I've known this Astronaut guy for years (very trustworthy), anyway he insists that I don't use supermarket Dilithium Crystals it puts tremendous strain on the Warp Engines.

Phew, didn't have time to fill up my tank this morning, will save £1.68 tomorrow...

​I'm also a mechanic and although I prefer not to use supermarket fuel I still do. There have been no studies to prove that long term use of one brand of fuel over another improves engine life, performance, or mpg. The problem is the brands don't tell us what additives they include and whether they are beneficial to; older or newer engines, conservative drivers, boy racers, professional drivers, regularly serviced, rarely serviced, short or long journeys etc etc. The additives could be snake oil, literally! As a mechanic it's very difficult to prove that an internal engine fault is the cause of supermarket fuel or the additives supposedly included in premium fuels.

Phew, didn't have time to fill up my tank this morning, will save £1.68 tomorrow...

Expect Morrisons to follow like a Sheep

It is a bad thing, Morrisons never ever reduce their fuel prices first, they only reluctantly follow when Asda/Sainsburys have reduced first.

So they price match like 100's of other retailers not sure why thats bad, its saving money. You post amazon deals, they price match, often reducing prices after argos or tesco do, how is that any different?

Three cheers for Asda.
They are always the first to break rank.

In terms of this deal which is about "Fuel", Morrisons never take the initiative to reduce their price first.
Which part of this statement don't you get? :innocent: -The clue is in the bold part if you don't twig

I've stopped using Asda for petrol, a few people I know have told me the fuel from Asda disappears quicker than other suppliers.

​Not true http://www.briefreport.co.uk/news/morrisons-leads-the-way-for-bank-holiday-fuel-cut-1687340.html

Their fruit and veg is so poor though you might be able to harness enough biogas from what goes in the bin to supplement your fuel bills!

The price should drop,
in the last month the oil price has dropped $6 a barrel.
They act like there doing us a favor.

cheers for the heads up Craig!

tesco fuel no thx I'll pay a bit more for proper fuel

Goddam Brexit! oh.... wait

This is good if you use supermarket or not as it drives the general price down.

Always seems to be the day after I fill my car.

​I'm also a mechanic and although I prefer not to use supermarket fuel I still do. There have been no studies to prove that long term use of one brand of fuel over another improves engine life, performance, or mpg. The problem is the brands don't tell us what additives they include and whether they are beneficial to; older or newer engines, conservative drivers, boy racers, professional drivers, regularly serviced, rarely serviced, short or long journeys etc etc. The additives could be snake oil, literally! As a mechanic it's very difficult to prove that an internal engine fault is the cause of supermarket fuel or the additives supposedly included in premium fuels.

I've known this Astronaut guy for years (very trustworthy), anyway he insists that I don't use supermarket Dilithium Crystals it puts tremendous strain on the Warp Engines.

Cheers Trump!

tesco has followed suite

Asda fuel! New EGR valves all round!

Some really good bargains about since brexit and fuel is coming down in price. Best thing the uk ever did was get out.

I am trying to get excited about this :confused:

fantastic news a step in the right direction

Sainsbury's is the only petrol station near me. Any news on them? I'll probably drive past tomorrow morning anyway

THANK YOU ASDA.
I WAS WORRIED AFTER BREXIT :wink:

This is great - I fill my car up using Tesco Momentum and it's much cheaper than Shell Vpower. My last fuel up went into the £60 mark instead of under £58 so saving a few quid if the price of momentum comes down will be great.

If they all come from the same tanks what about the premium fuels with additives?

taken their time doing this, oil is down 10% over the past few weeks.i expected it to fall further tbh, should be another 2p off.
morrisons by me has not risen above 111.5/113.5 so it's only a 0.8p a litre reduction from asda as far as I'm concerned.

About time for a brexit price war

Ahhh Asda and their famous roll-back prices. They have rolled back 4 weeks.

If you have a high performance diesel then, I recommend you only use with an additive. Fill l's my cars dpf, and also rides rough.

Are you really bothered about the odd quid it's a **** in the ocean supermarket fuel is crap it's was paying the extra for a top quality fuel especially on newer cars your car will thank you and save u in the long run blocked injectors blocked fuel filters it's crap and you'll see better economy I for sure do I'd never go back my car so much quiet and has covered 80000 miles in three years from new without skipping a beat

I work in logistics. Especially around tankers and docks and ur right. It all comes from the same tap

1.159 at my local Tesco. Hope they haven't applied the discount yet. although my local Asda was already 1.129 so getting it tomorrow at 1.10 will be nice.

I just hope BP and shell drop their prices following suit. Its seems a lifetime ago when you could buy fuel at this stations for 101.9p/liter

Great news, fuel prices have been creeping up again for last few months so will be good if they come back down in time for Christmas

I think Sharpharp got out of the wrong side of the forecourt this morning!
Lol
HEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAT!!!!!

Still shocking

I actually found I get better MPG from Momentum over V-Power..but everyone's driving styles and journeys are different I guess. Let's not get into that debate I'm sure it's been covered a million times already! Lol :laughing:

Tesco have cut their prices by a miserly 1p per litre at my local store this afternoon , certainly nothing to get excited about, still more expensive than Morrisons or Sainsbury's in another nearby town.

