I rang Richer Sounds on 0333 900 0093 and notified them of the Hifonix price, they matched and then knocked off an extra £5 making it £374. This also makes 6 year supercare slightly cheaper too if you want to add that.
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Fully loaded with the very latest audio and video technologies, the AVR-X2300W delivers incredibly immersive surround sound, optimised via extensive sound tuning – not to mention plenty of amplifi er power.
Key Features & Benefits
- 7.2 channel AV Receiver with 150W per channel: Enough power to fill medium size rooms with unique Denon sound
- Built-in WiFi with 2.4GHz/5GHz dual band support; built-in Bluetooth: Improved network stability especially in WiFi-crowded homes
- 4K/60 Hz full-rate pass-through, 4:4:4 colour resolution, HDR and BT.2020: Latest HDMI standard for future-proof compatibility
- 8 HDMI inputs (incl. 1 front) with full HDCP 2.2 support; 2 HDMI outputs: Plenty of inputs for your digital devices; ready to feed a TV and projector in parallel
- Advanced Video Processing with 4K Scaling for HDMI sources: Full HD and even Ultra HD video quality from existing DVDs or other digital video sources
- Dolby Atmos (up to 5.1.2) and DTS:X (via firmware update): Blockbusting 3D sound with effects from overhead
- AirPlay, Bluetooth, Internet Radio, Spotify Connect, Network Audio Streaming: Access to almost unlimited online music sources
- DSD (2.8/5.6MHz), FLAC, ALAC, AIFF and WAV support: High Resolution audio streaming for HiFi enthusiasts, even gapless
- Audyssey MultEQ XT, Dynamic Volume and Dynamic EQ: Delivering perfect equalization for your individual room
- Colour-coded speaker terminals, Setup Assistant, Denon 2016 AVR Remote App: Hassle-free installation, setup and operation
- Intelligent ECO mode with off/on/auto setting: Energy-conscious without compromising on performance
Top comments
spritey to Krizzo3
26 Dec 164#26
Probably the first time I've seen somebody argue weight as an indication of quality of sound on an AV receiver, I actually let out a little giggle when I saw your post. Thanks for the entertainment.
spritey
29 Dec 163#73
ihotuk messaged me for some advice - but thought i'd dump it all here aswell for others.
First questions you’ve got to ask yourself with any speaker set is…
1. How big is my living room, basically how much space am I filling with sound
2. What kind of speaker do you want. Style? Bookshelf? Floor-standers?
MOST IMPORTANTLY. Goto the likes of Richersounds, ask them to setup the set in a demo room so you can hear it. Sound is such a subjective thing sometimes and these guys are happy to help you decide what you like best.
The first question will dictate to some degree the type of speaker you want, if you have a very large / gigantic living room then you’ll likely lean towards floorstanders / bookshelf style setup.
If however, like most people in the UK. It isn’t… Then it’s more a personal preference kind of thing. Now below I lean mean towards the style speakers, Monitor Audio or Dali will do you well at the “Big size” speaker side. Although you can get Q Acoustic floor standers to compliment a 2000 or 3000 series rear.
My favourite (Mainly as my last 2 5.1 sets have been KEF) – I’ve been using KEF 3005SE set for a number of years. I’ve also had the T205 set (£1.5 flat slim speakers) previously which I loved. If my KEF 3005SE broke, i'd likely replace them with the KEF E305 or buy another second hand set of the 3005SE. For me personally, they're my perfect 5.1 set.
Another great thing - speakers don't really become obsolete now.. Once you have a great set - you've got a great set.
Latest comments (85)
Dellsy
20 Feb 17#85
KEF Home theatre 1005.2 - it's an older range that I bought second hand from my mate who 'upgraded' to a BOSE Soundbar!
ihotuk
19 Feb 17#84
Thanks for updating the thread, what make and type of speakers are you planning to pair with this AV?
