Not sure if this has been posted before. This is a great deal for a 4K TV and the Ambilight sets it off. A fully fledged Android System allows usage of all apps that can be used from your phone on the big screen.
The discount code for Argos is TVS10.
Let me know if you have any luck.
Best,
Shaun
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Squelds
20 Nov 166#12
Got my son the 43" for his birthday a month ago from the deal posted. Stuck Kodi on it and havent seen him in weeks. He only comes out for food, then disappears back into his room. The TV in itself is very good, the ambilight has to be seen to be believed. From the garden its like he is having a disco even with curtains drawn. RAVE ON SON, RAVE ON!
So... avoid if you ever want to see your children again... but all in all a great set with great picture, and the added bonus of Kodi built in and no external android boxes ;-)
PS.. the code only works for delivery or pay BEFORE collection. It does NOT work on reserve and collect/pay.
emiratesstadium to stuartc74
20 Nov 165#38
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
Peew971
22 Nov 163#159
Yeah the "return no questions asked" policy makes it possible to take a leap of faith. It seems there are faulty units around more than deep issues with the TV itself, hopefully benz1ne gets an exchange or opens his second set and reports back.
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punjabi90
14 Dec 16#228
Anybody who owns this TV & has downloaded Showbox on it...can you let me know if the shows/movies look good on this 4k screen, given that Showbox usually uses 720p
spik3_my_drink
13 Dec 16#227
I'm not sure - you could call Philips support?
boulder1
13 Dec 16#226
My second set was going great for a couple of weeks, then a couple of days ago, it started throwing up what looked like two dead pixels in the centre of the screen.
However, they were only showing when watching through HDMI 1. When i moved to my ps4 (HDMI 2), they would flicker for a second as it changed, and then went away. Then the following day, it wasn't there at all, and hasn't come back.
I assume when a pixel dies, it dies? That it should be noticeable no matter what? In which case I don't know what to make of it. I would be loathe to exchange it (again), especially if it was just a momentary blip.
spik3_my_drink
12 Dec 16#225
Yes it is a great tv.enjoying mine also. thought the ambilight would just be a gimmick but it's fantastic.the above posts on configuring the picture settings were very helpful so thank you guys
pototea
12 Dec 16#224
I was initially unsure when mine arrived however, three weeks later I'm happy with it.
The sound is not great quality but most tvs in the £550 price range for 55 inch don't have great sound anyway.
I LOVE the ambilight so decided to keep the tv.
I use a Now TV box, I don't use any of the inbuilt apps.
lovelybeer
29 Nov 16#223
They're good value in my opinion for mid-tier panels. Worth looking at the settings - especially picture mode, gamma and contrast etc. Easy enough to put right as well, if it goes wrong.
pototea
29 Nov 16#222
Thanks. After playing around with it for a bit and comparing other deals over black Friday, I've decided to keep it.
I couldn't find any better deals on a 55 inch tv around the £500-£550 price point.
lovelybeer
29 Nov 161#221
Sounds like you also need an HDR enabled game to trigger the PS into pumping out an HDR signal, but at least you know.
And yes sounds like a loose power cable internally. Glad you got it sorted - I really like the Ambilight - looks very modern and classy in the right environment.
boulder1
29 Nov 161#220
Thanks for that, I didn't get it as such from the PS4, but when I stuck on Uncharted 4, it notified me that I had HDR enabled and did I want to go with those settings. So it must be seeing it ok.
With regards ambilight, I had it set to video. And it was largely fine, but it would go 'mental' and stop periodically. Sometimes a tap to the back would help, but I think overall it was a loose connection. I swapped it last night in Argos with no issues. Set up last night and didn't see any of the same happening, so hopefully good! I'll take a look at those settings though. It's always worth having a tinker to find the one that suits best. Appreciate the advice!
lovelybeer
29 Nov 161#219
You will get an on-screen notification when an HDR source is playing back - you'll then also get more settings for HDR input sources as well. So if you missed the OSD message, check settings and see if it's playing ball. You need to make sure it is in HDMI 1/2 as well ideally.
Helps hugely in getting things looking their best.
lovelybeer
29 Nov 162#217
Did you have ambilight set to follow video or music? You can turn the sensitivity down too with some settings.
You might want to experiment with settings - I changed the picture mode to "movie" and temperature to "warm" as per the AVForums Picture Perfect guide: https://www.avforums.com/PicturePerfect/
Feels weird at first, but makes a lot of sense a few hours later.
lovelybeer
29 Nov 16#216
What motion plus setting do you have enabled (if any)? It will look less choppy for football enabled, but might make other media look a bit fake/processed.
anthbobby10
29 Nov 161#215
i user this video on youtube a slightlt differenr model but it has improved my SD quite abit especially for sport. https://youtu.be/qANS2QgxkDo
spik3_my_drink
28 Nov 16#214
Hey guys, got this tv today. I think it's great but it is true it's SD quality is lacking. What settings did you change to improve SD viewing?
boulder1
28 Nov 16#213
An update on mine, I'm hopefully exchanging mine tonight. Ambilight hasn't really stopped going sporadically mental. It can be turned off, but its a nice feature and would prefer to have it active. Contacted Argos and they seem fine with an exchange.
Colour saturation seems a bit full on too, but I'm trying to decide is that more to do with it being a 4K tv? I'm not that familiar with them.
anthbobby10
27 Nov 16#212
yes everything else seems perfect, HD is beautiful cant complain at all, might just have to upgrade to Sky sports HD and enjoy, i have also heard from other people that SD on 4K tvs look bad
Peew971
26 Nov 16#211
There have been other comments that SD content on a 4K tv looks really bad. How is it working otherwise, happy with it?
anthbobby10
26 Nov 16#210
i bought this tv just opened it today, connected my skybox but having trouble watching sky sports 1 in SD seems very blurry especially for football anyone else had this problem?
benz1ne
25 Nov 161#209
I too have the box and went and bought the 50" Samsung today with the currys/quidco £75 cashback... wish I'd seen this before buying the Philips... but was always worth the risk! 50/50 wether I return this although not had any issues since posting last.
boulder1
25 Nov 16#208
Fantastic :neutral_face:
Won't throw out the box just yet so...
bobbler
25 Nov 16#207
Sounds like mine went, required a full reboot (power out the wall) and then stopped working entirely a day or so later....
boulder1
25 Nov 16#206
my ambilight spazzed out on my second night of it. A reset of the tv (and ps4 I was using it with) fixed it and no issues since. Still though, not ideal.
pototea
25 Nov 16#205
I bought the 55 inch which was delivered yesterday and I've just set it up.
I've downloaded the latest update from the Philips website and installed it (dated 11th November 2016).
To be honest, I am not particularly impressed. The sound is very poor quality and the picture is not 100% crisp / clear.
I mainly use tv to watch freeview channels and stream Now TV.
I won a Samsung hospitality tv in the Carling competition and this Philips is not a patch on that in terms of sound, picture and build quality.
Ambilight is of no benefit during the day. I'll see how it is at night.
I have kept the box, packaging etc in perfect condition. I will play around with it for another week then decide if I am keeping it or not.
Alexthegreat
25 Nov 16#204
Ahh sorry to hear that, I hope you have better luck with your new one! Mine is still going strong, no complaints really..
scoot
24 Nov 16#203
Just get a £25 firesticks from Argos ... all the catch up will be on there
bobbler
24 Nov 16#202
The Ambilight it connected to the other side of the back of the screen - right by the connectors there is a "service" panel and they connect at the top edge - watched the engineer do it myself when he replaced the main board on mine. They are very loosely connected and he described that area as being a known fault to me while fixing it.