The git at the Bp garage I have to drive past every night has constantly put up his prices every time the pound dropped a cent against the dollar to 129.9 at present for diesel.I wonder how long before the prices drop back there.Thing is,the forecourt is always full owing to his prime position and couldnt care less company fuel card drivers and lazy motorists.
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And is your car set up to require higher octane fuels? I suspect not as you seem to fill with standard Shell.

If not it will be detonating early, as there's no higher compression ratio to take advantage of the higher octane fuel. Higher octane fuels have no real benefit for a car set to run RON95.

I run my Golf R on Momentum, and have used Shell V-power - they're the same in terms of mpg, smoothness and responsiveness. Both run marginally better on my R than the RON97 alternatives by Esso and BP. Momentum is sold on being full of detergents, it is premium fuel.

I just filled up at Morrisons Cribbs Causeway at 112.7p for diesel, so I guess Morrisons must have either been first or moved quickly to beat their rivals

muppet or corrupt wife of a pedo . i know which one i would choose

How is this a deal? Was a £1 months back and risen ever since.

Ill let you decide. :man:

Hope sainsbury's goes down before Wednesday, it'll go nicely with my 6p off per litre voucher

And what was his reason for not using it?

It's almost like they are running a business and trying to maximize profits or something.
Anyway, you've been proven wrong now so no doubt you won't reply again.

My car is designed to be run on 98 RON but will run ok on 95. I've tried all the fuels and I know Momentum is 99 but I get less miles from it than standard Shell 95. V Power is the best I've tried for smoothness and MPG but I don't often use it due to the cost (normally about 9-10p per litre more). I find Esso Super about the same as Momentum even though it's 97. My car just runs happier on Shell fuel, I think it's how the engine was designed to be run.

I do despair at the great uneducated (lets be charitable and call them the great misinformed) who know a bloke who says he knows about cars, who says that supermarket fuels are bad for your car. Earlier this year I sold my 55 plate 2.0 Focus diesel which I owned from new. I had covered 156,000 miles and the engine didn't miss a beat...... exclusively on Tesco fuel.

If we were told the truth without all bull***t we would all be much better off & not just financially.

E.G.- all moisturizers will re hydrate skin what ever it costs.
Baby oil is much the same as expensive shaving oil.

My old VW TDIs used to run a lot better on Shell than other brands of fuel, but the last one a MK7 GTD didn't seem to like Shell at all and prefer Esso. My Golf R is the first petrol i've had in 15 years.

cold if u care about the world you should cycle to work like me.

I've got a Golf GTI MK5

Oh, do excuse me for not being sat here 24/7 like yourself, I was out doing stuff.
I guess you still don't get it do you, try reading my replies again, or perhaps get someone to translate it into finer laymans terms... Original point still stands and check the number of likes to your comments against mine. nuff said :smile:

thanks for the heads up.

I have done the maths and it works out cheaper leasing a vehicle and not caring what you put in it, than buying outright and putting shell super fuel in it at each fill, leasing all the way for me...............

it's not that good a deal, a few months ago it was 109 :stuck_out_tongue:

Wish it cost the same like it used to be back before they invaded Iraq ...
Yes dnt know but if I took over macds the burger would be cheaper for me and my fam if u know what I mean

meh down few pennies this month then creeps up again, nothing to shout about. maybe if the govt slashes it tax take then we can party

big whoop de doo. the british motorist is getting shafted no matter what the supermarkets/garages charge. in every £1 of litre bought, the **** government take 85.7p of it. so really and truly, of the £1.10p per litre it's going to be, only around 20p is actually divied up between the supermarket/supplier/delivery costs. the government are the crooks here.

Big macs mmmmmm,,,:smirk:

Anyone notice what Costco are charging now?

Just filled up at asda. First thing I see after. This.

BP forever.... the supermarket's petrol station they fill up with real human crap and who knows what else, that's why they are cheap, this is the way you can f##ked up you expensive injectors (for mostly of the cars are expensive ), that's my real true story boys 'n' girls, I paid near thousand pounds to do the job, and the garage said to me they are brand new, after 7 days it had been broken one of them, so after I paid a lot to replace them, they plaing tricky games on me saying they are new, c'mon they was refurbished... obviously it's impossible to prove

Think my local store had dropped about 1p today, so on my £30 per week a massive saving of about 26p for me. Over 1000 degrees already, mad, many deals on this site will save you loads more and barely get into the hundreds, Surely not everyone on this site is high mileage drivers

That is just not true Morrisons have lowered their prices 1st in the last 12 months can't find the thread(s) but here is one from years back that proves you are wrong:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/morrisons-petrol-89-9p-from-friday-267502

I buy a new car every 3 years or so yeah I don't particularly care about the damage it'll do I think driving hard helps anyway but I find better economy on bp fuel by far don't use any others really last tank was Asda cuz was only one near and dramatic mpg decrease and the car just doesn't go so well yes they have to meet standards but what's to say certain fuels don't exceed them

Had an Astra that really didn't like Tesco fuel was misfiring it's Cock off literally had to hold it flat out to get rid of fuel put bp in car runs fine

Have I missed something as my local Sainsbury's has been offering this price for two weeks now

i have a mk5 gti too :smiley:

Bloody hell. I just filled the tank at asda :disappointed:

Love these threads, they always restore my faith in humanity...

