You'd have to be mad to trade in a car of 7 years old for £1000.
Satchmo
29 Nov 163#4
I bought one in July, its not a bad car and it has 5 doors, electric heated wing mirrors, as well as the front electric windows, mileage not too bad , about 43mpg, car tax £20, only downside for me, because of giving reasonable leg space to back seats, boot is on the small side. I paid £6,999 but got the air-con and reverse parking sensors included. That was from Perry's in Preston.
groenleader
29 Nov 163#1
A tough sell, Vauxhall dropped lift time warranty, so this model is has just 3 years of cover (its 2016....)!
They i10 and Suzuki Celerio seem to review better and the i10 has become the go to car for people looking for cheap durable transport that is well rated.
The smart money will be at the local Ford dealer over the coming months trying to see how low you can get a price on a Fiesta as its a decent car the new model is due out next year. The prices I am already seeing suggest Ford have got plenty to get rid of!
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groenleader
29 Nov 163#1
A tough sell, Vauxhall dropped lift time warranty, so this model is has just 3 years of cover (its 2016....)!
They i10 and Suzuki Celerio seem to review better and the i10 has become the go to car for people looking for cheap durable transport that is well rated.
The smart money will be at the local Ford dealer over the coming months trying to see how low you can get a price on a Fiesta as its a decent car the new model is due out next year. The prices I am already seeing suggest Ford have got plenty to get rid of!
meditatedmonk83 to groenleader
29 Nov 16#6
I'm curious what price you think these might drop down to? I'm after a Fiesta and might wait till next year if you think it's worth holding off?
Joe90_guy to groenleader
29 Nov 161#10
The Suzuki Celerio is a fab little car. Have now bought three of them for various family members.
bellboys to groenleader
29 Nov 161#17
Wife has recently acquired a Hyundai i10 1 litre Premium and I'm amazed at the quality of it. Really well screwed together, quiet, economical and (at last) a decent looking Korean (via Turkey!) car. Very cheap to insure/tax also. Plus the 5 year warranty and 5 years breakdown cover is unrivalled at the price point. Seriously now looking at an i30 for me.
huangxq2 to groenleader
29 Nov 161#36
I agree with you.
When I stop using Thames Link to commute to London, I plan to buy i10 2017 to drive to work locally.(Between me and my wife, we already have a large SUV family car and do not need another.)
VW UP is not an option as its automatic version is very bad. I only want an automatic car.
thekanester
29 Nov 162#2
You won't get a Fiesta for £6 though. Double, if you're lucky. Whilst this isn't a great car, it is the same price as a base Sandero that has no electric windows.
This will be great for someone who doesn't need 5 doors.
Oh, just noticed, and this is something that OP should have put. You need to trade in a car less than 7 years old tonget this price. Anything over that age you have to add another £500 to the price.
Satchmo to thekanester
29 Nov 161#5
Its got 5 doors as standard, they do not do a 3 door in the Viva
meditatedmonk83
29 Nov 16#3
Voted hot! can't see this car cheaper anywhere else :wink:
Satchmo
29 Nov 163#4
I bought one in July, its not a bad car and it has 5 doors, electric heated wing mirrors, as well as the front electric windows, mileage not too bad , about 43mpg, car tax £20, only downside for me, because of giving reasonable leg space to back seats, boot is on the small side. I paid £6,999 but got the air-con and reverse parking sensors included. That was from Perry's in Preston.
PlayChase
29 Nov 16#7
Got an old motor to scrap (11 years). Tax and insurance runs out end of Feb. Would I be able to get a decent pre-reg for £5-6k?
thekanester
29 Nov 161#8
Oh ta. Looked like 3 in the pic. Even betterer!
Derek_Duval
29 Nov 161#9
*£1000 swappage already included in price.
*£1000 swappage allowance for your old car available on cars under 7 years old and £500 swappage allowance if your car is over 7 years old with a valid MOT and registered to you for 3 months previously.
So it's not 1K scrapped allowance, unless you've got a car less than 7 years old you'd consider scrap!
