I just saw this in a flyer and found it online too.
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shadey12 to sam_of_london
28 Nov 164#7
change your name to Sam full of misinformation.
why do you think you can go to poundland and take a blurred photo of anything random you can afford, stick that on here as a deal, when its a pound or less all the time, then hunt for someone else's deals to spread misinformation about,
is it because your jealous?
Gormond to Soukmadik
29 Nov 163#11
That's not true, all AC-DC convertors draw a small idle current when no load is attached.
There are some USB wall sockets that detect if no items are plugged in and switch off the power but this doesn't look to be one of them.
Expect to be told it is useless as it's not 3.1 volts despite the price. Also expect to be told it is unsafe as you can't switch the USB off.
theskippies to HotUKDuncan
28 Nov 161#4
now told
sam_of_london
28 Nov 16#3
Also waste of electricity if cannot turn off
shadey12 to sam_of_london
28 Nov 164#7
change your name to Sam full of misinformation.
why do you think you can go to poundland and take a blurred photo of anything random you can afford, stick that on here as a deal, when its a pound or less all the time, then hunt for someone else's deals to spread misinformation about,
is it because your jealous?
Soukmadik
28 Nov 161#5
If nothing is plugged into the USB port it is NOT using electricity, there is no load/resistance to generate a current flow.
Gormond to Soukmadik
29 Nov 163#11
That's not true, all AC-DC convertors draw a small idle current when no load is attached.
There are some USB wall sockets that detect if no items are plugged in and switch off the power but this doesn't look to be one of them.
SWERVE_79
28 Nov 16#6
Twin pack £11.99 at Argos
galoka
29 Nov 16#8
They can waste electricity if badly designed - just like some badly designed plugin chargers (not so much nowadays, but was much more common)
There are also safety issues with some of them (eg. general poor construction, poor separation between mains and low voltage side, poor design of the LV side). Hopefully not with decent brand products, but I'd be very wary of cheap ones, no name one etc. juts like I'm very wary of cheap plugin chargers (one got extremely hot and plastic deformed, one started buzzing and fell apart). It's really not worth it for saving a few quid.
And in a few years when it's all USB-C they will be annoying :-)
bazpoint
29 Nov 161#9
Used to be vaguely concerned about the waste of electricity leaving chargers plugged in (not enough to really do anything about it, but still...) - until EDF came and fitted the smart meter last week - now we have a readout of our current use in pence per hour... of course did the standard thing of going round turning things on and off to see what uses what.
Turns out that our night time use, with 3 fridges, 3 TVs, a couple of radios, and a monitor on standby, a laptop "sleeping" but active, 2 printers on standby, android box, fire stick and 2 chromecasts plugged in, 3 active baby monitor cameras plus receiver, a small nightlight, and lastly at least half a dozen chargers plugged in (that I can think of)... with all that going on, our use is... 1p per hour. I'm well aware it all adds up, and that's £90ish a year, but I'll happily pay that not to run around switching all that stuff on and off at the plug every day.
Other appliances are something else entirely of course - we've become allergic to the tumble dryer in the space of a week (24pph!), the microwave isn't as popular as it once was (19pph), the oven gets turned off the second supper is done (lots pph), and watching the monitor while boiling the kettle has almost ruined my morning cuppa!
mummymelly to bazpoint
29 Nov 162#10
Tumble dryer 24p per hour? I don't actually think that's too bad! :confused:
PiratePete to bazpoint
29 Nov 161#13
Well said. I don't have a smart meter and refuse to get one as life is too short to be worrying about living on a timer ! Allways suspected items on sleep mode used not enough to worry about and as I use about a third of what you do £30 a year is a good price to save me living time to turn them all off !!
the__cat to bazpoint
29 Nov 16#16
Mate you're doing it wrong. Just flick the main switch on your CU and everything will go off without having to run around :stuck_out_tongue:
bazpoint
29 Nov 16#12
Haha, that's on the cooler "synthetics" setting - I haven't checked what it is on "cottons" yet!
marleymoomom
29 Nov 16#14
looks a good deal but I bought the Lisse USB socket from Homebase.
you buy the shelf seperate for an extra 1.99 . I have put one in my sons room to stop his tablet and phone from being kicked/trodden on and have also put one in the kitchen. It also comes with a spacer so it will fit 25mm back boxes
Soukmadik
29 Nov 16#15
From the MK website ......Zero standby power consumption, auto disconnect when plug
removed,
If this shares the 2.1A between ports while two devices are connected it might result in slow charges.
galoka
29 Nov 16#18
Oh sure, I wasn't really commenting as regards cost, just a reply to the comment about them not using any electricity when something not plugged in. Modern chargers are very good, pretty much switching off, just a very tiny. power usage but some old ones were pretty rubbish. Certainly not worth worrying about them all. Certainly modern producta on standby use <1W nowadays. It's the white goods that rack up the pounds really
Surprised your night time usage is that low though. 1p/hr suggests about equivalent of 100W running continuously, which isn't much. We don't get anywhere near that, our base load is in the order of about 400 W IIRC (though there is a fish tank - 100W heater on a roughly 50% duty cycle and a low power server on 24/7)
pibpob
29 Nov 16#19
That's because it will have a mechanical switch in the socket to switch off the supply (like a shaver socket). Nice try but no cigar.
Gormond
29 Nov 16#20
What's your point here? I already said that some products can do that but this isn't one of them.
javey93
30 Nov 161#21
For some like me, although mainly motivated by my wallet, it's an ethical decision too. Until 100% green energy is coming into our homes, I'm not happy leaving devices plugged in pulling power when they're not in use.
javey93
30 Nov 161#22
Seen this bloke spouting rubbish so many times previously. Can we not just ban him on the grounds of being unfactual? :laughing:
pibpob
30 Nov 16#23
I expect you know this but others might not: if you measure your consumption with a clip-on energy meter (or even a cheap plug-in one) it takes no account of power factor, and the power factor of small electronic devices is very poor. The net result is that the meter will give an inaccurately high reading when there is not much power being consumed. Timing the flashes on the electricity meter (or the display on a smart meter) is the only way to get an accurate figure.
Soukmadik
30 Nov 16#24
I apologise if the term "AUTO DISCONNECT" confuses you......... no banana for you :smile:
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why do you think you can go to poundland and take a blurred photo of anything random you can afford, stick that on here as a deal, when its a pound or less all the time, then hunt for someone else's deals to spread misinformation about,
is it because your jealous?
There are some USB wall sockets that detect if no items are plugged in and switch off the power but this doesn't look to be one of them.
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http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-elec/2213u/2-gang-switched-socket-with-usb/dp/PL14985
Or if you want 3 .... screwfix http://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-13a-2g-sp-switched-socket-2-1a-2g-usb-charger-white-pack-of-3/1122p
why do you think you can go to poundland and take a blurred photo of anything random you can afford, stick that on here as a deal, when its a pound or less all the time, then hunt for someone else's deals to spread misinformation about,
is it because your jealous?
There are some USB wall sockets that detect if no items are plugged in and switch off the power but this doesn't look to be one of them.
There are also safety issues with some of them (eg. general poor construction, poor separation between mains and low voltage side, poor design of the LV side). Hopefully not with decent brand products, but I'd be very wary of cheap ones, no name one etc. juts like I'm very wary of cheap plugin chargers (one got extremely hot and plastic deformed, one started buzzing and fell apart). It's really not worth it for saving a few quid.
And in a few years when it's all USB-C they will be annoying :-)
Turns out that our night time use, with 3 fridges, 3 TVs, a couple of radios, and a monitor on standby, a laptop "sleeping" but active, 2 printers on standby, android box, fire stick and 2 chromecasts plugged in, 3 active baby monitor cameras plus receiver, a small nightlight, and lastly at least half a dozen chargers plugged in (that I can think of)... with all that going on, our use is... 1p per hour. I'm well aware it all adds up, and that's £90ish a year, but I'll happily pay that not to run around switching all that stuff on and off at the plug every day.
Other appliances are something else entirely of course - we've become allergic to the tumble dryer in the space of a week (24pph!), the microwave isn't as popular as it once was (19pph), the oven gets turned off the second supper is done (lots pph), and watching the monitor while boiling the kettle has almost ruined my morning cuppa!
you buy the shelf seperate for an extra 1.99 . I have put one in my sons room to stop his tablet and phone from being kicked/trodden on and have also put one in the kitchen. It also comes with a spacer so it will fit 25mm back boxes
removed,
https://www.mkelectric.com/Documents/2015%20Catalogue%20Update/Catalogue%20PDF/UKMK393-0315-EN_USB_FINAL.pdf
:smirk:
Surprised your night time usage is that low though. 1p/hr suggests about equivalent of 100W running continuously, which isn't much. We don't get anywhere near that, our base load is in the order of about 400 W IIRC (though there is a fish tank - 100W heater on a roughly 50% duty cycle and a low power server on 24/7)