Rubbish petrol, my car doesn't feel as responsive compared to Shell. I'm sure it got worse mpg than Shell last time I filled up when it was 99p.

All standard road fuel grades by law have to comply with the standard specifications of petrol and diesel in the UK which are British Standard (BS) versions of European Standards (EN) - BS EN 228 for petrol and BS EN 590 for diesel.
Therefore where ever you buy it wether supermarket, oil major or independent it is the same stuff.

I tend to use Tesco Momentum (I get better mpg) but filled up with ASDA back when it was 99p a litre (couldn't resist) and later that evening the car took 3 or 4 tries to start.
Nothing against ASDA fuel but your cars computer has to get accustomed to the different Octane if you swap.
Plus not everyone has an ASDA nearby so getting there has to be factored in.
Fair play though ASDA do tend to lead the way price wise, I guess they hope you will pop in store and spend.
They are building a petrol Station at Costco Chester Gateswhich for folk nearbywith a Costco card is good news

Yes hopefully by the time a 2nd referendum takes place the country will be in such a MESS ie

If Parliament vote for a second referendum and-

By say February 2017

• the pound is parity with the dollar
• inflation is 4 to 5% (0.3% before referendum)
• fuel prices are at £1.45 to £1.50 a litre
• Banks about to exit the UK
• Boarders with France are
closed - by the French - starting with Calais.
etc etc

it will make "Leave" voters realise their error of judgement, they will see the light and vote "Remain" now that the lies "Remain" horrible Boris, disgusting Farage et al spun are coming to light
#UKaLotWorseofNowSinceReferendum

Agreed. Morrisons fruit is rubbish

I will never use Asda Diesel again. I filled up once and after 90 miles my DPF filter got blocked.I had to get a forced regeneration to fix it that cost me £95. Never has that problem with Shell or BP. The dealership said Asda fuel is not as clean as they had and many complaints about the same thing. If you have a DPF filter then stay away! Sometimes in life if you buy cheap, buy twice!

And you're evidence is.......don't believe everything you read in the national enquirer or twitter

Supermarket fuel is so cheap because it is literally oil straight out the barrel to save on refining costs. They then add some water to make it a bit thinner and you pump it into your car. Supermarkets pay bribes to know when their fuel will be audited and they substitute the cheap stuff for real fuel before the inspector arrives.

These supermarket fuel debate crack me up. I've ran tesco / asda fuel in every car I've had over the last 18 years ranging from old bangers to straight off the forecort with only 30 miles on the clock. Never had a single issue with the engine or fuel lines. MPG always seems there or there abouts. I don't run any cleaners in the tank and generally abuse my cars.

Not sure if still the case but tesco fuel was always just esso the exact same stuff you would get at an esso garage and sainsburys bought their fuel from BP, not sure with morrisons or asda but I always fill up at asda for convenience as it's practically next door and have done for 15 years with a range of different cars and I have never once developed a single problem that could be attributed to the choice of fuel.

Don't know why fuel reductions are so hot - The overall saving on a full tank of fuel is the equivalent of a packet of peanuts ... in fact, if you fuel up your tank, and buy nuts, you probably haven't even saved enough money to get the bag of nuts free.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not turning my nose up at the saving, I get mine from Costco because it's local and already 109.9p, but that doesn't even go up as an offer, because it just is what it is.

The price drops always go hot but not a peep when they put the price up?
They want to get, for instance, 4p/l so they increase it by 6p, a fortnight later they drop it by 2p and lo and behold they are the all conquering hero.

Please explain why he is a muppet?

If I grab women somewhere I get on a sex offenders register. If you're a billionaire businessman you're praised and elected president. He's repeatedly admitted to buying political influence with his wealth so he can make more money. Now he doesn't need to pay for that influence and will wreck the country, and probably send shockwaves around the world - if he doesn't launch nukes first..

Fuel in the UK is a ridiculous price I was in US on holiday this summer and petrol was $1.78 per gallon about £1.30 :disappointed:

I get the fraction and the sailing ship, but why were you a goat?

Deliberate small price increases over significant periods, then offer a small reduction marketed heavily as a price war. We eat it up and don't blink an eye.

He's speculating then. There aren't any studies to back this up. I use Asda/Tesco in my car and it has absolutely no problems. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones... :wink:

is esso tesco (i.e. garage with a small shopping supermarket) the same as normal esso? as i have a local one

not surprised, asda's fuel is basically water. Anyone whose worked at a fuel station knows what I'm talking about.

Whatever... his word's good enough for me

I always wonder how many people choose their supermarket based on this rubbish.

Yeah, you save ~£1.70 on the tank. But surely the easier place to make savings is the ~£100 weekly food shop you're about to do?

It just seems so easy £1.70 a week elsewhere, I don't know why people get so excited about petrol prices.

Same price at morrisons ,as from close of business last night

i always seem to get the best MPG out of BP Fuel. I think this is all in my head though!

