hi has anyone found any good offers for extra door/window contacts please?
123jhb123
27 Nov 16#44
According to Yale's FAQs that's not how this alarm system works, you have to enter the property (to trigger a sensor) before the keyfob can turn off the alarm: http://www.yale.co.uk/en/yale/couk/advice/faqs/#alarms7
"My HSA6000 Control panel-based alarm system will not disarm using my keyfob. Why not? This is an in-built security feature. In order to stop the alarm from sounding, you need to enter the property and activate the ‘entry’ sensor first (e.g. the front door sensor). During the entry countdown period, pressing ‘disarm’ on the keyfob will disarm the alarm. [N.B. Our latest ‘EasyFit’ system does have an option to allow you to disarm the alarm from outside.]"
Also, as far as I can tell the keyfobs in this range don't use rolling codes, so in theory someone could clone the signal - it used to happen with car alarms/central locking, but I don't know whether it's worth worrying about for home alarm systems.
MrJinxy
27 Nov 16#43
So if your keys are stolen and they know where you live your buggered?
MrJinxy
27 Nov 16#41
What's the difference between the small fob and the extra keypad? In terms of functions
You can enable or disable the alarm before entering into your house.
hotfinder
26 Nov 16#40
See comment #14 for link
hotfinder
24 Nov 16#10
Good price but I really don't see the point of alarms anymore when you can use webcams to monitor the house for movement, get an alert on your phone, speak to the intruder from anywhere in the world (so you can say "get out of my house you naughty burglar!"), video record the activity in several rooms and even gives you extra peace of mind to see whether you left the lights on or not. Three wireless cameras cost me £100 recently. Whereas with an alarm like this just goes off, calls you to say it's gone off, upsets the neighbours when you're not responding and they just ignore it thinking the things gone wrong. Any ideas why these things still sell in this day and age?
mach9 to hotfinder
24 Nov 16#12
Agree with your point.. But which webcams did you go for..
smilerstradwick to hotfinder
24 Nov 16#13
Can I ask what cameras you bought? Looking for a similar set-up myself
BlackCloud to hotfinder
24 Nov 16#33
The point of an alarm more than anything I'd a visible deterrent. You make your house look like you are there (timers on lights etc) and an alarm box that looks like it will be a working system will deter most burglars. There are no guarantees but most move on to somewhere easier unless they don't care or have a reason why it needs to be your house. In the main alarms are better deterrents than CCTV although I would always recommend that too. Good locks and not underestimating how burglars can climb, accessing small windows or even coming in whilst you watch TV etc are all worth thinking about. Most people don't. If a burglar gets in and an alarm activates most burglars will go and even if they smash the alarm control box the external siren should work for about 20 minutes.
flex786 to hotfinder
25 Nov 16#39
Which one did you get that does all of them features?. I need to get one but confused with so many out there. Would be a great help. thanks
Darthridgeback
24 Nov 16#35
Cool, if I get this and a £100 CCTV system I could protect my home, family and belongings for £200!! That's nearly cheaper than a week at Butlins!! :smirk:
Simnaz to Darthridgeback
25 Nov 16#38
What cctv system?? Please share link and or details
daDeal
24 Nov 16#37
Good Price. Have one for the last 2 years. PIR batteries last about 12 months, came with GP AAA. Door and window contacts batteries still working as is the external siren batteries (D batteries I think)
You can set up alarm zones e.g garage on at night or down stairs etc, rather than the whole house. It links up to your landline, so to use the call someone function, you need a power socket and telephone socket near each other.
If the batteries need changing, the box tells you which sensor.
When you are out and the alarm goes off it will call you immediately. You can turn off the alarm from any phone by pressing the appropriate digit on the keypad. The alarm will still be armed, or you can disarm remotely using the appropriate digits on any telephone keypad.
You can set different entry and exit points (contact sensors) and choose the amount of time for each.
You can get non Yale branded remotes which are better looking and smaller, with the same functions.
The unit has a back up battery if there is a power cut etc. The external siren and PIR sensors are tamper proof.
I would recommend using the alarm with a IP camera so if the alarm goes off you can check if there is any movement... It will not tell you which sensor was triggered remotely, but does display on the unit.
The external alarm siren is a good deterrent, why home owners have not invested in one in this day is not a good idea. £100 and a couple of hours DIY is well worth the peace of mind.
shadey12
24 Nov 16#36
not always possible however if you can position it close enough to upstairs window opening, its easier to change 2 years later.
MrJinxy
24 Nov 16#11
How long do the batteries last in the sensors , keypad and strobe? Is it literally all wireless or is some parts wired?
snoopy18 to MrJinxy
24 Nov 16#20
2years, the keypad needs a power point and phone line
YouDealTroll to MrJinxy
24 Nov 16#34
They last a couple of years. The only thing thats a bit of a pain is changing the ones in the siren as obviously you have to get up on a ladder
wehlan94
24 Nov 16#32
Vdont forget 1.3% via TopCashback, thanks heat added
romeospadre
24 Nov 16#31
I purchased the smart series version of this recently after researching. Decent kit thou this so heat
have to agree, both have there merits, alarm is good visual and noisy deterrent, cameras are good on app but by the time it comes up on your phone the burglar is already in and looking through your stuff. what if your a long way from home and can't contact anyone,
I suppose a lot will depend an your neighbours, if an alarm sounds where I live people take notice because its rare to hear one,
korting3
24 Nov 161#28
This is very old model. Better get from Yale EasyFit models, better frequency, better jamming detection. They have different frequencies (433Mhz vs 868Mhz)!
Chiptivo
24 Nov 161#27
lol.
Burglar walks in, and unplugs.