There is a small strip of board in one of the sides (far right or far left can't remember which) by the lights too and a wire which runs around the perimeter from one set of the lights to the other. The board by the power supply is for power transformer not the Ambilight .
boulder1
24 Nov 16#201
I've picked this up and set it up. It's pretty.
HDR on ps4 though. I've checked settings on ps4, is there anyway to make sure on TV hdr is active?
And the colours can be quite strong at times, has anyone any recommendations on settings to tone it down appropriately please?
Thanks in advance!
PS it's a lovely screen, ambilight is cool, I've heard better from speakers but still perfectly fine for a non-audiophile.
markw96
24 Nov 16#200
I'm pretty sure mine did immediately after I updated the firmware and it rebooted. But after it starts up a lot quicker than before
oneeightseven
24 Nov 16#199
Expired
howarth3
23 Nov 16#198
Anybody else's red light flash for about 3/4 mins after turning on (from the mains not standby) and not able to use until it stops?? Surely it can't take this long to load up.
wiggybe
23 Nov 161#197
Make sure you update the TV firmware via USB. You can download it at Philips website. I had issues with TV not turning on and bottom led flashing red.
ColinRiley
23 Nov 16#196
Gutted missed this order, was about to get it
liam2368
23 Nov 16#195
The update was running better most definitely but I have some bad news... When I got home from work it prompted me that another update was available, clicked and downloaded it and then the TV went to reboot, but it seems it may have crashed as it was stuck on the Phillips logo for over an hour and it won't do anything else now, still stuck on the boot screen so looks like I'm going to be taking it back tonight and exchange it for another one and see how that goes.
Peew971
23 Nov 16#194
Could go with Amazon Firestick?
howarth3
23 Nov 16#193
Have you managed to get itv hub working? As soon as I try to open it it says 'itv hub stopped working' and just closes. Thanks
howarth3
23 Nov 16#192
Any chance of a link to the tutorial please. I followed one when I got the tv on Monday but would like to try the one you've seen as well. Cheers
Pokerjk
23 Nov 16#191
You snooze you lose, I was fast asleep. :disappointed:
Alexthegreat
23 Nov 16#190
Have you noticed any changes since the update? I would appreciate a warning if anything goes to S**t after the update so im hoping you will be my guinea pig :wink:
Peew971
23 Nov 16#189
Even if the code was still valid, the price of the TV went up £50.
Pokerjk
23 Nov 16#188
Code expired :disappointed:
andymk3
23 Nov 162#187
Picked one up for my girlfriend last night (just in time too by the looks of it!). Have to say I am extremely impressed with the TV. Got it up on the wall and it looks brilliant even while turned off, then once turned on, the ambilight sparks into life and it really does look awesome.
I'm quite happy with the responsiveness of the TV, I hate slow and clunky menus, but these are well laid out and quick enough. The remote isn't the best, it seems a bit slow and sometimes doesn't always work on the first press. Not too much of an issue for us with a Harmony remote though, which was nice and easy to set up with the tv.
Connected to the internet via Wifi, watched a few 4k videos on Youtube which streamed perfectly, and look absolutely stunning! The quality is unreal, the colours are amazing too, I really can't get over how good it all looks.
Overall, very happy with it!
chriscarterstevens
23 Nov 16#186
Discount code expired!
benz1ne
23 Nov 16#185
I'd love to know his this goes! Keep us updated, I would sharp take my last set back for a FHD TV in the same size that shows SD a lot better (even for the same price), the main perk of this TV is the lights... hands down the best feature, they really are brilliant (be wary, the back of the set, where the mains goes in, this is where the ambilights are *sometimes poorly* connected, it'd be worth giving it a small bump, if the lights go off, swap the set.) only reason I have the 2nd one I bought set up still.
benz1ne
23 Nov 16#184
It mustn't be, Judging by this TV it can't be.
paoolina
23 Nov 16#183
Price increased. £499 now
Biker Jeff
23 Nov 161#182
It seems to be the consensus of opinion on avforums, that SD content is worse on 4K TV's than it is on 1080p FHD TV's. When this opinion is posted over and over again by many different posters on there, i tend to think there must be some truth to it.
I've yet to see it for myself, but i shall be going to Richer Sounds, where they told me they can input SD content to their TV's. I shall then see the difference of SD content on FHD and UHD TV's. Currys wouldn't do it, so i have to travel 30 miles to my nearest RS, but i shall likely buy from them anyway.
slewis1972
23 Nov 16#181
Code has expired, can anyone else confirm?
Garyn
23 Nov 16#180
I thought TV's suppose to upscale SD content (or any other input) to the best possible picture like the older models or is this not the case with cheaper models now?
Alexthegreat
23 Nov 161#179
So i went and cracked this open last night and followed a tutorial on the picture settings and i must say... Its fantastic! I love it i really do, i put kodi on it which runs smooth and fast, not had any of these software issues others are commenting on. I think the android interface is ok, definitely serves its purpose. I haven't had any choppy playback on Amazon or Netflix and Battlefield 1 on the xbox looks out of this world!
For £404 and a little bit of cashback i feel i have really got a bargain here.
pototea
23 Nov 16#178
The 43 inch is now £500 (without voucher) and the 55 inch is now £650 without the voucher.
Peew971
22 Nov 16#177
All this talk about it being slow, I'm hoping Firesticks are on sale Friday so I don't have to worry about that.
liam2368
22 Nov 16#176
I've took a punt on this last night, currently own a kdl50w807csu Sony. Some would say the Sony is the better set but so far I'm preferring the Phillips, processor is noticeable slower though and struggles going through the apps sometimes where as the Sony has no hesitation.
Regarding SD I'd say it's at least as good as the Sony albeit after following a few tutorials on fine tuning the picture, out the box it's not good at all.
Negative points so far is the contrast has changed a couple of times on its own, Youtube has crashed once, the remote is cheap and tacky but other than that so far so good but I'll keep this updated on how it's going.
P.s. already had a Android update tonight so that may fix some of my issues but it has only just finished updating so time will tell.
ahod5416
22 Nov 16#175
Good buy. Code works £404. Can you record future programs with this TV, like you can with sky?
Peew971
22 Nov 16#174
You don't consider the 50" Samsung from Curry's a good deal?
It's odd about the firmware, I think Turbanator also said it worked better on an older build.
benz1ne
22 Nov 16#173
I returned one, kept the other, with stickers still on etc... I just can't decide. My girlfriend "likes the lights" enough to want to keep it! If I avoid SD it's fine. Other set seems to be working smoother than the first also, no errors as of yet. SD is horrible though! Also worth noting I didn't upgrade the firmware on this one... I'm 50/50 and a good Samsung deal on Friday could tip me over the edge. I can't see any issues taking it back to the branch I returned the other.
thegamer147
22 Nov 16#172
Benz1ne did you return both sets
Peew971
22 Nov 16#171
Their site says it should be in re-sellable condition so even if open it just depends on the state of it when you bring it back.
Leaving mine in store too until Black Friday, that should be pretty safe.
boulder1
22 Nov 16#170
I went on chat with Argos yesterday. As mentioned, can be returned unopened within 30 days. If opened they said they could not do returns. However, if there is something legit wrong with it, then they seem to have proven to have no issues. And if you find there's nothing wrong, then you're grand!
side note, I bought it online for collection. said it can be picked up or cancelled within 7 days, or if necessary, that can be extended to 14 days. Going to leave it in store to see if any better deals come in on Friday. Then cancel if there are, or pick up on saturday if not.
