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Spread the word - don't keep it to yourself
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morgie
1 Nov 16
Here it is, Amex Shop Small UK, officially back for 2016.....

Save the offer to your cards now, and then spend between 03/12 to 18/12.

SHOP SMALL - Spend £10 or more, get £5 back

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Save to Card to get a £5 statement credit when you spend £10+ in-store at participating small businesses between 3 December and 18 December 2016. Valid once per Card per business. Terms and payment restrictions apply.

For Amex cards issued by other banks and supplementary cards, enrol via https://offerenroll.americanexpress.com/enroll/EnrollmentSitePage?offer=99313ShopSmall Credit to amz84uk. See note on TSB card below...

TSB Amex card holders note that the email received when registering my Amex cards does state in the small print - "Offer is not valid for TSB American Express Cards", so not sounding great there!

Shop Small Map - http://amexshopsmall.co.uk/map/
Top comments
Chanchi32
1 Nov 16 9 #2
Praise Amex shop small and Morgie

I've been running low on stamps

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morgie
1 Nov 16 6 #1
Shop Small Map - http://amexshopsmall.co.uk/map/

For Amex cards issued by other banks and supplementary cards, enrol via https://offerenroll.americanexpress.com/enroll/EnrollmentSitePage?offer=99313ShopSmall Credit to amz84uk for the link.

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dodgymix
1 Nov 16 5 #39
that's called Fraud
dodgymix
1 Nov 16 5 #14
Just a shame half the shops refuse to accept AMEX even though they are registered to accept it

no end of grief leaving piles of stuff on the counters when they refused to accept it
All comments (341)
morgie
1 Nov 16 6 #1
Shop Small Map - http://amexshopsmall.co.uk/map/

For Amex cards issued by other banks and supplementary cards, enrol via https://offerenroll.americanexpress.com/enroll/EnrollmentSitePage?offer=99313ShopSmall Credit to amz84uk for the link.

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http://f.email.amexnetwork.com/i/42/2078309288/Thank_you_for_enrolling_trigger_268907_banner-main.gif

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Chanchi32
1 Nov 16 9 #2
Praise Amex shop small and Morgie

I've been running low on stamps

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morgie to Chanchi32
1 Nov 16 3 #3
...and BackInStock has been running low on hope and booze....so it's all good!

BackInStock - please share your map and plan of the most economical route to visit every OneStop in the UK in 2 weeks - cheers.
juggler1
1 Nov 16 #4
Thank you! Saved to card
azreal123
1 Nov 16 #5
is it too late to apply for a card ? what card is free ?
backinstock
1 Nov 16 1 #6
Thank you and looks like no changes from last year.
Last year, you could use your card in multiple One stop shops as they are all classed as individual business. As long as they are on the map and registered, then OK. Good for Chanchi's stamps, as some sell them in books over the counter. They also usually have some good deals on, like chocolates, wine, whisky etc.
Also it says giftcards and vouchers aren't applicable, last year I ate out for ages and ages with restaurant giftcards and vouchers. Some local butchers also sell gift vouchers, generally valid for 6 months.

Right, off to write my list, on the back of a roll of lining paper and taking my bargain hunting suite to the cleaners, ready for the fun.
backinstock
1 Nov 16 3 #7
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/13/5b/5e/135b5e9b74e8b33e11a3d534545385da.jpg

Thank you Amex.
Will you marry me?
kooks65
1 Nov 16 #8
Not on my Virgin Amex yet, hoping it comes on soon as there's some places I go to regularly :smiley:
morgie to kooks65
1 Nov 16 1 #34





See OP now (or post above from amz84uk) for direct link to enrol cards.
windym
1 Nov 16 1 #9
Thank you. Saved on my Gold, BA Premium Plus Amex and as supplementary on hubby's BA Premium Plus Amex. Hubby has the same cards and is supplementary on mine. Saved x 6.
pototea
1 Nov 16 #10
Love this offer!
tek-monkey
1 Nov 16 #11
Have a barclays Amex somewhere, never been used!
stevenhp1987
1 Nov 16 2 #12
Always love the shop small scheme! I remember a few years ago when it was spend £5 get £5 back, we ate out every day splitting the bill!

Doesn't seem as many places near me on it this year as before but will make for a good few nights out :smiley:
Mermoo
1 Nov 16 1 #13
Saved to my Costco Amex - much appreciated :smiley:
dodgymix
1 Nov 16 5 #14
Just a shame half the shops refuse to accept AMEX even though they are registered to accept it

no end of grief leaving piles of stuff on the counters when they refused to accept it
morgie to dodgymix
1 Nov 16 3 #17
Just ask first? If they say no but are on the map send Amex a message via your account to complain and in my experience they'll credit you £5.
nictry to dodgymix
1 Nov 16 1 #28
I agree, just checked shops local to me on the offer and at least 4 out of the first 10 I see on the list I use regularly and none of which accept Amex despite me asking on more than one occasion?? Something a bit odd there!
eatmorefish to dodgymix
1 Nov 16 #38
You really have no idea how much American Express take from each sale, do you?
BigPlonker
1 Nov 16 #15
None of my local OneStops are appearing on the map.
morgie to BigPlonker
1 Nov 16 #18

Yeah, not looking good for them :disappointed:
neas1983
1 Nov 16 #16
can't see one stop on shop small map
tinkerbellian
1 Nov 16 3 #19
Second this, happened to me last year, AMEX cust service tends to be fairly amazing.
rheumatoid
1 Nov 16 #20
My wife has a supplementary card but doesn't get these benefits. Do I have to register her online separately somehow. I don't see how to just add her card in my account.
davidrbutcher
1 Nov 16 #21
How do I register supplementary cards?
SingingDwarf to davidrbutcher
1 Nov 16 1 #31
Register for a separate online Amex account and register the supplementary card.
NB supplementary card holders only see spending on their card, so no worries about those little 'extra' purchases being spotted ;-)
neshah
1 Nov 16 #22
great any plans to maximise earnings for central london and oyster cards topups greatly appreciated
Super74
1 Nov 16 #23
Can someone please tell me how to add small shop to Barclaycards Amex?
morgie to Super74
1 Nov 16 #27
No link yet.
johnb667
1 Nov 16 #24
How does the supplementary card thing work with this
starbidder
1 Nov 16 #25
Possibly because OneStop are owned by TESCO and don't fit into the "small independent category". Just a thought :neutral_face:
morgie
1 Nov 16 2 #26
They have been since ~2003 and fitted in rather well in years past :smile:
morgie
1 Nov 16 2 #29
Expect to see a degree of change in shops listed between now and the event, as some are removed and some new join. If those ones are still listed on 3rd December, then see my post above - drop a complaint to Amex and they'll likely credit you £5 for each one.
REMUS77
1 Nov 16 #30
Thank you!
amz84uk
1 Nov 16 2 #32
morgie to amz84uk
1 Nov 16 #33
Excellent, thanks. Will update the OP.
kooks65
1 Nov 16 1 #35
Thanks done both my Black and White Virgin Flying Club cards :smiley:
zippypants
1 Nov 16 #36
Excellent heated
VivaTibet
1 Nov 16 #37
Looking at the map is it only the large teardrops with numbers that have this deal or is it any shop even the little dots?
dodgymix
1 Nov 16 5 #39
that's called Fraud
dodgymix
1 Nov 16 #40
fully aware that AMEX are much more expensive than mastercard / visa and take longer to pay although if a shop signs up to AMEX.. they could at least accept it
backinstock
1 Nov 16 2 #41
The map can be a bit of a Joke and I've just checked three places that don't take Amex and didn't last year and they are still showing. I had credits for two last year as I visited them, but never claimed for the third as I phoned and asked first. I was hoping the map would be more accurate this year.
Some merchants don't show, but are still valid as I found out last year. An independent butchers for example. Worth making one test purchase if you need anything and see if you get the confirmation email. You can then max up with other cards.
One Stop isn't showing (yet) sadly, but I'll still try one out and see what happens. I did (ab)use them quite a bit last year though.
My target is 50 purchases this year (minimum), but I did hit 70+ last year (over three cards). One Stop shops did help though!
sach1636
1 Nov 16 #42
3% max.
juggler1
1 Nov 16 1 #43
Amex Cashback Ninja
spock1958
1 Nov 16 #44
I visited the Chinese Buffet in Wigan last year and was told on paying the bill that they don't accept Amex. I was on the phone to Amex immediately after, and £5 was promptly credited to my account.