Move to Lincoln and can guarantee you'll pay 3p less than the national average anytime of the year

Morrisons this morning was 1.10 for petrol

Don't forget the bonus your get when filling up at Tesco, not only do you save 3p a litre approx. £1.70, but you also get Tesco Club card points. I'm going wait for the big drop at Sainsbury's hopefully they follow suit at end of the week, so I get my Nectar card bonus points on fuel. Bingo we have a winner!! get those Fuel Petrol prices a dropping now!!

It's useful to some people, of course it is. But 95% of people don't drive for a living and it always gets way over 1000 degrees heat.

Should never have gone over 99p a litre, we are being robbed blind.

Check the price of oil now against what it was when we were last paying under £1/litre

I have a 16 plate car . I bought it in April and before that I had an 02 plate vehicle .I do get my fuel at the supermarkets and the the 02 plate and 16 plate have literally been all over the country ,Europe and judging by a previous comment will soon be used to go into outer space. Not 1 time in all the years with the 02 car did I have any issues with the fuel I was putting in and never once did a garage say "dont use the fuel from supermarkets it will cause you problems in the long run " Well since passing my test in 1997 I can say in the long run the problems that are supposed to have arose haven't even raised there ugly mushes . I suspect your a fuel station tart , for example BP 118.9 for example would BP drop there prices if overnight there fuel station tarts said "FCUK this I'm off somewhere else" the answer is YES !!! It's a load Tommy Tit when we get preached you shouldn't put poor quality in your tank . Fuel is Fuel and the best part for me is I get it for free .

Since when is £1.10 for fuel a good deal? its sad that we now see this as a bargain price and just accept the fact we are being taken for a ride by petrol companies. Quick to raise their prices when price of fuel goes up but takes months for it to drop when the cost goes down and by the time it does hit the pumps it goes back up again. Saw one station few days ago £1.14, the next day £1.17, then the day after £1.15.......... think they just wake up and pull the prices out the air. lol.

Cold. Why? According to this in January, the price for a litre of Petrol was under a £1. The UK pays more tax on petrol than any other country in Europe. Weird how people think that's a "hot" deal.

I filled up about a week ago at Asda and it was 109.7?.... am I missing somat?

Tesco in Dunstable hadn't dropped theirs by 1030PM last night so interesting to see if they have today. Sainsbury's letchworth went down 1p. Wish they could be consistent as if they were the oil giants would take notice

well done you asda it's all a big con, the price has been creeping up for weeks so it's just to get people to shop there as it's near Christmas
Cold.

Still think its false advertising that its in Litres when we all think MPG
It is displayed as price per US Gallons in America.
I'm sure it was Gallons in the 70s here (not 100%)

but big con by Oil companies

Its like if all prices in supermarkets were net of VAT

Should say price £5.03 on forecourt.

cold, diesel 0.79 euros in Tenerife last week , but its a bit of a long trip to fill up though !! :smirk:

T*t

You know those cheaper gas and electricity sellers that you can switch to? Well their electricity doesn't work as well as proper electricity, lights are less bright and my kettle takes longer to boil.

My mate who is an electrician told me it's because they use low quality copper in the cables.

For me supermarket fuel clogs up the fuel filter faster than fuel from one of the big petroleum retailers. I used to use the supermarker fuels a lot, as it was convenient and cheaper. But 2000 miles after a full service was undertaken, the fuel filter was muggy/dirty again. Not just a bit but A LOT. Probably due to additives the supermarkets put in their fuel for the winter months between September - March. Apparently its a different additive used compared to what the big fuel retailers use. To combat the crap additive to prolong the life of your injectors, dpf, fuel filters, you'd need to add your own additive which is about £20, so defeats the point of buying the cheaper supermarket fuel anyway.

IMO if you actually own your car and its quite expensive and/or if you plan to keep it for a number of years, then avoid supermarket fuels.

If you have a cheap car, or that you don't own (lease/company/hire/rental) or only plan to own it for a year or 2, then just use the cheaper supermarket fuels.

Just my opinion... each to their own.

I have used supermarket fuel for 20 + years - never had a problem which could be blamed on fuel quality-
I bet the most people have no idea what oil there mechanic has put in the engine or drive 20000 miles between services and then as soon as they have a problem blame it on the fuel as that's the part they see!

the £ is down 2 cents against the $ compared to 2 months ago.
I'm certain there's plenty of scope for another 2p cut next week

Shame my nearest Asda petrol is 15 miles away. :disappointed:

5th gear tests supermarket petrol vs premium :smiley:
https://youtu.be/WTaBngvsPrc

this is true oil is purchased in dollars so the stronger the pound the cheap the fuel at the pumps should be

Paying a bit more for fuel is a small price to pay to be rid of that corrupt and failing club.

simples its standard unleaded v super unleaded. super unleaded has a higher octane valve.
i can guarantee you that bp esso asda tesco shell and so on standard unleaded comes from the same tank at the refinery .same goes for super unleaded but some add a extra additive at the stations to super unleaded .where i work supply's them all

oil prices have risen in the last 6 months from a $27 low to $46 today ($50 two weeks ago) and the pound is weak so the prices haven't risen to much realy and nothing to do with brexit

Erm, correct me if im wrong, but i did not mention where the additives were added?. And what point are you making?. Not quite following. I think we all know the additives were not added in isle 36 next to the fruit and veg.