But i can't imagine the SD is that terrible on ALL sets?? surely it would be a wider known issue if it was?
Peew971
22 Nov 161#169
What's the gist for non listeners?
benz1ne
22 Nov 16#168
You'll be absolutely fine... explain the issues. I had to tell her to mark mine as 'faulty' so they could check the lights, they were going to re-sell it I think, and nobody checked the box. I'd be very surprised if there was any problems.
tightasagnatschu
22 Nov 16#167
Deal can now officially be classed as a good example as promoted on Radio Five.
A good section by Danny in my opinion.
stelol
22 Nov 16#166
I've returned a TV in its box to Tesco before and they didn't even check inside the box!! I guess it's down to the staff
howarth3
22 Nov 16#165
Surely it only needs to be in re-sellable condition if there's nothing wrong with it. Mines playing up couldn't even get kodi to open at first, YouTube app crashing, speech recognition crashing, TV guide wouldn't even open last night. Sound doesn't always work on satellite box. I've still got the stickers on but used the batteries and some of the plastic is ripped. Surely they can't refuse refund though... what you think??
benz1ne
22 Nov 16#164
Returned mine today, I just said the ambilight was playing up, which it was but I did clarify that they'll refund any return as long as it's packaged the same. Keep the stickers on, leave the batteries in the pack, and carefully unseal the tape and you'll be fine. 30 days is their policy.
paoolina
22 Nov 16#163
Pls advise which one is better. This TV or Panasonic dx600b (energy efficiency rating is b..) or samsung 6020?
I will need it for ps4 mostly or just Internet. I was wondering abt channels because u mentioned that Philips doesn't have itv. So it does have bbc and Netflix? I am really greenie abt tvs.. also i read somewhere that on the TV u can play games even without ps3 (?)
cooperdj
22 Nov 16#162
In my experience they will take it back if you say the picture isn't good enough or similar. Only item I have ever had difficulty returning is a printer as they say it is excluded from the returns policy (and they tell you that at point of sale)
Alexthegreat
22 Nov 16#161
So can anybody clarify the returns policy with this, I have ordered one and i would like to get it out the box and have a look at this 'SD content issue'... If i have opened the box tested this and it turns out to be rubbish, will argos accept the return?
stelol
22 Nov 16#160
Fingers crossed!!
Peew971
22 Nov 163#159
Yeah the "return no questions asked" policy makes it possible to take a leap of faith. It seems there are faulty units around more than deep issues with the TV itself, hopefully benz1ne gets an exchange or opens his second set and reports back.
cooperdj
22 Nov 161#158
Yeah I almost did that last night, but buying a TV is something I normally spend ages looking into rather than buying on a whim. Also, Philips wouldn't be my go-to brand really!
stelol
22 Nov 161#157
I've been thinking this but I've just bitten the bullet, hopefully if I don't like it they'll take it back in a resalable condition!
cooperdj
22 Nov 161#156
So... is this a good TV or not? Some super confusing replies up there like "it's a good tv, but i'm taking it back"
pototea
22 Nov 16#155
I contacted Argos live chat online last night.
They confirmed for home delivery items, the returns policy is 14 days and they will pick it up from the house for free.
All packaging etc must be in re-sellable condition.
Peew971
22 Nov 16#154
As of 08:30 this morning the code was still valid as it's when I placed my order. Chances of getting a better deal on Black Friday seemed quite slim but I'll just return it if needed.
daletrottermilner
22 Nov 161#153
what would be the best gaming tv for around 500quid 49-55"?
Turbanator
22 Nov 16#152
Your issues above seem to be bandwidth related to me. Have you tried going to http://fast.com/ with the TV browser and taking a reading?
One thing I'll say is that Argos's exchange process (within 30 days) was extremely painless. Went in, said it was faulty because the "internet on it was slow", said I'd tried the wifi and the "cable", polite lady went to speak to her manager, came back and offered me a refund or an exchange... try another set I'd say. I still think they're a fantastic value set.
benz1ne
21 Nov 16#151
After you said that and I troubleshot everything on the Philips support site I went ahead and gave the back of the unit a "bang" where the power socket goes... on comes the ambilight... wow!
Exchange the set today, new set has demonstrated up to 65mpbs throughput so much happier. Interestingly, this set came shipped with a much older firmware (April opposed to October). Both sets seemed packaged and brand new, so maybe this one is just an older manufactured set. For those interested, I found this video which details some settings for the set a model above. Ignoring the colour settings, the rest seem to give the set a much more balanced picture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxjVWqyaHXs&t=309s
bobbler
21 Nov 16#148
Know the feeling, sounds like you too have a duff one.
Mine was repaired by Philips within two weeks of buying it - they replaced the mainboard which is basically all there is inside the thing!
Ambilight could be down to the wires which are really poorly connected and is a known fault as the engineer who visited went straight for that as a fix for mine, didn't fix mine but I had it stuck on a colour after a few minutes of switching on each time.
howarth3
21 Nov 16#147
Just bought one and having similar problems. YouTube crashed a few times. The voice recognition crashes. Can't even get kodi to open and even the normal tv menus are crashing. Going to be ringing Argos in the morning
benz1ne
21 Nov 161#146
Wired on a 100mb connection. Yeah can be carried by two people on foot easily enough.
Peew971
21 Nov 16#145
Thanks for the feedback. Were Amazon and Netflix choppy with wired or wireless connection? I'd need a Fire TV for on demand services anyway so I guess Amazon/Netflix could be used on there instead. Think I may go for it and return it if it's bad.
Bit of an odd question, can it be carried on foot by 2 people easily or is delivery the best option?
benz1ne
21 Nov 16#144
Well... I've sat and tried to give it chance after chance... aside from the low quality SD, choppy Amazon/Netflix, the ambilight cutting off randomly and the ambilight app not bridging (all this with firmware from last month) its a good TV - about to toss mine out the window, way too much hassle, I'll stick to Samsung.
ian3850
21 Nov 16#143
I had the same issue with choppy playback on amazon prime 4K on the tv app. I turned off my PS4 pro and the playback instantly improved - think it struggles to see two 4K signals at the same time.
bobbler
21 Nov 16#142
Done some more playing. Adaptive Rotation Lock free did the job after setting to landscape mode. Unfortunately More4 has an accept button you cant move to with the remote Doh! I got past that using the Teamviewer app built into the tv but the More4 menu system has nothing but touch controls - navigation buttons simply scroll the screen around
amishamish
21 Nov 16#141
I havent got it yet, but I did look up a few. There is a cheap (6,19£ + delivery) qwerty keyboard/remote aimed for kodi users. I will probably go for that one because I play around with kodi a lot.
Cant say
benz1ne
21 Nov 16#140
What do you want pics of? The TV on an SD Channel?
thegamer147
21 Nov 16#139
Can u post pics
Biker Jeff
21 Nov 16#138
Yes, they probably wont, but i'm going to ask them anyway..... When they say they cant, i'll tell em they've lost my custom then.
I bet Richer Sounds will be willing to put SD content for me through their 4K sets.
Biker Jeff
21 Nov 16#137
Yep, i have a 40" Samsung 5000 series myself, which isn't anywhere near higher spec but SD content is fine on it and HD is excellent.... i'm only really wanting a new TV for a bigger screen.
crazylegs
21 Nov 16#136
I bet they can't or won't, its not in there interest to show a standard picture when a HD picture is what most tv's are good at...Its aways a tradeoff
LoRdPlOps111
21 Nov 16#135
It's a case of waiting for the channels to catch up with the tech. HD = no problem, SD = compromise. I mainly watch blu rays and dloads so it's a thing of beauty for me. Watching Spectre is like walking down the street with James Bond...
benz1ne
21 Nov 16#134
I actually did ask in currys and they only have the demo content (for obvious reasons) - don't know wether to get the 6400 Samsung I was waiting for now or to accept the SD and avoid them... I really do feel like SD must be better on the better brands. This is the first time I've not bought Samsung!
Peew971
21 Nov 161#133
I really had to stop and think about this. I'm not a Sky subscriber, only using Freeview HD, Netflix and Amazon Prime so I'll be exposed to a lot of SD content. I'm wondering now if I shouldn't invest in a Full HD TV instead :disappointed:
Biker Jeff
21 Nov 16#132
I guess its possible that the more higher range 4K TV's from Panny, Samsung & Sony may produce SD content better, due to their better quality processors & specs. But i've yet to find out.
I'm going to look at 4K TV's in Currys tomorrow and i'm going to ask them if they can put some SD content through them.
Chimchimeny
21 Nov 16#131
Ordered now, will collect tomorrow. Never used quidco before but just signed up on the off chance it works with the discount code. Any idea how long it takes to show up in your quidco account?
benz1ne
21 Nov 16#130
I wasn't aware but makes sense... I think I've got no choice but to take it back... sitting watching different adverts and they all are different quality... not something I was ever aware of until now.
I sometimes when watching tv wouldn't even switch to the HD channels, so this poor quality is a shock to the system! Going to do a bit more research but it's going back!!!
dsharp12345
21 Nov 16#129
Is that the 6561 you went for? If so do you know the difference between the 6400 and 6500 series? You think it was worth the extra money? :smiley:
Biker Jeff
21 Nov 16#128
This SD content issue on 4K sets seems to be talked about a lot on avforums. I've seen some people there buying last years models of 1080p FHD TV's like the Sony W805c because of it. There must be something in it, when those buyers are spending over £600 on a non 4K TV.
benz1ne
21 Nov 161#127
I've narrowed it down to aspect ratio, when choosing original its crisp and clean but a tile in the centre of the screen.... once zoomed or stretched it is bad, you can't even read smaller print on advertisements, it's blurry. I'm going to take both units back tomorrow. I think a lot of people are getting it and testing the 4K / HD etc without looking at standard channels which for me are more important at the moment... unless anybody has any other ideas. It's a shame, lights are awesome, android is icing on the cake but I've got negative comments all round from the family coming from a 2009 Samsung (mid range in 2009).
cooperdj
21 Nov 16#126
Hmm... this has made me hesitate on going out to get one now.... i'll be using Virgin Tivo for 1080 and SD channels though so maybe this would be better?
benz1ne
21 Nov 16#125
Honestly freeview HD isn't great, it's good at best but this could vary depending on what show is on. Tested some 4K content and its great... I have set the settings to AV forums recommended settings and I'm just updating firmware.
It just can't be this bad on standard! If I can't fix this I'll be opening the second set.
dizzer
21 Nov 16#124
I got the 55 a couple of weeks ago, sd is way better from my vuplus solo 2 sat tuner than the built on sat tuner. That said we are delighted with it for the money. Spend some time getting it how you want it and you will be pleased.
TinyRick
21 Nov 161#123
Update
jamierichardson129
21 Nov 16#122
Thanks for the info, Philips had previously said sideloading was disabled
Peew971
21 Nov 16#121
I've been browsing Amazon but can't find the Qwerty remote, would you have a link or reference number pls?
Darkle
21 Nov 161#120
Sorry not trying to be rude, but your statement was kind of fleeting there.
I know people who use TVs as monitors, surely there's a way to tell the dynamic resolution to sod off?
Regarding RGBW, I'm now looking at Samsung who have been pretty vocal in their opposition to rgbw. I was almost set to get an LG until I learned they were using these RGBW panels. So that would take care of that right?
Biker Jeff
21 Nov 16#119
I assume the Freeview HD channels are ok ?
While researching 4K TV's, it seems i'm constantly reading that SD content on 4K TV's is worse than SD content on 1080p FHD TV's..... Also i guess that larger the screen size the worse it is.
Its what's putting me off buying a 4K TV.
benz1ne
21 Nov 16#118
I'm going to take a look, I don't understand how the 4K (which I finally tested via YouTube) can look great but the antenna standard channels look so terrible... its quite important that the standard def looks good to be honest... does anybody know if the quality of standard def can be affected by signal or the type of antenna? Trying to rule everything out apart from this being a bit of a crap TV.
stelol
21 Nov 16#117
Anyone know how big the box is? I'm wondering whether it will fit in my car
Peew971
21 Nov 16#116
Please report on the 2nd unit, was about to pull the trigger and you got me worried :neutral_face:
benz1ne
21 Nov 16#115
I've just set this up and I have to say I am beyond disappointed. Non-HD channnels look worse than my 2009 Samsung - I've crashed YouTube 5/5 times while searching... im in disbelief it's this bad to the point I'm thinking it could be faulty... motion blur and bleeding colours, light green around clean lines... the list goes on...
I was really expecting a lot better, I may try my other unit to see if it's just this one, I know it's a cheap set but it simply cannot be this bad... anybody having any of the same issues?
I'm by no means an expert and my best television in the house is a Samsung 5000 series and this comes nowhere near...
Metermike
21 Nov 16#114
Collect mine tomorrow, nice spec TV for a decent price thanks op
Heat from me :smiley:
XP200
21 Nov 16#113
I got the very same 43in version, and it has been a total joy, i was doubious because there were some on here that said to avoid these tv's, but i took the chance for £370, and i am over the moon, Tv is a utter joy, picture is phenominal, 4k from either the xbox slim or my Pc is just out of this world, HDR on Gears of war 4 and Forza H 3 is just fantastic, and the tv has full support for a mouse and keyboard of you want to watch Columbo via putlocker on the TV's internet browser.
All in all a cracking tv and well worth the cash, and now my only problem is that my 5 year old 60in 1080p plasma is looking somewhat out of date now. lol
biuro74
21 Nov 16#112
Don't do that.
Not only dynamic resolution in 4K/UHD TVs is not 100% saturated to full 2160 vertical lines, but now RGBW matrix does its "job"...
cooperdj
21 Nov 16#111
So tempted by this. Wasn't remotely in the market for a TV but really like the look of the 43... can't really see much going against it, limited reviews. Main negative seems to the be sound which is irrelevant as have a sound bar.... what to do....
frankievanpottelsberghe
21 Nov 16#110
you can't get itvhub all4 or my5 apps on this television
bobbler
21 Nov 162#109
You can sideload whatever you want however.
It's quite easy if you have a USB key to put them on or a network shared drive. Find yourself the APK you are interested in and put in on the network or USB drive.
ES File Explorer - which is free in the App store will let you browse to any file location (USB, network disk etc) . When you click on the APK file it will copy it over and give you the option to install - at which point Android blocks it but takes you to the menu screen at which point you select "allow untrusted sources".
Try again and it will then install fine.
Only issue I am still working out how to fix is it auto rotates to being in the wrong mode (portrait) but I expect there is another app to sort that out, just not found one yet.
4OD launched fine but was in the aforementioned wrong screen mode.
benz1ne
21 Nov 16#108
Just go for it now, if you're that concerned hold onto it boxed until Friday. I bought two, £24 tracked on quidco with 10% active at the time.
