Note, as with the Clarity card, it will still charge interest on cash withdrawals from the date of withdrawal.
thankshotdeals to zerocrop
15 Nov 16#42
No this is a credit card - I have it for 10 years and it's great - if u top up the card before you overseas then you can use it in cash machines at no cash charge and at market exchange rates.
rainbowwheel
14 Nov 161#2
This one is better, or the Halifax clarity card?
stevehaley to rainbowwheel
14 Nov 161#22
For normal foreign cash purchases they are about the same. Both cards are MasterCard and use previous day mid rate.
For atm withdrawals the clarity beats it mostly because you can get a lower interest rate on the clarity and Halifax aren't so precious over preloading.
I have both and preload the clarity for interest free cash withdrawals at mid rate.
For the eu there is an odd rule that states you must be able to work out what it will cost you so cards use the previous day's rates which are published. I have been caught a couple of times abroad by large currency movements and both times I was able to withdraw cash from the atm at the old rate up to midnight.
chocci to rainbowwheel
15 Nov 161#26
Santander 18.9% interest on cash withdrawals
Halifax clarity varies between 13% and 16% dependent on initial contract offer
Generally, I just set up a payment scheduled to pay off the amount withdrawn on the same day so interest is zero.
I agree but the Thai bank charges probably apply to all cards.
colin4man
14 Nov 162#4
I can't see what exchange rate they will give you on foreign transactions. Presumably that is where they make their money because the no foreign transaction fee only apply if you use the local currency.
I still think the Revolut card is better. It's a debit card not a credit card but there are no fees involved (if you stick to their fair use policy) and you get the live inter bank exchange rate on transactions.
Monaco Blue to colin4man
14 Nov 16#14
Agree re Revolut card. Just returned from US and borrowed the mini me's card after being harassed into using it! Brill rate. Now applying for my own.
mikeyrobbo to colin4man
10 Feb 17#64
the visa rate
Astec
14 Nov 161#5
If it's a debit card then it can't charge interest unless you are overdrawn can it?
EveshamLad
14 Nov 161#6
Payment scheme exchange rate applies
Rates can be found at mastercard.com or visaeurope.com
Dazza34
14 Nov 16#7
The Post Office credit card allows you to buy things abroad with no exchange fees
EveshamLad to Dazza34
14 Nov 161#8
I think this only applies to their Platinum card, and there is a cash handling fee of 2.5% (minimum £3)
This deal offers "No cash withdrawal fee anywhere in the world"
LesD
14 Nov 166#9
Oh dear....HUKD seeks to confuse yet again!
Slowly does it......
The post says it's about a CREDIT CARD but the get deal link goes to the current account cheque account which issues a DEBIT card.
The DEBIT card charges fees, but (you're right) no interest.
The CREDIT card does NOT charge fees, but does charge interest.
All clear now?
rally
14 Nov 16#10
I just tried signing up with revolut, they not taking any new users on at the moment.
Thanks OP for the heads up on the zero credit card, I phoned and got accepted for one.
landros1
14 Nov 16#11
Santander 123 & Halifax Clarity cards are at the top of their game.
Spartan88
14 Nov 16#12
Good Credit Card for foreign purchases. I already use a Nationwide Select Credit Card abroad but will get my girlfriend (she banks with Santander)to apply to this before our next foreign holiday. The exchange rate will be better as this is a MasterCard rather than Nationwide which is Visa. Might get one myself. HOT.
Spartan88
14 Nov 16#13
It doesn't charge interest on local currency purchases if statement balance paid in full.
Jules_HT
14 Nov 16#15
How does this stack up against the Halifax clarity card (which is also a Mastercard with "No foreign transaction fees on purchases and cash withdrawals abroad when made in the local currency" and "No cash withdrawal fees at home and abroad")?
Also I'm wondering whether Santander will be up for swapping an Everyday Credit Card (which I already have), for a Zero card. Will update if I get around to ringing and asking.
monkeyhanger75
14 Nov 16#16
I'm cooling rapidly on Santander 123. My current account is about to halve in monthly interest, looking to switch.
