I can assure you that this it is how it works. My dissertation was on 3D rasterisation - I am quite literally qualified to comment on this. :man:

If you don't have four years to spare for an Honours Degree, you might still be able to get your head around the numbers (although I don't hold out much hope for you). Here, this came up first in a Google search, and shows the differences in practice rather than theory. Plenty more here, too.

Yikes... this comment makes my head hurt. If you have evidence to support this "speculation", please do share - I'd be very interested to read it myself. But if you're correct, and it's pure speculation with nothing to back it up, what the hell was the point of sharing something so insubstantial? There's been speculation that AMD uses child labour, for example, but it would be ludicrous to go around spreading that rumour on sites discussing graphics cards without any evidence.

Unless... are you referring to the 3DMark incident in 2003?!?! :confused: Both NVIDIA and ATi were accused - and guilty - there! But that's hardly "speculation", of course. :laughing:

Cos it's barely any faster than a GTX 950, that itself is barely any faster than a GTX 760, that itself is slower than a GTX 670, which you can buy for £50.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&LH_ItemCondition=3000&_nkw=gtx+670&_sop=15

Graphics cards have been mostly stagnating for a few years now, it's a whole world of re-labellings of older products out there.

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Only reasons to buy this: if you have a low output PSU you can't change, want to save the planet 1 watt at a time, die of fright at the thought of not having a warranty, kid yourself it's better cos more RAM (when looking at a 1920x1080 monitor - long standing ploy with budget gfx cards, give them more ram!), or can't fit in a still modestly sized older/higher model graphics card.... can't think of much else.

If you want something cheaper *and* faster, then either a Radeon 290 is a few quid under this and substantially more powerful, or a 290x is about the same price and even-more-substantially so. Or spend the extra tenner and have a brand new RX 470 the next time it pops up on hukd cheap :smiley:

My son has just asked for a GTX1070 for Christmas, I didn't know video cards went that pricey. Glad he didnt ask for a 1080. Gulp

Amazon has price matched, though out of stock until December 11th.

damn, how is the 1050 this cheap already :smiley:

Used Flubit and managed to get the Gigabyte 1050Ti D5 mini last week for 134.87 with free delivery.

Just checked with Flubit on this card and its 132.56 incl delivery

My son has just asked for a GTX1070 for Christmas, I didn't know video cards went that pricey. Glad he didnt ask for a 1080. Gulp

because the 980ti is better

I suppose why this interests me anyway is that the 1050 TIs are the lowest 'VR-capable' Nvidia cards of this generation

Anyone running this on a vive headset ?! Got a vive for my lad for Xmas but will be running it off my gaming rig with a 10m active HDMI cable but really need to build a new mini itx rig for it.

This price seems to be average price for this card. cant see the deal unless I am missing some thing? Custom PC recommends the Geforce 1060 3GB as a mid priced card (gold award) if that helps anyone although its priced at £200 ish

That is a 1050 and NOT a 1050 Ti

it's a 1050 Ti
as i understand 1050 only has 2GB so if it comes with 4GB then it's the Ti version

Does the RAM make a huge difference on graphics card these days? I see most people recommending 6GB at minimum these days if you want to play latest games. This I guess will be good enough on medium-high settings on most games?

​I'd go with the reviews of Custom PC magazine the 3GB out performed ATI cards with more ram. December issue has benchmarking for the card. I think the 1060 also will support VR where the 1050 won't. Thinking for reasons of future proofing

Would this card be a good upgrade from a gtx 960?

If you're after something with a bit more power check the Amazon Warehouse, some very decent deals to be had. I'm using a Gigabyte 980Ti that I bought for £155 from there.

ebuyer customer support non existent - dont do it!

But did they test properly? Most websites check just average frame rate, which is not enough, as it does not reveal performance in full. Did they test GTX1060 3GB at Doom Vulkan, did they check image quality in Gears of War 4, stuttering in Forza Horizon 3, much lower minimum fps in Mordor, Mirrors Edge, etc.? It is like a difference between having a car with an engine running smoothly, vs a car that is almost as fast but often stutters and loses power for parts of a second. Similar speed, but very different pleasure to drive.

It's also worth noting that Nvidia has far superior memory compression to AMD. The 3GB 1060 shouldn't be much more memory-constrained than a 4GB 470/480. They'll both be bumping their heads on their VRAM limits at roughly the same time (I give it a year - but nobody knows the future, of course :wink:). If you want more future-proof than a 3GB 1060, you're looking at the 8GB 470/480 (or the 6GB 1060).

(Not sure if it's a technical error on my end, but your comment seems to cut off before your links to the reputable sites that tested the 3GB 1060 "properly"..?)