Dellsy
12 Feb 17#83
Purchased my Denon from Richer Sounds yesterday. Pulled in this deal when phoning them directly and they gave me a further £10 discount as I had a VIP voucher. Took out the 6 year extended warranty as they said if I don't make a claim I can have the money back!?!! Total price £405 - well happy!!
spritey
30 Dec 161#82
Na i get it mate, i think we're in agreement definitely. I just think some buyers could get a bit fixated on power output as an indication of a good or bad purchase - when in reality it's probably something that should be low on their list of priorities. Unless of course you got a big room for this and you're going all out :smiley:
One day... ONE DAY... I will convince my wife to let me convert our garage into a cinema room.
rev6
30 Dec 16#81
I am not saying people wouldn't be happy buying a cheap AV, I am talking about a future purchase. Just because a demo sounds good doesn't mean in the future you won't maybe add 2 extra speakers, or buy new ones. I am only adding to your "should I buy a cheap AV" info, not competing against it.
spritey
30 Dec 16#80
I think any issue with power output is likely to be identified with a demo, whack it up and see how comfortable you are with the sound levels. Given the typical sized living room in the U.K, i'd imagine most will be fine from an output perspective with even a £200-£300 AV Receiver.
rev6
30 Dec 16#79
Yeah I see now, I missed that.
You were talking about the negatives of spending less, which is around £200, £300, not £399. I am saying if you do buy a cheap AV, you might need to upgrade it when you upgrade speakers, as we all get that upgrade bug. The X1300 to the X2300 for example is 70W difference which is quite substantial. The X2300 and X3300 are the same though.
spritey
30 Dec 16#78
No i didn't, thats why i said amplification...
Again, this goes back to the original question though. Your living room size, i would argue that a £399 AV Receiver is going to be more than adequate for most people. I've had a pretty good living room size - i've never needed anything close to what my AV Receiver is rated at. A £200-£300 AV Receiver from an output perspective would also be the same, just lacks the features i want / need. Despite any advice people get on the internet about AV Receivers or Speakers, they should go demo them.
rev6
30 Dec 16#77
You forgot less power for the speakers, not that at that price you'd be too worried. It just means the next speaker upgrade might also require a new AV.
spritey
30 Dec 161#76
Another question i've had so dumping what i put on here;
Should i buy this or go for a cheaper AV Receiver?
You can get cheaper AV Receivers from the likes of Yamaha, Denon, Onkyo and Sony. Around the £200-£300 mark. You’re going to lose some stuff though;
- No DTS:X and Dolby Atmos (New Object based sound)
- No Wifi / Airplay
- Will be 5.1 and not 7.2
- Less HDMI ports and less HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2 ports
While DTS:X and Dolby Atmos are new – you want to future proof as much as you can with an AV Receiver as you don’t want the fuss of replacing it. Sure you may not need it now but in the future you may want to add some more speakers, if you a step down in the range you're limited what you can do without replacing it.
I spent £350 on my first ever AV Receiver, glad I did. At the £200-£300 range you’re losing some great features, at the £350-£450 range you’re getting those features and above than in cost you’re typically only getting more zones, amplification and perhaps THX cert (I over simplify but the reason this gets such good reviews and AV Receivers around this price point often do, is they offer great value for money on top of allot of stuff inside).
spritey
30 Dec 16#75
True you can spend less, think mine was around £20-£30 (It's a QED one). You don't want to buy a cheap £3-£5 sub cable, it's an analogue signal and you want something well shielded. Also depends on distance and where you want to place your sub, the position of your sub is quite important.
rev6
30 Dec 16#74
Plesse dont spend £40 on a sub cable :smile:
spritey
29 Dec 163#73
ihotuk messaged me for some advice - but thought i'd dump it all here aswell for others.
First questions you’ve got to ask yourself with any speaker set is…
1. How big is my living room, basically how much space am I filling with sound
2. What kind of speaker do you want. Style? Bookshelf? Floor-standers?
MOST IMPORTANTLY. Goto the likes of Richersounds, ask them to setup the set in a demo room so you can hear it. Sound is such a subjective thing sometimes and these guys are happy to help you decide what you like best.
The first question will dictate to some degree the type of speaker you want, if you have a very large / gigantic living room then you’ll likely lean towards floorstanders / bookshelf style setup.
If however, like most people in the UK. It isn’t… Then it’s more a personal preference kind of thing. Now below I lean mean towards the style speakers, Monitor Audio or Dali will do you well at the “Big size” speaker side. Although you can get Q Acoustic floor standers to compliment a 2000 or 3000 series rear.
My favourite (Mainly as my last 2 5.1 sets have been KEF) – I’ve been using KEF 3005SE set for a number of years. I’ve also had the T205 set (£1.5 flat slim speakers) previously which I loved. If my KEF 3005SE broke, i'd likely replace them with the KEF E305 or buy another second hand set of the 3005SE. For me personally, they're my perfect 5.1 set.
Another great thing - speakers don't really become obsolete now.. Once you have a great set - you've got a great set.
rev6
29 Dec 16#72
Need a sub too?
ihotuk
29 Dec 16#71
Good fine OP. Can anyone suggest a good pair of speakers to go with this AVR. I'm new to this game my budget is £500 to £750. Thanks
andyman5002
29 Dec 16#70
Received mine today. Brilliant bit of kit. Only issue I've since found is I can't run zone 2 speakers actively and use a set of Atmos speakers it seems? There's no dedicated zone 2 out like the onkyo I was looking at. Guess I'll need to use pre out and amplify this separately
rev6
28 Dec 16#69
Some are covered til 2018. I asked them which they had.
Babbler
28 Dec 16#68
Complain to onkyo they will sort it for you...
amoulden
28 Dec 16#67
No I got it yesterday lunch time. Don't think they even checked Hifonix website
rev6
28 Dec 16#66
Dare I ask how much you spend on wire? :smile:
spritey
28 Dec 16#65
When I started out in home audio around 9 years ago I had the same questions, you almost feel like "What? Wait? You want me to spend £300 on an AV Receiver and then £200 on speakers? Are you mad?"
Then when you do it, you get it... You get complete clarity of sound and bass,fantastic audio processing and all round next level experience when watching a movie or TV. Now I spend £400 on AV Receivers typically and my speakers with wire cost around £1000-£1200... I'd view them as a mid end setup...
Took me a while to convince my parents of the same, they'd come round our house and love it but without that direct comparison especially in your own environment you don't appreciate it... Now they'd never go back. Their AV Receiver stopped working one day, you'd think they'd just use the TV sound until they got it sorted? Nope, they felt the loss of that sound made it impossible for them to enjoy TV / Movies. So didn't watch anything till they got it sorted.
CashMc
28 Dec 16#64
After 5.2.4 :disappointed:. Hot though
wozwebs
28 Dec 16#63
Bought this on the 23rd for £399 in RS but guy threw in the 6 year warranty for free so cont complain.
volksdub
27 Dec 16#62
As already said, you will need to buy your speakers separately. But it would be worth it over the built in speakers. Even if you have Harmon Kardon built in your TV that won't compare to this amp even running a set of budget speakers.
volksdub
27 Dec 16#61
Bought the same TV in the Black Friday sale and bought this yesterday :smiley:
jay452
27 Dec 16#60
Oh ok I thought they put the price back up but you must've done it before
amoulden
27 Dec 16#59
Quoted Hifonix at £379 then they promise to beat a competitors price by £10 in this price range. I got it from the Leeds store
rev6
27 Dec 161#58
What do I win? :smiley:
rev6
27 Dec 16#57
What's so confusing about what I said? They can't have a sub. I said to buy speakers with some low end, not tiny satalites with a single driver. (150Hz but no lower). You brought up BK (20Hz) low-end not me.
rev6
27 Dec 16#56
Huh?
Rosco1112
27 Dec 16#55
I have some onkyo 5.1's but think they are bust as I have moved house with them 4 times and have been dropped a few times! The sub on the onkyo is massive and the wife hates it and won't allow it in the lounge due to its size and ugliness. I don't want to spend too much on the speakers but then I want a set which will justify spending this much on an amp so the best budget speakers with a smaller sub perhaps £200ish
rev6
27 Dec 16#54
You really need to give a budget. A sub is great. But without one. You'd want speakers with some low-end.
Rosco1112
27 Dec 16#53
What speakers would you recommend go with this amp? And would it be ok without a sub? As I don't really have anywhere to put the sub in the lounge
jay452
27 Dec 16#52
How?
amoulden
27 Dec 16#51
Just got one from Richersounds for £369
StolenDiagram
27 Dec 16#50
I didn't know what to expect, which is why I asked the question.
rev6
27 Dec 16#49
What did you expect? It's an AV receiver. Your speakers are already powered and fed audio, by the TV. This will support many different configurations, 5.1 being one of them, 2.0, 2.1, being others.