I've noticed that this year my DENTIST is on the list. That's rather weird really.
juggler1
1 Nov 16 #45
Yes, I saw the dentist on too :smiley: random things, vets. Still looking for a dry cleaners. Pls let me know if you spot one
am4r1e
1 Nov 16 1 #46
Legend thank you
yannarascala
1 Nov 16 #47
This is HotUKDeals and this is a hot UK deal
benlondon
1 Nov 16 #48
​Wow, so you would actually sign up to an Amex card just for £5?!?!?!?!
gocat
1 Nov 16 4 #49
Valid once per Card per business, so can get lots of £5's unless Ive read it wrong
backinstock
1 Nov 16 2 #50
Just for £5 per purchase from many, many small shops.
Along with other Amex promotions throughout the year.
Well worth it.
DaveHemm
1 Nov 16 1 #51
​They are a horrible card to accept, when I first dealt with them (directly) they took 5% of sale. Reconciling was a major pain, rather than get charged a fee at the end of a month they would take the fee from each transaction so nothing tallied. Each time we change card provider Amex is added on despite us saying we don't want it and have to force supplier to remove them from our machine.
When we cancelled Amex, I told them why and they offered to reduce our fees to just over 1% - that galvanised me to definitely cancel as they had just been lining their pockets with our money.
kemps
1 Nov 16 #52
nice find op
vtec17
1 Nov 16 #53
Couple of CEX stores I noticed on the map.
Normally I got for oyster top up. I end up wth £90 worth for £45.
Super74
1 Nov 16 #54
Is the Amex Small Shop offer available to load to any Amex issued cards? Like the Nectar,Costco and basic Amex credit card?
I'd love to apply for another card just to use for Small Shop.
paul.jacobs
1 Nov 16 #55
Waste of time, went in a few shops last year and they were on the list, but didn't take AMEX
luvsadealdealdeal
1 Nov 16 1 #56
that means Amex give you a free fiver for not shopping
luvsadealdealdeal
1 Nov 16 #57
pls read thread
Super74
1 Nov 16 #58
I understand it's available to load to a Costco card but not sure about the Nectar Amex?
morgie
2 Nov 16 #59
Just see deal post for a link to enrol your cards via.
stevenhp1987
2 Nov 16 #60
It's available for all American Express cards except Corporate & TSB issued ones.

Amex-issued: (e.g. Nectar, CostCo, Basic etc.) login to their online account and save to card.
Amex-issued supplementary cards: login to their online account (or create one if not yet done so) and save to card.

Non Amex-issued (both regular and supplementary): (e.g. MBNA, Barclaycard, Lloyds) use the link in the post to sign up to the program.
eatmorefish
2 Nov 16 #61
The world has moved on and hopefully this sort of pricing will be a thing of the past. I avoid any place which accepts American express because their margins are way too high if they can absorb these sort of fees.
teh arn
2 Nov 16 2 #62
Possibly the best customer service I've ever dealt with tbh.
Hassle free, English speaking and very quick to sort out any issues.
juggler1
2 Nov 16 #63
Agree. They are brilliant.
Waks_Trode
2 Nov 16 #64
This is absolutely brilliant. There are quite a few restaurants I can go to with this. Taking £5 off a night out a couple of times in the run-up to Christmas will be a nice way to save some money and will probably sway me into go out instead of staying in.
Sugarhunny77
2 Nov 16 #65
It says it won't be paid out on giftcard purchases. Did this definitely appear on last years T&C's? I can't remember.

Thanks in advance folks!
nate49LS
2 Nov 16 #66
Shop small is great, I used it a few time last year and will again this year. if you have more than 1 amex card get you bill split if the cashier/waiter is willing ie £5 off per £10. I agree with some of the other posts that the map does show some shops that say they accept and don't, and also doesn't show some shops that do. I have had the BA amex card for a while and have found the customer service over the phone to be excellent. The card if free and collect 1 avios point per £1. If you are referred by someone you also get an increased sign up bonus. a good site for all things points related is http://www.headforpoints.com.
vultan999
2 Nov 16 #67
?
dave80
2 Nov 16 #68
One Stop doesn't seem to be included this year.
Garymorris14
2 Nov 16 #69
Some aren't owned by Tesco - some are franchise stores. Those should be 'independent' - and hence may be 'small shops' - but there's no guarantee.
dave80
2 Nov 16 #70
I can't find a single one listed in any area or post code I check. Even specific post codes or streets where there are stores which worked last year.
backinstock
2 Nov 16 #71
I'd wait and check if they have the 'Shop Small' logo showing.
If they have, then it should be OK, even if you have to be credited by Amex customer services.
Do they still accept Amex though?
dinglebert
2 Nov 16 #72
Used this last year to great effect. Now there are double the amount for this year in my town. I had one which didn't accept amex on the list but amex paid the £5 anyway.
DangerousTheory
2 Nov 16 #73
I wonder where you buy your groceries from then? Local greengrocer, fishmonger, butcher etc?
Bambibear
3 Nov 16 #74
Brilliant, used last year and for stocking fillers and a few drinks on nights out. Never had any issues, in most cases the £5 credit was on the same day as purchase. Also agree with other users about customer services. I (stupidly) lost a card and they were fantastic sorting everything out.....Fudge Kitchen cashback, yum!
nictry
3 Nov 16 #75
What a great story
Melbury
5 Nov 16 #76
Can you use the card in the same pub/restaurant more than once?
morgie
5 Nov 16 1 #77
Nope, one use per registered shop/restaurant etc.
Melbury
6 Nov 16 #78
Thanks for that.
Undisclosed2
6 Nov 16 #79
That's irrelevant. If you accept Amex, you could take the payment when someone tries to pay.
fgy
6 Nov 16 1 #80
About shops not wanting to take Amex...

No one can have a problem with this if it's the shop's commercial decision not to sign up to Amex in the first place.
None at all.

What I find infuriating is when a shop has the Amex logo on display, or a "Shop Small" logo in the window, and is on the Amex Shop Small map ( I'm told by Amex that all retailers will have had to opt in to the Shop Small promotion),
but then the staff say that they don't take Amex, or that the machine isn't working, or they want to add an extra charge on the transaction.

Just pick a flipping side and stick to it!
That way, everyone knows where they stand, and there's no awkward moments or wasted time, all around
emerald21
7 Nov 16 #81
What card is everyone getting please
dave80
7 Nov 16 #82
I expect a lot of people have the Amex Nectar Credit Card due to the recent promotion on that and it does qualify for Shop Small.

Another popular card is the Amex Platinum Cashback Credit Card although these days it's better to go for the free "Everyday" version as they have reduced the benefits on the paid version.

Another option for a fee-free card is the Basic (Blue) charge card. It has no fee but also no benefits except you can sign it up to some offers, of which Shop Small is one of them.

You could also take out the Gold Rewards charge card free for the first year.

Why not take a look at the American Express web site and see what suits you?
emerald21
7 Nov 16 #83
Thank you Dave
varunadas
8 Nov 16 #84
Does any one know if a merchant that is listed this year is automatically dropped next year ? I only ask as none of the shops were I shopped is in the list.
morgie
8 Nov 16 #85
Nope, that's certainly not the normal approach.
kooks65
8 Nov 16 #86
I've been to my hairdressers today and although they are on the list they are not taking Amex, I wonder if I go back while this offer is on and buy some nice shampoo if Amex will still honour it?
morgie
8 Nov 16 1 #87
If it's llike years in the past, if they're still listed on 3/12, send a complaint email to Amex via your account explaining that they wouldn't accept Amex and they'll then most likely credit you £5 - no need to prove your (non Amex) purchase.
Mentos
8 Nov 16 1 #88
Hmmmm not sure Mr/Mrs Fraud is the best choice of fake name :confused:
baldude
9 Nov 16 1 #89
Thanks OP! Never had amex card before.....applied after this post and got accepted.....
thanks for your post.
Super74
11 Nov 16 #90
Would anyone know if you can load this offer onto an Amex Basic Card?
If yes then ill apply for one.
dave80
11 Nov 16 #91
Yes you can but you have to use the signup page which I believe is mentioned earlier in this discussion thread. I know it works as I tried it myself and it now shows as opted in on the Amex iPhone app.
Super74
11 Nov 16 #92
Sorry I don't understand by what you mean "the signup page"?
I do have the Amex app as well.
Super74
11 Nov 16 #93
I think I've got it now. Thanks anyway.
dave80
11 Nov 16 #94
Btw the basic card can only be applied for via post, or at least that was the case close to a year ago when I got mine. It also took them ages to process the application!
Super74
12 Nov 16 #95
That is what I was thinking,all the other cards can be done online but you have to download the form for this one and post it off.
ukdoctor
12 Nov 16 #96
Do you still get cash back when you buy a giftcard during the shop small offer.

I know that the T&C says no. But does Amex actually check what you have bought ?
Super74
12 Nov 16 #97
I buy lots of giftcards,even from the Post Office like "one 4 all". And always get the £5 credited.
Newbold
12 Nov 16 #98
Go ahead - Amex just knows the retailer and the transaction amount. It doesn't know what's been purchased - and it doesn't much care. :smiley:
backinstock
12 Nov 16 #99
Lots of new places showing on the map this year.
The map shows the main places and numbers them, but check out the little 'dots' and find some little gems.

Only three weeks to go. :smile:

I passed a One Stop shop today and no signage that they take Amex. Not to say they don't though and I'll still take a tenner chance.
Please update any successes or failures with One Stop shops.
Quite a few Premier shops listed though and they have decent offers sometimes.
autolycus
15 Nov 16 1 #100
Thanks - would have missed this.
snowee
23 Nov 16 #101
I just called AMEX and they said you could use it once per day per merchant, so you could use it everyday in the same shop ... not quite sure that I believe them, so I will call them again, to check with a different person ... I have re-read the T & Cs and I must say it's not crystal clear
morgie
23 Nov 16 #102
Once per individual shop per card is my expectation (in line with previous years).
snowee
28 Nov 16 1 #103
Just called Amex back and I was given wrong information the other day ... you're right it's once per merchant during the time period ... they need to fire these people who give out false information!
morgie
28 Nov 16 #104
Glad they cleared it up. I'm sure it was an honest mistake, but not great and definitely out of the ordinary for what I and many others seem to find faultless customer service.
dave80
28 Nov 16 #105
The last couple of calls I've made to Amex (within UK business hours) have been answered overseas, whereas in the past it has been 100% British people in Brighton. It's also the first time I've received "bad" customer service from Amex. A refund of £2032 was processed as £20.32. I hope it's not a sign of things to come.
kooks65
28 Nov 16 #106
Does anyone know who foots the £5, I was going to buy some gift vouchers from a shop near me and as I've got two cards I was going to get two but I really don't want him being out of pocket because of it?
morgie
28 Nov 16 1 #107
Definitely not the shop - this event would kill some of them otherwise, not help.

https://www.amexshopsmall.co.uk/shop-small-for-business

From 3 December right up to 18 December 2016 – when American Express® Cardmembers spend £10 or more with a participating small business, they will get a £5 credit on their statement, funded by American Express. It costs nothing to take part in the campaign and take advantage of a number of benefits available to you. Scroll down to find out more.
morgie
28 Nov 16 #108
Interesting - haven't experienced a non Brighton call, but haven't called for a while.
beccajay
28 Nov 16 #109
seems gift vouchers are excluded. From the Ts and Cs "Offer excludes purchases made on finance and the purchase of gift cards and vouchers."
Newbold
28 Nov 16 3 #110
True - but given that Amex simply sees a transaction, and not details of the transaction, it's difficult to see how gift vouchers could be excluded (and they haven't been in previous years).
Gollywood
30 Nov 16 #111
Shockingly, there are a 100 places that offer this within walking distance & 9-10 of my most frequented eateries! I shall enjoy using this!!
hemp
30 Nov 16 #112
I registered my two cards with the same email. Will I still get my cashback on both? Thanks for your help.
dave80
30 Nov 16 #113
Yes you will.
backinstock
30 Nov 16 1 #114
I'm hoping One Stop works as they have a few offers on. Check the Premier Shops as they too have some good deals, especially beer. Eight pints for £8 is worth looking at. Just need to add a small £2 spend.
morgie
30 Nov 16 2 #115
A winning Lotto ticket perhaps?
backinstock
30 Nov 16 1 #116
​Can you still get winning tickets? :sunglasses:
morgie
1 Dec 16 2 #117
Maybe you can get them under the Trade Descriptions Act for their "Lucky" Dip?
luvsadealdealdeal
1 Dec 16 #118
this is the real deal - expire that other dog
Gollywood
1 Dec 16 #119
There are a few places that seem to be signed up to this locally that I know for a fact don't take any cards - 'cash only'.
luvsadealdealdeal
1 Dec 16 1 #120
but if they don't take Amex, you pay with another card & tell Amex - who then give you a £5 statement credit

happened to me about 10 times LY when I was on a stamp run - Amex were good as gold every time :smiley:
morgie
1 Dec 16 1 #121
If they're still listed on Saturday and refuse to take your card complain to Amex (message via your account) and they'll most likely credit you £5.
luvsadealdealdeal
1 Dec 16 1 #122
that's what I just said you plagiarist :smiley:
morgie
1 Dec 16 #123
Haha, both "time stamped" here at the same point....but looks like you got in there first :laughing:
morgie
1 Dec 16 1 #124
If it's good enough for Louise - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lF00CDOptY:laughing:
morgie
2 Dec 16 2 #125
One day to go until Small Business Saturday meaning the start of the two week spending period of the offer :smiley:

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backinstock
3 Dec 16 4 #126
Go, go, go. :smile:
morgie
3 Dec 16 1 #127
OP updated :sunglasses:
morgie
3 Dec 16 #128
Shop Small Ad - http://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/american-express-partners-channel-4-promote-small-businesses/1417498 I heard before One Stops were removed from this year's promotion the script for the ad was quite different, 'celebs' going on about their favourite One Stop where they can stock up on cheap stamps, booze and lottery tickets.
kooks65
3 Dec 16 #129
Is it your credit card company who you complain to if a shop is listed and doesn't take it, so I'd contact MBNA via their messages when I log-in to my account?
luvsadealdealdeal
3 Dec 16 2 #130
CONFIRMED: I bought £10.44 stamps at a convenience store from last year's list - not on this year's list - and it was fine, got the success email
morgie
3 Dec 16 #131
Is this the type of place you'd want to come to a halt at less than twice?
luvsadealdealdeal
3 Dec 16 #132
put it this way: I'll go back with the other cards tomorrow :smiley:
joshsimmons
3 Dec 16 #133
Hmm used my registered card at a OneStop store earlier today (which worked last year) and no success email through. I don't think OneStops are included this year
morgie
3 Dec 16 #134
Thanks for testing. Did pay with contactless?
luvsadealdealdeal
3 Dec 16 1 #135
Spar
pototea
3 Dec 16 1 #136
Got two shops done today, my local butcher where I paid with chips and pin and got the email straight away and an ice cream shop where I paid via contact less. Didn't get an email from the last one but not too worried as I had no issues last year :smiley:
morgie
3 Dec 16 #137
Yeah, you won't get the email with contact less and it'll just take a little longer.
joshsimmons
3 Dec 16 1 #138
No this was chip & pin
fgy
3 Dec 16 #139
There's a lot of shops, especially newsagents, near me which have been on the Shop Small map in previous years but don't appear this year. I'm inclined to think this is an error/omission and I should give them a try.

Anyone else noticed this or tried a transaction where the shop wasn't on the map?

edit
ah - just saw earlier post where this happened. Any other reports?
stevenhp1987
3 Dec 16 3 #140
The map can only show 100 locations.

I've found that focusing in on a location makes more places appear (as they were not included within the 100 limit). This could be why they were not "on the map" from the start...
morgie
4 Dec 16 2 #141
£5 credit from Amex Customer Services as expected for reporting a failed attempt to use the card in a listed store. They will contact the store and remove them from the promo listing if there not accepting the card.
morgie
4 Dec 16 1 #142
Have you searched by the name of the shop too?
backinstock
4 Dec 16 1 #143
Well done.
They told me the exact same thing last year and believe it or not, some shops, merchants and bars stated they have never taken Amex..............ever.
Still showing this year, but it can work to your advantage.
jujuja
4 Dec 16 1 #144
Used my card at a confirmed location on the list this morning and no email! Used chip and pin, so why hasn't it triggered the email? Has anyone found they received an email later? I always seem to get them instantly on these offers.
backinstock
4 Dec 16 #145
I've just had the same issue this morning.
Yes, normally instant notification, unless there is a problem with the listing.
luvsadealdealdeal
4 Dec 16 #146
chip & pin = instant notification

you'll have to phone Amex to get the credit in a couple of days
henn
4 Dec 16 #147
Boo, I got the TFL refunds quickly, but apparently didn't do the Nero side correctly? Didn't expect them to work differently? Argh!
jujuja
4 Dec 16 #148
Just used it in another shop listed and accepted my Amex but no email! So now between my husband I we are owed £15 back. What a joke this is going to be keeping claiming for things.
morgie
4 Dec 16 #149
I've done one purchase today (chip and PIN) and also not had the email. Anyone else had a confirmation email today? Sure it'll be fine.
morgie
4 Dec 16 #150
Do you mean you think you've had a problem with the Caffe Nero deal (10% cashback)? If so, what's the issue?
mspychala
4 Dec 16 #151
All of the contactless transactions yesterday and today are not triggering the emails:(
morgie
4 Dec 16 1 #152
Contactless I'm used to not generating the emails, but chip and PIN usually always will immediately.
backinstock
4 Dec 16 #153
No joy today with other purchases getting notifications! I'm leaving it until it's fixed or credits are showing. I don't want too many manual claims.
henn
4 Dec 16 1 #154
Quite right, totally wrong thread, was reminded of the latter, by this one :smiley: Can delete my comment if it would help?
henn
4 Dec 16 2 #155
:smiley: Happy to confirm my first shop small purchase was a success though. Again a mistake - a small chain London salon I didn't think would be signed up - paid with chip and pin, got the confirmation email as I walked out the door!
backinstock
4 Dec 16 #156
Was that today?
Email confirmations today have been pretty much rare.
morgie
4 Dec 16 #157
That's the best type :smile: A genuine purchase you were going to make anyway and a bonus £5 off. Interested as is backinstock to know if it was today or not, I'm guessing Saturday?
henn
4 Dec 16 2 #158
Saturday, 10am, I'm afraid.
morgie
4 Dec 16 #159
Yup, see today's comments here - seems like some sort of technical glitch today with emails not being sent. At least hoping that's all it is - watch for your credit.
juggler1
4 Dec 16 #160
D'you know, I could be dreaming, but I'm sure I remember this happening last year, and it all coming right in the wash?
luvsadealdealdeal
4 Dec 16 #161
were they all contactless?
luvsadealdealdeal
4 Dec 16 #162
sure you registered your card? :smiley:
backinstock
5 Dec 16 #163
Any notifications today anyone?

I'll try later and update.
dave80
5 Dec 16 1 #164
I'm waiting to hear others have success before I bother!
HelloKitty88
5 Dec 16 1 #165
We haven't got any email notificatio either!
backinstock
5 Dec 16 #166
No joy today, but got notification for the Post Office offer.
juggler1
5 Dec 16 1 #167
No email notifications, but the spends from today are showing as pending on the app, and I've had my £5 credit from Saturday's spend
backinstock
5 Dec 16 #168
I've just finished a call with Amex customer service and they stated they weren't aware of any issues! They did say they would report the issue to their IT department though. I'm hoping that the £5 rebates come through naturally like contactless transactions do. I'll know within the next few days I'd imagine. Hard work if you need to keep asking for a manual claim though!
gocat
5 Dec 16 #169
Anyone know how long it takes for amex to get back to you if you send them a message re a shop on the small shop map list not taking amex. tia :smiley:
fgy
5 Dec 16 2 #170
I HAVE got email notifications of my chip and pin purchases today, although most were contactless and for these I haven't got notifications

The usual adventure of Shop Small where some merchants said they didn't take Amex, or slapped on a charge (one wanted £2!!).

I just wish they wouldn't sign up to Amex if they so hated processing it- then we'd all know where we stood
Newbold
5 Dec 16 #171
For goodness sake. Why all the fuss about emails? Why not just wait for the credit and leave any fussing for the unlikely event of its not turning up?
juggler1
5 Dec 16 #172
That happened to me today
luvsadealdealdeal
5 Dec 16 1 #173
because most of the ones I want to use aren't on this year's map but I get the firm impression it will work fine - I just want some success emails to prove it
henn
5 Dec 16 #174
May I ask who you reached out to? Number on the back of the card or someone specific? I scanned the SS website and couldn't find anything
morgie
5 Dec 16 #175
I reported one Saturday morning, had a response early Sunday morning (from India) and £5 credit showing in my online account by this morning (Monday).
morgie
5 Dec 16 2 #176
Login to your Amex account (assuming Amex issued card) and send an email to them via the online facility. "Contact Us" link from the main landing page once you've logged in, then "Email American Express" link, then "Write a Message".
morgie
5 Dec 16 #177
Sounds like classic Amex Shop Small times. Amazing how many of the shops have no idea about the promo either.

Hopefully that means notifications are back to normal today then, as wouldn't expect them for Contactless from what I've experienced before.
morgie
5 Dec 16 #178
I think some of the email discussion is about how to contact Amex for a store that refuses/doesn't accept the card.

Agree, if it's just concern about Sunday's transactions, give it until the end of the week to see if the credit shows in your account before contacting Amex (whether phone - local Brighton number on back of card, or secure email via your online account).
backinstock
5 Dec 16 #179
Yes, same here. A few I want to use aren't on the map, but have the Shop Small logo displayed.
The map isn't accurate and that's being polite. Not the standard you'd expect from Amex to be honest, although their customer service if exceptional.
I like the confirmation emails as I can mark them off my spreadsheet. lol
backinstock
5 Dec 16 #180
Was that late afternoon?
Noon transaction didn't give a notification for myself and that's from a shop I always use and without issue.
juggler1
5 Dec 16 1 #181
Lol at 'spreadsheet' :smile:
luvsadealdealdeal
5 Dec 16 1 #182
yep I got £1500 spending spree in mind - which is fine if you get £750 back :smiley:

but painful if you get it wrong - tomorrow I'll do a few to see if they come up online on the statement in a few days' time - still leavers me loads of time
luvsadealdealdeal
5 Dec 16 1 #183
it's hit & miss - others report emails from Sunday as well
backinstock
5 Dec 16 1 #184
It's actually a roll of lining paper to be honest, but just the one roll.
(two last year). :smile:
morgie
5 Dec 16 1 #185
For Shop Small on Sunday? Someone confirmed they had one for the TK Maxx, but I didn't see anyone confirm for Shop Small(?)
fgy
5 Dec 16 1 #186
15.02 and 15.45
backinstock
5 Dec 16 #187
[quote=fgy]
Much appreciated and gives confidence.
Good luck with future purchases.
morgie
5 Dec 16 1 #188
There's another reason they need an app :laughing: Let you plan your route, and give shop owners a heads up the dreaded "Do you take Amex?" question is coming. Plus 'scoreboard' functionality to see if anyone can out shop backinstock!
luvsadealdealdeal
5 Dec 16 1 #189
elsewhere - 7 as well he said
backinstock
5 Dec 16 #190
I did more than 70 last year and had planned 50. I could have probably made 100, but gave up.
Lots of restaurant / pub vouchers / giftcards which lasted quite a while............................. longer than the booze anyway!
luvsadealdealdeal
5 Dec 16 1 #191
I remember making £700 out of it, I was running around with 5 cards & 140 transactions = 28 shops, it was definitely that - mostly stamps
rachelh667
5 Dec 16 2 #192
If I may add my tuppence worth i went to stores last year that wouldnt accept it and tried them again this year and they did! Idid one thing differently last year ... Iasked didthey accept amex. to which they said no! This year I just used it like any other card..tapped onfor contactless and said notthing. and it worked. This might be something to consider :smiley:
rachelh667
5 Dec 16 1 #193
Did anyone try a onestop yet for science and have any joy.. although not on the list ...you never know:)
backinstock
5 Dec 16 1 #194
Not tried, but they do still take Amex.
I fear it's a no-no though.
dave80
5 Dec 16 2 #195
I tried a One-Stop on Saturday. No email received and no £5 credit, yet at least. I say yet because I have read elsewhere that One-Stop works this year too. It's possible I just didn't receive the Shop Small email.
rachelh667
5 Dec 16 1 #196
thanks anyway.. imay try ..buy a £10 worth of loss leaders and see if it works that way i wont feel bothered if it doesnt work..willpost once ive tried to update all :smiley:
rachelh667
5 Dec 16 1 #197
im gonna try them in them tomorrow for science and will post either way any updates if any :smiley:
sparky83
5 Dec 16 #198
Anyone had any success at getting two statement credits from the same shop using a second supplimentary card? We shopped on Saturday and can see both transactions online but only one statement credit so far. Both cards are signed up.
rachelh667
5 Dec 16 1 #199
will be fine ...its per registered card :smiley:
cuddykid
5 Dec 16 1 #200
went to around 20 newsagents that do oyster top ups & supposedly accept amex according to the shop small site. Only about 5 accepted amex and fees ranged from 25p to £2! Will be emailing amex about the rest.

The newsagents are the worst as they often have 'we accept amex' signs in the windows yet soon as you crack out an amex card it's 'no no no, not amex'.
mad569797
6 Dec 16 #201
any ideas on this? just logged in to my partner's supplementary card account and the shop small offer is showing as redeemed in the my offers, yet in my account it's showing as available.
backinstock
6 Dec 16 1 #202
£5 credits are now showing on my cards from Sunday purchases and are matching correctly against the store, rather than manual credits.
So, it looks like the email notifications were broke, but not the actual tracking (the real important bit).
I got a credit for a merchant who no longer accepts Amex (hasn't done for over three years), so I'll gamble with a One Stop shop later in the week. If it doesn't work, the credit will cover it. If it does work, the credit will be given to charity.
juggler1
6 Dec 16 1 #203
It's fine, as you can redeem it multiple times.
morgie
6 Dec 16 1 #204
My credit for a spend on Sunday is now showing in my account, so no problems despite emails not being sent. Hope that puts some minds at rest :laughing::wink:
henn
6 Dec 16 1 #205
Thanks Morgie! One sent, and, I can imagine there are more entries to update. The pub in question in my message has been demolished, so it certainly isn't accepting Amex, or any other card!
HelloKitty88
6 Dec 16 1 #206
Never got the email confirmation but checked account online today and saw the £5 credit from Saturday spent.
luvsadealdealdeal
6 Dec 16 1 #207
seems to be working fine today - got the requisite success emails
backinstock
6 Dec 16 #208
Yes, got a few emails today.
I'll be busy tomorrow and through to the weekend.
backinstock
6 Dec 16 #209
Here's a link to the Premier Stores promotions which cover the Shop Small period.
Worth checking to see if any independent shops are classed as Premier Stores. Some do charge a small credit card charge, but I've never been charged more than 50p. I'd refuse if they wanted more anyway.

http://www.premier-stores.co.uk/on-promotion/

Plenty of offers to make the 'perfect £10' spend, so half-price.
henn
7 Dec 16 #210
Got my response on my message inside 24 hours, £5 on the way to my account, which will go towards my next shop small :smiley:
Super74
7 Dec 16 1 #211
Another success on a shop which was on last years map but not on it this time, shopped from there and received the £5 credit.
hemp
7 Dec 16 #212
bought two tins of Quality Street in my newsagents. £2.50 each after cashback. :smile:
fgy
7 Dec 16 #213
I discovered a new excuse a merchant used for not wanting to take Amex.

Previously, I've had a simple "we don't take Amex" (despite having logos all over the shop and being on the Shop Small map)
and "the machine won't take Amex",
not to mention card usage charges varying from 50p to £3 (yes! - last year)

Today, a grocer claimed that the shop had reached the "credit limit" for Amex or the machine.
This was at 1pm in an area where most transactions would almost certainly be with cash.
Does any retailer on here think this is a real thing??

And I've also found that some merchants who had no issues with Amex last year show reluctance this year, and vice versa....

So basically I have no idea how I'll be received in a shop with my Amex card!

Why do merchants who don't like Amex (for whatever reason) sign up to Amex?
Can anyone explain this irrational behaviour?
kooks65
7 Dec 16 #214
Just got a holly wreath from my florist, as I have two amex cards I asked her to split the bill so I've saved a tenner on it :smile:
mad569797
7 Dec 16 1 #215
​are all premier stores in the shop small?
stevenhp1987
7 Dec 16 2 #216
Premier is a franchise, so only some individual franchises will be.
backinstock
7 Dec 16 1 #217
As above, look for individual stores that are on the map.
I've been to a different Premier Store today, which is on the map, but wouldn't sell at the promoted offers. I walked away.
I'll only use a few, but the vodka is ok for the price with the £5 off.
juggler1
7 Dec 16 1 #218
I got the 30 bags of Walkers box at £3 and some other shopping. House crammed with food now tbh lol
cuddykid
7 Dec 16 2 #219
Doing quite well so far, managed to get £200 in Oyster top ups across multiple newsagents using my cards. Going to start hitting the restaurants soon getting gift cards. Love shop small!
gocat
7 Dec 16 #220
I tried my local premier which is listed on the small shops map and they said they don't take amex :disappointed:
backinstock
7 Dec 16 #221
Hope you haven't just been stocking up on the 'naughty' calories. :smile:
juggler1
7 Dec 16 1 #222
Ha, tbh, I have. Complaints from family, I only usually buy ingredients for meals. They also complain that they are bored with my, admittedly narrow, but superbly executed, baking repertoire. So, it was crisps and ice cream :smiley:
mad569797
7 Dec 16 #223
sadly there are none on the map near maidstone :disappointed:
wolfinsheepsclothing
7 Dec 16 1 #224
​excellent I'm planning on four full oysters two done two to go.
backinstock
7 Dec 16 1 #225
Are you searching for Premier Stores?
Mine are showing as the shops name, but they are franchised or working under the Premier Stores banner.
There are a few in Maidstone, but I'm not sure if they are on the Shop Small map.

http://www.premier-stores.co.uk/result-stores/?find-store=maidstone
mad569797
7 Dec 16 1 #226
i searched for premier stores in the area and looked to see if they were on the map but sadly not, all we have this year are take aways and other local shops id not spend in
cuddykid
8 Dec 16 #227
First morning I haven't woken to responses from emails to amex
HelloKitty88
8 Dec 16 #228
Does anyone know if the Small shop offer works in post office? I noticed a couple of post office near me listed on the map. Have already got the post office offer but wonder if i could use the small shop offer on a card which didn't have the post office offer.
cuddykid
8 Dec 16 #229
Certainly won't work for all POs. Theoretically should work wherever is listed on the map however I have found oddities, for example "London Bridge London Underground Station" is listed on the map. TFL is certainly not a 'small shop' :laughing: but I've been there twice now (different cards) to get new oyster cards to top up. Haven't had credits through but I'll ping amex by the end of the week and chase them
dave80
8 Dec 16 #230
My nearest Post Office is listed on Shop Small. So what will happen if I make a £10 purchase from there? Will the first one trigger the Post Office offer and the second Shop Small? Maybe I'll get both rewards triggered at once? Has anybody experience of this?
luvsadealdealdeal
8 Dec 16 1 #231
the only discussion I've had this year was positive for Amex - the butcher (£40 Xmas joint split over 4 cards :smiley: ) knew that Amex charges had come down

re: the irrational behaviour - I don't think they had a choice on Amex, ie they signed up for the card machine/ transaction device that was sold as a bundle, incl Visa, MC & Amex - so is capable of processing all those cards and maybe others such as Diners. Then they realise Amex is/ was more expensive so instruct staff not to accept Amex cards
luvsadealdealdeal
8 Dec 16 #232
yep - you won't get Shop Small at the Post Office counter, only in the shop associated with it

similarly the Post Office offer won't work in the shop, only on PO Counter
luvsadealdealdeal
8 Dec 16 #233
see answer immediately above
mspychala
8 Dec 16 #234
19 DUKE STREET HILL, LONDON SE1 2SW is an address for London Bridge Confectioners.
dave80
8 Dec 16 #235
Is this a theory or have you had this work in practice? If in practice, was this a post office inside another branded store e.g WHSmith?

My local post office has a "WHSmith Local" inside. It is however the post office itself which is listed for Shop Small.
luvsadealdealdeal
8 Dec 16 #236
It's a mistake - no Post Offices are included in Shop Small

The PO Counters business is entirely separate to the co-associated shop

You could probably get Amex to compensate you £5 for dodgy map though :smiley:
luvsadealdealdeal
8 Dec 16 #237
Looks like THE OFFICIAL AMEX SHOP SMALL 2016 thread will hit 1000C soon :smiley:

beggar me - soon be Xmas folks - only 2 weeks to go! :smiley:
cuddykid
8 Dec 16 #238
Getting a little fed up with these dodgy newsagents and their moaning about Amex. Just popped into one for an Oyster top up. Asked if they take cards for payment, said yes. I managed to ram my Amex into the reader before he saw it was an Amex (past experience tells me v likely chance of saying no). Processed fine then he saw when I was taking it out and shouted at me how dare I pay on Amex (despite whacking on a £1 fee).

I've been trying to do them all chip and pin so far so they track properly. I'm now thinking about using Apple Pay as they won't have a clue what card I'm using as long as they don't see the screen.. will they? Has anyone got experience using Apple Pay with regards to tracking? Assuming it's same case as contactless (got to wait a few days extra)?
dave80
8 Dec 16 #239
He could still see Amex mentioned on the receipt, if he is eagle-eyed.
dave80
8 Dec 16 #240
Actually I think this is a good question. I assume that Apple Pay transactions will qualify just as a standard contactless transaction will quality but does anybody have practical experience of this?
anonimousse
8 Dec 16 1 #241
Why go through all that hassle? I learnt couple of 'shop-smalls' ago that some shopkeepers on the list just go mental at the mere mention of this card. This time I did not even bother and simply contacted Amex and got my credit.
Mangoon
8 Dec 16 #242
I tell you what would be useful on that map - a pointer showing where you are on it!
dave80
8 Dec 16 1 #243
Don't know where you live? :smile:
luvsadealdealdeal
8 Dec 16 1 #244
hmm - well dodgy

don't mess up the excellent Amex CS by your thieving, please :smiley:
dave80
8 Dec 16 1 #245
Not really thieving if he knows they will refuse Amex if he goes there.
anonimousse
8 Dec 16 #246
Stop being shady and dodge paying your taxes!!!
https://s16.postimg.org/ee95zkkpx/luvsadeal_hp.png
luvsadealdealdeal
8 Dec 16 #247
of course it is thieving

phone up Amex - pretend I went to a shop but Amex not accepted/ Shop Small didn't work - give me my thieving £5

ie I Paid on Visa/ MC - yeah right
dave80
8 Dec 16 #248
Not everybody would necessarily have an alternative card. It's just as likely to say fine then, don't take my business.

I suppose the idea behind Amex giving the £5 credit is twofold. Firstly, to keep the customer happy and secondly, they will know which retailers are resisting Amex acceptance. It's in their interest to do something about the latter.
backinstock
8 Dec 16 #249
Sadly, the map is cr4p and could allow for abuse.
I went to a retail park the other day and two merchants listed have now long gone!
One is in fact a Poundland now. lol
(no claims)
But, AMEX do need to get the map sorted for next year at least and don't seem to remove reported merchants who do not take, or have never took AMEX.
I've been to a butchers today, run by elderly chaps, who don't update their status, but still show the Shop Small logo in their window and like last year, email notification instantly. They should be included, others need to be removed! Luckily, the AMEX customer service is far, far superior to the Amex Shop Small map!
anonimousse
8 Dec 16 #250
You need to stop pretending to be disabled and stealing from Microsoft, please ;--))
Below are your own words...well dodgy!

https://s24.postimg.org/5ngnlby39/luvsadeal_w10.png
fgy
9 Dec 16 #251
I can now answer this
I used a Post Office on the Shop Small map. It was , however, not a Post Office counter, but a "Kiosk" within the post office. I got my £5 credit for Shop Small, but NOT for the Post Office deal.
So I'll have to use that in another fashion
You can buy one4all gift cards there, which you can use at a lot of places, or simply add to your amazon account
HelloKitty88
9 Dec 16 #252
Thanks!! Do you meant there is a separate "kiosk" inside the post office and so I shouldn't go to a normal counter (where one buys stamps) but look for the kiosk that sells other things (but stamps)? Thx!
fgy
9 Dec 16 #253
Hello Kitty,

If a Post Office is listed on the map, then I'd suppose ( from my single experience so far) that there's a separate booth within the post office which sells stationary, oyster cards and sundries - which is where to go to.

Also, I don't think Post Office Counters sell Oyster cards

The one I used was
POST OFFICE
39 - 41 FARRINGDON ROAD , LONDON LONDON EC1M 3JB

I'll also try
KINGS CROSS POST OFFICE
17-21 EUSTON ROAD , LONDON LONDON NW1 2RY

MAYFAIR POST OFFICE
32A GROSVENOR STREET , LONDON LONDON W1K 4PA

EALINZ COMMON POST OFFICE
UXBRIDGE ROAD 2 GROSVENOR PARADE , LONDON LONDON W5 3NN

PRIMROSE HILL POST OFFICE
91 REGENTS PARK ROAD , LONDON LONDON NW1 8UT
HelloKitty88
9 Dec 16 #254
Many thanks!
backinstock
10 Dec 16 #255
Some credits from Tuesday haven't come through yet, but many from Wednesday and Thursday have. Anyone else finding this? Email notifications for all now, so at least confirmation. I'll leave it until Monday and see what comes through.
luvsadealdealdeal
10 Dec 16 1 #256
my credits are a bit hit & miss as well

yesterday did 32 shops, got 32 emails so I am relaxed about it - obviously have to wait a few days in any case before making any calls
luvsadealdealdeal
10 Dec 16 #257
the thing to remember is that no 'post offices' are included in shop small - ie the things post offices sell as counter services - stamps, road tax etc are not included http://www.postoffice.co.uk/services-we-provide
backinstock
10 Dec 16 1 #258
It's probably best to wait until you've finished your 'pillaging' and add up the amount of credits you want verses what you have received and claim for the rest.
I'll probably only do around 40 - 50 this year in total. Last year I did waste quite a bit and to be honest, some purchases were only worth a little more than the cost with the £5 credited.
baldude
10 Dec 16 2 #259
surprised.... my local opticians are not listed on shop small. yet got£5 credit.....
backinstock
10 Dec 16 2 #260
There are many that enrolled for Shop Small in the past, who haven't updated their status, that are still eligible. Not showing on the map, but the map is a let down at times. I'd prefer an up-to-date directory, rather than an out-of-date map (which includes merchants who don't or have never taken Amex , or even don't exist anymore).

That's my moans over for the day and it's not even 9.30 am yet. :smile:
luvsadealdealdeal
10 Dec 16 1 #261
yep I have been (almost) exclusively doing my shops at outlets not on this year's map - because I primarily want stamps

once I did that test, I was happy that if an outlet was on LY's map it would still work fine, and so it has proven to be

there is a pub that was on the map 2 yrs ago but disappeared LY, so I might try that, risk is 3 pints of beers for a tenner so worth a test - I will bring along a tablet to see if I get the email then have 6, 9 or 12 :smiley:
luvsadealdealdeal
10 Dec 16 #262
we should test out whether Amex have automatically enrolled all small outlets in Shop Small
backinstock
10 Dec 16 #263
Although my wife 'drives me to drink', she can't actually drive.
Or, I would take advantage of instances like that. ;-)
I could take a taxi home I suppose..........................if I can remember the number after 12 pints!
Enjoy.
cuddykid
10 Dec 16 1 #264
I'd be very interested in knowing whether this is the case. There's a lot of 'small' restaurants in Soho that we love to visit and I'd buy up lots of gift vouchers however they're not on the map so haven't tried yet..
super75
10 Dec 16 #265
Just wanted to ask that I know the Farringdon Rd post office is on the small shop list. But I think the others you hv mentioned aren't. Will you be going there because they were on the list last year ? To see if you get the credit.
backinstock
10 Dec 16 1 #266
If the merchants have the Shop Small logo displayed, you should be OK. Even if you don't get credited at first, customer service will add the credit.
Some merchants that don't show on the map with a basic search, can sometimes be found by typing their name in. Sometimes this comes up and even though you may not get the email confirmation, you would eventually be credited.
Good luck.
fgy
10 Dec 16 #267
They are on the map - search for 'post office' in 'London', and they appear .
May need to zoom out
kirill
10 Dec 16 #268
Can anyone point me in the direction of a shop that does Three telephone top ups that is on the map in London?

also would be really grateful for a driving instructor that might be participating :smiley:

Looked for both but no luck.
super75
10 Dec 16 1 #269
Thank you. Also you said you went to the Farringdon Rd post office branch, do they sell one4all gift cards at the kiosk? Because I know that if you buy the gift cards from the post office counter it doesn't trigger off the small shop notification. Also would you know if most of the post office kiosks sell the one4all gift cards. That way I could buy the gift cards to use later and also get the £5 credit. TIA
fgy
10 Dec 16 #270
I only looked for Oyster at the kiosk in Farringdon Post Office, and so can't answer if they have one4all gift cards. They have stationery, etc etc if you prefer not to use the facility for Oyster top up

I've found that Post Office Counters purchase of one4all gift cards triggers the Post Office Amex offer (spend £10 at Post Office for £5 statement credit.) if you received that offer and saved it
cuddykid
10 Dec 16 #271
Yes, I went into this branch yesterday. The small shop inside does Oyster top ups (for shop small) and the post office section does one4all gift cards for post office offer
wolfinsheepsclothing
10 Dec 16 #272
​try any Krystal's they do oyster and phone top ups. Hit and miss as to extra 50p charge.
kirill
10 Dec 16 #273
Found some that do phone top ups near Walthamstow, PM me if you would like the names.

Is that Krystal's near Tower Bridge - the chap told me no oyster top ups with a card.
Super74
10 Dec 16 #274
There's a shop called "Colas" on 144 High rd Tottenham N15 6JN ,they do oyster top ups but charge .70p extra per transaction.
Just ask for the .70p to be added in the £10 top up.
kooks65
10 Dec 16 #275
Hmm is this only in London?
wolfinsheepsclothing
11 Dec 16 #276
​Krystals earls court road and garret lane did oyster and phone for me 50p charge.
cuddykid
11 Dec 16 #277
Can confirm branch is earls court works well, popped in there earlier. Tower bridge branch refuse to do it.
cuddykid
11 Dec 16 #278
Amex shop small? No, it covers the whole of the UK
backinstock
12 Dec 16 #279
Lots and lots of credits today, so it looks like they've been catching up.
I'll get my green high-lighter out and I'll catch up. :smile:

One merchant from Saturday didn't register the email notification and exactly the same as last year. I'm not too sure why it's listed on 'Shop Small' as it's part of a large pub chain (Sizzling Pubs). I got the credits manually added last year, so no concerns as they are listed on the map / directory.
juggler1
12 Dec 16 1 #280
Backinstock, I'm dazzled by you. I've managed a measly 3! Are you buying gift cards ?
backinstock
12 Dec 16 1 #281
Lots and lots of giftcards and restaurant vouchers. Vouchers for butchers, bakers and candlestick makers............................................................... well, not the bakers to be honest. :stuck_out_tongue:
Wine shop vouchers and any vouchers I can buy. Most last for 6 months, some a lot longer, so it gives time and hopefully half-price drinks in the warmer months.
Pub vouchers / cards are handy for Xmas presents too.

I'm trying not to waste too much this year, but succumbed on Saturday in a dear little deli!
Only really brought the prices down to 'normal' prices with the £5 back! Gave them a sale though.
juggler1
12 Dec 16 1 #282
Thanks, will have another go today. It's just landed that I'm mad busy, but yes, thinking about it, everyone will do vouchers, and it speeds everything up for me :smiley: thanks
Super74
12 Dec 16 #283
Any other Oyster topups available in North London?
Thanks
kooks65
12 Dec 16 #284
I've had three and had three "we don't take amex", rather embarrassing really. I have complained but been told it is being passed onto MBNA. I do wish Amex would sort this better and get shop etc to put a sticker in their window saying they are taking part in the shop small scheme.
cuddykid
12 Dec 16 #285
Are you based in London backinstock?
neshah
12 Dec 16 #286
try heath news near hampstead/belsize park for oyster - where have you found?
Super74
12 Dec 16 #287
I was thinking more like Walthamstow/Ilford areas?
cuddykid
12 Dec 16 #288
Yep. However, I've come across countless places that have 'we accept amex' and shop small stickers on the window and still refuse! Mind boggles
fgy
12 Dec 16 #289
backinstock -

I'm intrigued about these gift cards and vouchers you're getting
I always thought that only big chains (M&S, Debenhams, Argos, etc etc ) did these and of course these aren't Small Shops
So what kind of stores are they? - sure this will benefit us hotukdealers and those stores!

thanks
morgie
12 Dec 16 2 #290
Just to add my experience here - there are some small restaurant chains included that do vouchers, also my local chain (no pun) of bike shops do. I dare say some small independent stores do their own too. There's always risk with giftcards of course, and you could argue more so with smaller shops - e.g. if they were to go bust.
backinstock
12 Dec 16 2 #291
No, up north where we still wear cloth caps.


As morgie has stated, many independent small and even medium sized retailer now offer vouchers (mainly) and giftcards. If you see a local restaurant / bar / butcher etc, etc listed on Shop Small, then worth asking. Contact them by Facebook, phone or direct etc. You may be surprised.

I've bought another four giftcards and vouchers today and have £150's worth for one group alone. I'm not too sure how they are listed to be honest, as their turnover is in £m's and they have many bars / restaurants and cafes. Not all are listed, but six are. Amazingly, one of their group today actually stated they didn't take Amex, but this is a newly re-opened pub, so a possible reason. I can spend the loaded giftcards there though.
Good luck.
fgy
12 Dec 16 1 #292
Thanks

Pl can either/both of you NAME such stores?
backinstock
12 Dec 16 1 #293
In my neck of the woods, I can name many. Far too many to (ab)use to be honest. But, lots of independent Italian restaurants are an example. I prefer giftcards where you can load, rather than physical paper vouchers. But butchers are worth considering and I had no choice as my freezers are full!
Where are you located?
fgy
12 Dec 16 1 #294
Thanks!
I'm in London and a non-meat eater!
backinstock
12 Dec 16 1 #295
You really should be 'spoilt for choice' to be honest.
Seek out the independents and contact them.

Check out the small local delis.
wolfinsheepsclothing
12 Dec 16 #296
I am on around 70 transactions mostly oyster, phone top ups, some gift cards, stamps and dry foods like a 10 kilo bag of rice. It can be easy to spend on what you wouldn't normally buy so I have tried to not do that. Did have to buy a fair bit of biltong though. Chemists are good for prescriptions. Dry cleaners for summer duvets that sort of thing.
morgie
12 Dec 16 #297
Barbers/hairdressers are another good one to check for giftcards/vouchers.
wolfinsheepsclothing
12 Dec 16 1 #298
and garden centres
backinstock
12 Dec 16 #299
I have at least three listed and not a single one accepts Amex.
I wanted to buy some compost.
gizz_mo
13 Dec 16 1 #300
Not well so I had to go to the local NHS walk in clinic to stock up on asthma inhalers cos I wasn't able to get an appt with doctor until the end of the week. Filled my prescription at the independent chemist attached to the clinic, and paid by Amex. Amazed to get the email saying I'd get the fiver back. I wasn't even thinking about Amex at the time. So might be worth stocking up on any regular medication and paying at a shop small chemist.
backinstock
13 Dec 16 #301
Apologies for not mentioning this earlier, but check out any Tastecard venues that can be combined with the Shop Small event.
Even if you buy vouchers now, to use in the future. Many Tastecard venues don't allow you to use the offers in December, so worth noting.

Morgie is the 'Tastecard King' and he'll advise (hopefully) how to get a free three month trial.
backinstock
13 Dec 16 1 #302
Quiet? Hope you lot are all busy Small Shopping. :smile:

Did another 7 or 8 sales today and I'm just about finished. Over 50 now and more than I had planned to be honest and possibly 10 or so more to go before the weekend.

Done a few independent wine shops today and managed to get the shops to split the payments.
Drambuie - £20.99 over 2 spends = £10.99. Although cheap for Drambuie, Asda have it for £15, so not a massive saving.
Dow Master Blend Port - £9.99 and asked to be put through at £10 = £5. Sainsbury's have it for only £6.75, so again, only a small saving.
Tomatin Legacy malt whisky - £21.99 over 2 spends = £11.99. Tesco sometimes have this for £20 and I normally gave a coupon there (currently £4 off £20), but still a saving and the coupon can be used for something else I might waste it on food. :stuck_out_tongue:
3 x £10 butchers vouchers which will do later in the year.

So, not massive savings when comparing to offers and that's why I like Premier Stores offers and combining with Shop Small (one Stop was similar last year). But, at least the smaller shops have had over £500 from myself.
morgie
13 Dec 16 1 #303
Best I can offer is a free 2 month card - http://www.tastecard.co.uk/trial/2/muddymatches:confused:

You can start using the app version straight away, and just wait for the card in the post. Then up to you what you use in the restaurant. Double check the restaurant you wish to use it at accepts it in December if you're spending now (rather than gift vouchers).
wolfinsheepsclothing
13 Dec 16 1 #304
Went round a few in a posh part of town and walked out of most without buying anything prices were ridiculous and even with discount not worth it also hate it when there is no price on anything so just gave up on that.
Did buy a few pheasants at two for tenner I usually pay fiver for brace at the market but these were oven ready so time saving but same price so no saving as such.
Some fish shops to do at the weekend and couple more pubs maybe 2.50 pint is great.
feelthevibe
14 Dec 16 #305
I spent £13 at a cheese mongers that were on the map but the discount hasn't came up on the app. It was only on Sunday but everything else has tracked almost immediately.

What's the best way to contract AMEX and get them to rectify?
morgie
14 Dec 16 #306
super75
15 Dec 16 #307
Is there any post office in the Golders Green or Finchley area participating in the small shop ?
backinstock
15 Dec 16 1 #308
Three more today and most of the £5's have been added.
I will have three that will definitely need to be chased up and the same issue as last year with the exact same merchant. Listed though on the Shop Small directory, so no need to worry.
I've got a few to do tomorrow, maybe a couple on Saturday and possibly lunch out on Sunday. I'm hoping for a Shop Small event in the summer, if only for one weekend. That would then give a chance to top up on giftcards and vouchers to use on the last six months of 2017.
fgy
15 Dec 16 1 #309
Utterly exhausted after visiting 24 shops this afternoon, mostly successful but with the inevitable occasional crap of "We don't take Amex" and the adding of a charge sometimes
backinstock
15 Dec 16 #310
This is the first year where I haven't been charged a charge. To be fair, I've only ever been charged in a handful of shops and the most 50p. I have avoided those shops, as they were over-priced anyway. Maybe the reduced charges have helped as many are only paying around 1% now, maybe a tad more, but definitely under 2%.
fgy
15 Dec 16 1 #311
Well to be a little fair to them, the retailers only charge when I'm topping up my Oyster ( travel card in London). I suspect they make precious little on this activity and may even make a loss when a credit card, esp'ly Amex is used.

When I rarely make purchases of goods, they don't impose a charge as presumably they're earning a living from the mark up.

You mention reduced charges for Amnex merchants, and I've heard this, too, from Amex. The trouble seems to be that the idea "Amex charges excessively" is now so ingrained into people's minds that it still remains true as far as they are concerned
kirill
15 Dec 16 2 #312
JASMINE NEWS (93 COWCROSS STREET , LONDON LONDON EC1M 6BH) did oyster top up with no charge and were extremely quick. There is also DM T/A BARBICAN NEWS (54 LONG LANE BARBICAN , LONDON LONDON EC1A 9EJ) that oyster, albeit a £1 fee.

If any one would like to swap london oyster maps - PM me!
morgie
15 Dec 16 1 #313
Over 1,000 degrees.... 3 days left! :sunglasses::smile:

http://www.aejohg.com/p/rp/3b4a0b5a28bca192.png
shanesmith17
16 Dec 16 #314
Got about £50 worth of oyster top using upto 3 cards over 3 merchants.

Found a convience store to purchase bits and pieces of I.e toothpaste, hand wash etc

Popped into few pharmacy, prices are too high to even make any savings after cashback.
cuddykid
16 Dec 16 1 #315
Spent around £1000 now (for £500 back) pretty much done. Loads of Oyster cards, lots of restaurant gift vouchers and plenty of cheap eats out :stuck_out_tongue:

It would also appear that amex are no longer giving £5 when you mention a shop that doesn't accept amex. Not sure whether that is due to me emailing so many times (all were genuinely non-acceptances) though....
juggler1
16 Dec 16 #316
I've managed 9, but it was literally the best I could do in the time I had, so I need to be pleased with that :smiley:
fgy
16 Dec 16 1 #317
cuddykid...we're probably running neck and neck

I've got about a thousand , mostly on 11 Oyster cards ( will ask for a refund from tfl , making a gain of £500) and just a few purchases from shops for stock items needed over the year.

I've found it harder to keep track of purchases and credits this year as the contactless payments take time to appear on the statement, and as contactless payments don't come with a receipt (unless I remember to ask for one).

In previous years I have always received a £5 credit for shops not taking Amex, as well as the refund of charges.
This year, most customer operatives with Amex still do so, but sometimes I get a response from a certain operative (initials A S) which is not as satisfactory.

She'll say that she'll provide a response in 24-48 hours after the account has updated, but doesn't and so I have to message her again. She states wrongly that the maximum credit refund on any occasion (I provide a whole list of shops I've been to every time) is £25. She doesn't refund the charges imposed by retailers. She now asks for the uploading of receipts from shops where Amex was not accepted, which is of course ridiculous as I would not have made a purchase in that event.

Is she ( A S) the same difficult operative you're having issues with?

Also, can you name some of these restaurant which do gift vouchers please?
cuddykid
16 Dec 16 1 #318
I've been through a lot of CS reps, don't see an AS among the reps who have replied to me though.

Covent garden way:
- On the bab
- Le Garrick

Most have been local to me though (Putney)
shanesmith17
16 Dec 16 #319
Just bought 10 tubes of toothpastes and 10 bottles of handwash. Should last me few months.
hotman
17 Dec 16 #320
Anymore Oyster top up places, preferably that don't charge a fee? Thanks

Did not have any luck today. Edwardes, a bike shop on Camberwell Rd, say they will match their prices (which are sky high) with internet prices on their website but when I went there they refused. I didn't even bother asking about amex. Then the other corner shops I went to didn't take amex.

Also which shops do gift cards? It's a bit awkward going into an artisan butchers, restaurant, salon and then asking for vouchers from M&S, one4all, Argos etc.
backinstock
17 Dec 16 2 #321
The giftcards I get from the independent merchants are their own, to use later with themselves.
Basically, you are buying their goods now, with £5 off, which you can cash in later in the year. The Shop Small event in theory, lasts longer than the 16 days.
I've also had more shops state they don't take, or have never taken Amex this year.
The Amex directory is a mess! I've had several £5 credits, even when I told Amex I don't want the credit! The one merchant I know won't track, I've asked for a manual add and have been advised it can take eight weeks for credits to appear! Once all my credits are in and only the three for this particular merchant are missing, I'll get everything squared up.
Speaking to Amex, I do think there is a chance of a Shop Small event (maybe a smaller event) during the summer.
Anon
18 Dec 16 2 #322
I have been buying offers and stamps in Onestop this weekend - none are on the map but 2 out of the 3 I had instant emails when buying. On the other hand, other shops on the map closed down over a year ago or others say they don't accept AMEX, so the map is even more of a shambles this year than previous. A shame I only just discovered Onestop were still included - the offer ends later today.
Super74
18 Dec 16 #323
Hi,can you please give me the shops that do Oyster top ups in Walthamstow?
backinstock
18 Dec 16 1 #324
Thanks, I did a One Stop just before and I received the email confirmation, so I'll hit a few more later.
morgie
18 Dec 16 1 #325
Looks like it's game on with the One Stops at the 11th hour then!
kirill
18 Dec 16 #326
Can't send you a private message
hotman
18 Dec 16 #327
Maybe any small/medium shop that take amex is on the promotion even if it's not on the map.

Do you know if One Stop do Oyster top ups or phone vouchers? Or any other places that don't charge a fee. Tx
backinstock
18 Dec 16 1 #328
Did five purchases over three different One Stop shops and received an email confirmation for all five. The reason for three different shops was to test each shop for the future and as they were fairly close together, it wasn't going out of my way too much.
Open until 11pm if that helps anyone, but check before you travel.
Eight in total today and that's it.
rimalpatel007
18 Dec 16 #329
Did couple more oyster top and bits for the house today. Did not get any emails today nor yesterday.

Anyone get any emails for weekend purchases?
backinstock
18 Dec 16 #330
Yes emails ever since the 'issue' on the first weekend, which seemed to be corrected late on the Monday afternoon.
Only an issue with one merchant since and I'll chase that up during the week, once everything else has been paid.
rimalpatel007
18 Dec 16 #331
I had to use my debit card at few merchants where they refused my Amex. Could customer services help me in any way?
mspychala
18 Dec 16 #332
We had few shops that were on the map and we didn't get the statement credit for days now.
With MBNA statements you can't really tell which transaction was sucesfully redeemed.

17/12/2016 AMEX SHOP SMALL OFFER LONDON CR


Not very helpful.
morgie
18 Dec 16 #333
Yes...

"Contact Us" link from the main landing page once you've logged in, then "Email American Express" link, then "Write a Message".
backinstock
18 Dec 16 1 #334
My grand total was 65 purchases.
Less than last year, but more than expected.
Almost half is tied up in giftcards/vouchers and my freezers are full.
Plenty of alcohol.
I'm expecting 62 confirmations and then I'll chase up the 'problematic three' once all the rest have come in.

I did promise to give a credit to charity if the One Shop confirms and I'll do that regardless.
Most of the merchants are repeats from last year, but I have added some new good ones.
hotman
20 Dec 16 #335
If you got all the emails, I'd expect the credit to come eventually. If the credit still doesn't come then you could tell amex that you got x number of emails but y credits without the need for saying which was for which.

I got all the emails apart from 2 which I paid contactlessly. It seems you won't get an email for doing that but the credit should still come.
backinstock
21 Dec 16 1 #336
All my expected credits are now in, including the One Stop purchases.
That leaves a shortfall of just three (same merchant) and I'll chase those up in a few days time.

Fingers crossed for a summer Shop Small event, even if just for a single weekend.
In the meantime, work on updating the map / directory would be appreciated.
Anon
22 Dec 16 #337
Some of my Onestops have arrived, though not all :confused:. I may give it a few more days before then contacting them.
backinstock
22 Dec 16 #338
Hopefully they'll manually add, even though they aren't listed on the directory.
I contacted Amex this morning and had my missing three credits added, just in time for the statement cut-off date.
Next time, I'll try a One Stop shop on day one..................if I'm not abroad!
Anon
22 Dec 16 #339
As a number of Onestops have gone through automatically and none were on the map, there is evidence to support the assumption that Onestop were included if they want to argue. I am expecting they will just apply the credits though as they have been very helpful so far adding credits for shops on the map which didn't accept Amex (or closed down months ago!), so they have probably been told to be understanding if anyone queried missing credits

Someone in marketing will be having a serious talking to though - next time, include all small shops unless they opt out and produce a more accurate map!
hotman
22 Dec 16 #340
Did anyone get small shop credit for one4all at the Post Offices listed.

If so which ones in London were they and did they add on a fee? Tx.
morgie
20 Jan 17 #341
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ASUS G11CD Gaming PC
4 stars +361

ASUS G11CD Gaming PC

£499.97 Currys10 Oct 17
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iPhone lightning cable - super cheap (C&C)
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iPhone lightning cable - super cheap (C&C)

£1.97 Currys10 Oct 17
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Xbox One Elite controller PLUS either Middle-earth: Shadow of War or Forza Motorsport 7
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Lego Friends Calender
3 stars +168

Lego Friends Calender

£15.98
£3.99 P&P + options Amazon UK10 Oct 17
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Double LEGO VIP Points
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Double LEGO VIP Points

Lego10 Oct 17
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Graco Fast Action Fold Travel System in Bowtie Bear @ Tesco Direct (more in OP)
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Graco Fast Action Fold Travel System in Bowtie Bear @ Tesco Direct (more in OP)

£98 £200 Tesco Direct10 Oct 17
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Gears Of War 4 Steelbook Edition (Xbox One) (Open Box)
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Gears Of War 4 Steelbook Edition (Xbox One) (Open Box)

£12.99 Studentcomputers.co.uk10 Oct 17
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The Body Shop Sale Now On Plus 50% Code when you spend
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The Body Shop Sale Now On Plus 50% Code when you spend

£40
Free P&P 10 Oct 17
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