BeerGoggles
29 Nov 168#11
You'd have to be mad to trade in a car of 7 years old for £1000.
devlino to BeerGoggles
29 Nov 16#30
I presume £1000 is the minimum, may be worth it if you have a bit of a banger that needs some work,
Zuulan
29 Nov 16#12
A good price especially as Vauxhall have recently increased all their prices due to Brexit. Even though a lot of their UK cars are built in the UK.
That might have to account for other part imports and such.
philiprcarver to Zuulan
29 Nov 161#15
Your comment is misleading and wrong. The only Vauxhall built in the UK is the Astra (and some of them are built in Poland!) Everything else is built abroad. Viva and Mokka come from Korea. Corsas are from Spain or Germany. Oh and most manufacturers have increased prices by the way
Zuulan
29 Nov 16#14
Yes, even British products rely a lot on imported parts. So these price raises will be the first of many raises on a lot of products that'll cost a lot more in the coming years. Let's see if salaries keep pace with them (probably not).
bennyjoe920
29 Nov 16#16
A stupid question - how to buy car insurance for the leased car? Exactly the same as if I own it?
shininghero to bennyjoe920
29 Nov 161#18
Yes but make sure your insurer is ok with the lease company being both the registered owner and keeper. Most insurance companies are ok with this and won't affect your premium as if it was your own car. Make sure you take out gap insurance if you're worried about the shortfall in case you write your car off
djh1975
29 Nov 161#19
I would have my Toyota Aygo over a Viva or Fiesta any day. Better mpg, more reliable and a 5 year warranty. I would also consider an i10, Up, Citigo or Mii. My dad has a 3 year old Vauxhall Astra and it's failed to start twice. If your a regular on the motorway you get to know which cars break down more than others. I've seen more BMW's & Audi's broke down this year than any other manufacturer.
ianispne
29 Nov 16#20
Good deal but wouldn't want this car for four years
Proveright
29 Nov 161#21
I remember the original Vauxhall Viva, very basic, as a classic it is probably worth the same as these. Funny how its brand image then is the same now.
groenleader
29 Nov 162#22
You can never be sure but taking in to account....the new Fiesta carries over some engines and the chassis and the fact that Ford tend to over produce added to the fact that new car sales are slowing in the UK I expect dealers to be cutting the prices to keep up momentum.
At the moment the basic model lists at £13545 and Sheffield Ford will do it for £11289 cash or £10389 on finance I cant see why the basic models wont get down £9500 with haggle in a month or two.
Reflect that as a % across the range, expect a "bit" less (£200 - £300) for say a diesel, 5 door decent spec.
Ford will announce the NEW Fiesta tomorrow.
Besford
29 Nov 16#23
If this had a Daewoo or Chevrolet badge on it would you still consider it? That's the power of brand marketing! The only thing Vauxhall with this car is the rotten dealer network you have to deal with. The car itself is rated mediocre in tests. Quite probably more reliable than a 'European' Vauxhall though.
Sharpharp
29 Nov 161#24
The Hyundai i10 relieves its bladder over this feeble Vauxhall effort all day
Sir Charles
29 Nov 161#25
I've sold a lot of Vivas since they come out and people have been happy with them. It is a good little car. The difference between it and an i10 is marginal, the i10 is also a good car I have also sold many of them...but it's not streets ahead of the Viva like some claim.
haiderinho
29 Nov 161#26
i10 is made in India as well as the Suzuki Celerio. Both are better cars but both cost neared £10k. This is not a bad car for the price.
Joe90_guy to haiderinho
29 Nov 16#31
The RHD Celerios sold in the UK and made in Thailand, not India which is probably a good thing.
Yes, you're right. The top model SZ4 Suzuki Celerios are around the £10k mark but the three I've bought (all SZ4's) have been very low mileage ones, typically around six months old and I paid £7.5k, £7.0k and £5.8k (the first two from dealers, the last one privately). You'll get at least £1,000 p/x for any old banger (we got this for an 11 year old Aygo) if you go to a dealer.
