come with windows 7. (I dislike windows 10 regarding privacy)
fr0d0
6 Jan 17#33
Businesses were waiting for Server 2016 to fully control Window 10.
Says Windows 7, but photo on site shows different version.
Also, isnt Windows 7 having all support dropped soon?
TheVeryMan to tumbleweed34
5 Jan 17#30
Specifications - Win 7 Pro 64-bit (downgrade from Windows 10 Pro 64-bit) + Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Licence
Think you're ok, lots businesses like to drag on with 7 as long as poss but move to 10 when forced, lowers IT support costs probably.
Proveright
5 Jan 17#26
Cold its a BT, Bl**dy Terrible company.
lemongrab to Proveright
5 Jan 17#28
Hahahahaha I see what you did there, oh very clever....:stuck_out_tongue:
jasee
5 Jan 17#27
The resolution is good, but it still seems a little overpriced. Perhaps everything has gone up post brexit
Jonnyblock
5 Jan 171#25
It's not about screen snobbery. All the screens should be full hd by now, it's not 2001.
Jonnyblock
5 Jan 17#24
Jeez what about mobile phones?
Akaikonig
4 Jan 17#23
Defo a lot of screen snobbery here. I'm looking for something to produce music on so the screen is my least important part, the amount of ram on this is good and it's ssd so looks like a great deal to me.
kaiyt
3 Jan 17#22
Is this decent for playing games on? (say civ 5, maybe XCOM not the Witcher 3 or Battlefield)
This doesn't say anything about the screen being full HD... that seems to be the difference ?
adamski8080
1 Jan 17#17
Not 8k ultra ultra ultra HD. Disappointed.
pcfarrar
1 Jan 17#16
The Lenovo E560 with FHD IPS panel was available for £450 earlier in the year, similar spec to this one but had a 192GB SSD. I bought a few at work and they were good machines.
HP 250 G5's are the main laptops I've been buying at work recently. The FHD TN panel isn't too bad, it's definitely a big improvement over the stock screen.
sproutratty
31 Dec 161#15
FFS it's only got 2 cores.... it's good, but it's not right.... :confused:
pcfarrar
31 Dec 162#3
It's a TN panel would be better if it was IPS or VA.
pw26228 to pcfarrar
31 Dec 162#5
Can you post the link for those ones at a similar price. Thanks in advance.
K1LLER HORNET to pcfarrar
31 Dec 161#11
So close.
768 vertical resolution has been around for over 10 years now. It hampers productivity compared to a higher res panel and should have been retired years ago.
If you can't get along with 1080p @ 14" you probably need glasses.
poison3k to pcfarrar
31 Dec 163#14
yeah and its only an i5 would be better if it was an i7.
Integrated graphics too (oh the humanity!), would be better if it had a gtx 1080 and a free Ferrari thrown in!!!
K1LLER HORNET
31 Dec 16#13
Then you better stock up on the poor resolution machines while they're here as going forward screen resolution is only going to go up.
Gkains
31 Dec 161#12
Thanks :wink:
But my point was that there are plenty of people who do not along with 1080P on a 14" screen. Which is why I called the HUKD attitude resolution snobbery.
I would put it differently: using 1080P for years on small screens will ruin anyone's eyes so they will require glasses sooner than later!
Well here's a NBC review of what sounds very similar (BT Shop don't seem to show the actual model number): http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-250-G5-SP-X0N33EA-Notebook-Review.181969.0.html
Obviously a cheap plastic notebook which is not too serviceable (while Elitebooks look similar they have a service door, are metal and they cost a lot more).
Still it does have a service manual which should answer most questions about DVD bays, M.2, 2.5", RAM slots etc.: http://h20565.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?sp4ts.oid=10180321&docLocale=en_US&docId=emr_na-c05087748
While it looks like NBC didn't open theirs, they do mention that adding a second SoDIMM would improve the iGPU score so it most likely has two slots. Only 2.1KG which is not bad for a 15.6" laptop.
joeybutterface
31 Dec 16#8
Cracking price for this device.
LankyChris
31 Dec 161#7
Looks like a good find and ticks all my boxes (15", 1080, SSD, Edit: under £500).
Anyone found any reviews of it yet or have experience of this model?
Also wondering if the RAM can be easily upgraded in the future, or if it would be easy enough to replace the optical drive with a hard drive for extra storage?
Gkains
31 Dec 16#6
Well, the resolution snobbery does seem to be crazy here on HUKD.
Yes, 1366*768 is a bit low these days for anything larger than 12", but higher is not always better.
Had this 14" 1080P IPS Elitebook at work and nobody could get along with that screen - even I hasten to add the eagle-eyed youngster who claimed near 20/20 vision...
I can only imagine that 4K on a 14" laptop would be really terrible for anything which doesn't scale. And if you are forced to run at (for example) 150% DPI scaling, then the extra resolution is wasted and just drains the batteries (yes, higher resolution screens generally need brighter backlights so they use more energy).
I actually have a 15.6" Thinkpad T530 which is 768P. That is a bit small and have been contemplating doing an upgrade but am torn between 1080P and 900P. 1080P on a 15.6" is not to dissimilar to 900P on a 14" and I find that a good compromise between screen res and being able to read stuff.
spannerzone
31 Dec 161#4
Hmm I really wanted a cheaper machine, £105 less, with lower resolution but damn, now I have a choice instead of moaning about a lower priced laptop not having full HD.
HOT FROM ME :wink:
shahidali47
31 Dec 168#2
ppl gonna have another meltdown they're gonna want 4k now.
Opening post
Thought I'd throw this in and see how it goes
Apparently I get a hat from some dude on here! (bonus!)
i5 (6th Gen) 6200U / 2.3 GHz (2.8 GHz) / 3 MB Cache
Memory8 GB DDR4
Storage256 GB - M.2 SSD
Optical DriveDVD SuperMulti
Display15.6" WLED 1920 x 1080 / Full HD
GraphicsIntel HD Graphics 520
Battery4-cell - up to 8.25 hours
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nice find heat from me
Integrated graphics too (oh the humanity!), would be better if it had a gtx 1080 and a free Ferrari thrown in!!!
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http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lenovo-310-full-hd-laptop-i5-7200u-latest-gen-fast-ddr4-8-gb-ram-1tb-hdd-128gb-ssd-2593860
Also, isnt Windows 7 having all support dropped soon?
Think you're ok, lots businesses like to drag on with 7 as long as poss but move to 10 when forced, lowers IT support costs probably.
Googling this brings up what looks like the same machine on some other sites:
* £461.98 - Ordered on Request - https://www.pcworldbusiness.co.uk/catalogue/item/P243692P
* £549.97 - in stock - http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/hp-250-g5-intel-core-i5-6200u-8gb-256gb-ssd-dvdsm-windows-7-pro-15.6-inch-f-x0n33ea/version.asp
* £439.97 - currently not available - http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/X0N33EAABU-HP-250-G5_1959038.html
* £471.70 - in stock - https://www.technoworld.com/hp-250-g5-x0n33ea-abu-core-i5-6200u-8gb-256gb-ssd-dvdrw-15-6in-bt-cam-win-7-10-pro
So BT seems to be the cheapest it can currently be ordered from since it's out of stock on saveonlaptops.
There's also some info on it on the HP German site. It seems to say it has 2 ram slots but they're not accessible. I'm assuming that means you have to take the case off if you want to upgrade it:
http://www8.hp.com/at/de/products/laptops/product-detail.html?oid=11860985#!tab=specs
http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/hp-250-g5-core-i5-6200u-8gb-256gb-ssd-dvd-rw-15.6-inch-windows-10-laptop-x0q78es/version.asp?refsource=Ldadwords&gclid=CJDS4pWgotECFVU_Gwodh5kDwQ
HP 250 G5's are the main laptops I've been buying at work recently. The FHD TN panel isn't too bad, it's definitely a big improvement over the stock screen.
768 vertical resolution has been around for over 10 years now. It hampers productivity compared to a higher res panel and should have been retired years ago.
If you can't get along with 1080p @ 14" you probably need glasses.
Integrated graphics too (oh the humanity!), would be better if it had a gtx 1080 and a free Ferrari thrown in!!!
But my point was that there are plenty of people who do not along with 1080P on a 14" screen. Which is why I called the HUKD attitude resolution snobbery.
I would put it differently: using 1080P for years on small screens will ruin anyone's eyes so they will require glasses sooner than later!
http://uk.crucial.com/gbr/en/compatible-upgrade-for//hp-250-g5--%28intel-core-i7-6500u---i5-6200u%29
Max 16GB is surprising since I though that most DDR4 systems should be able to take 2x16GB
http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-250-G5-SP-X0N33EA-Notebook-Review.181969.0.html
Obviously a cheap plastic notebook which is not too serviceable (while Elitebooks look similar they have a service door, are metal and they cost a lot more).
Still it does have a service manual which should answer most questions about DVD bays, M.2, 2.5", RAM slots etc.:
http://h20565.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?sp4ts.oid=10180321&docLocale=en_US&docId=emr_na-c05087748
While it looks like NBC didn't open theirs, they do mention that adding a second SoDIMM would improve the iGPU score so it most likely has two slots. Only 2.1KG which is not bad for a 15.6" laptop.
Anyone found any reviews of it yet or have experience of this model?
Also wondering if the RAM can be easily upgraded in the future, or if it would be easy enough to replace the optical drive with a hard drive for extra storage?
Yes, 1366*768 is a bit low these days for anything larger than 12", but higher is not always better.
Had this 14" 1080P IPS Elitebook at work and nobody could get along with that screen - even I hasten to add the eagle-eyed youngster who claimed near 20/20 vision...
I can only imagine that 4K on a 14" laptop would be really terrible for anything which doesn't scale. And if you are forced to run at (for example) 150% DPI scaling, then the extra resolution is wasted and just drains the batteries (yes, higher resolution screens generally need brighter backlights so they use more energy).
I actually have a 15.6" Thinkpad T530 which is 768P. That is a bit small and have been contemplating doing an upgrade but am torn between 1080P and 900P. 1080P on a 15.6" is not to dissimilar to 900P on a 14" and I find that a good compromise between screen res and being able to read stuff.
HOT FROM ME :wink:
nice find heat from me
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