StolenDiagram
27 Dec 16#48
So I'll get literally nothing from this without a set of 5.1 speakers to go with it?
rev6
27 Dec 16#47
No :smiley:
StolenDiagram
27 Dec 16#46
Stupid question but I know nothing about amps. Am aware I will need to pair with a set of speakers to get the most from this, but will it do anything to my existing tv's built in speaker? I've got an LG uh850 so it has reasonably good Harmon kardon built in.
kialeekaylee666
27 Dec 16#45
This or the Yamaha 681 or the Onkyo, I can't decide! And would they be better a good replacement for a Marantz PM6005?
darrenjpowell
27 Dec 16#44
Good idea. I'll give hifonix a ring. I'll still probably buy from RS because of the 6yr supercars package. I've had to claim on it previously and they were great.
I'm still tempted by the Yam rx-v681 which is also £400. My mate bought the 681 on release date earlier this year for £600 and he is smitten. I can't find any decent reviews for it though.
Cheers
jay452
27 Dec 16#43
Damn missed this deal - have been waiting ages for a decent deal from RS.
o2y360
27 Dec 16#42
Why don't you call Hifonix? see if they'll honor the price from yesterday.
rev6
27 Dec 16#41
Which one?
darrenjpowell
27 Dec 16#40
Dang - When i looked this AM, Hifonix has put the price back up to £399.
I really wanted to take advantage of this as my trusty Onkyo has just died of the common HDMI board failure.
Donut dave
27 Dec 16#39
Yeah I see the good reviews . But what can it do that my Sony can't? Would I hear the difference?
Donut dave
27 Dec 16#35
I have a Sony Str dg 820 with Jamo a102?? I think speakers. What would this do for me? Would it be useful or a big improvement? Bear in mind, I haven't researched amplifiers since buying the Sony
Naruto to Donut dave
27 Dec 16#38
This amp is one of the best reviewed in the market right now
activ8me
27 Dec 16#37
7 HDMI Inputs, now that is great
matedodgy
27 Dec 16#36
like others, upgraded to this from a basic onkyo. finding it a bit quiet in comparison. though had to upgrade for Wi-Fi and dual HDMI out.
J88NYr
26 Dec 16#34
Hot! Have a 4100w with Monitor Audio Silvers, and its incredible. Far better than my old Onkyo TXNR 626. wasn't impressed with the Onkyo at all, sound was too harsh, surround didn't have as good as depth as my old Yamaha either, ran stupid hot, had to get repaired once where it started smoking! Replaced with the Denon AVRX4100w and it was a world or difference, surround was far more engaging, music was warmer and well rounded. Plus its zone functions work far better.
Denon all the way for me now.
spritey
26 Dec 16#33
Personally i've never had a bad Yamaha AV Receiver, it the 8 odd years of owning them. All been tops.
I only went for the Denon due to the Yamaha having limited HDMI 2.0 ports.
sprite127594
26 Dec 161#29
Personally if I was going to get a new AV receiver id go for the yam 681 at 399 which is the lowest I've ever seen it.
spritey to sprite127594
26 Dec 16#31
I've always gone for Yamaha AV receivers, would of gone for the 681 today if it wasn't for the fact only 3 of the HDMI connections are HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2. While strictly not a big deal, does seem strange.
Naruto to sprite127594
26 Dec 161#32
My mate bought that Yamaha and it seemed as though the sound struggled at loud volumes. Not tried this Denon but he bought the Pioneer and has not looked back.
solidstar007
26 Dec 161#30
This one or the PIONEER VSX1131? The pioneer has ProLogic IIx I don't think this does? Is this an important feature? Also I intend to connect it to my bose cube speakers will they be a good match? Any advice will be helpful guy.
Dellsy
26 Dec 16#28
I also have a rock solid ONKYO and it's been doing the business for years. I'm in a similar position. I don't need to upgrade but this is sorely tempting me!!! Just bought a new Samsung UE55KS7000 in the Black Friday sales ... can I justify the spend?
sprite127594
26 Dec 16#27
What's with the onkyo remarks. My old onkyo 606 kicks ass. Can't see this being any 'better' sound wise but obviously may sound 'different'
Krizzo3
26 Dec 16#23
Weight
Weight of unit, unboxed, in KG.
9.4
Don't be silly, audio doesn't take downsizing well.
My current receiver is around 22KG, transformer alone weights as much as this crap.
spritey to Krizzo3
26 Dec 164#26
Probably the first time I've seen somebody argue weight as an indication of quality of sound on an AV receiver, I actually let out a little giggle when I saw your post. Thanks for the entertainment.
andyman5002
26 Dec 16#25
Cheers OP! Bought! Got the extra warranty too so should be good listening for 6 years! They also took the extra £10 off
volksdub
26 Dec 16#24
Thanks OP. Price should be changed to £369. I added the 6 year supercare on top as I was going to pay the £400 anyway before I seen this.
oldskoo1
26 Dec 16#19
I have a new panny uhd with an old Sony amp and speakers. Sound is good/great
Everything is connected via oneconnect and I only use amazon uhd and Netflix uhd.
I don't intend to ever really use blu ray again.
Will this amp provide superior sound for me? Everything is on ARC.
The Sony is about 10 years old, will this denon be a big step up? What speakers are recommended, something compact ?
I bought this for 399 last month. Got it paired with a samsung 65" 7000 series and 7.2 from kef, It sounds great and is certainly future proof for the next five or six years at the least.
Similar to what some prosepective buyers on this thread have put, I upgraded to this from an onkyo for the 4k. I am so pleasantly surprised by the quality of the sound, nobody will be dissapointed and at this price it is too cheap not to if you are in the market.
doobyduck
26 Dec 16#7
Thank you OP. Could anyone recommend good speaker set to match with this
Babbler to doobyduck
26 Dec 16#20
Budget?
alexjameshaines
26 Dec 16#1
looks nice... I really need to not buy to replace my 6yo Onkyo.
sprite127594 to alexjameshaines
26 Dec 161#2
Same here. My onkyo 606 Is still plodding on. Would love to upgrade to something with Wi-Fi enabled capabilities like MusicCast but just can't justify it.
DudleyGuy to alexjameshaines
26 Dec 161#13
This will be a different class to your cheap onkyo, I recommend this or a Sony!
Babbler to alexjameshaines
26 Dec 16#18
I was thinking the same... But no hdr on my one and loads of extra ports on this one tempting me!
deepu25
26 Dec 162#17
just to add - onkyo is Japanese brand since 1940s and now also owns Pioneer
Disco Dave
26 Dec 16#15
Hear come the Onkyo remarks. Had an Onkyo for years and it has never let me down
DudleyGuy to Disco Dave
26 Dec 161#16
To be fair mate I have had cheap Chinese electronics last year's to , but it's also about the quality and experience
spritey
26 Dec 16#14
Also ordered this from RS today, can't go wrong with this AV Receiver tbh. I already had £25 off though as they did a deal, so couldn't get them to return more with price match. Worth a try I guess.
UltimatePhoenix
26 Dec 16#12
I got this for just under 800 with speakers I think
amoulden
26 Dec 16#8
Don't Richer sounds beat a competitors price by £10 in this price range making it £369
Just ordered mine from Hifonix. Not worth faffing around for a fiver, reviews check out 5 star.
j3remy42 to o2y360
26 Dec 161#10
I think the attraction is really in the cheap 6 yr warranty, but I know what you mean.
Sampson
26 Dec 161#9
Soooo tempted. Not sure how much better it is over my x2000 though, but nearly bought it at 399 on Black Friday... I suspect if it was an online link I'd have bought it by now... talking to a real person always puts me off...
andyman5002
26 Dec 16#4
I'm looking for a new amp, seriously tempted by this to replace an old Yamaha! Can anyone suggest any decent alternatives for similar price otherwise I might just take the plunge! How did you get the extra £5 off?
PaulLFC to andyman5002
26 Dec 16#5
Richer Sounds will give the extra £5 off automatically as they give up to £100 extra depending on the size of the price match.