I've been watching TVs for a while now and this seemed too good to turn down, if there are better deals Friday it was worth the risk. Busy setting the first one up now so will comment back with thoughts.
benz1ne
21 Nov 16#107
gfos84
21 Nov 16#106
great tv going to be keeping my eye on this for friday
HotUkDale
21 Nov 16#105
Great find! Heat from me thanks :smiley:
pototea
21 Nov 16#104
3% / £16 quidco just tracked for me when using the voucher code
thegamer147
21 Nov 16#103
When does code end do u think will go cheaper on Friday
Similar specs with HDR via update, struggle to find expert reviewers that review both TVs for a decent comparison. looking for use with Xbox one S and Sky UHD etc. Thanks
lovelybeer
21 Nov 16#100
I also opted for the 3-direction Ambilight version in 55" from AO.com (10% code floating about). It's stunning and the built-in Ambilight really makes it shine - better than a manual job on bias lighting (plus, you can tune Ambilight to follow sounds instead of video, which is great when streaming music!).
HDR is enabled, but, it doesn't meet the 1000 nits requirement for full certification - this panel is around 300-400 I believe, so doesn't have full colour benefit compared to a panel that's say, 2-3 times the price (of course!).
Good panels, hard to find outside of Argos and AO sadly.
smulx
21 Nov 16#99
Definitely this one. Click the link and the second picture has the measurements. They all seem correct except the distance between the feet.
LoRdPlOps111
21 Nov 16#98
are you looking at this or the 43 inch one?
smulx
21 Nov 16#97
Just to warn people, the measurements on the Argos website are wrong. The legs span a lot more than 63cm.
pototea
21 Nov 161#96
I've been wanting a Philips Ambilight for months. Went for the 55 inch version.
jamierichardson129
21 Nov 161#95
its just on the play store on the tv
newbiele
21 Nov 16#94
Hi which remote did you get off Amazon? Thanks
Just ordered the 55inch. Great deal
jamierichardson129
21 Nov 16#93
you can use bluetooth for headphones, keyboards etc
jamierichardson129
21 Nov 16#92
only 60hz while running 4k though
jamierichardson129
21 Nov 16#91
yes it has HDR via an update but does not fall into Ultra HD Premium specs
jamierichardson129
21 Nov 16#90
i think alot of that is caused by the ambilight you can turn that off if you really want though
Sparks11
21 Nov 16#89
I was going to wait for the black friday deal, but this may be too good to miss!
jamierichardson129
21 Nov 16#88
no unfortunately not it just has bbc iplayer, kodi, amazon, netflix, wuaki tv, youtube, google play movies etc.
jamierichardson129
21 Nov 16#87
it has a satellite tuner and an aerial (if you plug in a hard drive you can pause, rewind, record tv too)
sjpalmer85
21 Nov 16#86
Amazing deal. Thanks OP. Ordered and will collect today
pototea
21 Nov 16#85
Now 3%! Grr.
pototea
21 Nov 16#84
What is the "Argos error"?
Peew971
21 Nov 16#83
Anyone knows how this compares to the Samsung tv from Curry's posted today?
crazylegs
21 Nov 16#82
You would never actually buy if you thought something better would come along..
Black friday deals will be on the cheap £149 tele's not these 4k ambilights, you would be wise to snap up now or miss out entirely!
amishamish
21 Nov 16#81
hi. I just bought the 55 inch version and it did not have the quert remote. A bit of a dissapoinent as I did see the querty one in the advertisment video.
Bright side is that you can get a cheap one from amazon.
Original remote and the typing interface sucks on this tv
abx
21 Nov 16#80
Hopefully you get that considering they are funny about the usage of vouchers.
SteveKnight
21 Nov 161#79
My order last night under 10% quidco and delivery didn't get processed. Had to re order today at 3.3% quidco fast track click and collect which has tracked.
abx
21 Nov 16#78
Wonder if anyone will get the 10% quidco (now back to lower amount).
LLcoolgaz
21 Nov 161#77
Bought it! Cheers
LoRdPlOps111
21 Nov 161#76
You can return it if it isn't sealed, no quibble money back guarantee - or just say the sound is a bit 'off'.
LoRdPlOps111
21 Nov 161#75
Bought 43 inch TV (same model) used code got for £341, saw this on offer, used code + £10 off voucher I got free with other TV, took 43 inch TV back to Argos, not only did they not ask for the £10 back, they refunded me the full amount on the 43 inch TV BEFORE code was applied. So that added to the cashback = £348 (would have been £4 less but had to get it delivered!).
Peew971
21 Nov 16#74
So you can return it if it's sealed then? Could be a good reason to buy it now.
abx
21 Nov 161#73
Could perhaps buy it today with code. Resist temptation and keep it in the box, sealed, until Friday, if no better deal then open it up. If a better deal comes up take it back and re-buy it or request refund of difference. Bear in mind that it might be out of stock if it's a good deal on Friday.
simonbrowne
21 Nov 16#72
Don't go by Which reviews!
Agreed.
abx
21 Nov 16#71
What was the argos error?
Darkle
21 Nov 16#70
Is there any definitive list of offenders like this? I very nearly bought an LG the other day until I found this out at the last moment, and it's not in the specs of the panel.
I've heard some models of Samsung were doing it too, and they were the other TV I was looking at.
Basically looking for a 43" 4k TV to use as a PC monitor, so I really want proper pixels and relatively low input lag.
LoRdPlOps111
21 Nov 16#69
After code + cashback + Argos 'error' this cost me £348, doubtful anything will be that good even on Black Friday.
XDaveyboyX
21 Nov 16#68
I picked up one of these last week and it's really good. Only issue I've had is Sky Q and 4K. Seems if you power down the Sky Q box when the tv is on (as my toddler loves doing) and turn it back on then I quite often get a lot of sparkles/green dots which can only be shifted by changing the sky output resolution to 1080p and then back to 4K. I'd questioned the HDMI cable but it's a high speed one that comes with an xbox one so should really be fine. I'll try some other ones though.
I also find my playback from any of the inbuilt apps amazon/youtube/netflix is prone to a bit of choppiness that doesn't seem to be related to the internet connection. That'll hopefully be patched and I'm going to run a network cable to the TV anyway shortly instead of wireless.
SteveKnight
21 Nov 16#67
Code expires today i beleive
SteveKnight
21 Nov 16#66
Black friday deals tend to be hit or miss and usually limited stock. I'd rather get this one now than wait around hoping for a better black friday deal then regretting not going for this one. A bird in the hand and all that....
benz1ne
21 Nov 161#65
I did think the same, but I'd rather have snapped one up than miss out! They're all going to be cheaper somewhere down the line!
HUX1
21 Nov 16#64
Any one know when the discount code expires??? beend after this tv for a while but worried it may be cheaper on Friday!
Peew971
21 Nov 161#63
My dilemma exactly. I'm also worried I will let it pass then not find anything better on Black Friday.
s24adm
21 Nov 16#62
Bought this model a few weeks back, brilliant TV. Only downside is changing channel / channel info / guide is very slow for a new TV. Not a problem if you use Sky with it or buying it for the android apps (kodi) primarily. The features of this set are endless, it even prompted me to plug in a usb hard drive yesterday for recording TV and downloading more apps.
The ambilight is incredible, thinking of getting more philips ambilight stuff to pair with it.
smulx
21 Nov 16#61
People buying this - are you not worried you'll pay for this now and something better will come along for Back Friday? That's the only thing that's making me doubt whether I should order this now.
