£109.9 ? Don't you mean 109.9p

Massive difference

Fuel prices are up 40-50% compared to their lows of $28 a barrel in Jan 2016. Now about $19 higher. Also factor in the plunging value of the pound vs the dollar. Pound is down about 20% against dollar since brexit. All fuel is traded in dollar. So that 40-50% increase in fuel now has a 20% surcharge on it till the pound recovers. £1 a litre is a long way off now.

I think what most garages like BP, Shell and others charge really depends on what the local supermarkets are charging. Remember supermarkets can afford to run petrol as a loss leader. Discounts on fuel offset by profits made in store. A £50 shop instore will make them a lot of money. People come for the fuel may also shop instore too.

This road tax paye idea I don't think will work at present. Collecting money at the pump is a very efficient and easy way to generate taxes. You are in effect taxed for what you use. I do think cost of tax disc should rise as 0-35 quid on some cars is nothing. As more cars become eco friendly and fuel use drops the government will quickly change tact. Many years off this as the technology is not main stream.

Not close enough to a Morrisons to make this deal work for me. £50 is a lot to spend in one shop for me. Assuming the goods are not overly priced in first place.

Typical Hot uk deals supermarket petrol offer thread
-I never touch supermarket petrol; my mate's mechanic says it will make your engine blow up
- i've used supermarket fuel for 100,000k miles and it's never done my car any harm
- it all comes from the same refinery i've seen the same tanker going everywhere
- COLD only saving a pound or two on full tank
-COLD- 99p last year
-COLD Not a deal they have been raising the prices for weeks
-Still too high look at other countries
-Tax is way too high on petrol; government takes 80% of revenue
-been this price for weeks in my local Esso

Was a bit bored so did some more research. These are forum posts I've come across:

"I previously worked in the Grangemouth refinery.
You are correct that they all get their fuel from the same refineries, but not from the same areas.
Supermarkets, Texaco and the like filled their tankers from another area of the refinery.
Main players (Esso, Shell, BP) got theirs centrally in the refinery from different storage tanks."

"I work for a company that supplies additives to many of the UK fuel suppliers and the answer is yes fuel qualities do differ between companies.
All base fuel in a particular area will come from the same refinery but each company then has its own type and amount of additive added.
Each company will define a minimum performance level that its fuel much achieve and this is achieved by using different additives or more or less of the same additive.
In terms of mpg then yes one of the benefits of a better fuel is more efficient burning and hence less fuel required to achieve the same bang !"

The list goes on. I'm not really sue why I'm posting this, you all seem to have made your mind up already

Me thinks you know nothing about politics.

If an election is called, which way will the people vote?

She would be essentially be kicking them out.

Oh you of little knowledge, T.May may be the leader of the Conservatives and Prime Minister but she can only kick MP's out of the cabinet not out of Westminster, They were voted in by their constituents.
As for the idiots as you call them they only want to be able to vote on " the best deal " that is good for the UK not the best deal that is obtainable. Do you want T.May tohave to except a deal that puts us in a worse position than if we remain.
And don't go on about there is the rest of the world, because places like China will want freedom of movement of their citizens the same as they have done in other counties they trade with. So instead of a flood of Poles nyou'll get a flood of Chinese. Not that some of them are already here.

I believe May will do what I am against, and what I am sure many are against, but will do what is needed, and just kick out the MP's that oppose her.
Dirty, but the right thing doesn't always mean doing the right thing. Democracy needs it.

I voted out, I expect May to honour the winning vote. If we voted in, I'd expect her to do the same. Sure, I'd be annoyed my choice didn't' win...but I wouldn't expect idiots who are against it to try and derail it.

Do you think it will ever happen ?

No problem mate, getting it from the horses mouth so to speak is better than some joker telling you yes you can and then giving you the embarrassment of you arguing with the till operator who must be wrong 'cause humptydumpty on HUKD's said you can stack.

Apologies - suppose I should have Googled Morrisons Fuel offers 2016. I did read this thread through and could see no mention. For others who may need to know, unfortunately they cannot be 'stacked' and have a very short life until 4th December ................ to save you Googling!

It's in the terms and conditions.

Anyone know if these can be 'stacked' like the gift card ones?? Anyone tried - i.e. 2 or 3 in one petrol transaction. Thanks.

I,m sure you can get 70 mpg but not at 80 mph

It's probably also more fuel efficient when you don't use indicators.

I presume there are restrictions on what you spend the £50 on to get the voucher? Otherwise you can pop in and buy two bottles of Malt Whisky and receive the voucher.

So how do I know what sort of fuel economy I can expect?

