This has had £5 knocked off the original price so I thought I'd give it a try.
I replaced a standard wall socket within 5 minutes.
The great thing about this is I can now power my chromecast audio with one USB socket, keep my phone charged with the other USB socket, power the stereo with the mains socket and still have a mains socket to spare.
Coincidentally, I put it on today, not because I knew about the plaster issue but because I needed more space behind the plate to run a new spur of it.
jh787
12 Dec 16#30
That little plastic is so they don't get manky after a few weeks by reacting to the plaster on the wall.
I'd put it on if I were you.
Do these sites flush or need a spacer or bigger back box
willpower to obsydian
5 Dec 16#28
Hi. These come with a black plastic spacer which I chose not to use as I wanted the plate which is very low profile, flat up against the wall.
luvsadealdealdeal
5 Dec 16#27
I did all the lights rewiring in the bathroom in my then flat back in 1996 - I was just hoping I got it right and used a diagram I found somewhere. All seemed to go OK but I was under the impression the regs changed so that bodgers aren't allowed to have a DIY go any more?
obsydian
5 Dec 161#25
Good find question though do these need a spacer or do they need a bigger rear plate to sit flush
Leftfield_2k2
5 Dec 16#24
I never said these USB sockets weren't safe, provided you buy from a reputable uk dealer (screwfix, toolstation, wicks, b&q ..etc) then all of these sockets would have had too have passed multiple British safety standards. Just don't go buying them on ebay as they could then come direct from china bypassing this safety net.
The real and serious problem comes from people who don't fully understand the dangers of a broken ring final, I bet the vast majority don't bother to run a continuity test afterwards at the CCU even if they knew how too!!!
Leftfield_2k2
5 Dec 16#23
As for the shared current, it should/would only share if you have both USB sockets drawing current simultaneously.
If you only have one device connected it should allow that device to draw up to the transformers max of 2.1A
118luke
5 Dec 16#22
Now then, re-read what you just wrote and work out what the problem is.
Answer: "insufficiently sized back box" is the problem there. Not the actual socket faceplate itself.
Yes i agree about the broken ring main that does constitute a fire risk, but that would go into the category as poor installation/incompetency. So anyone reading these comments should really make sure the backbox is deep enough before installing the sockets. And you also need to test the ring for continuity (obliviously disconnected from the mains). if in doubt, consult a local electrician.
Valiantcat
5 Dec 16#21
Is that 1.2A each or 1.05A each? Either way I would be going for the new 3.1A rated sockets also available.
wong_go_wild
5 Dec 16#20
fast charge shortens the battery life massively. slow charge is much better if you want longer battery. plus what does it matter if your phone is plugged in over night or just topped up over the course of a film.
Leftfield_2k2
5 Dec 16#19
I dread to think how many houses now have broken ring finals after 'have a go' diy enthusiasts try to cram a USB socket into a insufficiently sized back box!!
A broken ring final is a 100% fire risk!!!
Unless you fully understand what I've just said you really shouldn't be installing sockets unless they are on a radial !!
This is why amateurs shouldn't mess with electrics, the screw connections are not a sufficient method for bonding metal fixtures imho, you should be running a cpc/earth loop from the back-box earth terminal into the sockets earth terminal. And terminations should be doubled over for good measure
sparklehedgehog
4 Dec 16#1
Hope you earthed the faceplate
wong_go_wild to sparklehedgehog
5 Dec 16#18
the faceplate is earthed to the wall box via the two screws and the wall box should have been earthed. anyone changing the face plate should not need to earth it.
Valiantcat
4 Dec 16#3
2.1A rated for the USB.
G0OSE to Valiantcat
5 Dec 16#17
Shared, so 1.2A each - very slow.
MAdam98
5 Dec 16#8
If you check a previous HUKD post there are a few sparkies warning against these. For various reasons, including they are dangerous
jh787 to MAdam98
5 Dec 16#12
Thousands of sparkies would disagree...
s24adm to MAdam98
5 Dec 16#13
Not so much they are outright dangerous, just that it's akin to leaving a charger plugged in constantly and always-on. I would imagine and hope that Screwfix would sell a BS certified safe product that is not comparable to a cheap chinese charger that might blow up. Here's a wee article written a few years ago: http://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/mediafile/100145109/web_usb-article-from-so32.pdf
The LAP ones that screwfix sell look to be much higher quality (yet still cheap) than the ones noted in this article.
118luke to MAdam98
5 Dec 16#16
Im willing to put money on them being safer than cheap chinese plug-in chargers off ebay. Besides, until i start hearing about house fires that have occurred as a result of these being installed, ill put my trust in them being safe :smiley:
Bargain Hunters
5 Dec 16#15
I bought quite a few from screw fix when they were on offer 2 for £25. ( A permanent offer) hubby fixed them. Seem fine, look fine and work fine.
tehwabbit
5 Dec 16#14
It was the 2 pack of white ones at the weekend IIRC.
These look nicer though
phoebeolivia
4 Dec 16#5
Already been posted two for £11.99
rodman to phoebeolivia
5 Dec 16#9
liar
savsac29 to phoebeolivia
5 Dec 16#11
Where
ykhan16
5 Dec 16#10
Just to add if your wiring is old then the Red wire is L (live) and the Black wire is N (neutral)
sisqoboy2
5 Dec 161#7
I don't really see the point for this. anyway I need to use an extension lead so…
jarede
4 Dec 16#2
how easy are there to install, do you need to get a qualified electrician and how much would that cost (ish, as not a precise science)
You turn the power off unscrew everything and screw everything back in where you found it. Blue to N, Brown to L, yellow and green stripe to Earth it's a weird symbol though. I imagine an electrician would charge £50 to fit.
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I replaced a standard wall socket within 5 minutes.
The great thing about this is I can now power my chromecast audio with one USB socket, keep my phone charged with the other USB socket, power the stereo with the mains socket and still have a mains socket to spare.
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I'd put it on if I were you.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/bg-13a-2-gang-sp-switched-socket-usb-charger-outboard-rocker-white/8534f?cm_sp=homepage-_-home-_-8534f
The real and serious problem comes from people who don't fully understand the dangers of a broken ring final, I bet the vast majority don't bother to run a continuity test afterwards at the CCU even if they knew how too!!!
If you only have one device connected it should allow that device to draw up to the transformers max of 2.1A
Answer: "insufficiently sized back box" is the problem there. Not the actual socket faceplate itself.
Yes i agree about the broken ring main that does constitute a fire risk, but that would go into the category as poor installation/incompetency. So anyone reading these comments should really make sure the backbox is deep enough before installing the sockets. And you also need to test the ring for continuity (obliviously disconnected from the mains). if in doubt, consult a local electrician.
A broken ring final is a 100% fire risk!!!
Unless you fully understand what I've just said you really shouldn't be installing sockets unless they are on a radial !!
This is why amateurs shouldn't mess with electrics, the screw connections are not a sufficient method for bonding metal fixtures imho, you should be running a cpc/earth loop from the back-box earth terminal into the sockets earth terminal. And terminations should be doubled over for good measure
http://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/mediafile/100145109/web_usb-article-from-so32.pdf
The LAP ones that screwfix sell look to be much higher quality (yet still cheap) than the ones noted in this article.
These look nicer though