Firefly1 to monkeyhanger75
14 Nov 161#18
About to? It already has from 2 weeks ago!
landros1 to monkeyhanger75
14 Nov 16#19
I emailed them to ask why in 3 months they had doubled what I pay them (monthly fee to pm) whilst halving the interest rates down from 3% to 1.5%) all because of a 1/4% bank rate drop.
I accused them of corporate greed.
I was not surprised to not receive a reply.
Few challengers left as TSB has dropped their best rates from 5% to 2%.
pgjeffery
14 Nov 16#17
Had one of these for yonks - great for overseas.
Only point to note (& I've looked in the current T&C's and cant see it) I was told in branch and on the telephone that there was a charge for cash withdrawals in the UK as the card was meant to be used overseas.
(I had a credit balance from a refund and they just transfered the money to my account instead).
chocolatum to pgjeffery
14 Nov 16#24
If are withdrawing cash using the zero credit card you'll be charged interest up to when the balance is paid off in full. If you withdraw 100Euros for example then your balance is paid off a couple of weeks later, it will be around a pound in interest. You can do a faster payment to the credit card account on the balance when the transaction shows up to prevent the interest accruing over time. I have used one for several years for overseas travel/work.
Chick_el_box to pgjeffery
15 Nov 16#41
I have used the zero Mastercard for quite a few years primarily for foreign fee-free use. Santander don't seem to bother about small credit balances, though I've never tried a large one. Bear in mind that the initial deduction (visible in pending transactions) to the account is subject to correction a day or two after the transaction if seeking to fund a cash withdrawal.
I made a £ withdrawal only a couple of months ago (a shop refund, preserved the cashback in the original payment card) and there was no fee.
Cheapasnowt
14 Nov 16#20
The problem is if you had this account back when the fee was lower and interest was higher it was a no brainer. Those with say over £10k in it are still finding with the changes it is the best of a bad bunch. All of the banks have used the small drop in interest rates to make a huge difference in their rates. I'm sure if and when interest rates increase they won't be changing the accounts and rates
huangxq2
14 Nov 16#21
Thanks OP, I just applied online.
the links above all directed to the wrong page.
People need to google and find Santander Zero credit card.
jamesallsup
14 Nov 16#23
all banks do this, they either give you "free" fees and a shody exchange rate (and the bigger the buy the more you lose out) or the charge you a small fee, usually capped but give you pretty much the chrrent exchange rate. then you get the greedy ones that do both. its not a deal worth getting excoted about - usually a pre-paid holiday card can give you better short term savings.
chocci to jamesallsup
15 Nov 161#25
Complete nonsense. The Halifax clarity card and this card use intra bank exchange rates and no fees except minimal interest. Eg I withdrew €500 abroad a few months back and paid it back upon my return. Total interest 63p. Prepaid holiday cards generally offer poor exchange rates or loading fees.
officegimp
15 Nov 16#27
if you take money out of the ATM in thailand, you will get charged about £7 for each transaction - all the banks do it here, they have stated charging me £14 to bring money into my thai account as well from a bank transfer from UK account, this is a new thing though.
Nothing to do with this card, its a Thai ATM fee.
whatupyo to officegimp
12 Dec 16#56
Unless you use the CitiBank ATMs in Bangkok. No withdrawal fee!
chenzz
15 Nov 16#28
for Halifax clarity card, someone on this forum mentioned there wouldn't be interest occur even if you withdraw cash as long as you pay full for your balance every month.
Anyone could confirm this or otherwise?
jobibear
15 Nov 161#29
No, you pay interest from the day you take cash out. But go online and pay in amount straight away and cost is minimal. Use my Halifax Clarity card for long-haul backpacking - a Godsend from the days of rip-off credit/debit card charges and travellers cheques.
xdavemarshallx
15 Nov 16#30
As above, but bear in mind that the interest charge, even if you settle on the due date, is insignificant compared with the usual withdrawal fees and/or interest rate loading of many other cards.
MCGONIS
15 Nov 16#31
Thanks, applied & accepted
chenzz
15 Nov 16#32
Is the statement from your previous experience? You have been charged because you didn't pay the cash out back into the credit card straight away? If you are getting the information from T&S, then it might be different from their actual practice.
