Beta Romeo, you could *stop lying* as starters. I did not claim NVIDIA was a UK company. Starter for 10, don't lie.

As for the 1060 replacing the 970, it's clear, that's exactly what it's aimed at. The pricing, the branding, the market share (for gaming) matches the 970.

Also, did I say NVIDIA made an official statement saying the 970 was a replacement, or did I show a very well made graph showing, in simple terms, how the upgrade path looks?

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi7iJ_e6t_QAhWEDsAKHUpYDiwQFghAMAY&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcworld.com%2Farticle%2F3092193%2Fcomponents-graphics%2Fnvidias-geforce-gtx-1060-is-a-250-gtx-980-killer.html&usg=AFQjCNGmoooJ708ZD9uET3UywCRU3rkJ7A

The card is marketed as a Mid Range card, just like the 970 was for the last 1.5 years.

Do you mean that FreeSync supports DisplayPort and HDMI while G-Sync only supports DisplayPort? I think you may be out of the loop on that one - Nvidia quietly added HDMI support last year ("G-Sync Gen II" or "G-Sync II"). The monitor in this deal has it, for example.

As you seemed to be going through the cons but left out the pros, I'll just add that G-Sync also supports borderless windowed, which FreeSync has been allegedly going to get an update to include, but unless I'm mistaken, that's still MIA..?

G-Sync also works through the entire refresh range, while FreeSync has those limited windows. And FreeSync can still have ghosting issues that seriously affect overall image quality.

I'm not saying that G-Sync is better value than FreeSync, but it's indisputably a higher-quality solution - when you say "comparable G-Sync display", it's tricky, because FreeSync just isn't as good. Personally, though, I'm with you - G-Sync is nice, but not "£150 nice".

Nobody (or, at least, nobody with the relevant education) uses the Steam Hardware Survey for marketshare. It's an indicator of gaming graphics card trends, and useful as such, but nothing more. It doesn't necessarily show miners, for example. We can assume from it that AMD are still far behind Nvidia in sales to gamers in general, but that is not the same as overall hardware sales.

Here's a marketshare analysis that doesn't use big words: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10613/discrete-desktop-gpu-market-trends-q2-2016-amd-grabs-market-share-but-nvidia-remains-on-top

Nate1492, I'm still waiting for you to repair your reputation after you thought Nvidia was a UK company who had, you say, claimed the 1060 was their official replacement for the 970 (despite the two 1060 models having the same MSRP as their two 960 predecessors). Got a link to that quote yet?

The 480 was a failure as it has not obtained market share in the video game market.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

Not only has it sold poorly as a gaming card, the 460, 470, and 480 don't combine to even crack a single half percent. All 3 cards fall unde the minimum threshold to register. That is .15%.

Either the stock was abysmal, or the cards are not being used for gaming. Heck, did you see the thread about the AMD 480s? Top post was a guy buying 4 to mine currency.

That steam survey is an objective failure.

The XF270HU is a fine monitor, but the XB271HU (not the A, that's the TN) is *far* better. You can make assumptions about reviews and whether I have one or not, I won't entertain your pre-determined fantasy.

Oh, and your figure about AMD "clawing back 10% marketshare". Again, you are making things up, objective data is available.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

Yes, they have *Lost* 2% market share over the course of June 2015 to November 2016. So, what next? I mean, I don't know how I can discuss with someone if you are bent on making numbers up.

I mean, until you repair your reputation for credibility (10% market share!) I don't think your opinion should carry much water.

Up to £530 again it seems.

I mean one is IPS and £60 cheaper and another have g sync :confused: so hard to choose !

Ah, the inner fanboy emerges.

If you don't see the fact that there are more good FreeSync monitors on the market (both than bad ones and G-Sync ones), I don't know what to tell you. You could quite easily visit any online store or review site and see them right now, but I guess that wouldn't be productive, because it wouldn't fit with your view of NVIDIA R DA BESTEST. As for 165Hz suddenly being the indicator of a good monitor, I can't help but laugh. As for the XF270HU, it's on par with any other 144Hz 1440p IPS monitor you care to mention. The reviews speak for themselves, so there's no need to give your opinion on a monitor that you've never used any merit.