Of course additives are added at the refinery, with request from the supermarkets.

What exactly is your point? other than trolling.

If you know more, then tell us.

Lawnmower?

The additives are added to the tanker when it leaves the refinery as far as I was aware - they actual stuff coming out of the refinery and into the tanker is identical

I doubt it, how would the additives thoroughly mix inside the tanker?. I would imagine the fuel would be transfered from the main central refinery to each customer allocated location and then the additives added as per request from each customer. From there then transferred to the tanker. At a complete guess anyway.

Anyway, the point is, supermarkets use different additives then those that BP/SHELL..etc use. Thats been proven already. The supermarkets probably use more additives, thus bringing the price down a little bit. Those additives are a lot harsher than others.

I have been using shell V-power in my car for the last 500 miles, i will do another 1500 miles using this fuel and only this fuel and then i will check the condition of my fuel filter again.

What the hell happened to diesel costing the same as petrol? There's more diesel cars than ever and you get more diesel than petrol per barrel of crude oil. Big companies always shafting us....

In general, if a fuel mix containing additives is being loaded then the additives are injected at the same time as the base fuel is being loaded into the tanker.
I believe Costco add theirs locally

Shame ASDA dont seem to do a super unleaded Tesco equivalent.
I go for the premium as I get better mpg - 11 year old car - drives like the day I got it from Nissan dealer.

I guess the yellow band 'jet fuel' is also oiled fired central heating, the cost has sky rocketed again this year :disappointed:

My mate drives a tractor delivering fruit and veg to Tesco, Morrison and Sainsbury & he said it all comes from the same trailers.

:stuck_out_tongue:

Apology for being wrong accepted!

Lol, let me guess, you're her sister :laughing:

First random 'troll' accusation............people always come out with it when you just don't understand

To avoid any problems, why don't people who think supermarket fuel is inferior simply avoid using it, and people who think there is no difference continue using it, and then both sides will be happy?

Oil seems to be in a trading range between $40 & $50, it's easy to make money from oil with etfs. The extra money can then help fill up your car.

End of the day , I have clocked both as I have my own business and it is true I did get a few more miles from BP etc!
The worse being Morrison of the supermarket list,

As previously stated, car owned from new, now 11 years old, 156,000, miles, supermarket fuel used 99% of the time.....absolutely no problems and saved about £700 over the life of the car compared with using non-supermarket fuel.

Me: owned from new, now 11 years old, 145,000, miles, supermarket fuel used 99% of the time.....absolutely no problems and saved about £700 over the life of the car compared with using non-supermarket fuel.

Snap!

Morrisons never does anything first - they are just like most of their shoppers - old and slow :smile:

You'll be their yourself one day, no one escapes ageing, best not to mock! :smile:

am also a mechanic and fuel from supermarkets is the same as shell, esso, bp alot off supermarkets buy from who ever is selling the cheapest thats why if in tesco you will see its esso who deliver, shell deliver from shell and so on, and if you live near an oil refinery you will see they all come from the same place and go to the fore courts, people saying i put shell in my car now running better is all in your head, PMSL you keep paying for dearer fuel give these people the extra cash that you can save for extra fuel

Im happy for you.

In MY experience, the fuel filter has a film of dirt all over it after x amount of miles using supermarket fuel. Whether that causes a problem or not i do not know. Maybe lose 1mpg? i don't know the answer to that one. All i know is, after less than 2000 miles your fuel filter should not be dirty like mine was. I service my cars myself using high quality parts only, and actually checking the fuel filter just 2000 miles after a service was pure fluke as i was looking for another issue with the car. I guess all i can say is, i will check the new fuel filter after 2000 miles and take pictures of that too and do a comparison with the condition of the fuel filter using supermarket fuel and not using supermarket fuel. However i have NOT been using supermarket fuel during the winter months when they add additives, and i WILL be using non supermarket fuel during these months. So in theory the non supermarket fuel should be a lot more dirty.

Understand what?. His comment was based on the fact that he thought i said asda add the additives when the fuel arrives at asda. I did not say this AT ALL. Read again.

Some times trolls, troll for a reason, one reason might be just to bump their post count with pointless posts. Yes people do take forums and the internet that serious :wink:

​He's dead Jim, but not as we know it!

Could have just been a fuel filter from a poor/bad batch. I understand your situation but your dirty filter could be down to a whole host of reasons. Maybe your intake has carbon build up, your fuel lines have debris, your tank may have debris. Your one dirty fuel filter isn't conclusive evidence as to super market fuels being the cause.

Id rather have the wife of a former president who served two terms.

You forget that fuel companies pay in advance so you don't know whether they bought at the higher or lower price for the fuel you are buying today. Although in Spain prices do reflect the daily commodities prices and went down 6 cents on Sunday from Saturdays price, equivalent to 5p. I believe your Asda deal is only worth a 3p saving.

Yep its in the sixties not late eighties % cut
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-rail-transport/10668970/British-fuel-tax-highest-in-Europe.html

Why are you posting a 2 and a half year old story?

I bet you're the type to test the rev limiter on rental cars :man:

And finding out what it's like to change gear without using the clutch :wink:

Just regarding premium fuels, I'm friends with someone who works in a fairly senior job at Shell on the chemical side of things. He insisted that all his family use VPower fuels in their cars as from a chemical standpoint there are very significant long term benefits. Given his role I can only assume he knew what was best for them. He also advised that the very premium fuels (102RON etc) were to be avoided as long term they weren't great. I trust him, he's got qualifcations coming out of his ears, so use VPower in my families cars, they all run better with it.

If he's got qualifications coming out of his ears do you have to shout to make yourself heard when you talk to him?

I doubt whether goverment % has changed that much I did say 60 to 69% if you read my post

As I said.............

Where did you say 60 to 69%?

sixties = 60 to 69.

Yes I agree but putting numerals rather than spelling would have given more clarity and less misunderstanding.

But Momentum isn't designed to extend MPG, Its designed to have a higher resistance to knock than other fuels due to the higher octane rating, It has nothing to do with MPG!

Actually, the Morrisons near me was at this price before this was announced.

I get better mpg with Momentum on my from new 11 year old Nissan - 145,000 miles.
I have used the excellent iPhone MPGCalc app for 22 months

So why didn't you post? :wink:

The U.K. has NEVER reaped any rewards of E.U. membership in unified taxation including alcohol & tobacco.
We shoud be able to buy a bottle of wine or a pint for 1 euro like France & Spain.

Higher octane fuels should give better MPG than lower octane fuels. Momentum is popular as it is a cheap option "premium" fuel, but in my experience it is not as good as other "premium" fuels I have tried. Your mileage may vary.

I was always punctual

Perhaps you would like to tell me where you can get a pint of beer for one euro that is not a happy hour deal. The nearest you will get in a British owned pub is 0ne euro fifty that is advertised as a pint but is served in a 400ml glass. the usual price in a Spanish pub is in the region of two euro fifty in a large glass, again 400ml and usually never filled to the brim. Still cheaper than the UK but they only have a 4p duty tax on beer and no duty tax on wine. Comparing one countries prices with another's it not correct unless you factor in these taxes, plus building and wages are significantly lower and you don't have the conglomerates owning chains of pubs as in the UK.

But really, who cares?

I was wondering way my local Asda had put prices up over the last couple of weeks... Their usual trick PR trick to get "good" press by "cutting" prices back to what they were before.....

Go check the likes, plenty of people do :wink:

As per usual though the oil giant garages seem to be dragging their feet even still with dropping prices.. am still seeing petrol and diesel between £1.16-£1.19.. neither fuel should be above £1.14/£1.15 really and some still price diesel 3p more than petrol. Luckily I'm not a diesel driver although it would help sometimes due to mileage I drive

yeah 0.3p off, great deal really worth almost 2k heat

why does these non deals always go so hot, you could save more turning off your aircon.

I would give some one a medal if they have even managed to save £1 on a tank of fuel through these 'price cuts'

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sod all this additives malarky your all mising the point,supermarket fuel doesnt have the lovely petrolly smell you get in a typical petrol station

Thanks OP, Will have to have a look next time I fill up.

Problem is my car only holds 9 Litres of Petrol and that last's me about 3 months or 3000 miles on average ;-)

copied from your post
Probably due to additives the supermarkets put in their fuel for the winter months between September - March.
all brand of fuel has the same additive put in at the refinery for winter.
stand corrected

Heat added for Supermarket fuel, BP and Shell shame on you charging the prices you do

Yes I had, but the point I was trying to make is that (as you may be aware) its a old supermarket marketing trick to raise the price of something then a few weeks later lower it back as a special offer. In this case the price of my local Adsa had gone up yet the other local petrol stations were staying the same as before. (other than the local bp which just appears to look for the highest local price and rolls a dice for how much extra pence to add ) So while I voted hot as if you live some place in the country where fuel costs a lot like rural Wales and there is not much choice in stations (or have to travel there like I do!) having Asda have a fixed low price for the entire country rather than fix prices locally is great. But for me locally Adsa is just going back to matching the other stations having raised its prices for a few weeks and this cut appears to be just marketing...... If I remember correctly one of the other Supermarkets put their prices up for 2 weeks then dropped them again earlier on in the year as "cutting fuel prices to help their customers..." I guess I'm getting more cynical in my old age...... :wink:

Yep I'm in rural North Wales so ASDA Queensferry is a 8 mile drive.
My car is thirsty at 25p a mile (I know but its a rare luxury) so to go to ASDA is £2.00 there £2.00 back.
Also I tend to use Tesco Momentum and ASDA only sell the standard petrol.

Well what you say is not true of the Luton and Dunstable area and I get regular updates from petrol prices dot com.

Cuckoo..!!

Scott and all others that remember the good old days when fuel for your car had no additives and no standard too comply with never had these problems of additives and were shall I buy from, we just went for the cheapest even if we had to go for 2 or 3 miles as the differences then made it worth while.
What I am trying to say is that if you use supermarket fuel, as it has to comply with a set standard in it's base requirements it won't do your vehicle any harm over Shell, BP or Esso but the latter will look after your engine better over a product with unknown additives if it has any.
Myself I use an unattended/pay machine site that sells at 10 to 11p lower than surrounding forecourts with a full tank blast of super duper every so often.