These cars aren't to everyone's taste but they'll happily do 70 mpg if you have a gentle right foot, there's no road tax to pay for and the auto's are a doddle to drive without the penalties you get from a conventional fluid-drive or CVT.
There's nothing wrong with the Viva but it doesn't come in auto so was off our shopping list.
Try drivethedeal to get a price. Just saved over £2.5k on the 1litre ecoboost 140bhp model
sgandtg
29 Nov 161#28
Try drivethedeal to get a price. Just saved over £2.5k on the 1litre ecoboost 140bhp model
bellboys
29 Nov 161#29
Turkey.
stphnstevey
29 Nov 16#32
didn't know the scrappage scheme was still around!
dck to stphnstevey
29 Nov 16#39
This scheme is actually called the "£1,000 Swappage Allowance". There's no free government money. It's designed to confuse naive people into thinking the previous scheme has returned.
I'm not saying the car isn't worth £7K, but this "swappage allowance" nonsense is complete marketing BS!
feraz
29 Nov 161#33
7 year old cars are barely run in ! Let alone scrap
liamf12
29 Nov 16#34
Does this come with the interior pre-heat/de-icer facility like the Zafira and Corsa models where it randomly bursts into flames. Maybe it comes with the dodgy wiring loom problem between the centre pillar and rear doors where the windows sometimes work depending how far open the door is, or when your parking up late for a flight the window decides to wind down 6 inches, the central locking unlocks/locks for no reason and the alarm goes off for no apparent reason.
It's occurred since wiring was sent to rear doors on Vauxhalls but when your wife pulls up at the forecourt saying she can't get out of the car they look blankly at you and do the plumbers "this could be pricey" inhale.
It makes me wonder if these fires are somehow related to shorts in wiring causing fires in fuse boxes elsewhere.
It is a cheap deal, I've given it heat but as a Zafira owner I think I would rather go with another brand these days until they start holding their hands up to problems like Toyota do.
joehart2
29 Nov 16#35
a good buy for £5995.
i have phoned peter vardy and these cars were registered at the end of October so are only 3 weeks old, a bargain if you need a small run around with 5 doors.
5 doors a big plus in a small car
Joe90_guy
29 Nov 16#37
I bought my daughter a new i10 automatic. It's a nice car but she gets around 38 mpg because it"s a conventional fluid coupling auto. In contrast, my wife's Suzuki Celerio SZ4, with it's semi-automatic gearbox, has averaged about 70 mpg over it's first 4000 miles. Don't believe all the drivel the motoring press say about semi-automatics being 'jerky'. It just isn't true for the Magnetic Marelli designed one on the Suzuki. I liked the wife's car do much, I bought the same car for myself.
groenleader
29 Nov 16#38
Not argue with your opinion on your particular car but, the single clutch one in the VW group city range is world renown for being terrible and they have suspended further investment in the dual clutch product as well.
Modern torque converter automatics are way forward, a torque converter works much better with the turbo too. A few years ago dual clutches were the thing, they had short comings. The torque converters are now quicker at changing, better at handling 8+ gears (do we really need them all!?) and give better MPG.
tom_gov
30 Nov 16#40
not a proper german whip cold
adamspencer95
30 Nov 16#42
i'd advise the SL model if you like A/C, bluetooth and USB and half leather seats, as well as smarter alloys, but this is still a good price
shininghero
1 Dec 16#43
Quick question regarding cancelling finance within the cooling off period. Say if the car is £10000 cash or £9000 with finance with extra warranty extension thrown in. I agree with £9000 finance price, then I subsequently cancel the agreement within the cooling off period. Instead I pay off £9000 in cash and pay any interest payment due.
In this case, does the price revert back to £10000, and do I need to hand back the extra warranty extension? Has anyone got experience with this?
groenleader
1 Dec 16#44
Hello
From what I know of retail finance options the dealer doesn't really care what happens, they just get money for selling the product.