From a buyer’s perspective, the best way to look at any fuel economy claims is to view them simply as a guide to a car’s relative fuel economy rather than its absolute fuel economy. If your current car is officially rated at 30mpg but you only achieve 24mpg in your own driving, then you can expect a reasonably similar ratio when you’re looking at a new car which is officially rated at 40mpg (so, expect to get roughly 32mpg).

Like I said, BMW say 78.5mpg & I said I get about 70mpg on the motorway. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.

I don't know why you doubt me. I wanted to know how much the journey to Heathrow & back cost me so I did a brim to brim test - £40 there & back, admittedly last year when diesel was a bit cheaper

Certainly not - that journey is nearly all motorway - check the spec: Extra Urban 78.5 mpg
http://www.carpages.co.uk/guide/bmw/bmw-3-series-320d-efficientdynamics-auto.asp

Sorry but you cant change the laws of physics , drag at 80 mph much higher than at 56 mph
What is it with BMW/Audi drivers lol
http://www.mpgforspeed.com/

Yes of course it is at 80 mph lol I get 99.9 mpg with my car some times then i have to give it some throttle
or it comes to standstill .Sorry but your talking load of bo***cks

Sphericals.

yep 70mpg on the motorway old son

popping to Morrisons for my £50 shop this morning, stocking up on Pringles @ £1 :smiley:

320d does a real 70mpg @ 80mph
Sorry but could you please learn to read !!!
Does it say 70mpg @ 80 mph
No chance unless going down long steep hill or been towed
Yes they are incredibly frugal on fuel for there size but not 70 mpg at 80 mph

Apply for the Guinness book of records then, but you will have to have it ratified by them they won't just take your word for it. Just like me.

I would counter by just giving you my own evidence

I drive up to Heathrow & back (from Cornwall) = 525 miles - for £40 of diesel

the 320d is actually more efficient @ 80mph than @ 55 mph

He states without going over 70MPH so perhaps you ought to read your evidence before posting such claims.

:laughing: funny quote

No filter is 100% (sludge can seep through a filter) even the pill, prevention is better than cure, proactive over reactive, I would imagine a soldier understood such importance, apparently not :laughing:

Just one question when the fuel,s transported by rail from refinery to storage depot say 100 miles away
How do they know what area of refinery it came from ie esso get it from center ? . As there is no identification only that they contain petrol/ diesel ect on rail tankers just the hazard codes ie 1203 petrol 1202 diesel
I,m sure you can answer this puzzling question, soon as you worked at refinery :wink:

Strange there has never been any evidence of different mpg when using super market fuel
Maybe car manufactures should publish mpg figures for the various super market brands of fuels lol
Some very far fetched claims on here for better mpg on esso BP ect fuels .
Even they dont make out you may get 10/15% more mpg

No this offer started today in all stores with Petrol stations attached , collect the coupon when you spend £50+ instore up until Sunday 27th November . All vouchers need to be redeemed by Sun 4th December

the effects of mass hysteria.

The 10p off a litre starts Friday

Crap as you call it gets caught by the fuel line filter, what do you think it's there for? just to fill up a space in the engine bay. There's a lot of crap on here

That comes out the retailing profit though, drivers dont pay it, companies do on profit after every loophole has been taken to minimise amount due.

Its not just your fuel line, its the crap going through the engine parts.

Airlines are how you run a car, cheapest fuel, reserve enough to the next petrol station, never on a full tank and regular servicing.

Unfortunate that most people run way past the red light coming on though lol a absolute false economy even if on a budget, damage is caused that need not be.

As for filling up every 100 miles, its good to take a few minutes break from driving, I fill up and just grab a large flask of hot water, small water bottle (cooler) & a jar of Percol Black & Beyond from the kitchen before leaving with some sugar sachets you find everywhere... STOP, revive, SURVIVE :wink:

Besides, coffee from a break/fuel stop, generally vulgar experience of expensive, just like fuel - at least I can avoid one of þe two evils :laughing:

you're forgetting corporation tax pal

How am I wrong when you said 85%? Get a life you............

you're wrong as usual

Gunk in the tank, now I am scared, I always wait for the red light to come on before I fill my tank to the brim. 100's of thousands of miles and never had a fuel line problem.
Airlines will always fuel in the cheapest place possible carrying just enough fuel with a certain reserve level to take into account any diversions they may encounter. Not all countries/airports charge the same per kilogram of fuel.

But the effects of the result have, but their again you don't read the Business section of a news paper do you. The pound down stocks and shares down the list goes on.

Esso DO NOT supply all Tescos only the fuel stations that Esso/Tesco combines.

Luvva boy get your facts sorted before you post in future.

About right as Autocar attested to and best in class for its economy...
With the 3 Series, however, BMW’s claims turn out to be more honest than most. Once more taking the 320d as our example, BMW says it will do 61.4mpg; our own tests driving the car in a gentle but hardly saintly style yielded 56.8mpg.

There is a lot of "Post Truth" content here today

I filled up here a few days ago, right after reading the great 2000° asda cheap fuel deal . didn't post though i just laughed as it is not a deal, just normal price fluctuation despite the obligatory hukd frenzy.

I would never be stupid enough to have a BMW.

320d does a real 70mpg @ 80mph

are you the idiot driving at 50mph in a leased 318d in inner lane whilst all the trucks overtake you @56mph in centre lane, causing me to slow down from 70mph to 57mph whist another idiot overtakes the truck in right lane @57mph.

get a life.

doesn't work with £50 Amazon giftcard

What sort of [email protected] do you drive that you get gunk at the bottom of your tank,and so much so that you have to drive really steady as to not disturb it lol

While good advice generally not necessary. Also for many people running between a quarter and half a tank would mean stopping every 100 miles or for me almost every day.
I changed the fuel pump/pre filter assembly in the tank at 90k and there was virtually no sediment or corrosion in the tank.

For most regular servicing including the inline fuel filter (which often gets missed off) should be enough. As long as you don't run it almost dry regularly.

Not really, it's just become a commonplace and amusing meme now to explain any economical trend nowadays.

Think we've spotted a remoaner though :wink:

Damn, just seen the other posts. When you've got a bee in your bonnet you can't stop. :smile:

Big yawn. Sorry don't know if it's just getting out of bed or because Seaniboy is on his usual soapbox again. Any excuse.

Best advice:

never run under 1/4 of a tank - gunk damages

always fill up whenever possible at night at your nearest garage when the car is going to bed - gunk is better at the bottom of a tank settling there overnight not filling up before driving with a fresh deposit of gunk in the fuel being consumed, add a additive in the morning before setting off
http://www.halfords.com/motoring/engine-oils-fluids/fuel-oil-additives/redex-petrol-multi-shots-4x90ml?cm_mmc=Google+PLA-_-Engine+Oils+and+Fluids-_-Fuel+&+Oil+Additives-_-154447&_$ja=tsid:60494%7Ccgn:GoogleShopping%7Ckw:154447&istCompanyId=b8708c57-7a02-4cf6-b2c0-dc36b54a327e&istItemId=paxwllxpr&istBid=tzwi&_$ja=tsid:35522|cid:344535484|agid:24345231244|tid:pla-211140906724|crid:83795578084|nw:g|rnd:13490949366554693152|dvc:c|adp:1o2&gclid=CLfWi7j5uNACFQgW0wod_RMI0A


fill the tank not far over half, you are burning fuel by carrying excess fuel - there is a reason airlines dont 'fill up' to the max, but never run below 1/4 tank where gunk sits and moves around whilst in motion - also erratic/bad driving does not only burn fuel, it disturbs the gunk sediment off the bottom of the tank


lastly regularly service your car/parts like you do with your own body with food, cleaning and change of whatever as needed.

falling STANDARDS!


:wink:

I'm confused, what is deal here? Can I fill up as big a tank as I want and not pay more than £109.9?

we haven't left.
nothing has changed.
haven't even triggered article 50

No chance.

brexit inflation lol

The UK stating they are leaving the Eu is no different? Really? It's not like we voted to stay? There is no hostage taking. Money markets react to news. The UK having to renegoiate trade deals with every country is a huge thing. This mixed with lower interest rates against a US rising rates has not helped. Personally I think we need to start raising rates here.

Brexit will happen here. Even now the leave vote would still be 43-44% leave vs 45% remain according to the pollsters in the last month. For all the headlines and protests against the leave vote opinion has not really changed that much. Just the remain camp is more vocal.

£0.99 per litre if you spend £50 is okay. Personally I would rather have £5 off at the till instead but Morrisons clearly want to ensure you spend the money with them. I don't see all supermarkets matching this at the pump.

I know Sainsburys have done a few 7p off fuel vouchers at the till if you spend x amount on certain departments. I prefer free points or money off. Of course the larger tank you have the better these deals might be. 40 litre tank will get you almost £4. 100 litre tank gives you nearly £10 off your fuel. Most I suspect would save £4-5 at the pump.

indeed but the day after the vote was no different to the day before. There was no need for the hostage taking. That's all it is.

top deals on that silly 10ways page (ee deals mostly) are paid for ads.

It happens everywhere. I've never believed much that came out of magazines like this.

The vote to leave certainly has happened. The drop in the pound was 100% because of that and the uncertainty relating to it. Not also helped by rising interest rates in the US putting more upward pressure on the dollar.

The reason for the rise lately in oil prices was the view that demand for oil was recovering and oil stocks in countries such as the US were falling. Mix that in with reduced investment to find new places to drill for oil. Not to mention OPEC eventually regaining control of the worldwide oil supply. This slight blip in prices from $54-$46 a barrel probably won't last long.

He probably meant £109.9 per 100litres. Yes massive difference between fiat 500 and his HGV.

Typical Hot uk deals supermarket petrol offer thread
-I never touch supermarket petrol; my mate's mechanic says it will make your engine blow up
- i've used supermarket fuel for 100,000k miles and it's never done my car any harm
- it all comes from the same refinery i've seen the same tanker going everywhere
- COLD only saving a pound or two on full tank
-COLD- 99p last year
-COLD Not a deal they have been raising the prices for weeks
-Still too high look at other countries
-Tax is way too high on petrol; government takes 80% of revenue
-been this price for weeks in my local Esso

What local tuning companies who do the test are being paid for by shell. Dont think so.

* this is a paid for advertisement by Shell. That's what a lot of these "reviews" are, just shrowded adverts paid for by the winning company.

weve recently had a new engineer start where i work and his background was petrol/chemical background. Weve always had this debate at work about quality of fuel, we jumped on him when we found out where he had come from. He said the supermarket stuff does come from the same tank, its the additives that differ, and its the aditives that keep your injectors clean, your o2 sensors cleaner and basically keeps your engine healthier for longer, performing better. Ive filled up with asda crap, driven a mile or so and had the engine light come on, top it u with shell and its gone out. I know other people with different cars who have had the same issue just after filling up with supermarket fuel. Ive got a jap performance magazine, in it they tried to extract the maximum bhp from a car using the different fuels and the difference in bhp was quite a lot. Shell came out top.

Brexiteer spotted.

In fact you have a Mr Trump to thank for the falling prices.

would you receive the voucher on purchase of gift cards as well?
anyone has access to T&C for the 10p off on purchase of 50£?

Brexit hasn't happened.

Anyone claiming prices because of 'brexit' are full of the smelly stuff.

Typical, the banks and corporations holding the economy hostage. Surely this has never happened before.......

Fuel prices are up 40-50% compared to their lows of $28 a barrel in Jan 2016. Now about $19 higher. Also factor in the plunging value of the pound vs the dollar. Pound is down about 20% against dollar since brexit. All fuel is traded in dollar. So that 40-50% increase in fuel now has a 20% surcharge on it till the pound recovers. £1 a litre is a long way off now.

I think what most garages like BP, Shell and others charge really depends on what the local supermarkets are charging. Remember supermarkets can afford to run petrol as a loss leader. Discounts on fuel offset by profits made in store. A £50 shop instore will make them a lot of money. People come for the fuel may also shop instore too.

This road tax paye idea I don't think will work at present. Collecting money at the pump is a very efficient and easy way to generate taxes. You are in effect taxed for what you use. I do think cost of tax disc should rise as 0-35 quid on some cars is nothing. As more cars become eco friendly and fuel use drops the government will quickly change tact. Many years off this as the technology is not main stream.

Not close enough to a Morrisons to make this deal work for me. £50 is a lot to spend in one shop for me. Assuming the goods are not overly priced in first place.

It seems a bit odd that quality may vary yet the businesses selling the higher quality product choose not to market this fact.

Note: I'm not disputing whether or not the ingredients differ. But if this had a noticeable effect on quality, why wouldn't that be used as a selling tool? It is for 'premium' products.

Funny that Esso supply ALL Tesco's yet they get their fuel elsewhere. :smiley:

Stop sh1tposting.
No facts to back anything you say up.
Typical HUKD hero.

I ride a bike. So don't care about the prices at the moment

Was a bit bored so did some more research. These are forum posts I've come across:

"I previously worked in the Grangemouth refinery.
You are correct that they all get their fuel from the same refineries, but not from the same areas.
Supermarkets, Texaco and the like filled their tankers from another area of the refinery.
Main players (Esso, Shell, BP) got theirs centrally in the refinery from different storage tanks."

"I work for a company that supplies additives to many of the UK fuel suppliers and the answer is yes fuel qualities do differ between companies.
All base fuel in a particular area will come from the same refinery but each company then has its own type and amount of additive added.
Each company will define a minimum performance level that its fuel much achieve and this is achieved by using different additives or more or less of the same additive.
In terms of mpg then yes one of the benefits of a better fuel is more efficient burning and hence less fuel required to achieve the same bang !"

The list goes on. I'm not really sue why I'm posting this, you all seem to have made your mind up already

No research,just personal experience,as for the local drunk?I don't know you,now go away you silly little person.

fantastic deal

Until next weeks Autumn statement where he is likely to close to loophole's on EV's. To many people flaunted the tax dodge & reduced BiK

I used BP (forced to as I was on empty on the motorway) my MPG dropped from a steady 49MPG (Tesco) to 44MPG.
I also tried Esso - that returned 52MPG - but Esso is pita to get to

Asda put it down 2p then a few days later up a penny to £1.10.7 by us.still a lot better than the near £1.30 days.

its all the same fuel, there are 6 refineries in the uk and all pick up the fuel from the same pump at the refinery, please just buy the cheap stuff as its all the same, duty of fuel is everything above 48p is before vat, 12p for vat, everything above 60p a litre is duty to the government to employee people who just pretend to work and push paper about

There is none. They are just sh1tposting.

putting redex into your tank every 6 fills is still cheaper than paying 5-10p a litre extra for BP or Shell.

Also, there is no evidence that their fuel offers anything better.
It all comes out of the same refinery and the only difference is additives, often so minute, it's barely detected by tests.

I suppose you've done your research rather than listening to the local drunk? Thought not.

Morrisons must be watering the petrol down judging by some of the comments on here
:confused:

​most taxi drivers do short journeys and leave their engines idling for long periods of time to keep warm!

Love Morrison's,brings out the fuel scientists with no evidence....

I know :wink: it was a common hypothetical question, fact and resolution - plough that tax solely into public transport services and hey more people will have a travelpass with reliable service not a pollutant outside the door, win/win :wink:

I for one think road tax should be a monthly expensive lifted by PAYE, £50 for those in tax, £75 for higher tax payers more for any higher brackets - generally the more money one has the more they use the roads because fuel poverty of any kind is just a fairytale to most them. Road use is overused & underfunded, companies esp should pay higher per vehicle and force them to use rail more to drop off points and allow use of vehicles local/regional - the main roads are full of trucks, a public body company should be pulling rail freight for non profit as a environmental and road damage issue, but every government just keeps buying expensive road 'plaster' repairs.

Why with oil so cheap is petrol/diesel so high...

No where is there a bigger monopoly than barrel$ of oil

If they took the tax and ploughed it into public transport we would really be getting somewhere.

Morrisons sell just the worst **** fuel you can possibly buy. I'm surprised they can legally call it petrol/diesel. You'll save your 2p a litre but get a significantly worse mpg. Total false economy.

Petrol should be 90p maximum, good job my car does 60mpg.

Pity the big petrol companies - Esso Shell, BP etc haven't reduced their prices similarly.

Thieves!

Well primary teachers are hardly subjected to intense scrutiny per child and how they are progressing every child under their leadership, also this one jack of all trades teaching is so 19hundreds educational system, planet earth has evolved and UK education has been stalling for decades. Aint no government/party in 50 years evolved education past the Victorian structure, except from removing physical punishment (and more physical exercise). Welcome to a booming prebrexit Britain, lets see how this all pans out... :laughing:

bloddy hell ! just woke up, what happened to the word overnight for the petrol prices to go up by 100 times ? :confused:

Always makes me chuckle a little when I see the price of petrol/diesel. Don't miss it one bit. Ditched my petrol car in January for an EV - same price as my previous car lease + petrol at £1/litre for a far better car.

Good deal though. TBH EVs aren't cheaper, they're just a tax dodge. Government grants + no VED + tax on fuel is only 5%. Even out the tax burden and it wouldn't be cheaper. Cheers for subsidising my transportation, taxpayers :sunglasses:

Doh! My mistake.

You said £106 not 106p massive difference.

What?

Brexit :man:

It might be that price in about 20 years. but 106.9p is a good price for today.

106.9p in Costco.

£109.9 ? Don't you mean 109.9p

Massive difference

No supermarket petrol stations near me = 115.9 for unleaded and 118.9 for diesel (and that's after 2p cut this week)

Great it will be that at my local store by tomorrow also,
Currently the same price as the local Sainsbury's with me. £113.9 diesel & £111.9 Petrol

​its 109.9 and 110.9 for diesel in Kettering and some other places.

Didn't get voucher on our big shop yesterday - is that offer starting tomo too?

Diesel yesterday 111.7 at my store

already been that price a fee days now