Diesel is 89c in Gran Canaria!

Morrisons unleaded down to 109.7 today.

move closer save the world

I'll move us closer to my work and my wife will have the 40 mile commute to hers. Genius!

Why does Esso have a RON97 premium fuel and Tesco has Momentum RON99? Seems odd Esso would allow Tesco to be supplied a better fuel than the Esso branded equivalent. Tesco have a deal to run Tesco express stores from Esso forecourts, but not sure that ensures fuel exclusivity for wholly Tesco branded forecourts you find at large Tesco stores.

Higher octane fuels give higher mpg in cars tuned to run on higher octane fuel than would be seen if running with RON95 fuel. If they are put into cars designed to run with RON95, the extra gains of further compressibility (with higher expansion on ignition) without pinking in a car with a higher compression ratio will not be realised.

Putting RON95 fuel in a car designed to run optimally on RON98 fuel is a false economy because the car won't be running at its best.

Putting RON98 fuel in a car designed to run optimally on RON95 fuel is a false economy because the fuel will give no gains when it is ignited under a lower compression ratio than would be optimal. In the same vein, sticking RON102 in a car designed to run on RON98 will also be false economy.

Some people using premium fuel will see gains purely from the higher concentration of detergents usually present - both V-power and Momentum market the fact that they are rich in detergents to keep the fuel system clean for a cleaner and more efficient burn.

You need to live within walking distance of a Sam Smiths pub - £1.97 a pint for "Taddy" lager 4.5% brewed to a German recipe, the ales are about £1.65 a pint (a full pint, not 400ml). Who needs to go to Spain to get a bargain? You just need to switch pubs.

Sorry monkey that last bit should have stated " I have seen branded fuel tankers told to leave the forecourt "

Rubbish indeed - a diesel car would have to be burning the fuel in a terrible way to 80% load a DPF capable of holding 140g (typical capacity) of soot from driving 90 miles.

Assuming 45mpg and 2 gallons used, that's 7.55kg of fuel, of which 6.49kg is carbon. Almost 2% of the diesel burnt would have to end up as carbon soot with none of it burnt off during those 90 miles. No chance.

The one euro quote was enough to tell you I wasn't talking about in the UK.

I got that, just demonstrating that a reasonably priced pint can be had in the UK, despite higher taxes than Spain. I visit Prague usually once a year and even there you can see how the price of booze has steadily crept up. 5 years ago you could easily find a 40p pint, now you have to look hard to get one for less than a pound. The Czech republic government is under ever increasing pressure to raise its prices on booze and tobacco products to that of other EU member states. The EU is a cartel.

quit her job

A good point!

I think they meant ... it sells faster at the pumps ... cos its cheaper ... so you need to get in quick ...:wink:

Most posters on here would actually save more by not accelerating so fast - and then braking heavily at the next red light, on the next bend, or to avoid the bumper of the car they are too close to.
How many are actually skilled enough at driving to reduce the use and need of braking to a minimum ? - that will save you fuel and money

And have her burning more fossil fuels by having the house heated during the day when we would've both been at work but she's in the house watching daytime TV.

I applaud you if you don't have any electric or fossil fuel burning cars in your household, don't rely on taxis, automotive deliveries of any kind and don't jump on the plane when you go on holiday. I can only think of one person who qualifies.

Its not about stopping completely its about cutting down

Haven't seen anything to suggest that was your point in any of your previous posts, just very daft advice.

So what is cutting down? I used to have a 60 mile commute, and now it's 40, so in a way I have cut down.

In other aspects of my life I minimise power usage - LED bulbs everywhere in the house, a good standard of insulation and modern appliances with very low energy consumption.

If my commute was under 10 miles I would cycle on all but the worst days when it is light coming to work and getting home.

Does anybody have any experience using premium fuels in a Mazda 3 2.0 Skyactiv-G? So far I have tried standard Tesco, Tesco Momentum, standard Esso, Esso Supreme and standard Shell. I was surprised to see the average MPG climbing quite quickly a little while after I tried Esso Supreme, even on local (e.g non motorway) journeys. The car also felt a bit more lively. I haven't yet tried Shell V-Power.

I never used any premium fuels in my previous car (Ford Fiesta Zetec S Ecoboost) but that one definitely had a bit more "go" using standard Shell compared to Tesco.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/morrisons-petrol-cut-a-maximum-price-109-9-also-receive-a-10ppl-voucher-off-fuel-2550834

Look like you were right.... Not!

They've done much better.

Yes that's because I brought their attention to this thread and the damage to their reputation.
So instead of trying to show off, bow down and show some respect pion

Very difficult in real terms to do this. Always some idiot behind who wants to go through the corner at 70. When there's no-one around I can do an entire hour journey only braking at junctions

Most people can't even manage to go a couple of miles on the motorway without tapping their brakes every 20 seconds, forget anything more complicated!

In an ideal world, new drivers would be limited to low powered engines (as with e.g new motorbike riders) until they have passed a further test, e.g IAM or RoSPA, where they teach you proper car control.

Why does the car behind you, make you drive at a non-sensible speed ? I don't understand

Perhaps because you don't want them to hit you? We've all had that Audi up our backside.

What ? You don't want them to hit you so you speed up ? If they come closer you speed up again ? Wow - at what point / excess speed do you decide you are "safe" - they are not going to hit you from behind - on those bends at 70mph where you need to brake more heavily ? :confused:

Well done for taking it to ridiculous extremes.

I think the point is that sometimes, you are cautious about slowing down because some idiot is driving far too close (and potentially distracted with their mobile these days). At least on the motorway you can change lanes.

Oh I see your point now - so you drive faster than if there wasn't a car close behind you - in case the person behind is on a mobile phone - wow.

And this is the point where I stop responding to your idiocy.

Oh damn ! - for a minute there I thought you were saying you were going to stop driving and making us all a bit safer on the roads. Oh well never mind.

Yep - you'd best quit while you're not ahead - the idiocy bit, is your description of how you say you drive on the roads, worryingly...

I've actually said nothing about how I drive on the road except that having an Audi up my backside isn't desirable and would lead me to be cautious about if, when and how I slow down. Driving without taking into account what the car behind you is doing or may do is not a good idea at all. It's preferable to let the idiot driver behind you get ahead whenever you can.

My licence is clean, I've no insurance claims and I've passed the IAM advanced driving test. I'm also a motorbike rider, which gives me a good reason to be very concerned with what every car around me is doing.

No you are wrong. I asked Taz1529 "Why does the car behind you, make you drive at a non-sensible speed ?" you decided to answer " ... because you don't want them to hit you? " -an odd driving strategy - drive faster than you normally would because there is an idiot behind and then you advocate " let the idiot driver behind you get ahead whenever you can. " Is all that from the IAM advanced driving course ?

You really have a bee in your bonnet over this one don't you? I put forward "perhaps because you don't want them to hit you" as one possible explanation. I then later elaborated on that. You even seem to have an issue with the *fact* that it's better to have the idiot driver in front rather than behind you?

Let's take an example. You're going along an A road at 60mph, while being tailgated. You see a 40mph speed limit approaching (or even worse, the sign is hidden as it's overgrown - leading to less time to react) and you think to yourself, this guy behind is right up my backside, if I slow down too suddenly now, what is he going to do? (assuming you actually check what is happening behind you before you slow, as you should - it seems that you probably would not!). So you then go past the 40 sign at a higher speed than you should, perhaps having just taken your foot off the accelerator to slow down gently, rather than using the brakes. Meanwhile you're looking for a lay-by up ahead to pull over and let him past. You can then carry on your journey without him behind you.

I'm not saying that this necessarily happens often (although the nature of hazards when driving is changing due to things like being distracted by Facebook), or that you wouldn't still get a speeding ticket if there is a speed camera or van at that location but I would argue it's probably safer driving as who knows what will happen if you did get hit from behind (and safer driving usually implies not having or increasing the risk of a collision).

An alternative might be to just tap your brake pedal so your brake lights flash on but not enough to actually slow down initially, which will hopefully prompt the driver behind to drop back then giving you room to actually slow down.

111p for diesel at tesco stafford

£1.11 for diesel and £1.09 for petrol at ASDA Elgin for past week, filled up today. The ESSO round the corner was £1.18 and £1.16 so I saved almost £3 on the full £45 tank.

​morrisons have already done it. and if you spend £50 on a shop fuel is then 99p a litre

You are so late coming with that information that the voucher offer for Morrisons ( notice the upper case ) has finished, so not available to any new customers.

Love the experts who say supermarket fuel is no good. Our local BP garage loves them even more as they charge 10p a litre more for petrol than our local Asda.

I don't claim to be an expert but my Mazda 3 2.0 Skyactiv-G returns better milage with Esso Supreme than with standard Esso, Standard Tesco or Tesco Momentum 99. I haven't tried Shell in it yet because it's too far away.

And this is not in my head - I actually see the range increasing as I drive, on a journey that I do all the time.

So just because it doesn't make a difference in your car, doesn't mean that is true of everybody.

Not sure I follow the logic in that post. I would think your local BP would love it if Asda was not there and they could charge 15p a litre more as no competition. Could some one please explain if they can work out 991145's post?

I think he is saying that BP love it when people believe supermarket fuel is crap.

T-t x2

What a charmer eh ? Bet he's got a lovely big d... though-- attached to his head

Probably no bigger than yours which is unusual in a girl or are you Bi.

??? Just a woman not "a girl" ( as you patronisingly put it ) commenting on the macho selfish boorish behaviour of some men in cars-- is that ok ?

Been 109.7/111.7 here for 2 weeks at asda and morrisons, with tesco at 109.9/111.9
Morrisons were also giving 10p per litre off vouchers with shopping too about a week ago, making it below £1 for unleaded.

I love how these deals turn into a big arguement

:man:

Thanks for the update on this 2 week and 4 day old post that had mentions of the Morrison deal over the last 2 weeks.

Its been this price for the last week ??? Where's the deal

Asda to cut fuel to 110.7p for unleaded and 112.7p for Diesel
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Found 2 weeks, 6 days ago

Fill up yer tanks. Prices are now rising rapidly.