SteveKnight
21 Nov 16#60
Thanks OP. Been looking for a Bedroom TV and this fits the bill. The fact it's android and has free sat is the icing on the cake. Tried Quidco too. If quidco tracks it's an even better bargain.
boringest
21 Nov 16#59
For £404, this is really good value for money:
It has almost completely replaced my htpc with 4k Amazon video prime app (grand tour on 4k is pretty awesome), Google movies, and Kodi. So far it's still missing the nowtv app and the other catch-up TV ones.
Really like the android TV component of it where you can download android TV controller to your phone and use it as controller with voice commands (no need to teach older folks how to navigate the interface, just speak into phone).
Ambilight is pretty cool, I've set mine to ambilight game and it looks like it is able to control each individual led based on what's shown on TV e.g. when I was watching star trek beyond and starship enterprise was shown coming towards you in deep space, the LEDs were lighting up in the same order as the blinking lights on the ship as it comes off screen. You also have the option on the remote control to quickly switch off ambilight or switch to different modes.
Now for the cons, it looks like processing power of the TV is limited when you are playing 4k content from Amazon video app, where you see some sync issues when people are talking. When I disabled incredible surround sound, this seems to go away. Sound is still pretty good.
Other issue with my unit is that currently with the latest software, the integrated Chromecast is not playing back drm protected movies like nowtv or Google play movies. Casting YouTube or Google photos or even your android tablet or phone is working well.
The stand looks quite flimsy, so it might be safer to get an anti tip strap if you have young ones running around.
Not a con but I'm still tweaking the settings but out of the box, all the colours look very saturated IMHO. I've started to tweak the movie settings to include dynamic contrast and increased sharpness to make it more life like. Please share your settings if you find something that works really well.
LoRdPlOps111
21 Nov 161#58
Go to the Google Play store via the TV, search for Kodi, install Kodi = easy as that.
LoRdPlOps111
21 Nov 16#57
Great TV, minor light bleeding/pooling but not a huge problem, sound is very good (make sure surround sound and clear speech is on) tons of sockets round the back, Ambilight great fun, bit of tweaking here and there required with settings to get the desired picture. Blue can be a bit too high straight out the box, put movie mode on that should fix it.
If you want to make people's jaws drop, stick Pacific Rim in the blu ray player...awesome stuff upscaled.
seaniboy
21 Nov 16#56
Also Philips support forms ask what apps you want to see
Virgin traffic shaping Smart TV's ? Much rather sell you a TV subscription than end up with broadband solo or with landline subs. My Sky Broadband running 4K at 18MBPS no problem on the 43" version.
kyegoon221
21 Nov 16#54
how did u install kodi. ( I'm dumb and haven't the foggiest how to)
jaydeeuk1
21 Nov 162#53
Wasn't it which who recommended people buy the £80 monster HDMI cables? There are far far better review sites out there, even avforums.
alvleeds111
21 Nov 16#52
55inch for £539,,, I'm sooo tempted!! Must resist!!
crazylegs
20 Nov 161#51
Don't go by Which reviews!
dansis
20 Nov 161#50
got the 43" version of this TV for 340 2 weeks ago.. great tv!
Darbo
20 Nov 16#49
How is this compared to samsung 40" from ebuyer for £350, other than size ofcourse.
assassin_uk1
20 Nov 16#48
Have you looked at other reviews? I find it is always best to gain an average rating from various reviews otherwise you could fall for one biased review. It really is a great TV and would be worth checking other reviews too then make a decision. :smiley:
smg1984
20 Nov 16#47
A worthy upgrade from a 1080p Samsung for Gaming etc or wait until next year for something better hmmm
What's the better value and I appreciate this one is bigger
yeni1210
20 Nov 16#43
Thanks OP
assassin_uk1
20 Nov 16#42
No, just a standard remote unfortunately. No lights on it either which can be a bit of a nuisance in the night. I believe you could get a remote separately or use your phone :smiley:
TP2
20 Nov 161#41
Got the 55" a month ago and very pleased with it. Great picture and performance. Rubbish sound but to be expected.
morrig
20 Nov 16#40
Think the 1Mb's download might be your problem in this day and age,sad if you can't get more.
Just tested my Virgin cable and its 31.77Mb's download and 1.48Mb's upload, remember the dial up speeds of 56Kb's now that was fun.
benz1ne
20 Nov 16#39
Does anyone who purchased this know if you get the qwerty remote with it? Some reviews of this on youtube show this remote but the Argos image shows a different one...
stuartc74
20 Nov 16#36
60hz refresh rate hence the cheap price. Will be an inferior viewing experience to a 120hz 1080p LCD. Motion blur will be noticeable to those with good eyesight. A 4k LCD at 60Hz is a marketing con.
emiratesstadium to stuartc74
20 Nov 165#38
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
blacklock1986
20 Nov 16#16
what warranty is on this TV please?
I'm very tempted, reviews are not too bad, especially for the price.
PUGSTER1978 to blacklock1986
20 Nov 161#27
2 year warranty. Just got reviewed in what hifi this month.
knotty78 to blacklock1986
20 Nov 16#37
2 year warranty with this tv
cartergaz
20 Nov 161#35
Ordered.. Thanks.
Naruto
20 Nov 16#3
10% Quidco too?
seaniboy to Naruto
20 Nov 16#4
I imagine so
sofiasar to Naruto
20 Nov 16#34
till tonight :smiley:
Peew971
20 Nov 16#17
Really hard to wait for Black Friday. Any good reason to not get this?
Naruto to Peew971
20 Nov 161#33
Im looking for a 49-55 inch 4k at this price point but still waiting for Black Friday/Cyber Monday to pull the trigger. Patience is a virtue my friend.
PUGSTER1978
20 Nov 161#32
For anybody who wants to set the custom colour. Red 127 green 97 blue 68 red bl 3 green bl 0 blue bl 0.
oli_1867
20 Nov 16#31
Is it HDR? Argos doesn't seem to mention it, but What Hi-fi article seems to suggest it is...
It says.... 'ITV, All 4 and 50D catch-up apps are not available'
Can you still get catch up for these channels using the Android on the tv ?
elpandalover to Biker Jeff
20 Nov 161#29
Not at the moment 3,4,5 have not both developing/porting apps yet. You can cast from some of them but you don't get the full set like on youview.
blacklock1986
20 Nov 16#28
ordered. heat added
fuzzymuzzy
20 Nov 16#26
Does anyone listen to which reviews? this didn't get a good one. in the market for a 4k TV but the which review put me off this
SFconvert
20 Nov 16#25
Looks pretty good. Shame it's only A rated energy though, do the energy saving settings reduce the quite high 87w on mode power consumption? I've seen some LG tvs of similar size using nearly a third of that power!
lfcrobbie08
20 Nov 16#24
found it, if you log on during check out using pay now and collect in store the code option comes up on the next page
fowlerpower
20 Nov 16#23
do you know when this expires? this would take half my black friday funds and TVs arent high on my list
assassin_uk1
20 Nov 161#22
To use the code - click on the item to 'add to basket' then proceed to checkout. it will give you the option to click and collect or delivery. select your option and then a page should load. You will see a box at the top to enter your voucher code.
Enter the code TVS10 and the discount should apply.
daviesns
20 Nov 16#21
Good deal, I paid £27 more a few weeks back for mine and thought that was a good price.
carlosd73
20 Nov 16#20
Tempted. When does the discount code expire?
stevieclose
20 Nov 161#18
yeah wondering that myself i dont see any option to use code
Nealjane100
20 Nov 16#15
I have an older ambilight Philips TV, it does make a huge difference to the overall feel/effect of watching TV - I love it!!
Squelds
20 Nov 166#12
Got my son the 43" for his birthday a month ago from the deal posted. Stuck Kodi on it and havent seen him in weeks. He only comes out for food, then disappears back into his room. The TV in itself is very good, the ambilight has to be seen to be believed. From the garden its like he is having a disco even with curtains drawn. RAVE ON SON, RAVE ON!
So... avoid if you ever want to see your children again... but all in all a great set with great picture, and the added bonus of Kodi built in and no external android boxes ;-)
PS.. the code only works for delivery or pay BEFORE collection. It does NOT work on reserve and collect/pay.
rabaz786 to Squelds
20 Nov 16#14
You sir have made my day, Brill comment.
shotatdawn
20 Nov 16#8
sorry to hassle - will this work with an xbox one s without stuttering or any lag
assassin_uk1 to shotatdawn
20 Nov 161#13
I'm playing PS4 with no issues and games have been up scaled with HDR. I believe this will run fine with XBOX one s.
Turbanator
20 Nov 161#11
Had this TV for just over 20 days. 4k is brilliant, HDR isn't bad considering the price point, Android is... android... generally buggy but does the job. An example of bugginess is if you perform a software update, and then do a factory restore, it restores the updated software but the original config not the amended config which goes with the updated software. So you end up in a mishmash and the only way to fix it is to wait for another software update! I think issues like this are common as software on TVs gets too "smart" for its own good. I'm taking mine back tomorrow to hopefully have it swapped. I've been plagued by poor network performance, and initially put it down to Wifi issues, but having wired it this weekend through ethernet to receive 1mpbs performance, I've given up. That said, I'm hoping to get the same set again because besides this issue, it has been a fantastic TV.
Jams80
20 Nov 16#10
For the price, this seems really good. Waiting on some comments as to why not... user reviews seem universally positive. It is IPS, so I thought blacks would be inferior, but from reviews this doesn't seem to be the case. Perhaps Ambilight helps in that respect.
kencol
20 Nov 16#9
Shows a sat tuner, why doesn't Argos state this in the blurb....for me it's a sales point.
blanka
20 Nov 16#7
Heat. I had the Aurea amber-light and I absolutely loved it. Best TV I have ever owned. Wished they did the same but with a Top Spec 4K, HDR 10 etc.
jamierichardson129
20 Nov 16#6
The 43" version is great and i paid a similar price for that.
bloooo
20 Nov 161#5
Doubt quidco will pay out if you use the voucher
assassin_uk1
20 Nov 16#2
It honestly looks amazing. You will only fully get the benefit of 4K on larger TV's. I also forgot to mention that this has HDR for realistic colours.
Naruto
20 Nov 16#1
Seems to get decent reviews. Rather buy something like this than a Hisense which can be found at a similar price point. Good deal!
Opening post
The discount code for Argos is TVS10.
Let me know if you have any luck.
Best,
Shaun
Top comments
So... avoid if you ever want to see your children again... but all in all a great set with great picture, and the added bonus of Kodi built in and no external android boxes ;-)
PS.. the code only works for delivery or pay BEFORE collection. It does NOT work on reserve and collect/pay.
Latest comments (228)
However, they were only showing when watching through HDMI 1. When i moved to my ps4 (HDMI 2), they would flicker for a second as it changed, and then went away. Then the following day, it wasn't there at all, and hasn't come back.
I assume when a pixel dies, it dies? That it should be noticeable no matter what? In which case I don't know what to make of it. I would be loathe to exchange it (again), especially if it was just a momentary blip.
The sound is not great quality but most tvs in the £550 price range for 55 inch don't have great sound anyway.
I LOVE the ambilight so decided to keep the tv.
I use a Now TV box, I don't use any of the inbuilt apps.
I couldn't find any better deals on a 55 inch tv around the £500-£550 price point.
And yes sounds like a loose power cable internally. Glad you got it sorted - I really like the Ambilight - looks very modern and classy in the right environment.
With regards ambilight, I had it set to video. And it was largely fine, but it would go 'mental' and stop periodically. Sometimes a tap to the back would help, but I think overall it was a loose connection. I swapped it last night in Argos with no issues. Set up last night and didn't see any of the same happening, so hopefully good! I'll take a look at those settings though. It's always worth having a tinker to find the one that suits best. Appreciate the advice!
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-display-calibration/948496-avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration.html
Helps hugely in getting things looking their best.
You might want to experiment with settings - I changed the picture mode to "movie" and temperature to "warm" as per the AVForums Picture Perfect guide:
https://www.avforums.com/PicturePerfect/
Feels weird at first, but makes a lot of sense a few hours later.
Colour saturation seems a bit full on too, but I'm trying to decide is that more to do with it being a 4K tv? I'm not that familiar with them.
Won't throw out the box just yet so...
I've downloaded the latest update from the Philips website and installed it (dated 11th November 2016).
To be honest, I am not particularly impressed. The sound is very poor quality and the picture is not 100% crisp / clear.
I mainly use tv to watch freeview channels and stream Now TV.
I won a Samsung hospitality tv in the Carling competition and this Philips is not a patch on that in terms of sound, picture and build quality.
Ambilight is of no benefit during the day. I'll see how it is at night.
I have kept the box, packaging etc in perfect condition. I will play around with it for another week then decide if I am keeping it or not.
There is a small strip of board in one of the sides (far right or far left can't remember which) by the lights too and a wire which runs around the perimeter from one set of the lights to the other. The board by the power supply is for power transformer not the Ambilight .
HDR on ps4 though. I've checked settings on ps4, is there anyway to make sure on TV hdr is active?
And the colours can be quite strong at times, has anyone any recommendations on settings to tone it down appropriately please?
Thanks in advance!
PS it's a lovely screen, ambilight is cool, I've heard better from speakers but still perfectly fine for a non-audiophile.
The update was running better most definitely but I have some bad news... When I got home from work it prompted me that another update was available, clicked and downloaded it and then the TV went to reboot, but it seems it may have crashed as it was stuck on the Phillips logo for over an hour and it won't do anything else now, still stuck on the boot screen so looks like I'm going to be taking it back tonight and exchange it for another one and see how that goes.
I'm quite happy with the responsiveness of the TV, I hate slow and clunky menus, but these are well laid out and quick enough. The remote isn't the best, it seems a bit slow and sometimes doesn't always work on the first press. Not too much of an issue for us with a Harmony remote though, which was nice and easy to set up with the tv.
Connected to the internet via Wifi, watched a few 4k videos on Youtube which streamed perfectly, and look absolutely stunning! The quality is unreal, the colours are amazing too, I really can't get over how good it all looks.
Overall, very happy with it!
I've yet to see it for myself, but i shall be going to Richer Sounds, where they told me they can input SD content to their TV's. I shall then see the difference of SD content on FHD and UHD TV's. Currys wouldn't do it, so i have to travel 30 miles to my nearest RS, but i shall likely buy from them anyway.
For £404 and a little bit of cashback i feel i have really got a bargain here.
Regarding SD I'd say it's at least as good as the Sony albeit after following a few tutorials on fine tuning the picture, out the box it's not good at all.
Negative points so far is the contrast has changed a couple of times on its own, Youtube has crashed once, the remote is cheap and tacky but other than that so far so good but I'll keep this updated on how it's going.