Then proceeds to raid your house.
snoopy18
24 Nov 16#26
Far from the best
snoopy18
24 Nov 161#25
normal/ I use duracell
paulj48
24 Nov 161#24
Yale wireless alarm are not the best ones, they're 1 way only wireless on a license exempt frequency that's susceptible to interference (either intentional or not) so much so that the manufacturer instruction's even advise switching the wireless jamming feature off. They are also not en50131 graded unlike most entry level wired system.
MrJinxy
24 Nov 16#23
Thanks. Are the batteries a special type or off the shelf?
sofiasar
24 Nov 161#22
just a reminder, you can buy a key fob for £20-£25 for this. just like you lock your car with a key fob, this does exactly same.
makes life much easier, and you don't have to run.
sofiasar
24 Nov 16#21
I have a similar one. telecommunication it's called.
I'm happy they Mande a cheaper version because budget is right for most :smiley:
Yale alarm must be the best ones because they used them on tv programme like break in Britain.
police later helped the victims, they installed only Yale stuff for the victims such as locks , alarms etc.
there is no point of a alarm if it can't ring you.
FTOdude170
24 Nov 16#6
might be a silly question.. but just incase on the off chance this uses the internet to make a call.. do you need a phoneline for this to work (the contacting aspect ofc!)?
Thanks
snoopy18 to FTOdude170
24 Nov 16#19
Needs to have a phone line wired in
paulj48
24 Nov 161#18
no such thing as a false alarm on a properly installed and serviced alarm, I have a grade 2 alarm I fitted to my house, it doesn't 'false alarm' and as I speak to my neighbour's they know this and if it goes off it's for a genuine reason.
Also Hotfinder how does you alert system work if the internet goes down or the would be thief cuts the phone line?
_Darren_
24 Nov 16#17
Purchased, thanks.
hotfinder
24 Nov 161#16
Because they think they're a false alarm.
paulj48
24 Nov 16#15
why would your neighbours get upset that they have been alerted to a break-in close to them?
Good deal I bought this a few months ago at £150. It's a good alarm. Heat added!
Sg2808
24 Nov 161#7
I think you need a landline
rogercat
24 Nov 16#5
Seems hot - but i already have loads of wired sensors which i'd really want to use but need a more modern system with an App or just a dialer any thought please
Dragon32
24 Nov 16#4
Good deal and like my one, but if you have a pet don't belive their pet friendly PIR sensors are actually pet friendly (after spending quite a bit of money swapping 4 of mine for pet friendly ones a whole back and faffing about for ages and speaking to Yale support it turns out they don't actually sense the weight of the animal (as suggested), but actually work on height so not much good if you have a cat that climbs or have to position them so high that a burglar can crawl under their range).
I've heard a lot of alarms work in this way though.
Apart from that have been impressed.
awoodhall2003
24 Nov 16#3
Nice.
aaqeel
24 Nov 16#1
Good price.
shadey12 to aaqeel
24 Nov 16#2
looks like they have quite a few things on offer until the 28th, this is the item that stood out for me.
Opening post
was £149.99
now £99.99
24-28th November
Latest comments (45)
http://www.yale.co.uk/en/yale/couk/advice/faqs/#alarms7
"My HSA6000 Control panel-based alarm system will not disarm using my keyfob. Why not? This is an in-built security feature. In order to stop the alarm from sounding, you need to enter the property and activate the ‘entry’ sensor first (e.g. the front door sensor). During the entry countdown period, pressing ‘disarm’ on the keyfob will disarm the alarm. [N.B. Our latest ‘EasyFit’ system does have an option to allow you to disarm the alarm from outside.]"
Also, as far as I can tell the keyfobs in this range don't use rolling codes, so in theory someone could clone the signal - it used to happen with car alarms/central locking, but I don't know whether it's worth worrying about for home alarm systems.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yale-Locks-HSA6080-Alarm-Accessory/dp/B002U0NFS2/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1480207030&sr=8-8&keywords=yale+wireless+alarms
You can set up alarm zones e.g garage on at night or down stairs etc, rather than the whole house. It links up to your landline, so to use the call someone function, you need a power socket and telephone socket near each other.
If the batteries need changing, the box tells you which sensor.
When you are out and the alarm goes off it will call you immediately. You can turn off the alarm from any phone by pressing the appropriate digit on the keypad. The alarm will still be armed, or you can disarm remotely using the appropriate digits on any telephone keypad.
You can set different entry and exit points (contact sensors) and choose the amount of time for each.
You can get non Yale branded remotes which are better looking and smaller, with the same functions.
The unit has a back up battery if there is a power cut etc. The external siren and PIR sensors are tamper proof.
I would recommend using the alarm with a IP camera so if the alarm goes off you can check if there is any movement... It will not tell you which sensor was triggered remotely, but does display on the unit.
The external alarm siren is a good deterrent, why home owners have not invested in one in this day is not a good idea. £100 and a couple of hours DIY is well worth the peace of mind.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/yale-easy-fit-telecommunicating-wireless-alarm-kit/42727
going to get one but not sure which to go for.
I suppose a lot will depend an your neighbours, if an alarm sounds where I live people take notice because its rare to hear one,
Burglar walks in, and unplugs.
Then proceeds to raid your house.
makes life much easier, and you don't have to run.
I'm happy they Mande a cheaper version because budget is right for most :smiley:
Yale alarm must be the best ones because they used them on tv programme like break in Britain.
police later helped the victims, they installed only Yale stuff for the victims such as locks , alarms etc.
there is no point of a alarm if it can't ring you.
Thanks
Also Hotfinder how does you alert system work if the internet goes down or the would be thief cuts the phone line?
I've heard a lot of alarms work in this way though.
Apart from that have been impressed.