My experience is that there were a few times I paid about 1 - 2 days after my cash withdrawn overseas, and NO interest occurred AT ALL.
rally
15 Nov 16#33
How do you do this?
chocci
15 Nov 16#34
Either via the app or online banking
dreadzone101
15 Nov 16#35
If you try editing their deal, it's the link they used but for some reason, clicking Santander links appears to automatically forward you to current accounts page. I tried with http://www.santander.co.uk/uk/insurance and clicking it still forwards you to Current accounts page. Copy and pasting the link text: [ santander.co.uk/uk/credit-cards/zero-credit-card ] into address bar will work though
stevehaley
15 Nov 16#36
That would be about right as it will take at least one day for the amount to hit your card account and they tend to ignore interest sup 1p.
chocci
15 Nov 16#37
Thanks but only the op can change the deal url
dreadzone101
15 Nov 16#38
You misinterpreted my point. I wasn't suggesting for you to change it for them. I said that if you go into edit, you can see what is the address link they used in the deal. It is the exact same as the "proper link". My point was that whether you click 'Get Deal' or the hyperlink for the "proper link" in your comment, it'll still forward you to the wrong page.
It's this one, the Santander Zero. I too have had mine for years and front load it before heading overseas and you simply withdraw what you need when you need, taking care to choose the local currency (say EUR) and not selecting to have the ATM/Bank charge in GBP. You can also use it to make online purchases in any currency with no fees. Exchange rate is always better than what you can get on high st (not by much, but it's better).
rally
15 Nov 16#45
How do you front load it?
stevehaley
16 Nov 161#46
Exchange rate is normally substantially better than the high street. If we take today as an indication for 100 Euro then
Halifax £86.46
Best central London 87.50 - pre booked
Thomas cook 88.20
Post office 88.40
Barclays 91.10
Other credit cards min 89.10
Other credit cards from atm 91.03
Changing currency abroad especially out of hours in fx bureaus will be even more expensive.
stevehaley
16 Nov 16#47
Other very important point
NEVER EVER let a card machine abroad bill you in GBP
stevehaley
16 Nov 16#48
Preloading is paying in money to the credit card before you spend anything.
Preloading only works if you don't use the card for other things as the money will be used to pay off the last statement balance of not already paid off followed by any charges since the last statement (cash withdrawals first).
This is why I run both a zero and a clarity card. I use the zero for day to day expenditure abroad and the clarity for foreign atm cash withdrawals.
I don't normally preload as Halifax don't allow credit balances, instead I work out what I think the amount is add 5% and pay it the following day. I then check the following day on the web what the actual was and pay any remainder if required. A bit painful but as I can spend extended time abroad it saves me a fortune.
rally to stevehaley
16 Nov 16#49
Thanks for that.
I spoke to halifax and santander today, they said if you withdraw cash from an atm and pay it within 24hours, you will not get charged any interest.
Also Santander said preloading is against their t&s.
How does one preload in a non sterling currency?
I don't normally preload as Halifax don't allow credit balances, instead I work out what I think the amount is add 5% and pay it the following day. I then check the following day on the web what the actual was and pay any remainder if required. A bit painful but as I can spend extended time abroad it saves me a fortune.
Chick_el_box
16 Nov 16#50
(a) Minor infringements of preloading have attracted no sanction for me at least, and others have said they do it routinely before travel
(b) No need to worry about the foreign currency aspect. Just transfer in sterling and because they offer the fairest of exchange rates then you can rely on that to keep you sweet Steve makes a good point, and if you can organise your affairs to use two fee-free cards then it's an ideal solution
rally
16 Nov 16#51
Thanks!
What is the exact advantage of preloading?
dtorbett to rally
16 Nov 16#52
I put all my spending money (well most of it) on to the zero card before heading overseas. Then when there I use the card to buy stuff as normal with chip and pin, but also I can go to a machine and take out money (in EUR) and attract no fees on any of that providing I stay within the limit of what I loaded in the first place.
If you don't preload and withdraw money from a cash machine, you'd need to Internet bank transfer that night, or next day, and both of them are usually write off's for me as I'm pickled :smiley:
thankshotdeals to rally
7 Jan 17#62
If you withdraw cash you don't get charged interest - which I normally do
rally
16 Nov 16#53
dtorbelt, thanks for that.
I thought preloading still incurred an interest charge for atm withdrawels.
stevehaley
16 Nov 16#54
This has got me looking at the options again and especially prepaid cards.
The Halifax card is definately King among the credit cards simply because the Apr is so low (12.5%) so if you don't immediately pay off cash withdrawals you won't get penalised too badly.
Prepay cards have the attraction that you are shielded from currency movements but generally load the initial exchange rate by 0.5-3.0 % (see https://www.moneysupermarket.com/prepaid-cards/euros/). However there appears to be a newcomer called revolut that stands out as the loading for used or euro appears to me to be at 0% up to £5000 per month and 0.5% there after. Cash withdrawals are free up to £500 per month which is a bit low but probably ok for 1 or 2 week holidays.
Revolut is a smartphone/iPad app that can be used as a bank account in use/eur and gbp. In addition you can make bank payments in most liquid currencies. Add to that you can get a revolut (debit?) card linked off the account.
This actually appears to be a full fx platform in addition to being able to run a card off it. IE you can pay euros to a foreign bank account for no charges up to £5k per month. This is very attractive especially as small payments are normally the most expensive. It doesn't allow for receiving bank charges though. Would love to hear from anyone who has investigated this..
Charge details here. https://revolut.com/faq/gettingstarted.php?cat_id=10&faq_id_according=52&cat_name=Common%20Faqs#parentVerticalTab10
Note this is just what I have garnered so far from the website.
rally
16 Nov 16#55
I installed revolut after someone mentioned it in this thread, but it's not allowing new accounts for now.
landros1
12 Dec 16#58
All credit cards only charge interest if not paid off in full every month from what I understand.
landros1
12 Dec 16#59
Interest is charged for cash withdrawals from the day it is taken out unlike spending on them.
stevehaley
12 Dec 16#60
Technically you are correct but in practice cash withdrawals don't appear on your account until following day.
thankshotdeals
7 Jan 17#61
The Santander zero
mikeyrobbo
10 Feb 17#63
question about the cash withdrawals. MSE seems to make it sound like you need to get on online banking immediately! and pay it off. surely it's just the same as with an ordinary purchase and as long as you pay off when statement comes you don't get charged interest?
Opening post
No foreign transaction fees on purchases when made in the local currency
No cash withdrawal fee anywhere in the world
No monthly fee
Top comments
Slowly does it......
The post says it's about a CREDIT CARD but the get deal link goes to the current account cheque account which issues a DEBIT card.
The DEBIT card charges fees, but (you're right) no interest.
The CREDIT card does NOT charge fees, but does charge interest.
All clear now?
All comments (64)
"If you use your VISA debit card for transactions abroad, you may be charged a foreign exchange fee."
Here's the correct link to the Zero card.
http://www.santander.co.uk/uk/credit-cards/zero-credit-card
Note, as with the Clarity card, it will still charge interest on cash withdrawals from the date of withdrawal.
For atm withdrawals the clarity beats it mostly because you can get a lower interest rate on the clarity and Halifax aren't so precious over preloading.
I have both and preload the clarity for interest free cash withdrawals at mid rate.
For the eu there is an odd rule that states you must be able to work out what it will cost you so cards use the previous day's rates which are published. I have been caught a couple of times abroad by large currency movements and both times I was able to withdraw cash from the atm at the old rate up to midnight.
Halifax clarity varies between 13% and 16% dependent on initial contract offer
Generally, I just set up a payment scheduled to pay off the amount withdrawn on the same day so interest is zero.
Proper link
http://www.santander.co.uk/uk/credit-cards/zero-credit-card
I still think the Revolut card is better. It's a debit card not a credit card but there are no fees involved (if you stick to their fair use policy) and you get the live inter bank exchange rate on transactions.
Rates can be found at mastercard.com or visaeurope.com
This deal offers "No cash withdrawal fee anywhere in the world"
Slowly does it......
The post says it's about a CREDIT CARD but the get deal link goes to the current account cheque account which issues a DEBIT card.
The DEBIT card charges fees, but (you're right) no interest.
The CREDIT card does NOT charge fees, but does charge interest.
All clear now?
I just tried signing up with revolut, they not taking any new users on at the moment.
