I think the Very deal at £180 after credit back is good.
J4GG4 to AJ92
6 Nov 167#5
Very is not very popular on here, regardless of how cheap something is.
blowbrown to AJ92
7 Nov 161#37
The cash back deal ended on 3/11/16.
Dj CUE
6 Nov 161#3
Agreed a good deal from shopto. Just thought that with a 2 year guarantee it was worth highlighting. Hope that JL offer staff the staff discount on this.
oUkTuRkEyIII
6 Nov 162#4
I think? EU regulations state these have 2 years anyway so do JL bump it up to 4?
I'm not been that guy but for £3 extra then Dying Light EE, Lego Star Wars is worth the extra.
abhijitdash123
6 Nov 162#6
You may want to read the EU regulations if you want to use that. There are literally so many clauses that you will never be able to get that warranty in the UK.
So John Lewis does an amazing job in at least giving an year extra on top of the year provided by Sony.
oUkTuRkEyIII
6 Nov 161#7
EU offers 2 year warranty. Fact.
1 year of that from Shopto is collect and replace. (Which is better than Sony's 1 year)
DJ Cue was fast enough to like your comment but didn't reply to mine. John Lewis 2 year in every title is a sales pitch on these items. When you are playing with other peoples money my comments are harmless.
Dj CUE
6 Nov 161#8
Have you ever tried to use the EU warranty? John Lewis honour this with no questions asked, that is why I liked the comment, I like the John Lewis warranty! I agree that the shopto deal is a good deal, I am just sharing a deal that I found whilst looking for something completely different.
oUkTuRkEyIII
6 Nov 161#9
You didn't ask me about that until #6 jumped in. Like I say, I'm just handing out options when playing with other peoples money. I don't think this is a good deal. My opinion.
Dj CUE
6 Nov 161#10
I am not trying to argue with you! You post good deals, I am just asking about the 2 year EU warranty as my brother spend 4 months trying to get Apple to sort out his iPhone under the 2 year EU warranty. They eventually sorted out the issue but said they were doing it as he was a good customer and not because of the warranty.
steviedude100
6 Nov 16#11
game has a better deal. 229.99 call of duty, battlefront and £15 now TV voucher
Already mentioned in comment #1, no one likes a link dropper. :stuck_out_tongue:
None of my comments have been aimed at you pal I'm just giving options out. I'll go away now :smiley:
rodman
7 Nov 16#14
cheers, spam reported !!
deaglecat
7 Nov 16#15
online only ?
AJ92
7 Nov 16#16
It doesn't matter if it is or isn't popular. The point is its currently the cheapest after the credit. I haven't had issues with Very that haven't been resolved.
muely
7 Nov 16#17
Quote sale of goods act and the trimmings and I'm yet to find a retailer that won't replace/refund past what the EU says/manufacturers warranty.
PS3 Comet replaced up to 3 years despite doing only saying they would do 2 if you did not mention consumer law in your conversation. Mention this stuff and the conversation immediately changes. Pay on credit card for all of these and you can ask your credit card company to refund and go after the retailer.
Amazon replaced my iPod after 2 years for a new one. Currys have recently done the same (They went 3 years under sale of goods act for new iPods).
AStonedRaichu
7 Nov 16#18
John Lewis warranty is actually better than sonys, my tv broke after 3 year and they just swapped it the same day. There amazing.
Spark
7 Nov 16#19
Sony's warranty isn't the worth the paper its printed on. One of my PS4 controllers broke and I was asked by Amazon to pursue it with the manufacturer. I waited on the phone in a queue for over 45 minutes when I called Sony before I was cut off. Fortunately Amazon took care of it but if it had been most retailers then I would have been SoL.
-BA-
7 Nov 161#20
The Coop deal earlier got slated (I guess because it was OOS) but it is now showing in stock:
Sony PlayStation 4 Slim 1TB Console in Black & Fifa 17 & Dualshock 4 V2 Controller in Black - £289.99. Add an HDMI cable to take it over £300 and use CP30 to bring it down to £274.99 + £4.99 delivery.