I use my GPU mainly for Premiere Pro, where I know that CUDA cores are important.. but my lowly GTX 660 has 960 cores, apparently, compared to the 1050 Ti's 768. Excuse my ignorance, but does this mean that I'm better off with the 660 in this respect?

Not really how it works, but anyway.

There is also the speculation that Nvidia have poorer quality images, whether this is due to sly underhanded tactics like using lesser quality textures, or simply due to over compression. Maybe its just bugs, who knows

Completely agree with neblogai. You can say "spend a bit more to get much more performance" until the cows come home, but in this case, if you can afford another £10 and have the power supply to cope, the recent AMD RX 470 deals at £149.99 provide a better buy in terms of £/fps (looks like approx. 20 - 25% overall improvement in many cases).

I can assure you that this it is how it works. My dissertation was on 3D rasterisation - I am quite literally qualified to comment on this. :man:

If you don't have four years to spare for an Honours Degree, you might still be able to get your head around the numbers (although I don't hold out much hope for you). Here, this came up first in a Google search, and shows the differences in practice rather than theory. Plenty more here, too.

Yikes... this comment makes my head hurt. If you have evidence to support this "speculation", please do share - I'd be very interested to read it myself. But if you're correct, and it's pure speculation with nothing to back it up, what the hell was the point of sharing something so insubstantial? There's been speculation that AMD uses child labour, for example, but it would be ludicrous to go around spreading that rumour on sites discussing graphics cards without any evidence.

Unless... are you referring to the 3DMark incident in 2003?!?! :confused: Both NVIDIA and ATi were accused - and guilty - there! But that's hardly "speculation", of course. :laughing:

From what I've seen, nVidia Pascal cards are about 10% efficient in memory use, as in 3GB nVidia Pascal~=3.3GB on AMD Polaris. And yes, 4GB AMD cards are also quite close to the limit. I guess it depends on software: some game developers might optimize games for 4GB VRAM- amount which is already popular for 2 GPU generations. Some might put VRAM limiters, which lower texture quality for lower VRAM use. Others will not care, use a lot of VRAM on Ultra settings and leave it to the user to drop game settings. And e-sports will probably still use 2-3GB at most. I can only guess which way most of the market will go.

Ooh, interesting - I haven't had any hard Pascal / Polaris numbers yet. Pascal's supposed to be a bump over Maxwell, which was eating Hawaii for breakfast, but I was suspicious of Polaris's alleged boost as they seem very focused on 8GB for their mid-tier cards. Have you been testing them yourself, or do you have a source?

I'm not sure how to answer that exactly, at least in a measured way! But I'll try.

I rendered an hour long video in 45 minutes the other day. If I could get that down to 20 I'd be pretty happy. Plus, smoother instant playback when I'm editing would be good, especially when I have a few effects on clips.

I don't ever use it for gaming, if that's relevant.

Please stop using GPU boss, it is terrible.

Look here: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_1050_Ti_G1_Gaming/8.html this page onwards should give you a fair idea of how it stacks up to the GTX 960.

Basically the 1050Ti is generally about 18% faster than a GTX 960. So probably not worth it unless you think you can get a decent price for your 960 on eBay.

I have not tested, nor have I any single source- it is just my observation made from reading performance reviews of latest games with VRAM usage numbers in them. It would be great if someone (->Anandtech) made a proper review.

How is this GPU compared to 780Ti would anyone recommend the leap right now?

It's important to note that one of the most compelling features of the 1050 (and 1050 Ti) is many of these cards don't usually require upgraded PSUs. They're very frugal with power, so they can generally be used in normal pre-built systems. They don't require an additional power cable plugged directly into the card.

(There are some exceptions as you can get 1050-based cards that require additional power, and you can get pre-builts that are so close to the edge on power consumption/power supply that there isn't enough power to spare.)

For lots of people, this is a great upgrade that will allow them to ascend into the glorious PC master race. A decent PC from the last couple of years, with one of these cards slotted into it, will leave any current gen console choking in the dust.

For a glorious master race, its members seem awfully insecure most of the time.

:wink:

We seek only to educate and enlighten the unascended console peasants, and help our fellow brothers and sisters know true glory at 1080p and beyond. It is our moral duty.

Why are you showing the ASUS version? This is the Gigabyte version, seen here: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_1050_Ti_G1_Gaming/

Don't do it - if you ever have to RMA you'll regret choosing eBuyer... if you want the card I would go for Amazon instead and wait the extra days.

It performs the same relative to other cards. :smile:

No one should buy the ASUS version of anything any way, their RMA issues are probably worse than eBuyer.

Thanks for the heads up!