Thanks OP for the heads up on the zero credit card, I phoned and got accepted for one.
Also I'm wondering whether Santander will be up for swapping an Everyday Credit Card (which I already have), for a Zero card. Will update if I get around to ringing and asking.
I accused them of corporate greed.
I was not surprised to not receive a reply.
Few challengers left as TSB has dropped their best rates from 5% to 2%.
Only point to note (& I've looked in the current T&C's and cant see it) I was told in branch and on the telephone that there was a charge for cash withdrawals in the UK as the card was meant to be used overseas.
(I had a credit balance from a refund and they just transfered the money to my account instead).
I made a £ withdrawal only a couple of months ago (a shop refund, preserved the cashback in the original payment card) and there was no fee.
the links above all directed to the wrong page.
People need to google and find Santander Zero credit card.
Nothing to do with this card, its a Thai ATM fee.
Anyone could confirm this or otherwise?
My experience is that there were a few times I paid about 1 - 2 days after my cash withdrawn overseas, and NO interest occurred AT ALL.
The tag line says 'Copyright © 2016' but I bet the software hasn't seen much change since the site was opened.
These bugs have been around for years.
Halifax £86.46
Best central London 87.50 - pre booked
Thomas cook 88.20
Post office 88.40
Barclays 91.10
Other credit cards min 89.10
Other credit cards from atm 91.03
Changing currency abroad especially out of hours in fx bureaus will be even more expensive.
NEVER EVER let a card machine abroad bill you in GBP
Preloading only works if you don't use the card for other things as the money will be used to pay off the last statement balance of not already paid off followed by any charges since the last statement (cash withdrawals first).
This is why I run both a zero and a clarity card. I use the zero for day to day expenditure abroad and the clarity for foreign atm cash withdrawals.
I don't normally preload as Halifax don't allow credit balances, instead I work out what I think the amount is add 5% and pay it the following day. I then check the following day on the web what the actual was and pay any remainder if required. A bit painful but as I can spend extended time abroad it saves me a fortune.
I spoke to halifax and santander today, they said if you withdraw cash from an atm and pay it within 24hours, you will not get charged any interest.
Also Santander said preloading is against their t&s.
How does one preload in a non sterling currency?
I don't normally preload as Halifax don't allow credit balances, instead I work out what I think the amount is add 5% and pay it the following day. I then check the following day on the web what the actual was and pay any remainder if required. A bit painful but as I can spend extended time abroad it saves me a fortune.
(b) No need to worry about the foreign currency aspect. Just transfer in sterling and because they offer the fairest of exchange rates then you can rely on that to keep you sweet
Steve makes a good point, and if you can organise your affairs to use two fee-free cards then it's an ideal solution
What is the exact advantage of preloading?
If you don't preload and withdraw money from a cash machine, you'd need to Internet bank transfer that night, or next day, and both of them are usually write off's for me as I'm pickled :smiley:
I thought preloading still incurred an interest charge for atm withdrawels.
The Halifax card is definately King among the credit cards simply because the Apr is so low (12.5%) so if you don't immediately pay off cash withdrawals you won't get penalised too badly.
Prepay cards have the attraction that you are shielded from currency movements but generally load the initial exchange rate by 0.5-3.0 % (see https://www.moneysupermarket.com/prepaid-cards/euros/). However there appears to be a newcomer called revolut that stands out as the loading for used or euro appears to me to be at 0% up to £5000 per month and 0.5% there after. Cash withdrawals are free up to £500 per month which is a bit low but probably ok for 1 or 2 week holidays.
Revolut is a smartphone/iPad app that can be used as a bank account in use/eur and gbp. In addition you can make bank payments in most liquid currencies. Add to that you can get a revolut (debit?) card linked off the account.
This actually appears to be a full fx platform in addition to being able to run a card off it. IE you can pay euros to a foreign bank account for no charges up to £5k per month. This is very attractive especially as small payments are normally the most expensive. It doesn't allow for receiving bank charges though. Would love to hear from anyone who has investigated this..
Charge details here. https://revolut.com/faq/gettingstarted.php?cat_id=10&faq_id_according=52&cat_name=Common%20Faqs#parentVerticalTab10
Note this is just what I have garnered so far from the website.