Seems a pretty solid deal as you could sell the the controller for c. £40 and the game for £25 ish?
chocci to -BA-
7 Nov 16#23
That's £215 for the console which is rubbish tbh
2minutenoodles
7 Nov 163#21
Had worse experiences with shopto.
xeroc
7 Nov 162#22
Whilst the so-called 'EU 2 year warranty' does exist, it is largely inconsequential if the transaction took place in England & Wales. The limitation period for a simple (i.e. not a specialty) contract is 6 years. Therefore, in theory, you can sue for breach of contract (which in a sales contract would likely be for a breach of the implied term of fitness for purpose / satisfactory quality / adherence to description) up until that time. The 'EU 2 year warranty' is therefore displaced by superior domestic consumer rights legislation under the CRA 2015 anyway. However, it is important to note that statutory rights (and I am simplifying things greatly here) relate to defects that have arisen at the time of delivery. Defects that arise after delivery are not covered (save for where it occurs within 6 months of delivery, and a presumption of defect arises in favour of the consumer).
In summary, it's a lot more complicated than claiming 'all retailer/manufacturer warranties are a waste of time due to EU/domestic law', though you may indeed have some luck in blinding certain retailers with science. Further, although the 6 year limitation period exists a court would have to weigh various factors including the price, age, and usage of the thing complained of (e.g. don't expect to recover for a 5.5year old washing machine that cost you £99).
SOGA no longer applies to transactions post 1 October 2015; see Consumer Rights Act 2015.
nobbylad
7 Nov 16#24
Don't John Lewis also offer their 'never knowingly undersold' guarantee for 28 days AFTER purchase too? So potentially if better deals come out during Black Friday etc, you could get the difference back as a refund?
crazylegs to nobbylad
7 Nov 162#30
It won't include sales or black friday sales!
-BA-
7 Nov 16#25
For 1TB?
MR1123
7 Nov 16#26
Eu warranty doesn't cover many things, this and iPhones and are not covered amongst other things. Many people have tried from this site and myself Included.
chocci
7 Nov 16#27
Oops - missed that bit :sunglasses:
nomnomnomnom
7 Nov 162#28
Fact: The EU directive 1999/44/EC was not fully implemented into UK law, only certain parts of it.
Every time someone brings up the "2 Year EU Warranty" it just confuses matters significantly. It has no relation on the ability for someone to claim in the UK, as our own laws are stronger.
Not only that, but people normally think that the "2 year warranty" means that if anything goes wrong, they're entitled to a replacement / refund. This isn't even true for a country that has implemented the 1999/44/EC, as it specifically doesn't include wear and tear.
xeroc has covered it really well.
The CRA is more complex than you're giving credit for, and the 'EU 2 year warranty' phrase has caused mass confusion.
johnthehuman
7 Nov 16#29
Wait, you mean we can have our own laws, outside that of EU directives?
Someone needs to mention this to the Brexiters before it's too lat.... Oh.
nomnomnomnom
7 Nov 16#31
It's regulation vs directives.
A directive is basically 'You need to achieve this, but we're not going to dictate how' - it is left to national 'local' law to decide how to do it.
A regulation is a legal act, that must be met in the way it's laid out (generally speaking).
jimbo23
7 Nov 162#32
UK Warranty somewhat works like this:
Up to:
14 days - Generally if you change your mind, you can get a full refund.
30 days - If goods are faulty - you can get a refund.
6 months - If product cant be replaced of repaired then in most cases, a full refund.
6 years - If your goods do not last a reasonable length of time, then you may get some money back.
There's obviously going to be some slight stipulations in the above, but that's the general guidelines.
xeroc to jimbo23
8 Nov 16#42
Thanks for your support - guess I chose the right career after all :wink:
seanmorris100
7 Nov 16#33
Heat is at 666 number of the beast! Its a trap!
slinkydonkey
7 Nov 16#34
Thanks ordered don't see the point in the new (PS4 Pro) one its nearly twice as much and I don't have a 4k TV with one game this is a good deal for me :smiley:
dannyjones106
7 Nov 16#35
Sony were fantastic with me replacing my faulty ps4.
uid
7 Nov 16#36
jep, i can only agree with this
anyway, great deal! very temptating :smile:
abhijitdash123
7 Nov 16#38
Guys, lets stop fighting over the warranty.
For ease, i have tried to put all our fellow HUKD members into two category:
Those who can argue with retailers, if needed and are ready to go to court for claiming warranty, need not go for this deal and go for the cheaper options if any available.
Those who want to avoid all the hassle and just go to our very own John Lewis Customer Service in the back of the hundreds of stores and get the item replaced conveniently without breaking a sweat, get this deal :smiley:
Peace and HOT :smiley:
dylan240
7 Nov 16#39
nah legit this is the maddest deal i have seen for the ps4 pro!
slinkydonkey to dylan240
7 Nov 161#40
Should of gone to spec savers! :wink:
exeter
8 Nov 16#41
it does include sales and black Friday
crazylegs
11 Nov 16#43
When you go to buy on those days you will be disappointed as friends were on the last black friday deals day!
See ya! :man:
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£3 more at Shopto with 2 games. Other option was posted with BF1 but I can't find the link.
Edit: found it: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ps4-slim-500gb-black-console-battlefield-1-one-extra-game-229-85-shopto-2538454
Edit 2 sorry: Game have it with the new COD, Battlefront and NowTV also £3 more: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/playstation-4-slim-500gb-call-duty-battlefront-now-tv-229-99-game-2541407
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£3 more at Shopto with 2 games. Other option was posted with BF1 but I can't find the link.
Edit: found it: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ps4-slim-500gb-black-console-battlefield-1-one-extra-game-229-85-shopto-2538454
Edit 2 sorry: Game have it with the new COD, Battlefront and NowTV also £3 more: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/playstation-4-slim-500gb-call-duty-battlefront-now-tv-229-99-game-2541407
I'm not been that guy but for £3 extra then Dying Light EE, Lego Star Wars is worth the extra.
So John Lewis does an amazing job in at least giving an year extra on top of the year provided by Sony.
1 year of that from Shopto is collect and replace. (Which is better than Sony's 1 year)
DJ Cue was fast enough to like your comment but didn't reply to mine. John Lewis 2 year in every title is a sales pitch on these items. When you are playing with other peoples money my comments are harmless.
None of my comments have been aimed at you pal I'm just giving options out. I'll go away now :smiley:
PS3 Comet replaced up to 3 years despite doing only saying they would do 2 if you did not mention consumer law in your conversation. Mention this stuff and the conversation immediately changes. Pay on credit card for all of these and you can ask your credit card company to refund and go after the retailer.
Amazon replaced my iPod after 2 years for a new one. Currys have recently done the same (They went 3 years under sale of goods act for new iPods).
Sony PlayStation 4 Slim 1TB Console in Black & Fifa 17 & Dualshock 4 V2 Controller in Black - £289.99. Add an HDMI cable to take it over £300 and use CP30 to bring it down to £274.99 + £4.99 delivery.
Seems a pretty solid deal as you could sell the the controller for c. £40 and the game for £25 ish?
In summary, it's a lot more complicated than claiming 'all retailer/manufacturer warranties are a waste of time due to EU/domestic law', though you may indeed have some luck in blinding certain retailers with science. Further, although the 6 year limitation period exists a court would have to weigh various factors including the price, age, and usage of the thing complained of (e.g. don't expect to recover for a 5.5year old washing machine that cost you £99).
SOGA no longer applies to transactions post 1 October 2015; see Consumer Rights Act 2015.
Every time someone brings up the "2 Year EU Warranty" it just confuses matters significantly. It has no relation on the ability for someone to claim in the UK, as our own laws are stronger.
Not only that, but people normally think that the "2 year warranty" means that if anything goes wrong, they're entitled to a replacement / refund. This isn't even true for a country that has implemented the 1999/44/EC, as it specifically doesn't include wear and tear.
xeroc has covered it really well.
The CRA is more complex than you're giving credit for, and the 'EU 2 year warranty' phrase has caused mass confusion.
Someone needs to mention this to the Brexiters before it's too lat.... Oh.
A directive is basically 'You need to achieve this, but we're not going to dictate how' - it is left to national 'local' law to decide how to do it.
A regulation is a legal act, that must be met in the way it's laid out (generally speaking).
Up to:
14 days - Generally if you change your mind, you can get a full refund.
30 days - If goods are faulty - you can get a refund.
6 months - If product cant be replaced of repaired then in most cases, a full refund.
6 years - If your goods do not last a reasonable length of time, then you may get some money back.
There's obviously going to be some slight stipulations in the above, but that's the general guidelines.
Thanks for your support - guess I chose the right career after all :wink:
anyway, great deal! very temptating :smile:
For ease, i have tried to put all our fellow HUKD members into two category:
Those who can argue with retailers, if needed and are ready to go to court for claiming warranty, need not go for this deal and go for the cheaper options if any available.
Those who want to avoid all the hassle and just go to our very own John Lewis Customer Service in the back of the hundreds of stores and get the item replaced conveniently without breaking a sweat, get this deal :smiley:
Peace and HOT :smiley:
See ya! :man: