Any TV that is 8 bit and claims HDR, only allow the signal to be processed, you won't actually see the gains.

Some TVs then do 8 bit + frame rate control. slightly better image and colour reproduction, but for movies only, as this method adds massive input lag for gaming.

If you are looking at gaming on the Xbox One S and PS4 Pro, make sure the panel is 10bit, and do some research regarding its input lag.

Sony and TV manufacturers are not helping at all with all of the shady bullcrap they put in their marketing.

For gaming, you must make sure the Game mode supports the HDR feature. Anything over 40ms lag, and you'll start to feel it quite a lot in first person shooters.

Reduced to £419 now

Exactly...

Smart TVs are a menace - they will be bug-ridden and go out of date very quickly. Dongles such as Chromecast are the way to keep ahead of the game. Don't pay a penny more of a "smart" TV than a "dumb" one.

Search on here for Samsung ks7000 cracking deal on them 55 inch and 49 inch even cheaper

Please tell me how exactly "better" .... I will await for your highly intelligent in tech response :neutral_face:

post from few weeks ago for Samsung UE50KU6000 for £450 from Argos with code was better deal than this.

Look for sets that have the Ultra Hd Premium logo in theory they should tick all the boxes with the exeption of input lag if gaming is a part of your need.Be aware that Sony have not signed up for this they do indeed produce sets that would get the UHD Premium branding so doing a bit of digging youself would be prudent.I would look for good prices on the Samsung KS range they seem to be getting very good reviews at the moment.

http://www.whathifi.com/advice/ultra-hd-premium-what-are-specs-which-tvs-support-it

What particular models should one watch out for in Black Friday? 10Bit panels and future proof, works well with PS4 Pro etc etc

If you want HDR, 4K and it's for gaming, any of the Samsung KS7000/KS8000 range are among the very best. with an average input lag time of around 20ms. And have very good brightness for HDR. However, they are IPS screens so blacks may not be VA panel like quality, and obviously neither beat OLED for blacks.

It's very much going to be bases around budget. Sometimes the really cheap deals on certain sets are for a reason. How much you spending.

This person did not buy a Chromecast on my advice. They already have a Chromecast and are trying to connect it to an extremely old TV, which has no (free?) HDMI input, via an adaptor. That is a whole new level of complication.

Chromecast does not output a 1080i signal, only 1080p or 720p

Anne, you should not have bought the Chromecast (contrary to suggested earlier). You should have bought the SmartTV and you would not have had this problem. See if you can return it if you only bought it today after pibpob's advice. I think you may get your money back and then hopefully be able to get a Smart TV.

I looked up this "HDFury 2" - it seems to be a breathtakingly overpriced HDMI to VGA converter. The Chromecast is a source of HDMI video. You therefore can't connect it "downstream" of the HDFury. Do you mean you are connecting the Chromecast to the TV's VGA input via the HDFury? Because if so, I suspect it is the fault of the HDFury for not allowing you to specify the capabilities of the device which it is feeding.

I am thinking that you may be are being wrong when you say chromecast is the way to go. I have a 1080i TV but am being connect to it using HDFury 2. The HDFury broadcasts its full compatibility (ie 1080p) to the downstream devices such as Chromecast, then Chromecast sends a 1080p signal back to the HDFury and on to the TV. The TV is not of supporting 1080p and therefore does not get a picture. So am thinking Chromecast is not way to go. The Smart TV would have been working.

That is because software to play MP3s is a static function which is mile away from applications running on a smart TV, which are constantly evolving. It's not comparable.

It doesn't work like that I'm afraid. You can only "just update the software" if the manufacturer of the television allows you to, and it is not in their interest because it it costs them money to provide the new software, and they sell fewer new TVs. It's the same as the constant moans about the latest Android release not being available for a particular mobile phone or tablet. These are consumer electronic devices, not personal computers.

I have to agree with lsikia, dates are set and that is a fact which you cannot argue with. Smart Tv's may be smart but as you point out the software evolves which actually negates and contradicts your own point because you just update the software which is much easier to do than having to update the hardware. If you update the software then it is no longer out of date. It is not much different to buying a laptop because they also need updating. MY house needs updating but I still bought it and now my car is out of date as well. Just thinking about it makes me age. I understand your point though. I think you may be right.

I have some software on a 9 year old iPod and it is not out of date but the hardware cannot connect to the new MacBook pro with out the latest bit of hardware cable.

True, but just pointing out to the OP that "smart" is not a selling feature.

No it doesn't. The expensive parts of TVs (displays, power supplies, mechanics) do not evolve nearly as rapidly as the software and processing requirements of the ancillary "smart" features, which are very similar to mobile phones.

Decent prices on the Samsung K7000 models right now it would fit your needs some are holding back mind you with black friday drawing nearer.This particular TV will give no benefit for HDR and also with it's UH 6 designation it's likely to be a FauxK panel rather than full 4K only LG produce these panels.

You should definitely research the performance/quality with reference to the price. I can recommend that the TV with the best performance would be one where the quality is very good for the price and that you are getting the right quality as well. Only a suitable TV would fit that requirement but would be a lot more than others that cost less. In the 49" TV version then I would recommend you at least look at the manufacturers where quality is really superb and you get reasonable performance but it is worth paying for. Many more expensive TV's can compete but I think the one I suggest really meets all your needs. Good luck.

Any TV that is 8 bit and claims HDR, only allow the signal to be processed, you won't actually see the gains.

Some TVs then do 8 bit + frame rate control. slightly better image and colour reproduction, but for movies only, as this method adds massive input lag for gaming.

If you are looking at gaming on the Xbox One S and PS4 Pro, make sure the panel is 10bit, and do some research regarding its input lag.

Sony and TV manufacturers are not helping at all with all of the shady bullcrap they put in their marketing.

For gaming, you must make sure the Game mode supports the HDR feature. Anything over 40ms lag, and you'll start to feel it quite a lot in first person shooters.

Price would suggest a 8 bit HDR panel and Xbox One games are 10bit so don't rely on the HDR if your deciding