Most of them deals make you make you pay 1 months worth of payment then you can pay back the total outstanding amount. I don't know what happens if you cancel in the cooling off period, I would check the website for details on specific deals, the finance info t+c is usually on there too.
tan159
6 Dec 16#45
Irrespective of where something is made, post brexit prices are going up up up.
Most materials come from abroad so almost all suppliers/manufacturers in the uk have to put prices up.
I hope people realise the bull**** we were all fed.
Joe90_guy to tan159
9 Dec 161#47
Yep. I'm 100% with you on this. I recently bought a 16 plate car, not because I needed one but because in a year's time, I reckon it will be at least 10% more expensive and because of inflation I'll be that much poorer. I also bought one with the absolute minimum running costs because fuel is set to rocket.
I really don't understand the views of people that even now still believe voting for Brexit was the smart thing to do. The £ is already substantially down and likely to crater even further whatever happens with Article 50. Inflation is already with us; I'm already seeing this at Aldi & Lidl. We're retuning to the days of bad money where inflation outstrips what you can get in interest on your savings. And for what? We're already set for £122 billion in lost growth. It looks very much like we'll continue to pay into the EU for access to the single market. Everyone already here will have the right to stay here and the bulk EU law will simply be enshrined in English law! How is that a win??
I find it deeply ironic that people who make such an emotionally incontinent display of 'loving their country' are the very people that are going be responsible for damaging it beyond repair. So sad when, for the first time I'm my living memory that the country was actually doing okay relative to our peers.
Proveright
6 Dec 16#46
Au Contraire. After Brexit , the pound will get stronger and be worth more and so will buy more and prices will go down..
The con is that we have to wait two years to get out of the Evil EU , and instead of paying money into the EU political ideal hole, the Government will be able to spend the money here , where they want and that includes the NHS !
alanbeenthere
10 Dec 16#48
Not everyone voted in the referendum based on finance,
Of course the EU is doing great isn't it?
Joe90_guy to alanbeenthere
11 Dec 16#49
Apparently a lot of people who felt 'left behind' or were 'just about managing' voted for Brexit. Good luck then with the new post-Brexit reality that's about to engulf you. You're about to become 'left way behinds' and 'just can't manage any mores'. Or maybe they believed Nigel Garage's rallying cry about 'fighting for The Little Man'. I do hope these people have now spotted that Nige has gone back to his old day job of being a stockbroker and that his chief financial backer trousered £220 million as a result of betting on Brexit. Ever felt like you've been conned? Oh, and about the EU not doing so great. Well maybe it isn't but WE were doing well, very well actually, in fact better than we had done for decades and surely that's more important, especially if you're going to wrap yourself up in The Union Jack and claim to love your country?
alanbeenthere
11 Dec 16#50
We've been conned by QE for years. Yes all that QE made us appear to be doing great, so great in fact that taxes were going down, the national debt was going down and more services were in the pipeline..oh wait.
Anyway, we're here now so so I guess we all find out one way or another. :smiley:
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They i10 and Suzuki Celerio seem to review better and the i10 has become the go to car for people looking for cheap durable transport that is well rated.
The smart money will be at the local Ford dealer over the coming months trying to see how low you can get a price on a Fiesta as its a decent car the new model is due out next year. The prices I am already seeing suggest Ford have got plenty to get rid of!
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They i10 and Suzuki Celerio seem to review better and the i10 has become the go to car for people looking for cheap durable transport that is well rated.
The smart money will be at the local Ford dealer over the coming months trying to see how low you can get a price on a Fiesta as its a decent car the new model is due out next year. The prices I am already seeing suggest Ford have got plenty to get rid of!
When I stop using Thames Link to commute to London, I plan to buy i10 2017 to drive to work locally.(Between me and my wife, we already have a large SUV family car and do not need another.)
VW UP is not an option as its automatic version is very bad. I only want an automatic car.
This will be great for someone who doesn't need 5 doors.
Oh, just noticed, and this is something that OP should have put. You need to trade in a car less than 7 years old tonget this price. Anything over that age you have to add another £500 to the price.
