wonder if they'll use that old far east movement to promote the g6... i mean they are korean...
Smartguy1
28 Nov 16#37
Maybe the BBC could be privatised next and we could all save on our licence fee. Sorry guys but I like the adverts, some are more entertaining than the programmes. Maybe streaming is the way forward as you only need a licence to view live recordings. I am still waiting for the broadband or the mobile phone tax. The government loves to have their tax on our luxuries.
JDPower
28 Nov 16#36
Well this deal was non-existent, much like the NHS soon will be :stuck_out_tongue:
Smartguy1
28 Nov 16#35
Yes. What we are saying is buy a G5 now before you have to start paying for your nursing care. If you have no money because you have spent it all they cannot charge you. It is all about being able to buy (at a good price) the latest LG phone. Least it is now as we are back on track. I don't suppose the op got it wrong and this deal happened today and I missed it. Oh well, the G6 will be out soon and maybe this deal will be correct one day.
gosciu
28 Nov 16#34
is this thread about lg g5 or some NHS, because I am confused
Smartguy1
27 Nov 16#33
It was all very sad at the time and Social Services caught me off guard. I was going to raise an official complaint about the social worker's methods but after a bit of research it seems a common place. Looks like people just accept it but its sad to think for those of us who work all or most of our lives, pay our taxes etc and then at the end of your life, have to dip into savings or sell assets you had planned to leave to your children and grandchildren, to pay for your nursing care. And those who spend everything they earn or never work, get it all for free..........The moral is don't be old and skint but don't be old and have money over the government's threshold either.
Something needs to be done about not only the growing population but people are living longer too. I had a meeting with someone from the DWP recently and he openly said about retirement is that what the government want is for you to work until your 69 and be dead by the time you're 70. So long as they don't introduce what they did in the film and series Logan's Run we'll be fine.
Yes, not a good place for infections. Quite strange really that you go there to get well and end up with something else. I suppose the elderly are susceptible more.
ktown
27 Nov 16#32
Wow, that does sound like a really sad situation. Yes, there is a strong emphasis on discharging patients - for 2 reasons, one due to the lack of capacity of hospitals (our population is evergrowing but there is no increase in any sort of capacity within the hospitals) and patients who stay in for longer are prone to all sorts of infections. I work in the clinical side of things, so can't really comment about social services - but yes unfortunately taking over someone's property only to provide subpar care - and even for that they have to wait for such a long time is not acceptable. But it's not just for care home/nursing homes - you see so many waiting for placements for rehabilitation and often they'll just get an infection and become unwell on the ward. It's disheartening and just so sad.
I'm just waiting for them to install card machines in A&E!
And the deliberate destruction of the NHS is about complete, so full privatisation will be along any moment:
Smartguy1
27 Nov 16#30
It would be interesting to see the bed blocking statistics of patients who rent and have less than £22,000 savings compared with those who own their own home outright. I had first hand experience of this with my dad who had a stroke and after only being in hospital for two weeks I received a phone call from social services to arrange long term care plans for my dad. I said isn't this a bit early. Bearing in mind that my dad already had a social services provided adult social care package in place they knew his financial status. The first question the social worker asked me, less than one minute of our introduction, was "does your dad own his own home". Then around his bed she asked if he had a recent financial assessment and did I know about deferred payments. There was only one criteria on their agenda. I wish I had known then what I know now. I later tried to obtain a copy of his discharge notice issued to social services but I never got it. It would appear that we have certain guidelines set out in the care act which had possibly been deliberately disregarded in my dad's case. What is really bad here is he was semi conscious while all this was going on around his bed and he would have been severely upset if he had any thought that social services was going to take his house. Three days later he took a turn for the worse and was put on end of life care, about a week after he looked like he was recovering. At no point did the social worker explain anything about continuing care. She was only interested in what assets my dad had.
My understanding of how a long term care plan works is this. The hospital must first do a continuing care assessment (in the first part) to establish who is paying for the care before handing that and a discharge notice to social services. If this isn't done then how can social services take on someone without knowing who is paying for the care. My guess in my dad's case is they already knew that my dad's assets exceeded the threshold because when my mum had a stroke four years ago none of this happened and she was in hospital for two months before she died.
When my mum had her stroke social services obviously knew my mum was married to dad and therefore any long term care would have to be paid either by the NHS or Social Services because their assets were joint owned. In this case the longer Social Services leave someone in hospital the longer they get away without paying and we did request that she be moved into a nursing home. It never happened.
I queried the quickness of the hospital wanting to discharge my dad into a nursing home so quickly and made comparisons to my mum's stroke with the discharge nurse. What I got back was a load of carp. Their strokes were so similar you could not have predicted it. The requirement of moving my dad without the proper paperwork in place looked to have been done to stop bed blocking knowing the family will pay (on paper). I appreciate this is a problem with shortage of beds by this awful government but if we have acts of law in place then they need to be followed. On my dad's ward there were people, like you say, who appeared to be medically fit and shouldn't have been there. As cynical as I am, they all probably had wives or partners or lived in rented accommodation. When I finally get over this I may call on some 'research' under the freedom of information act. I think my findings could prove interesting.
On the subject of costs this is all too familiar in government establishments. I have worked many years as a buyer in construction or construction related industries. Buying is a skill easily learned and it doesn't even matter if you are familiar with a product or not. The majority of buying is just down to plain old common sense and honesty. The latter part I am sure has been questioned many times or should be for people who are willing to spend 10 times the normal amount of an item. The company I work for job cost every single project and all purchases are audited. If only people buying toilet rolls for the NHS knew the real cost or cared about the real cost then perhaps we wouldn't be in the situation we are in now. Or perhaps they do know the real cost but are getting the cost back by other means!
ktown
27 Nov 16#29
No doubt. I work within the NHS and you really see the implication of the social care cuts. There are so many bed blockages in hospital, with medically fit patients just waiting for a placement - and they stay around for months, by the time they get an infection and get poorly again. It just feels like the government is working towards bringing it down - ofcourse pointing the blame at staff - and being "inefficient". Truth is, the NHS totally works on the goodwill of it's staff. The inefficiencies come from the amount of money the NHS spends on it's resources - for example paying upto 5 pounds for a loo roll - no doubt from private contractors. There's a lot of money to be made from the NHS going private and no doubt Branson and the boys are rubbing their hands with glee at the current progress. Oh, and the current health minister actually wrote a chapter in a book about NHS privatisation so I'm guessing he's not too opposed!!
Smartguy1
27 Nov 16#28
I didn't know the NHS was an asset. Adult Social Care is something the government will want rid of too. It's costing a fortune and not something you can easily put a budget on as I found out myself recently. The government wants you to pay into a system all your working life and when you come to the end of that life they want you to pay for your own care as well. You are better off making sure you spend all your money, live well, treat your kids and grand kids and die poor.
I know this is slightly off track but just use your money to by many LG G5's or similar on your journey through life because you may as well have the enjoyment today. No doubt if they want to privatise the NHS they will still want us to pay 10% privatisation contributions (previously NHS contributions) in addition to any private healthcare we may need. Not to mention that anyone who doesn't have any money won't be asked to pay.
ktown
27 Nov 16#27
NHS. Next 5 years. Everyone is going to realise how good it was.
Smartguy1
26 Nov 16#26
That's a bit worrying about having another Thatcherite in power. At least this time around we have no assets left to sell but if we did the profitable ones would be sold for peanuts and the ones costing the country money would remain government owned.
Firefly1
26 Nov 16#25
Can we have an update from the mods re: proof of deal and ban status of OP?
Thanks
Pspvita
26 Nov 16#24
use lg bridge software
davehtemaestro
26 Nov 16#23
Anyone know of any good details for the G5?
matengawhat
26 Nov 16#22
How did you do the update?
ktown
26 Nov 16#21
So...I think I got a decent deal on the G5. Flubit offered 388 and quidco tracked 53 on that deal so with cashbook it's 335 (this is for the friends bundle BTW)
rasdonny
26 Nov 16#20
Corbyn is a 'new-age' socialist...May is the 'same-old' Thatcher-ite Tory-demoniac.
Pspvita
26 Nov 16#19
loving my g5 now with android 7.0
Rubisco
26 Nov 16#18
May is a socialist. Corbyn is a trot.
pengwyn
25 Nov 16#17
Corbyn is a socialist. And May is the loon
mikeyfive
25 Nov 16#16
Nothing to do with socialism, just depressing that people don't seem to be able to think for themselves nowadays.
Corbyn's an absolute loon.
pengwyn
25 Nov 16#15
Stop voting them in let's all vote corbyn for a change up with the socialists
rasdonny
25 Nov 16#14
Indeed ...keeping the sheeple permanently in debt ...whilst paying them pittance for wages...modern day workhouses....whilst they are buying billion pound yachts.
Gollywood
25 Nov 16#13
I wonder how many HUKDers had this listed on eBay for a quick profit?
mikeyfive
25 Nov 16#12
And sheeple.
rasdonny
25 Nov 16#11
because it's all a con... ...consumerism is the new slavery.
ktown
25 Nov 16#10
Cyber Monday actually..... and I've heard from my 2nd cousins best friend who delivers sandwiches to the cleaners working in the Burger King opposite the Scunthorpe branch that this deal will definitely be on Monday
mikeyfive
25 Nov 16#9
Yep. £2bn spent this Black Friday? I genuinely haven't seen one decent deal this year.
Gollywood
25 Nov 16#8
I dont get all the anger. I mean you need to take a close look at yourself if your day was ruined by non-existent BF deals!
The retailers treat 'us' all like mugs because...'we' act like mugs, without fail, everytime.
And 'we'll' do it again on Manic Monday or whatever it's called.
mikeyfive
25 Nov 16#7
HUKD isn't a charity run for the good of us all? Well, that's just spoiled my Christmas :disappointed:
Gollywood
25 Nov 16#6
You baaastaaard!!
Only kidding.
DannyBoy99
25 Nov 16#5
It is like quidco in that the referral fee gets paid as long as something gets bought. Doesn't matter if it was the item in the deal or not.
pengwyn
25 Nov 16#4
I thought it's like quidco. If the proof isn't right their is no referral link payout to hukd the mod is wasting our time and the sites own. You don't get payouts if someone buys something else, do you? I'm now looking towards boxing day the real black friday not this over hyped over marketed bag of ****
DannyBoy99
25 Nov 16#3
For all the people asking why this didn't get expired/deleted, consider how much money HUKD made from all the click-throughs from people who reserved a G5 then bought something else from Argos while they were there. Deals like this get kept alive for a reason.
DannyBoy99
25 Nov 16#2
For all the people asking why this didn't get expired/deleted, consider how much money HUKD made from all the click-throughs from people who reserved a G5 then bought something else from Argos while they were there. Deals like this get kept alive for a reason.
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Something needs to be done about not only the growing population but people are living longer too. I had a meeting with someone from the DWP recently and he openly said about retirement is that what the government want is for you to work until your 69 and be dead by the time you're 70. So long as they don't introduce what they did in the film and series Logan's Run we'll be fine.
Yes, not a good place for infections. Quite strange really that you go there to get well and end up with something else. I suppose the elderly are susceptible more.
I'm just waiting for them to install card machines in A&E!
And the deliberate destruction of the NHS is about complete, so full privatisation will be along any moment:
My understanding of how a long term care plan works is this. The hospital must first do a continuing care assessment (in the first part) to establish who is paying for the care before handing that and a discharge notice to social services. If this isn't done then how can social services take on someone without knowing who is paying for the care. My guess in my dad's case is they already knew that my dad's assets exceeded the threshold because when my mum had a stroke four years ago none of this happened and she was in hospital for two months before she died.
When my mum had her stroke social services obviously knew my mum was married to dad and therefore any long term care would have to be paid either by the NHS or Social Services because their assets were joint owned. In this case the longer Social Services leave someone in hospital the longer they get away without paying and we did request that she be moved into a nursing home. It never happened.
I queried the quickness of the hospital wanting to discharge my dad into a nursing home so quickly and made comparisons to my mum's stroke with the discharge nurse. What I got back was a load of carp. Their strokes were so similar you could not have predicted it. The requirement of moving my dad without the proper paperwork in place looked to have been done to stop bed blocking knowing the family will pay (on paper). I appreciate this is a problem with shortage of beds by this awful government but if we have acts of law in place then they need to be followed. On my dad's ward there were people, like you say, who appeared to be medically fit and shouldn't have been there. As cynical as I am, they all probably had wives or partners or lived in rented accommodation. When I finally get over this I may call on some 'research' under the freedom of information act. I think my findings could prove interesting.
On the subject of costs this is all too familiar in government establishments. I have worked many years as a buyer in construction or construction related industries. Buying is a skill easily learned and it doesn't even matter if you are familiar with a product or not. The majority of buying is just down to plain old common sense and honesty. The latter part I am sure has been questioned many times or should be for people who are willing to spend 10 times the normal amount of an item. The company I work for job cost every single project and all purchases are audited. If only people buying toilet rolls for the NHS knew the real cost or cared about the real cost then perhaps we wouldn't be in the situation we are in now. Or perhaps they do know the real cost but are getting the cost back by other means!
I know this is slightly off track but just use your money to by many LG G5's or similar on your journey through life because you may as well have the enjoyment today. No doubt if they want to privatise the NHS they will still want us to pay 10% privatisation contributions (previously NHS contributions) in addition to any private healthcare we may need. Not to mention that anyone who doesn't have any money won't be asked to pay.
Thanks
Corbyn's an absolute loon.
...keeping the sheeple permanently in debt ...whilst paying them pittance for wages...modern day workhouses....whilst they are buying billion pound yachts.
...consumerism is the new slavery.
I genuinely haven't seen one decent deal this year.
The retailers treat 'us' all like mugs because...'we' act like mugs, without fail, everytime.
And 'we'll' do it again on Manic Monday or whatever it's called.
Well, that's just spoiled my Christmas :disappointed:
Only kidding.