Probably a stupid question, I'm a novice at this, why is the gtx 980 missing from that chart and how does that compare to this? I bought it 2 years ago and it still does me fine to be honest but seems like the cost is dropping if I wanted to upgrade?

On the Amazon link it only states is Gtx 1050 ? No "Ti" ???
Are we sure it's the same card?

Nvm the model numbers are the same

The GTX 980 is in the chart, just like the chart posted above, performs just above the GTX 1060 6GB card @159% relative performance to the GTX 1050 Ti.

Your only upgrade path is the GTX 1070, or wait for the AMD Vega release first for price drops.

I think it's been sadly overlooked in most reviews - and not just this year. It's generally only given a passing nod, if that.

Then again, I suppose it's a relatively niche interest. :wink: And I can't really complain - I have the time and money to run these tests myself, but I'd rather spend my time pursuing my leisure interests, so I can't really blame others for doing the same!

Would this work for Dell T20 home server?

Yeah but seems pointless to me.

Yup Eurogamer confirms this: digitalfoundry-2016-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-vs-6gb-review

I cant see the 980 in the tech power up chart but see it in the newer one, thanks.

My ASUS Gtx 760 card has recently failed on me after only 2 years. Is this worth picking up?

3 year warranty with Asus cards, submit an RMA to Asus along with proof of purchase.

Amazon warehouse are awesome, 2 people from here picked up gtx 1080's for under £150, I was also kinda lucky with my R9 Fury for £180, but would take a 980Ti for the same price anyday for that 6GB Vram :smirk:. I guess only thing you need is patience with warehouse deals, no point spending £240 for a midrange card, when you can get a high end/enthusiast grade card for less.

Do not get him a 1050, they are very different cards and the 1070 is a LOT more powerful

Does anyone know if this will fit in my amd fm2a88m-hd+ motherboard with a 500w power supply (noob here)

Voting hot, a great price and a good product.
I have the non-ti 1050 and if I'd have seen this card for this price I'd have bought it, probably.
Both are decent cards (for my gaming needs at 1080p).

If you really, really know exactly what features and functions you need from a gaming card then it's very possible you may want to pay more.
If, on the other hand, you just want to game and have "a computer" of between 2 and 5+ years ago, then you can be pretty confident a Geforce 1050 (either plain, or ti like this one) is a good choice.

I would wait until January when you can pick up a 1070 cheap :smile:

Blame AMD, their offerings this generation are awful. Review sites big them up as it's in their interest and we desperately need competition. The 460 is an insult, the 470 is barely cheaper than a 480. Shame they ruined AMD, loved my old 4670.

Unless your son is planning on 4k gaming, get a 6gb 1060, and save the £200 to upgrade in a couple of generations time. You'll be in tears when you see 1080s being sold for £250 or less in 18 months time.

PSU is fine. Depends on the case, if it's low profile or sff you'll need to wait for a low profile card (my htpc is low profile), otherwise this card should fit, it's not that big, even if you have a whacking great CPU cooler to keep your oven of an amd chip cool.

Agreed. Also, low profile versions of the 1050 range have now been announced so they should be available any time now

To be fair to ASUS I had to rma a monitor with them that had a really bad IPS glow. I had a replacement within a couple of days and it was hassle free. Might not always be the same for everyone but I had a good experience.

Yeah, that would be cool but not getting my hopes up. AMD need to release a decent card otherwise Nvidia will continue to have our pants down. 1070/1080 pricing sucks right now :disappointed:

Pity to any fool who buys this. So much worse product than Radeon 470.

Rubbish card. Nvidia had a 50% quicker card than 1050TI in 2010. Now it's almost 2017.
It's junk.

And how much was this card you talk of.... £140?

I have the GTX1070, and it is a terrific card. Yes, it is expensive, but it is worth it.

Consider the GTX1060 as a more affordable alternative, but it is also not quite as a fast. The GTX1050 here is even cheaper, and has some great stats, but for heavy 3D applications it is just not powerful enough.

The 470 costs £40- £60 more than this. It's better than the cheaper 460 but not as powerful as the more expensive 470. So from a price to performance aspect this is about right.

Just report him and move on. HUKD is rife with trolls now-a-days.

​STILL? I haven't bought anything from them since 2002 when I had to be on hold for 3 hours to get through to their one support person to get an RMA for a return!

Your 2010 card will be brilliant in a htpc where it'll be nice and quiet, sipping energy from its modest 200w PSU and getting about as warm as a cold cup of tea. Not.

cool

geforce

How is this card better than older gpu's like R9 280x?

It is a bit slower, except where 4GBs of VRAM are needed.