Regarding the "AMD will be good at sometime" fanboy nonsense, I don't need to "buy into" anything, because I'm not some silly child who only buys from their favourite brand. I've owned excellent cards from both AMD and Nvidia. I was very happy with the Fury I had earlier this year in every respect, but am the kind of restless up/sidegrader who sells perfectly good things to buy shiny new ones regularly (I've also had two 1060s, another 1070, a 290X, two 480s and a Nano this calendar year). I've had some great times with AMD cards, and will do again in the future, once they have the right product for me. Sorry if that upsets you.

The 480 wasn't a "failure" by any metric you care to mention either. Objectively that is untrue. The recent numbers showing that AMD have clawed back more than 10% market share in the discrete graphics card sector compared to a year ago is proof enough of that. It's a good mid-range card with some advantages over the 1060, and which I imagine will prove to be the better long-term buy, as AMD cards usually are.

It's not as important if you're driving games at very high framerates. You'll see a lot less tearing than at lower framerates. Personally, I wouldn't pay the extra for G-Sync. The monitor you have supports a VESA standard that isn't going anywhere, since Intel are supporting it too. There's a chance that Nvidia will get on board in the future, whereas there's no chance of anybody else ever adopting G-Sync.

Does g sync/free sync really matter on 2k 144hz monitors? I'm currently own acer XF270HU, but I have gtx1070 graphic card :s. I'm thinking return that monitor and buy g sync monitor. Anyone can answer my question please ?

The '480' is a mid range card don't forget, also I'm not gonna lie but it was kinda funny how overhyped the card was, where people were saying it was beating a 1070 (lol). I think by Nvidia releasing there 1060, it was a HUGE surprise to the masses and even me that a '60' series card was bringing such performance to the table equaling to that of the 980. This year I think Nvidia won this year due to that 1060 surprising alot of people as it was soo unexpected in terms of performance.

I do not see 'more good freesync monitors' around.

Where are the 1440p, 165+ hz TN or IPS displays?

The acer xf270HU is not on the same level as the Predator series.

If you've bought into the "AMD will be good at sometime" hype, then fine. But after the 480 failure, not buying in till it's already there.

But there are also more good FreeSync monitors than there are G-Sync monitors, due to the fact that there are far more on the market total, and those are also a lot cheaper than their G-Sync equivalents. It's nothing to do with the market positions of AMD and Nvidia, but simply the cost of implementing the G-Sync module in the monitor. FreeSync monitors also have advantages in terms of connectivity. G-Sync displays are very limited in that regard.

Equally, there's no reason to actually buy one of the bad FreeSync monitors, because you'd have to be absolutely crazy not to be doing some fairly thorough research on a product before dropping hundreds of pounds on it. Something like the Acer XF270HU, a 144Hz 1440p IPS FreeSync monitor, can be had for under £400 and has a 40-144Hz FreeSync range. A comparable G-Sync display would cost you at least £150 more. Even this TN panel with similar specs costs over £70 more.

AMD have new high end cards arriving soon, and personally I'm planning to get rid of my 1070 and pair one of them with a FreeSync monitor (probably the XF270HU I mentioned). I can't justify paying £150+ just for a G-Sync module.

Picked this up for £453 a few days ago, wish I tried a TN panel months ago instead of wasting time and effort on the IPS lottery. They're not perfect but their imperfections are less annoying than the current gaming IPS monitors by a long stretch.

It's generally a bad place to look for a FreeSync deal in the Gsync monitor deal thread ;-)

The problem is two fold.

The more expensive screens are paired with more expensive (stronger/better) cards.

NVIDIA sell the premium graphics cards right now, while AMD are struggling to compete with the midrange card.

That along side the lack of quality controls with FreeSync, it's open source, comes with a plethora of mediocre screens that barely do any sort of adaptive refresh.

Some are only doing adaptive refresh within 45-70 hertz range, what's the use of that?

True doubt it will drop again, but currently this has to be the cheapest G-Sync 144hz+ 1440p monitor I've seen, but where are the cheaper Freesync ones @. This would be no good to me with my R9 Fury.

I think this is the cheapest price currently, but I can't get myself to part with 460 when it sold for 413 just 2 months ago :disappointed:

you're not alone :disappointed:

Is thier a ips version and freesync

Thz