PaulLFC
26 Dec 161#3
My Onkyo still works great also - a bit disappointed at having to upgrade myself but the Onkyo had no support for 4K - the Denon at least looks fairly future proof with 4K/HDR/HDCP 2.2 on all HDMI inputs, Dolby Atmos and WiFi.
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Opening post
The Denon AVR-X2300W is currently £399 at Richer Sounds, but they advertise that they'll beat any lower price when notified.
Hifonix currently have the same model for £379 - https://www.hifonix.co.uk/detail/denon-avr-x2300w-black-7-2-channel-av-receiver-with-bluetooth-wi-fi
I rang Richer Sounds on 0333 900 0093 and notified them of the Hifonix price, they matched and then knocked off an extra £5 making it £374. This also makes 6 year supercare slightly cheaper too if you want to add that.
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Fully loaded with the very latest audio and video technologies, the AVR-X2300W delivers incredibly immersive surround sound, optimised via extensive sound tuning – not to mention plenty of amplifi er power.
Key Features & Benefits
- 7.2 channel AV Receiver with 150W per channel: Enough power to fill medium size rooms with unique Denon sound
- Built-in WiFi with 2.4GHz/5GHz dual band support; built-in Bluetooth: Improved network stability especially in WiFi-crowded homes
- 4K/60 Hz full-rate pass-through, 4:4:4 colour resolution, HDR and BT.2020: Latest HDMI standard for future-proof compatibility
- 8 HDMI inputs (incl. 1 front) with full HDCP 2.2 support; 2 HDMI outputs: Plenty of inputs for your digital devices; ready to feed a TV and projector in parallel
- Advanced Video Processing with 4K Scaling for HDMI sources: Full HD and even Ultra HD video quality from existing DVDs or other digital video sources
- Dolby Atmos (up to 5.1.2) and DTS:X (via firmware update): Blockbusting 3D sound with effects from overhead
- AirPlay, Bluetooth, Internet Radio, Spotify Connect, Network Audio Streaming: Access to almost unlimited online music sources
- DSD (2.8/5.6MHz), FLAC, ALAC, AIFF and WAV support: High Resolution audio streaming for HiFi enthusiasts, even gapless
- Audyssey MultEQ XT, Dynamic Volume and Dynamic EQ: Delivering perfect equalization for your individual room
- Colour-coded speaker terminals, Setup Assistant, Denon 2016 AVR Remote App: Hassle-free installation, setup and operation
- Intelligent ECO mode with off/on/auto setting: Energy-conscious without compromising on performance
Top comments
First questions you’ve got to ask yourself with any speaker set is…
1. How big is my living room, basically how much space am I filling with sound
2. What kind of speaker do you want. Style? Bookshelf? Floor-standers?
MOST IMPORTANTLY. Goto the likes of Richersounds, ask them to setup the set in a demo room so you can hear it. Sound is such a subjective thing sometimes and these guys are happy to help you decide what you like best.
The first question will dictate to some degree the type of speaker you want, if you have a very large / gigantic living room then you’ll likely lean towards floorstanders / bookshelf style setup.
If however, like most people in the UK. It isn’t… Then it’s more a personal preference kind of thing. Now below I lean mean towards the style speakers, Monitor Audio or Dali will do you well at the “Big size” speaker side. Although you can get Q Acoustic floor standers to compliment a 2000 or 3000 series rear.
£100-£300?
Tannoy TFX 5.1 (My parents have these, they’re great for the money).
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-packages/tannoy/tfx-5.1/tann-tfx5.1-blk
Tannoy HTS101XP
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-packages/tannoy/hts101xp/tann-hts101xp
Both are pretty much 5 star speaker sets
£300-£500?
Q Acoustic 2000i 5.1
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-packages/q-acoustics/pah01309/pah01309
I started on the 1000 and then 1010 series, absolutely FANTASTIC start set. It’s hard to find better than this at this price point.
Monitor Audio MASS 5.1
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-packages/monitor-audio/mass-5.1/moni-audio-mass
I’ve never owned or heard these – but they’re supposed to be awesome. Look great on stands aswell.
£500-£1000?
Q Acoustic 3000 5.1
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-packages/q-acoustics/pah013117/pah013117
Like the 2000 – but a step up.
Q Acoustic 7000i / 7000i Plus
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-packages/q-acoustics/q7000i/qaco-q7000i-5.1-blk
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-packages/q-acoustics/7000i-plus/qaco-q7000i-plus-blk
Q Acoustics "style" speaker set, these pretty much won every award on the trot for something like 3 years?
KEF E305 5.1
http://www.audioaffair.co.uk/kef-e305-5-1-speaker-package?gclid=Cj0KEQiAhZPDBRCz642XqYOCpb8BEiQANUcwT_JfUXDSu4YWfJGOSTpeFX_0bDdamT7yQCL6TaCqTMoaAq2S8P8HAQ
My favourite (Mainly as my last 2 5.1 sets have been KEF) – I’ve been using KEF 3005SE set for a number of years. I’ve also had the T205 set (£1.5 flat slim speakers) previously which I loved. If my KEF 3005SE broke, i'd likely replace them with the KEF E305 or buy another second hand set of the 3005SE. For me personally, they're my perfect 5.1 set.
Also remember, you need speaker cable!
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-cables/qed/micro/qed-micro
I go for QED Micro or Original personally.
Also plugs, Richersounds can normally put these on for you
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-cables/cambridge-audio/4mm-banana-plugs/gale-4mmbanana-gd
Then also a sub cable
http://www.richersounds.com/product/hi-fi-interconnects/audioquest/black-lab-sub-cable-5m/qudi-bl-sub-5m
Another great thing - speakers don't really become obsolete now.. Once you have a great set - you've got a great set.
Latest comments (85)
One day... ONE DAY... I will convince my wife to let me convert our garage into a cinema room.
You were talking about the negatives of spending less, which is around £200, £300, not £399. I am saying if you do buy a cheap AV, you might need to upgrade it when you upgrade speakers, as we all get that upgrade bug. The X1300 to the X2300 for example is 70W difference which is quite substantial. The X2300 and X3300 are the same though.
Again, this goes back to the original question though. Your living room size, i would argue that a £399 AV Receiver is going to be more than adequate for most people. I've had a pretty good living room size - i've never needed anything close to what my AV Receiver is rated at. A £200-£300 AV Receiver from an output perspective would also be the same, just lacks the features i want / need. Despite any advice people get on the internet about AV Receivers or Speakers, they should go demo them.
Should i buy this or go for a cheaper AV Receiver?
You can get cheaper AV Receivers from the likes of Yamaha, Denon, Onkyo and Sony. Around the £200-£300 mark. You’re going to lose some stuff though;
- No DTS:X and Dolby Atmos (New Object based sound)
- No Wifi / Airplay
- Will be 5.1 and not 7.2
- Less HDMI ports and less HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2 ports
While DTS:X and Dolby Atmos are new – you want to future proof as much as you can with an AV Receiver as you don’t want the fuss of replacing it. Sure you may not need it now but in the future you may want to add some more speakers, if you a step down in the range you're limited what you can do without replacing it.
I spent £350 on my first ever AV Receiver, glad I did. At the £200-£300 range you’re losing some great features, at the £350-£450 range you’re getting those features and above than in cost you’re typically only getting more zones, amplification and perhaps THX cert (I over simplify but the reason this gets such good reviews and AV Receivers around this price point often do, is they offer great value for money on top of allot of stuff inside).
First questions you’ve got to ask yourself with any speaker set is…
1. How big is my living room, basically how much space am I filling with sound
2. What kind of speaker do you want. Style? Bookshelf? Floor-standers?
MOST IMPORTANTLY. Goto the likes of Richersounds, ask them to setup the set in a demo room so you can hear it. Sound is such a subjective thing sometimes and these guys are happy to help you decide what you like best.
The first question will dictate to some degree the type of speaker you want, if you have a very large / gigantic living room then you’ll likely lean towards floorstanders / bookshelf style setup.
If however, like most people in the UK. It isn’t… Then it’s more a personal preference kind of thing. Now below I lean mean towards the style speakers, Monitor Audio or Dali will do you well at the “Big size” speaker side. Although you can get Q Acoustic floor standers to compliment a 2000 or 3000 series rear.
£100-£300?
Tannoy TFX 5.1 (My parents have these, they’re great for the money).
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-packages/tannoy/tfx-5.1/tann-tfx5.1-blk
Tannoy HTS101XP
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-packages/tannoy/hts101xp/tann-hts101xp
Both are pretty much 5 star speaker sets
£300-£500?
Q Acoustic 2000i 5.1
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-packages/q-acoustics/pah01309/pah01309
I started on the 1000 and then 1010 series, absolutely FANTASTIC start set. It’s hard to find better than this at this price point.
Monitor Audio MASS 5.1
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-packages/monitor-audio/mass-5.1/moni-audio-mass
I’ve never owned or heard these – but they’re supposed to be awesome. Look great on stands aswell.
£500-£1000?
Q Acoustic 3000 5.1
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-packages/q-acoustics/pah013117/pah013117
Like the 2000 – but a step up.
Q Acoustic 7000i / 7000i Plus
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-packages/q-acoustics/q7000i/qaco-q7000i-5.1-blk
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-packages/q-acoustics/7000i-plus/qaco-q7000i-plus-blk
Q Acoustics "style" speaker set, these pretty much won every award on the trot for something like 3 years?
KEF E305 5.1
http://www.audioaffair.co.uk/kef-e305-5-1-speaker-package?gclid=Cj0KEQiAhZPDBRCz642XqYOCpb8BEiQANUcwT_JfUXDSu4YWfJGOSTpeFX_0bDdamT7yQCL6TaCqTMoaAq2S8P8HAQ
My favourite (Mainly as my last 2 5.1 sets have been KEF) – I’ve been using KEF 3005SE set for a number of years. I’ve also had the T205 set (£1.5 flat slim speakers) previously which I loved. If my KEF 3005SE broke, i'd likely replace them with the KEF E305 or buy another second hand set of the 3005SE. For me personally, they're my perfect 5.1 set.
Also remember, you need speaker cable!
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-cables/qed/micro/qed-micro
I go for QED Micro or Original personally.
Also plugs, Richersounds can normally put these on for you
http://www.richersounds.com/product/speaker-cables/cambridge-audio/4mm-banana-plugs/gale-4mmbanana-gd
Then also a sub cable
http://www.richersounds.com/product/hi-fi-interconnects/audioquest/black-lab-sub-cable-5m/qudi-bl-sub-5m
Another great thing - speakers don't really become obsolete now.. Once you have a great set - you've got a great set.
Then when you do it, you get it... You get complete clarity of sound and bass,fantastic audio processing and all round next level experience when watching a movie or TV. Now I spend £400 on AV Receivers typically and my speakers with wire cost around £1000-£1200... I'd view them as a mid end setup...
Took me a while to convince my parents of the same, they'd come round our house and love it but without that direct comparison especially in your own environment you don't appreciate it... Now they'd never go back. Their AV Receiver stopped working one day, you'd think they'd just use the TV sound until they got it sorted? Nope, they felt the loss of that sound made it impossible for them to enjoy TV / Movies. So didn't watch anything till they got it sorted.
I'm still tempted by the Yam rx-v681 which is also £400. My mate bought the 681 on release date earlier this year for £600 and he is smitten. I can't find any decent reviews for it though.
Cheers
I really wanted to take advantage of this as my trusty Onkyo has just died of the common HDMI board failure.
Denon all the way for me now.
I only went for the Denon due to the Yamaha having limited HDMI 2.0 ports.
Weight of unit, unboxed, in KG.
9.4
Don't be silly, audio doesn't take downsizing well.
My current receiver is around 22KG, transformer alone weights as much as this crap.
Everything is connected via oneconnect and I only use amazon uhd and Netflix uhd.
I don't intend to ever really use blu ray again.
Will this amp provide superior sound for me? Everything is on ARC.
The Sony is about 10 years old, will this denon be a big step up? What speakers are recommended, something compact ?
http://m.richersounds.com/#!/product/DENO-SYS2020-BLK
Similar to what some prosepective buyers on this thread have put, I upgraded to this from an onkyo for the 4k. I am so pleasantly surprised by the quality of the sound, nobody will be dissapointed and at this price it is too cheap not to if you are in the market.
http://www.richersounds.com/information/pricebeat