*£1000 swappage allowance for your old car available on cars under 7 years old and £500 swappage allowance if your car is over 7 years old with a valid MOT and registered to you for 3 months previously.
So it's not 1K scrapped allowance, unless you've got a car less than 7 years old you'd consider scrap!
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At the moment the basic model lists at £13545 and Sheffield Ford will do it for £11289 cash or £10389 on finance I cant see why the basic models wont get down £9500 with haggle in a month or two.
Reflect that as a % across the range, expect a "bit" less (£200 - £300) for say a diesel, 5 door decent spec.
Ford will announce the NEW Fiesta tomorrow.
Yes, you're right. The top model SZ4 Suzuki Celerios are around the £10k mark but the three I've bought (all SZ4's) have been very low mileage ones, typically around six months old and I paid £7.5k, £7.0k and £5.8k (the first two from dealers, the last one privately). You'll get at least £1,000 p/x for any old banger (we got this for an 11 year old Aygo) if you go to a dealer.
These cars aren't to everyone's taste but they'll happily do 70 mpg if you have a gentle right foot, there's no road tax to pay for and the auto's are a doddle to drive without the penalties you get from a conventional fluid-drive or CVT.
There's nothing wrong with the Viva but it doesn't come in auto so was off our shopping list.
It certainly used to be India for the old i10, the difference in build quality to the turkish built i20 was obvious. Sounds like Hyundai also saw the difference and moved production of the i10.
http://www.richmondmotorgroup.com/i10-offer.aspx
I'm not saying the car isn't worth £7K, but this "swappage allowance" nonsense is complete marketing BS!
It's occurred since wiring was sent to rear doors on Vauxhalls but when your wife pulls up at the forecourt saying she can't get out of the car they look blankly at you and do the plumbers "this could be pricey" inhale.
It makes me wonder if these fires are somehow related to shorts in wiring causing fires in fuse boxes elsewhere.
It is a cheap deal, I've given it heat but as a Zafira owner I think I would rather go with another brand these days until they start holding their hands up to problems like Toyota do.
i have phoned peter vardy and these cars were registered at the end of October so are only 3 weeks old, a bargain if you need a small run around with 5 doors.
5 doors a big plus in a small car
Modern torque converter automatics are way forward, a torque converter works much better with the turbo too. A few years ago dual clutches were the thing, they had short comings. The torque converters are now quicker at changing, better at handling 8+ gears (do we really need them all!?) and give better MPG.
In this case, does the price revert back to £10000, and do I need to hand back the extra warranty extension? Has anyone got experience with this?
From what I know of retail finance options the dealer doesn't really care what happens, they just get money for selling the product.
Most of them deals make you make you pay 1 months worth of payment then you can pay back the total outstanding amount. I don't know what happens if you cancel in the cooling off period, I would check the website for details on specific deals, the finance info t+c is usually on there too.
Most materials come from abroad so almost all suppliers/manufacturers in the uk have to put prices up.
I hope people realise the bull**** we were all fed.
I really don't understand the views of people that even now still believe voting for Brexit was the smart thing to do. The £ is already substantially down and likely to crater even further whatever happens with Article 50. Inflation is already with us; I'm already seeing this at Aldi & Lidl. We're retuning to the days of bad money where inflation outstrips what you can get in interest on your savings. And for what? We're already set for £122 billion in lost growth. It looks very much like we'll continue to pay into the EU for access to the single market. Everyone already here will have the right to stay here and the bulk EU law will simply be enshrined in English law! How is that a win??
I find it deeply ironic that people who make such an emotionally incontinent display of 'loving their country' are the very people that are going be responsible for damaging it beyond repair. So sad when, for the first time I'm my living memory that the country was actually doing okay relative to our peers.
The con is that we have to wait two years to get out of the Evil EU , and instead of paying money into the EU political ideal hole, the Government will be able to spend the money here , where they want and that includes the NHS !
Of course the EU is doing great isn't it?
Anyway, we're here now so so I guess we all find out one way or another.
:smiley: