Update 09/08/2016: Our original test was showing an incorrect color depth of 8 bit due to some incorrect drivers on our system, but after some correction to our test apparatus, we tested again the color depth and we can confirm that the Sony X800D do in fact have an 10 bit panel. Also supports 444 chroma.
mizzy1985
20 Nov 16#8
This tv is £557.10 at argos using code TVS10
emiratesstadium to mizzy1985
20 Nov 161#9
I'm tempted at that price. Don't know if I'll get better on black Friday though.
Can't really find anywhere confirming if this is 10 bit. How reliable are the links posted above, really needs to be advertised on the Sony website.
emiratesstadium to mizzy1985
20 Nov 16#10
I'm tempted at that price. Don't know if I'll get better on black Friday though.
Can't really find anywhere confirming if this is 10 bit. How reliable are the links posted above, really needs to be advertised on the Sony website.
mizzy1985
20 Nov 16#11
Same here, i am in two minds as to whether to buy now or wait a few days maybe argos and tesco will price match each other and drive the price lower like they did with the xbox one s on release day :wink:
It's usually done by people that have very little idea what they're talking about. If it doesn't say Sony or Samsung then they assume it must be rubbish. The power of advertising and brand power.....
gazman090970
20 Nov 16#14
Seriously doubt this is 10 bit but this is arbitrary if the peak brightness is correct in the rtings review HDR will be pretty much innefective at such low levels add to that no local dimming makes this a poor choice if you want the most out of your PS4 pro.
rowly73
20 Nov 16#16
Anuone know the difference between the KD43XD8088BU and the KD43XD8077SU. ??
both are being sold at just over £620 at Argos
RonBurgundy1 to rowly73
20 Nov 16#17
Ones got a black suround and the others silver
rowly73
20 Nov 16#18
is that it as they are £10 different.
emiratesstadium to rowly73
20 Nov 16#19
Yes
emiratesstadium
20 Nov 16#20
If this is the UK equivalent to the x800d then this TV is 10 bit.
Can't find any UK sites saying what the panel actually is though. I'm on the edge on buying it.
moneysavingkitten
20 Nov 16#21
Probably fairly reliable in you are in America. The trouble is even if you compare the correct US model numbers to the UK ones that's no guarantee they will be using the same panel. It's very difficult indeed to find out exact information like that. Bit like different sizes in the same range are often not comparable because they use completely different panels.
Not especially helpful information I know, but honest.
hoults862
20 Nov 16#22
this is the tv am looking to buy in the next few days. But am looking for some reviews praising it for ps4 pro and hdr
PhantasiuMay to hoults862
20 Nov 16#29
I bought this especially for my ps4 pro, in the silver, from
Argos about a month ago. Its bloody brilliant. :smiley:
gazman090970 to hoults862
20 Nov 16#30
Samsung KS range is the cheapest entry point to proper HDR coming with Premium UHD certification.
nougat
20 Nov 16#24
Fail. What ever it was!
emiratesstadium
20 Nov 16#25
I've gone with it through argos for £557.10 with discount code TVS10. Got free delivery for some reason so going to get it delivered next week Monday.
If a better offer comes up through black Friday will be easier to cancel then take the tele back.
Also went through quidco, hopefully it works with the code as quidco are giving 10% cashback for the next 2 hours.
hass123 to emiratesstadium
20 Nov 161#28
Quidco usually don't give cashback if a discount code is used to buy stuff
slannmage
20 Nov 16#26
It's and 8-2panel but that doesn't matter, it's still the best 43 inch TV you can get.
hass123
20 Nov 16#27
1.72% TCB, 1.6% Quidco
SpamJavelin
20 Nov 16#31
43 inches on a 4k set? Hope you are sitting REALLY close.
eddynoo1
20 Nov 16#32
Sorry for novice question- is this 8bit not true hdr a real problem ? Does true HDR require 10bit ?
emiratesstadium to eddynoo1
20 Nov 161#33
Looking at reviews from the US version X800d and Amazon UK reviews this is a 10 bit tele.
viper1402 to eddynoo1
20 Nov 16#37
8bit panels can produce about 17million colours a 10bit panel can produce nearly 1billion colours.
100% this isn't 10bit
The numbers on the end are just the colour but this is the correct model, I was in richer sounds yesterday about to buy one and they confirmed it's 8bit,
I'm now going to buy the Samsung 7000 or 8000 depending on price drops on Black Friday, go and look at them in a shop the difference between this and 7000 this easy to see.
However for the price this is a very very good tv.
eddynoo1
20 Nov 16#34
Now I'm really confused
emiratesstadium
20 Nov 161#35
So was I. I've ordered it now after reading as much as possible about it and from what I've read I'm fairly sure it's 10 bit.
gazman090970
20 Nov 16#36
It makes no difference as i said in a previous post it's peak brightness and lack of local dimming means it will not be a good performer when it comes to HDR.
shaffy_oppa
21 Nov 16#38
Looking at it you can see it's not 10bit and even if it is the HDR did nothing for it because of its poor brightness. Take a look at it in store then look at a OLED or a Samsung KS7+ and you'll see this TV basically doesn't have HDR.
kaiser051
21 Nov 161#39
I enquired about this tv a while ago and after emailing sony they comfirmed it is a 8 bit panel which can accept a HDR signal but can not process it as HDR it is definitely not 10 bit and cannot process HDR
eddynoo1
21 Nov 16#40
So it's a bit naughty then as it has HDR all over the sales pitch
Jams80 to eddynoo1
21 Nov 16#41
It's the wild west regards 4K and HDR... manufacturers can say pretty much anything they like within a certain framework, even if it isn't what it actually is. Consumers basically need to be investigative journalists to actually find out the truth on a product these days.
emiratesstadium
21 Nov 16#42
So now it's been confirmed it's not a 10 bit panel, do I cancel my order or wait to see if something better pops up this week?
I need some help :disappointed:
eddynoo1 to emiratesstadium
21 Nov 16#43
Same situation for me - with a mates staff discount and a few left over points I have this pre ordered for £509 - I'm undecided anyone help ?
zchari5
21 Nov 16#44
Was impressed in RS looking at the demo's for both the 9000 and 7000 but they wouldn't show me SD/ normal HD content on it so not sure if they are really worth the extra. Had any experience with them. Also I would have to chose either the 8000 or 9000 instead of the 7000 due to the central pedestal. I've heard they aren't worth the extra so it gals me to pay extra just because the design of the 7000 means I would have to buy a new TV stand.
RonBurgundy1
21 Nov 16#45
This will be cheaper in 11 mins on amazon black Friday deal
viper1402
21 Nov 16#46
Personally no experience with the 9000 my budget was 1000 for a 49inch however reading reviews and specs on rtings and other websites the 8000 seems superior to the 7000 but work the 400 quid? That's personal opinion/cash/ use. For me I think I may have to go for the 8000 just going to see what Black Friday gives in terms of discount but I can't see the 9000 being worth the extra, 8000 is probably the best tv before you start to pay money for an oled.
viper1402
21 Nov 16#47
For 500quid this is a brilliant tv, putting aside the 8 or 10 bit argument, you'll be paying nearly double for a 10bit panel
RonBurgundy1
21 Nov 16#48
only £ 529 on amazon...be quick
be11aml
21 Nov 16#49
All gone on Amazon, waitlist only
emiratesstadium
21 Nov 16#50
If you read the reviews on the tesco site they're all saying it's 10bit and have posted pictures proving that the tv runs it on the xbox.
Think I might be keeping my order now :laughing:
slannmage
21 Nov 16#51
rtings gave this the best HDR Gaming panel you can buy today in this price range and size. People can say "not 10bit" all they like but the fact is it's beating out some TVs with confirmed 10 bit panels and it has no dithering. Although they said we can confirm that the Sony X800D does in fact have an 10 bit panel.
People need to judge with their eyes and not just blind numbers thrown around.
When sending an 12-bit signal to the Sony X800D, 8-bit gradation cannot be seen and our gradient look very smooth, so it can display up to 10-bit signal pretty good. To say if it is a true 10-bit or and very good 8-bit with dithering, it is very hard to be 100% sure and manufacturer are always very discreet on this subject. But in the case of the Sony X800D, we can only say that it can display a 10-bit signal pretty good without problem.
viper1402
21 Nov 16#52
Judge with your eyes all you want but it still won't make it a 10bit panel. Facts are facts.
deanpullen
22 Nov 16#53
The fact is I've only seen one site state it's 8bit and multiple sites and tests state its 10bit.
gazman090970 to deanpullen
22 Nov 16#54
I think there is confusion over ability to accept a 10 bit signal and being a 10 bit panel the same happened a few weeks back on this thread the reality being it was never going to be a 10 bit panel.Having looked through a lengthy thread on the highly regarded avforums site it's pretty much the same situation Sony have been asked and will not disclose the panel specs which is suspicious but a distinguished member of that forum suspects it is a 8 + 2 panel,you say multiple test sites this is contrary to the avforums site where they are waiting for a full professional review of the XD80 there are none available(this was 3 days ago) at the end of the day this will be a very good set no two ways about it but if you are specifically looking for HDR at a level where it is going to really work it will be a let down compared to sets that are Premium UHD certified at this time that means an extra £210 for a Samsung UE43KS7500 but who knows what black friday will bring to the table.
deanpullen
22 Nov 161#55
I think @gazman090970 sums the whole thing up very well!
eddynoo1
22 Nov 16#56
Had It delivered today think I'll hold off opening until after Black Friday- thanks for the info on the sets I had a good play in jl today and I think my want/don't want list differs from most e.g. Hate curved screens must be able to use kodi without external boxes (wall mounted ) but I'll see if bf throws anything else into contention
zee84
5 Dec 16#57
I was looking at the KD43XD8305BU (a model exclusive to curry's but I'm sure its the same one). This was next to a Samsung SUHD UE43KS7500 and whilst the colour was not as defined as the Samsung (which is a 10 bit) it really did give it a run for its money the superiority of the Samsung's colour was only noticeable from close up. I am still deciding whether to go for the KD43XD8305BU for £599 or the Samsung UE43KS7500 for £799.
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The XboxOneS states its 10-bit when configuring it too.
http://uk.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x800d
Update 09/08/2016: Our original test was showing an incorrect color depth of 8 bit due to some incorrect drivers on our system, but after some correction to our test apparatus, we tested again the color depth and we can confirm that the Sony X800D do in fact have an 10 bit panel. Also supports 444 chroma.
Can't really find anywhere confirming if this is 10 bit. How reliable are the links posted above, really needs to be advertised on the Sony website.
Can't really find anywhere confirming if this is 10 bit. How reliable are the links posted above, really needs to be advertised on the Sony website.
both are being sold at just over £620 at Argos
Can't find any UK sites saying what the panel actually is though. I'm on the edge on buying it.
Not especially helpful information I know, but honest.
Argos about a month ago. Its bloody brilliant. :smiley:
If a better offer comes up through black Friday will be easier to cancel then take the tele back.
Also went through quidco, hopefully it works with the code as quidco are giving 10% cashback for the next 2 hours.
100% this isn't 10bit
Edit:
http://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/a20c636
The numbers on the end are just the colour but this is the correct model, I was in richer sounds yesterday about to buy one and they confirmed it's 8bit,
I'm now going to buy the Samsung 7000 or 8000 depending on price drops on Black Friday, go and look at them in a shop the difference between this and 7000 this easy to see.
However for the price this is a very very good tv.
I need some help :disappointed:
Think I might be keeping my order now :laughing:
People need to judge with their eyes and not just blind numbers thrown around.
When sending an 12-bit signal to the Sony X800D, 8-bit gradation cannot be seen and our gradient look very smooth, so it can display up to 10-bit signal pretty good. To say if it is a true 10-bit or and very good 8-bit with dithering, it is very hard to be 100% sure and manufacturer are always very discreet on this subject. But in the case of the Sony X800D, we can only say that it can display a 10-bit signal pretty good without problem.