He's clearly on a posting spree.... 3 deals posted within minutes of each other.... no time for details :smile:

I'll be nice about this unlike both of you. The steam machine is indeed designed to play games. However it is also a fully functional PC which by simply creating a windows boot USB (very easy to do) you can turn into a fully functional PC in a small form factor. In fact I actually get genuine windows free or certain businesses can get licences for £10. So my comment is entirely relevant because it's a much better machine which is also fully upgradable (bar the GPU) in a similar small size. It also has a pretty decent GPU which even if you have no intention of gaming can be used to accelerate a variety of applications. I also own an Acer RL85 that was less then this PC and is actually a better system (£99). Hopefully you are enlightened enough to realise that an i3, 4GB RAM and 500GB 7200rpm drive is a better PC then this. I've had a similar system in the HP Stream 11 and a Lenovo ideastick and unlike a Chromebook windows runs like rubbish on these PCs.

Or fill out the details correctly as requested on the submission page.

The OP posted about three deals in sucession with no description, initially it looked like Spam.

- You have a funny interpretation of the word demand. :wink:

Cold, terrible cpu, seen i3 systems go for this price in the past with similar specs.

Perhaps some form of description?

I'm voting hot but I think you'd be better paying the extra £100 for a steam machine from Amazon. Of course £100 is a lot of money so unlike many on here I'm just voting hot for the deal as it is a good deal for this product and then giving my opinion which is not in any way related to the deal!

Does this come with the dual disc tray so can just drop in a another 2.5 drive?

My comment looks silly now there is a description!!

Making the most of striking it hot as 90% of people click hot without a care or knowledge if it is hot or not, all they care about is discovering a flamedeer

Voted HOT! Why:

1. Legit Windows c£40
2. CPU £40
3. SSD £20
4. 2GB RAM (needs more) £20
5. WIFI + Bluetooth £20
6. Built in card reader £10
7. VESA mount! - you can attach it to the back of your monitor (if you buy one with VESA mounts)

Total c£150 but that is before cost of power supply, case etc. Got to be about £200 of value in the box.

With you 100% there mate - impossible to list any kind of pc, tablet or even TV without it being dissected as a games device...some of us want a TV to watch TV on, weird eh?

Could you upgrade the CPU in these?

​what are you intending to use this for ? tv streaming services ? the processor is pretty weak to use as a pc ?

Don't be so quick with your DEMANDS in future then?..

Or fill out the details correctly as requested on the submission page.

The OP posted about three deals in sucession with no description, initially it looked like Spam.

- You have a funny interpretation of the word demand. :wink:

Thoughts on memory upgrade, drop in a matching 2gb stick or for £10 more a 4gb

Thanks was more the combination setup i was thinking, keep the 32gb ssd and drop in 2.5 inch drive, just wanted to know if the double drive tray came as standard in this one

ebuyer therefore cold for me

I'll be nice about this unlike both of you. The steam machine is indeed designed to play games. However it is also a fully functional PC which by simply creating a windows boot USB (very easy to do) you can turn into a fully functional PC in a small form factor. In fact I actually get genuine windows free or certain businesses can get licences for £10. So my comment is entirely relevant because it's a much better machine which is also fully upgradable (bar the GPU) in a similar small size. It also has a pretty decent GPU which even if you have no intention of gaming can be used to accelerate a variety of applications. I also own an Acer RL85 that was less then this PC and is actually a better system (£99). Hopefully you are enlightened enough to realise that an i3, 4GB RAM and 500GB 7200rpm drive is a better PC then this. I've had a similar system in the HP Stream 11 and a Lenovo ideastick and unlike a Chromebook windows runs like rubbish on these PCs.

Absolutely, I also agree the Alienware machine has much greater use and longevity than this deal.

Try transcoding some h265 on this and passing it over your local LAN, watch the CPU set on fire trying.

Not voted either way.

Cold, terrible cpu, seen i3 systems go for this price in the past with similar specs.

Thanks for taking the time out from your busy gaming schedule to explain that spending nearly double gets one a more powerful machine :wink:

Looks like a Salter kitchen scale

Perfect as a HTPC or for web browsing and word documents and spreadsheets. The internal bay seems to allow for 2 x SSD / 2.5 in HD or 1 x 3.5inch HD. You will have to change the BIOS setting to enable legacy(?) USB booting (e.g. LibreElec in my case). 2 x RAM slots. A big plus (well for me) is an Toslink optical output, seldom seen in new PCs.

Would this run pfSense firewall? I have a USB network adaptor.

Ironically I wouldn't buy the Steam machine to game as it is basically a 860M inside. It isn't a good game machine but it is a really good small form factor PC with a decent CPU. Unlike this deal. Like I said this is still a good deal in its own right. BTW I don't really game as otherwise I would have put the £250-300 towards a rx480 or 1060 if I did.

How would this fair to a CHUWI HiBox?

Im so lost on whats good in the worls of chips these days1

Looking for something to replace a couple of rpis and wouldnt mind moving to Windows to do it.

banging head against wall...if only Valve had been as successful in this blind Steam Machine=games! Steam machine=PC. I'm typing in windows on it now!

I can confirm this comes with the "Vivo Dualbay" it comes fitted with a 32GB 2.5" SSD and you can fit a second 2.5" HDD or replace the dualbay chassis with a 3.5" HDD. Also has a SD card slot and 6 USB ports so you can add external storage.

Thanks, when i looked on my phone info was really limited, when logged on to website using laptop could see it listed under contents. I have a couple of 2.5 inch drives sitting doing nothing so will drop one in, i did read somewhere max of 1tb for internal drive, anyone installed anything bigger?

My bluetooth keyboard with touch pad arrived today, extra memory due tomorrow and unit should be with me shortly, all good to go!

I have an Intel Compustick which sits behind my 4k TV and turns it into a proper smart TV. The standard smart TVs units are rubbish. These devices are perfect for this environment. Hardly going to set the world on fire for performance but a good idea for making a smart Telly alot smarter.

You should be able to fit a HDD larger than 1TB, there shouldn't be any actual hardware limitations or bottle necks limiting the max size. I think they only test up to 1TB which is why nothing bigger is stated on the website.

I couldn't see why they would limit it but was listed in a review i read, the only thing i didnt think of is setting up windows, the keyboard i bought is bluetooth so guessing might have to go find/borrow a usb keyboard for initial set up.