P.s. already had a Android update tonight so that may fix some of my issues but it has only just finished updating so time will tell.
It's odd about the firmware, I think Turbanator also said it worked better on an older build.
Link
Leaving mine in store too until Black Friday, that should be pretty safe.
side note, I bought it online for collection. said it can be picked up or cancelled within 7 days, or if necessary, that can be extended to 14 days. Going to leave it in store to see if any better deals come in on Friday. Then cancel if there are, or pick up on saturday if not.
But i can't imagine the SD is that terrible on ALL sets?? surely it would be a wider known issue if it was?
A good section by Danny in my opinion.
I will need it for ps4 mostly or just Internet. I was wondering abt channels because u mentioned that Philips doesn't have itv. So it does have bbc and Netflix? I am really greenie abt tvs.. also i read somewhere that on the TV u can play games even without ps3 (?)
They confirmed for home delivery items, the returns policy is 14 days and they will pick it up from the house for free.
All packaging etc must be in re-sellable condition.
One thing I'll say is that Argos's exchange process (within 30 days) was extremely painless. Went in, said it was faulty because the "internet on it was slow", said I'd tried the wifi and the "cable", polite lady went to speak to her manager, came back and offered me a refund or an exchange... try another set I'd say. I still think they're a fantastic value set.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/August-PCR500-Multimedia-Universal-Frequency/dp/B014R8EAPG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1479770918&sr=8-2&keywords=august+air+mouse
Especially useful with apps like ES File Manager.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxjVWqyaHXs&t=309s
Mine was repaired by Philips within two weeks of buying it - they replaced the mainboard which is basically all there is inside the thing!
Ambilight could be down to the wires which are really poorly connected and is a known fault as the engineer who visited went straight for that as a fix for mine, didn't fix mine but I had it stuck on a colour after a few minutes of switching on each time.
Bit of an odd question, can it be carried on foot by 2 people easily or is delivery the best option?
Cant say
I bet Richer Sounds will be willing to put SD content for me through their 4K sets.
I'm going to look at 4K TV's in Currys tomorrow and i'm going to ask them if they can put some SD content through them.
I sometimes when watching tv wouldn't even switch to the HD channels, so this poor quality is a shock to the system! Going to do a bit more research but it's going back!!!
It just can't be this bad on standard! If I can't fix this I'll be opening the second set.
I know people who use TVs as monitors, surely there's a way to tell the dynamic resolution to sod off?
Regarding RGBW, I'm now looking at Samsung who have been pretty vocal in their opposition to rgbw. I was almost set to get an LG until I learned they were using these RGBW panels. So that would take care of that right?
While researching 4K TV's, it seems i'm constantly reading that SD content on 4K TV's is worse than SD content on 1080p FHD TV's..... Also i guess that larger the screen size the worse it is.
Its what's putting me off buying a 4K TV.
I was really expecting a lot better, I may try my other unit to see if it's just this one, I know it's a cheap set but it simply cannot be this bad... anybody having any of the same issues?
I'm by no means an expert and my best television in the house is a Samsung 5000 series and this comes nowhere near...
Heat from me :smiley:
All in all a cracking tv and well worth the cash, and now my only problem is that my 5 year old 60in 1080p plasma is looking somewhat out of date now. lol
Not only dynamic resolution in 4K/UHD TVs is not 100% saturated to full 2160 vertical lines, but now RGBW matrix does its "job"...
It's quite easy if you have a USB key to put them on or a network shared drive. Find yourself the APK you are interested in and put in on the network or USB drive.
ES File Explorer - which is free in the App store will let you browse to any file location (USB, network disk etc) . When you click on the APK file it will copy it over and give you the option to install - at which point Android blocks it but takes you to the menu screen at which point you select "allow untrusted sources".
Try again and it will then install fine.
Only issue I am still working out how to fix is it auto rotates to being in the wrong mode (portrait) but I expect there is another app to sort that out, just not found one yet.
4OD launched fine but was in the aforementioned wrong screen mode.
I've been watching TVs for a while now and this seemed too good to turn down, if there are better deals Friday it was worth the risk. Busy setting the first one up now so will comment back with thoughts.
Similar specs with HDR via update, struggle to find expert reviewers that review both TVs for a decent comparison. looking for use with Xbox one S and Sky UHD etc. Thanks
HDR is enabled, but, it doesn't meet the 1000 nits requirement for full certification - this panel is around 300-400 I believe, so doesn't have full colour benefit compared to a panel that's say, 2-3 times the price (of course!).
Good panels, hard to find outside of Argos and AO sadly.
Just ordered the 55inch. Great deal
Black friday deals will be on the cheap £149 tele's not these 4k ambilights, you would be wise to snap up now or miss out entirely!
Bright side is that you can get a cheap one from amazon.
Original remote and the typing interface sucks on this tv
Agreed.
I've heard some models of Samsung were doing it too, and they were the other TV I was looking at.
Basically looking for a 43" 4k TV to use as a PC monitor, so I really want proper pixels and relatively low input lag.
I also find my playback from any of the inbuilt apps amazon/youtube/netflix is prone to a bit of choppiness that doesn't seem to be related to the internet connection. That'll hopefully be patched and I'm going to run a network cable to the TV anyway shortly instead of wireless.
The ambilight is incredible, thinking of getting more philips ambilight stuff to pair with it.
It has almost completely replaced my htpc with 4k Amazon video prime app (grand tour on 4k is pretty awesome), Google movies, and Kodi. So far it's still missing the nowtv app and the other catch-up TV ones.
Really like the android TV component of it where you can download android TV controller to your phone and use it as controller with voice commands (no need to teach older folks how to navigate the interface, just speak into phone).
Ambilight is pretty cool, I've set mine to ambilight game and it looks like it is able to control each individual led based on what's shown on TV e.g. when I was watching star trek beyond and starship enterprise was shown coming towards you in deep space, the LEDs were lighting up in the same order as the blinking lights on the ship as it comes off screen. You also have the option on the remote control to quickly switch off ambilight or switch to different modes.
Now for the cons, it looks like processing power of the TV is limited when you are playing 4k content from Amazon video app, where you see some sync issues when people are talking. When I disabled incredible surround sound, this seems to go away. Sound is still pretty good.
Other issue with my unit is that currently with the latest software, the integrated Chromecast is not playing back drm protected movies like nowtv or Google play movies. Casting YouTube or Google photos or even your android tablet or phone is working well.
The stand looks quite flimsy, so it might be safer to get an anti tip strap if you have young ones running around.
Not a con but I'm still tweaking the settings but out of the box, all the colours look very saturated IMHO. I've started to tweak the movie settings to include dynamic contrast and increased sharpness to make it more life like. Please share your settings if you find something that works really well.
If you want to make people's jaws drop, stick Pacific Rim in the blu ray player...awesome stuff upscaled.
http://www.supportforum.philips.com/en/showthread.php?807-We-need-YOUR-help-which-application-do-you-like-to-see-on-Net-TV/page60
What's the better value and I appreciate this one is bigger
Just tested my Virgin cable and its 31.77Mb's download and 1.48Mb's upload, remember the dial up speeds of 56Kb's now that was fun.
I'm very tempted, reviews are not too bad, especially for the price.
Can you still get catch up for these channels using the Android on the tv ?
Enter the code TVS10 and the discount should apply.
So... avoid if you ever want to see your children again... but all in all a great set with great picture, and the added bonus of Kodi built in and no external android boxes ;-)
PS.. the code only works for delivery or pay BEFORE collection. It does NOT work on reserve and collect/pay.