I need to upgrade my ancient graphics card. Would this be good enough to handle the latest Doom game?

Yes, certainly. Although RX470 is just ~20% more expensive, but in DOOM- ~60% faster:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-geforce-gtx-1050-and-1050-ti-gaming-x-review,20.html

The Flubit price if anyone's wondering

nonono

Cos it's barely any faster than a GTX 950, that itself is barely any faster than a GTX 760, that itself is slower than a GTX 670, which you can buy for £50.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&LH_ItemCondition=3000&_nkw=gtx+670&_sop=15

Graphics cards have been mostly stagnating for a few years now, it's a whole world of re-labellings of older products out there.

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Only reasons to buy this: if you have a low output PSU you can't change, want to save the planet 1 watt at a time, die of fright at the thought of not having a warranty, kid yourself it's better cos more RAM (when looking at a 1920x1080 monitor - long standing ploy with budget gfx cards, give them more ram!), or can't fit in a still modestly sized older/higher model graphics card.... can't think of much else.

If you want something cheaper *and* faster, then either a Radeon 290 is a few quid under this and substantially more powerful, or a 290x is about the same price and even-more-substantially so. Or spend the extra tenner and have a brand new RX 470 the next time it pops up on hukd cheap :smiley:

what makes tis better than

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Palit-GeForce-1050Ti-StormX-Graphics/dp/B01M2ZC61B/ref=pd_vtph_147_bs_lp_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=48XBN442GXA3MWMXBAEX

or this

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/zotac-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-mini-4gb-ebuyer-134-99-2534735

?

Bigger cooler, higher factory OC.

Mine too, just had to take a deep breath and fork over £420.......

mate don't wave honours degrees please... plenty of honours from my class couldn't even install RAM module at the end :wink:

having degree = means nothing
just support your arguments with fact and move on :smiley:

nice find op, thanks

Lol @ having a degree meaning nothing.

Hahahahahahaha.

Except his degree dissertation was very specific to what he was talking about.

That still doesn't mean he could change a RAM module, but he should know about the subject he spent time specifically reading.
At some point the person becomes the knowledge, not just some text.

Absolute madness why anyone would buy this and not an RX 470 that is like 30-50% faster. Don't be dumb people.

I have a degree and I concur that in its current state higher education has rendered most degrees borderline meaningless. Of course that is purely down to the actual degree and where it's obtained.

For £140? WHERE? Because that's my current budget to upgrade my HTPC and I can't find one for that price.

The cheapest non-reference non-blower-type cooler RX470 I can find is this: http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_53313.html and it's £177.80 delivered which is 27% more expensive.

If you look here: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_1050_Ti_G1_Gaming/29.html the RX 470 on average is only 24% faster, not 30-50%.

Disclaimer, I'm not a fanboy. I have been using AMD (and ATi) stuff since a lot of people on this forum were in nappies. My first GPU was a Matrix Mystique and then I moved to a ATi RAGE 128. It's about value and pricing segments. The GPU in my main rig is a R9 290x.


Alright, but most people aren't doing degrees in Hospitality at the University of Lincoln.

I have to say my recent ebuyer experience was a very happy one.
I bought an Asus Z170-E motherboard which is quite picky about the type of RAM it will work with, ebuyer sorted out the return & replacement without anything but quick, proper, helpful & sympathetic customer service.
No complaints here.

No that TPU link actually shows the 470 as more than 30% faster as the scale there is not 0-100% but 70% to 256%. In this scale 100% to 124% is not 24% faster. Also, and just as importantly, that chart compares an overclocked custom 1050 Ti to a reference 470. Reference to reference the gap is at least 30%.

You can get the 470 for £172 on a quick browse, I'm sure you could get one cheaper still: https://www.alternate.co.uk/Sapphire/Radeon-RX-470-NITRO+-Graphics-card/html/product/1305858?campaign=Graphics+card/Sapphire/1305858

This particular model of 470 would absolutely wipe the floor with a 1050 Ti several times over as well.

I think you misunderstand that scale. It normalises the speed of each card compared to the 1050 Ti so in fact it is 24-26% faster?

I'm a self confessed noob in this and frankly find the price of a graphic card can be so expensive! :disappointed:

Trying to build a decent gaming desktop as well as using it for video editing. Is this card "ok" with an i5 processor?

Thanks in advance...

Er? Except the GTX 1050Ti is the middle of the scale so to speak at 100%, all other scores are relative to the GTX 1050Ti tested.

"Each chart shows the tested card as 100% and every other card's performance as relative to it."



I'm not trying to argue that the RX 470 isn't a better card, because it is better. What I'm saying is for the price the 1050 Ti is a fine card. Yeah, you're not gonna be playing new AAA titles at max settings but for £140 for playing older games and for eSports? It's ideal.

The RX 470 is a step up again, where it's performance splits the difference between the 1050Ti and the 1060 3GB.

Also trying to argue it's "only" a little bit more money, well that falls flat for me really. Since why stop at the RX 470? The RX 480 or GTX 1060 is "only" a little bit more money.

If you're just video editing don't bother with a GPU, just buy the most high-end i7 you can afford. Preferable 6 cores or more.

Better do not buy anything just now- this winter Zen CPUs with whole new architecture are coming to market (and we had no new arch in 6 years or so). It is better to wait a month or two, as these processors should finally bring some change to CPU market.

Yeah but it's a little bit more money for a LOT more performance. Again, you were comparing a custom overclocked 1050 Ti to a reference 470 as well. The difference between the two is actually 29% using TPU's own numbers.

I just think if you are spending £140, which is a decent chunk of change, you might as well get the card that can play games at high settings (the 470) and not one that is seriously gimped in several ways. Look at how the 1050 Ti performs in the big new PC releases like COD, Battlefield 1, Deus Ex, Titanfall 2 etc. Not pretty. Now compare how the 470 performs. It's night and day for £30 more.

I have a pretty old Radeon 6950 (ok maybe very old...). I have been completely out of touch with graphics technology, how much of an upgrade would this be?

Yeah, but you don't buy this class of card for AAA titles. You buy it for older games and eSport titles. It's the same class at the RX 460. The 1050 Ti is at the very top end of these types of budget card.

And £30 more? Why stop there? Why not spend £10-20 more and get the RX480?

Your budget has to stop somewhere, for some people £30 might be a lot of money. When you're building a budget gaming rig that could be the difference between having 4GB of RAM in your system or 8GB.

@ollie87 @neblogai ... Thanks!!! How do you know all these?? :smiley:

Will wait till after Christmas and see what comes next... Cheers...

If it's as fast as the Intel chips, it'll cost the same as the Intel chips. I don't really see how it'll shake things up. AMD will need to recoup their development costs.

Yeah it will have to beat it convincingly, if it gets close to Haswell/Skylake levels it can only undercut it with lower price points for each model.
IF AMD can offer a 6/8 Core CPU that can beat an i7 Haswell/Skylake for same or cheaper price then that is a good start.

AMD has been bleeding cash for many years now, it has to start making profits soon.

Expect Haswell/Haswell Refresh performance for Haswell/Haswell Refresh money. AMD has been on a track of over-promise and underdeliver for a while now.

A fairly reasonable upgrade.

If you do go for it, use a tool like this: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html to remove your AMD drivers before installing it.

AMD has a lot of production capability, but even Zen cut down by half (4c/8t) is like Intel i7- which is too expensive for most of the market. So AMD will have a product which it can make cheap, and no other product at $200-$500. They are sure to offer processors at lower prices just to sell the chips they can produce.

How much of an improvement can I expect if I upgrade my sapphire r9 280 to this with an i5 4670k processor?

Hi all not knowing much about this, my son asked for this for christmas which i bought....Gainward GeForce GTX 970 Phantom 4GB - graphics cards (Active, NVIDIA, GeForce GTX 970, GDDR5, PCI Express x16 3.0, 2x 6-pin)

I assume this one on offer is better?? (only basing that on it being a higher number)....any help is appreciated

thanks

No - numbers mean nothing! :smile: 970 is the last range of model but is actually a more powerful card

There's a way to experience that expert level of tutoring by visiting Coursera and eDx sites. You can take courses with the same level of education from Standford, Mit, Oxford and other great Universities, you can get certifications too. Whether this actually counts toward anything I have no idea. I just do whatever interests me, knowledge is always useful.

https://www.coursera.org/

https://www.edx.org/

Is your R9 280 a 2GB model? Then ~10% in titles that do not use much VRAM, ~30% and more even frame rate in titles that do. RX470-RX480 and up to double the frame rate is a much better upgrade choice.

It's the 3GB version. Thanks for the recommendations I'll take a look at them now

Hey its me ur son!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEw3CaNSbUo, also factor in the price of freesync vs gsync. Adaptive sync makes you basically go virtually almost a full tier up in experience.

*£155*? That's a 600-quid card currently (I'd expect it to be around 400-450)

Yes, that's what I did. Don't you know what a link is? Or is some of the writing on the other side confusing you? Copy and paste the bits with which you're having difficulty, and I'll do my best to try to dumb them down even further.

Ironically enough, I also asked you to support your arguments with facts - where is the evidence or source for your "speculation" about Nvidia's image quality? Or were you genuinely referring to that 2003 incident, and just too embarrassed to admit it? :innocent:

Indeed, as we're asking each other to support our arguments with facts, I'd be delighted to know what you mean by memory compression not working that way. In what sense? That is, if you're not too busy writing comments elsewhere on the Internet about how aliens built the Pyramids, there was no Moon landing, and, of course, the truth about 9/11. :laughing: Who needs expertise when you can make empty, meaningless comments and then run away?

Meaningless comment, eh?

It's been on sale for £300 and £350 several times, it's definitely not a 400-450 card any more. :smiley:

If I could pick that up for even 200, I would buy it instantly!

Your avatar = Awesome.

"I have a degree and I concur that in its current state higher education has rendered most degrees borderline meaningless."

I think you're proof that it doesn't always work, but certainly not proof that it rarely does. How are you more uniquely qualified to comment on anything other than your own experience?

I graduated in 2002 with a 2:1 degree. This does not mean that I can take on the world or instantly earn £100k a year. But it does mean that my mind has been broadened - both educationally and, yes, socially - so I know and understand the world more than I personally otherwise would have, and have also demonstrated that I have the ability and desire to learn beyond standard schooling.

Same, if I can get the G1; It'll go next to the G1 that I already have :smile:

Is the 1060 6GB worth the extra? eBay says I could get £80 for my 270X so I'm thinking about upgrading.

Sorry back on topic :stuck_out_tongue:

IMHO yes you should pay a bit more even for the GTX 1060 3GB with lower ram.

It is worth to change it, as 270X is very old AMD GCN1 architecture, and is being left out of AMD goodies coming with drivers to GCN 2-4, and recent games often do not support async or even DX12 at all on it.

Indeed, I read yesterday of the leak coming from AMD about their new performance drivers for GCN 1.1 cards... the 270x is GCN 1.0 soooooooo. I'm think about about cashing out now rather than lose a possible £20-£30 quid on eBay. Just let me get the Christmas shopping out of the way and I'll see what's left for little old me!!

I have a GTX 950, looking to upgrade. Looked at this, but for the price I may as well put down another £30 or so and get an RX 470.

Heat though.

Don't see the point in this card! Low end gaming already, 6 months won't have a hope!

Isnt this the same thing and even a few quid cheaper ? Plus nto from Mamathon ...

Your text here

Unfortunately I wasn't lucky enough to get the G1, mine is a wind force 3x, still runs Battlefield 1, Fallout 4, Witcher 3 etc at 1440p ultra above 60fps!

I took advantage of the recent 20% off offer for amazon warehouse and found a cheap card after monitoring it for a while.

1070s can be had at similar prices and I would prefer one due to the extra ram and slight more power (5%) or so I have read.

Best of luck!

The 1000 series has a few advantages, but I think the GTX950 is a perfectly fine GPU in the "value" segment, and there is very little reason to upgrade unless you want to go for a more powerful card (GTX1060 and up).

RX 470 is 20 odd quid more and 40% faster fyi. plus you support the underdog :sunglasses:

Sadly the RRP and actual street prices are two different things. It seems as though the going price of RX 470 is high than GTX 1050 at moment. Where as RX 470 are hovering around the £180 mark, the 1050 are mostly under the £150 mark. Also the 1050 does have a remarkably low Watts usage, and is DX 12.1 (vs 12.0 of the RX 470).
Dont get me wrong im actually an AMD / ATI supporter, always have been and most likely will always be. Just trying to remain unbiased (of thats possible lol)

It is true that nVidia got standard to DX12.1. But AMD has it's own hardware feature- asynchronous compute engines and more- which are not really the DX12 standard, but nevertheless are used by a large part of gaming industry (PS4, Xbox1, PS4 Pro and PC), and are exclusive to AMD. I bet nVidia would trade DX12.1 to get Async support if that was possible.

Best of luck to you if you need to RMA something that breaks after a few months - eBuyer will be deducting their 'fair' wear and tear fee off your refund.

Hi i have a Radeon R9 285 would the Ti 1050 be much faster?

They may give a 3 year warranty, but don't bother asking them to RMA as they don't do it. You have to keep the receipt of purchase and take or send it back to where you bought it from and RMA it that way.
And I know this as my ASUS GTX 970 Strix failed after 5 months and they wouldn't RMA it direct, and I didn't keep the receipt.
Managed to get a refund from Currys + money on top by contacting the Currys/PCWorld CEO directly.

I would NEVER buy another Asus product again as their Customer Service is non existant

No

This has been covered earlier in the thread.

1) No it isn't genuinely 40% faster
2) It's more than £20 more expensive

Heat added!x

Wow what a pain in the *$£, I'd still contact the retailer and get them to process the RMA, don't let Asus get away with it.

Just because I'm qualified to comment doesn't automatically mean I'm right. I'm only human. It's possible that the person without any content in their comments (not you, the other one) had a point about me being wrong. If they could share the details, it would be extremely useful in stopping me from spreading further misinformation, and letting everyone see things the right way. (I don't think that's likely, but you never know...)

Funnily enough, I was accepted onto a three-year course, with the plan being for me to work part-time to support myself through it. Sadly, my dad succumbed to cancer before I'd even arrived for my first year, so I ended up working full-time instead, so I could help out my mum and two younger siblings back home, and adjusted my course to be four years so it was workable. (Coincidentally, a lot of my friends took four years to do the same course - I think they just preferred the lifestyle, which I can quite understand. :wink:)

I'm pleased for you that mummy and daddy were able to help you out so much, though. Congratulations.

It has been this way since the mid-2000's sadly. The 1070 is a 1440p card though. Does he run a 1440p setup?

Some science degree courses last for four years as do courses that require work experience placement, hands-on training or overseas exchange. There are also part-time options to consider.

Don't assume and accuse too often because it makes you look like a fool.

Ughh, 1700 degrees? Really?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_sop=15&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=gtx%20770&LH_PrefLoc=1&_dcat=27386&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=2000%7C2500%7C3000

Faster. Half the price.

1) Second hand, no warranty
2) Bigger
3) Uses more power
4) Has a roughly 67% higher TDP
5) Doesn't support DX12
6) Requires an additional power connector
7) Doesn't have HDMI 2.0
:sunglasses: Nvidia gimps older cards with older architecte using drivers, for Nvidia, newer is always better

good find

You owned him dude, owned him!

http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3711/~/which-nvidia-gpus-will-support-dx12%3F
1) Half the price!
2) Half the price!
3) Half the price!
4) Half the price!
5) That's not what nvidia says - http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3711/~/which-nvidia-gpus-will-support-dx12%3F
6) 99p - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-2-Pcs-Dual-2x-Molex-4-Pin-to-PCI-E-6-Pin-Power-Converter-Adapter-Cable-/131704056511
7) You only need HDMI 2.0 for a 4k monitor past 30fps - and this card won't cope with gaming at that resolution anyway.

- If you want a good deal on a new card, you should find the extra for an RX 470 - check past deals on here to see what it gets to, it has been £149, it's often ~ £169, and often has a game you could flog to offset that.

- If you just want a good deal, then buy a used GTX 670 / 770, or R9 290 / 290X

This isn't really a deal, there's much better options to spend your money on. HUKD isn't a price comparison website - and even if it was, there's been better deals on a GTX 1050 Ti.

There's one right now, and it's actually in stock too. A whole 7p cheaper, or more if you can collect from huddersfield! http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/gtx-1050-ti-4gb-134-97-139-92-delivered-laptops-direct-2563923

is it worth jumping to this from a 660ti? or would a 1060 6GB be better long term value, i don't change cards very often.

No.


Yes.

half the price....
not everyone is comfortable with spending money on almost 4 year old card :smiley:
it's false economy, but each to their own :wink:

So be the savvy consumer, ditch any misguided brand snobbishness, and buy an RX 470 :smiley: Really no reason this is that hot.

Considering I had the information of the course completed. I wasn't assuming anything. Kind Regards, SniperViper.

I'm after a new PC tower that will come ready built. I've been looking on TechPowerUP but all answers for questions are in relation to the USA. Which is the best forum to ask for a 3 year future proof PC tower with good GPU, MOBO etc...? Looking to spend approx £1k

If you're happy to have a go at building (it's pretty easy nowadays) this is a great resource for good combinations, best prices and compatibility checking:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/guide/

If not, then keep your eyes peeled on HUKD for an i5 or i7 tower PC (not slimline), and budget to add a graphics card and potentially PSU.

Like this one, if you don't feel comfortable changing the PSU, it's low power consumption would make it a circumstance where I might recommend it :smiley:

(I'd recommend you changed the PSU too and buy a different graphics card though)

​I just read it will run battlefield on ultra @ 55 fps

is this a good upgrade from a 760 2GB OC edition? or should I just wait for 1060 6GB price to drop, I got 760 for £196 back in Feb 2014 and it still runs games at ultra 1080p with decent framerates.

Hi Ollie,
Could you explain further why GPU not required for video editing? Built an i5 6600 and looking for a GPU specifically for photoshop and video editing...

PM me for more detail, but it might sound counterintuitive, but the graphics card is a less important component when it comes to video editing and other creative work with most software compared to the CPU.

Vs other people who doesn't have a degree you may have a platform to stand on, sometimes...

I think if one also has a degree (especially in engineering/science), it honestly means next to nothing in the real working world... When you go look for a job, just remember not to hang that carrot too much as its honestly not that uncommon to have.
I went Masters in Electronic Engineering in the end, top 5 uni for the discipline in UK, still not "easy" to get a job, nor am I the "best" vs my peers who has been in the industry for long time... :smiley:

No.

PC gaming is pricey, especially when you go to the newest games. People think XBOX and PS4 take the crown at gaming quality, no chance, not even a sniff. Console gaming is mostly done by people sitting 4-6 foot away from a large TV. In PC gaming, you are enveloped. You have a 28" screen (or more) right in front of your face, running 4k. If you want to play PC games at their best (or at least almost) you're going to be looking at £1,000+ (and 1/2 of that will be on graphics) but its the cost of having a Ferrari.

Or it can be half as expensive if you buy smart, use 2560x1080 or 1440p screen with freesync and RX480 8GB, game settings not ultra but high (which looks the same), and then save 2/3 on games by buying them when they are fixed and modded.

ollie87, you seem like to go to person to ask! Trying to figure out if this would be a noticeable jump up from my gtx650 2gb, but coming up blank with my own research ...

I need a graphics card for my old Dell Vostro 260, that's currently running on the integrated one. Is this overkill? Will it work on 300W PSU. I don't do a lot of gaming, but I'd like something to dabble. Even Cities:Skyline won't run at the moment. Any advice?

With your current CPU, 1050Ti is a bit too much- better would be a used 750Ti 2GB if less than £70, new rx460 (no 6-pin model) for near £100, or GTX1050 2GB for about £100 as well (this card is great for Cities:Skyline). Just make sure you have enough system RAM (4GB might be enough for this game- not sure).
However you could also turn that PC into a fast computer capable of running latest games with just a bit of investment: ~50 pounds for a used i5 3470, £50 for a new powerful PSU, £50 for 8GB, and a GPU of your choice- 50-100 pounds to run any light modern game very well, or 150-200 to run any new game well.

Thanks, I went with the GTX1050 2GB mini on here for £107. Seems to meet my requirements, without being overpowered for my 300W PSU. I've just upped my RAM from 3GB to 6GB, and the motherboard will handle up to 8GB if I need it later. Altogether should have my system where I need it.

Ok, that's great about your degree not making it easy for you to get a job, but the original guy just claimed to know about 3D rasterisation because he wrote a dissertation on it. I think anyone who has researched a topic thoroughly enough to write several thousand words on it likely knows more than a random HUKD poster who hasn't. Not to mention the random poster gave no reason as to why the other guy was wrong.

This has nothing to do with industrial experience or the working world.

Think your missing the point, I'm a "random hukd poster". Nor do I specialise in this, but I'm sure after some Pm conversations; Ollie and I both learnt something new about gpu's even though he did a dissertation in it.

You finish your degree first, work for a bit, then think back at this question of what I'm trying to say...

just get a bloomin 1060

Just wanted to say a huge thanks. I followed your advice, got messed about a bit a little before it was decided that where I purchased it were responsible for dealing with my warranty, that was thankfully Amazon..and with the product being out of stock (obviously, its an old card now) they have issued me with a full £169 refund!! I basically just rented the card for two and a half years..amazing.

You are totally wrong there... "people who doesn't have".. does not pass application stage, and people who "doesn't" have a degree do not, or are less likely to pass application stage.

Your / you're ( pick the right / write one ) likely to miss the point here / hear I think

Well we will have to agree to disagree.

In my view, one poster (if to be believed) has produced an extended piece of work on the subject, which has been reviewed by someone likely with a PhD or similar in that field and likely with years of experience also. The other poster's only qualification and backup material were the words "no it's not".

nah I fancy a change, plus RX is cheaper

It will be, since the GTX 650 is old as the hills and wasn't that great even when launched.

which one is better? 980M or 1050ti ?

Last Week, I picked up from the Warehouse an [EVGA GTX 980 Ti FTW ACX 2.0+ 6 GB] Graphics Card, condition 'good' for £187, there was a small dent in the corner of the box, inside everything was pristine. If your after the best Amazon Warehouse deals i recommend checking out http://uk.theforklift.net .You need to be quick, as the best stuff is snapped up in seconds.

Very useful site, thank you.

Apart from the larger memory allocation (assuming you have a 2GB model), the performance is much the same.

Is this a worthwhile upgrade from a GeForce GTX 560 Ti? It's like 5 years old now. That said I can still run games like GTA V just fine.