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emiratesstadium
4 Nov 1628#1
Can we just leave him on the operating table so he doesn't wake up?
r simsini
4 Nov 1627#14
Bought the Hillary edition, but it deleted all my emails.
unrealeck
4 Nov 1618#3
is there one for The Lying Criminal?
ollie87 to unrealeck
4 Nov 1615#13
Implying Donald Trump isn't those things either.
Latest comments (64)
xenophon
6 Nov 16#64
Straw man there. His posts were 99% not about Trump or Hillary they were just his usual spamming on the site of his political views, conspiracies and whinges.
I don't like Trump, I don't like Hillary mind you either.
And here is a more plausible theory, you and him one in the same, in other words multiple accounts.
gaz_marshall
6 Nov 161#63
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I'm not sure what 'buttmad' means but you should probably sit back down and let the adults do the talking.
tamaru
6 Nov 161#62
Is it difficult for you to read that many words?
This literally started because some buttmad Trump supporters came into the thread and started crying. Why don't you go and moan at them.
Oh no, your comment focusing on and attacking another user was removed, but his political views weren't? Clearly the mods are shills for Hillary!
xenophon
6 Nov 161#61
My comment about "True Focus" continually soap boxing and spamming threads with his political rants got removed! Yet his EIGHT posts of political propaganda and conspiracy were all allowed in a deal thread about a pc game.
Must have been some hugely biased mods on duty yesterday.
gaz_marshall
6 Nov 161#60
Why are you subjecting everyone to your political rant on a thread about Surgeon Simulator 80% off? Please keep your response to 50 words or less.....
tamaru
5 Nov 16#59
I'm not surprised you had to Google the definition, but here's a more specific definition in terms of how the word is actually used.
"a person who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and who does not like other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life" - Cambridge Dictionary
Pretty much sums up Trump supporters. Very unreasonable beliefs, backed by their own ignorance and intolerance of pretty much everybody.
theTrueFocus11
5 Nov 16#58
Do you like the SNP then?
They're the absolute closest to centrist.
Yet you defend tories which are far right, tried to cut child benefit, disability benefits, tax credits, cut funding to schools, privatise the NHS/TFL for profit at our expense and want the Snooper's Charter to spy on the citizens and stop people moving out of line....
So what if I write a lot?
Sometimes extra detail is required and I thought it was an imminent and important topic because yesterday they went through the 3rd reading so they're getting dangerously close to passing the horrible Snooper's Charter which is a direct threat to privacy, democracy and the right to protest. It was slightly related to the Trump/Clinton nightmare people were already talking about. I wasn't spamming.
Do you acknowledge your hypocrisy?
You call me a liar with no proof at all that ANYTHING I've said is false or misleading in any way, yet you pretend you're centrist and that I'm a "Soviet".
Anyone who calls left centre people "Soviets"
is 100% a shameful LIAR.
So I'm a Soviet now huh?
So you're a commie if you believe these things?:
-nationalisation of essential services such as education (no/cheap tuition fees) and better funding/teacher training in schools.
-nationalisation of TFL and the NHS for more efficiency and it would be cheaper without stock holders profiting from the inefficiency there currently is due to privatisation.
-The super rich should pay proportionately more tax rather than shifting most of the burden on working/middle classes which can't afford to give as much tax.
It should be fair and proportionate in terms of what an economic class can afford.
E.g. 30% tax above a certain threshold on a multi millionaire won't hurt them as much as 30% for a working class person.
-Close all legal loopholes on taxes.
-Don't give huge corporations subsidies, give small businesses a chance instead.
This stuff is just common sense and what most people want, is generally left centre to centrist.
Nothing to do with communism/Soviet/trotskyist/leninist/marxist crap.
This is a democratic country, we will never have a dictatorship. But the Snooper's Charter is threatening this fact from remaining one.
copperspock
5 Nov 161#57
'Evidence'. Good one. Whatever legitimate concerns you may have, they are drowned out by your irrational conspiracy theory nonsense.
And I'm a centrist despite you calling me far right but you still do. But then you probably believe I'm about as centrist as you are centre-left which is absolutely laughable.
It is YOU that frequently spreads propaganda but of the far left variety. You spam this site constantly. You have posted SEVEN times on these two pages spouting your own lies and conspiracy theories over and over, all I've done is post once, now twice responding to it.
Wow, from that it's clear you carry the hatred and intolerance. Like a good Soviet you try to send me into exile because I disagree with you. Block me all you want but I will continue to speak out about your soap boxing and political spamming on this site.
theTrueFocus11
5 Nov 16#54
I've already blocked you because you frequently spout far right wing propaganda and blatant lies.
So conspiracies don't exist anymore huh?
They only exist in the 50s-70s right??
We're not all naive.
And I've already told you I'm left centre (democratic socialist)
yet your narrative requires you to LIE and call me a "Marxist".
What's next? Communist, commie, Leninist, trotskyist? Dictator?
You're desperate. I don't know if you're trying to protect this corrupt gov. because it suits your possible tax dodging practices, business subsidies (socialism for corporations, rough capitalism for us peasants right?)
but I've tried to be civil with you before and you didn't reciprocate the same level of respect, honesty and politeness.
I don't care if you're on a payroll to spread propaganda or you just have a conflict of interest but I have ZERO interest in your lying/hateful/ridiculing comments so take a hint. You had your chance and blew it repeatedly.
Take your lying, hateful behind to the daily fail rag for more propaganda instructions but don't waste your time responding to me ever again unless you have a 180 degree personality flip....
or you're on a payroll.....
Goodbye and good riddance to liars.
jaydeeuk1
5 Nov 162#48
I want Trump to win just because it'll send the BBC in to even more of a lefty rage, especially after the Conservative and Brexit victories, and now their smugness has disappeared as Trump is leading the polls.
Funny how all this has happened because the left forced immigration and multiculturalism on us despite the many warnings at the time.
theTrueFocus11 to jaydeeuk1
5 Nov 16#53
Jay you may not believe me, but the BBC is barely left wing (mostly just things like caring about refugees which is common sense)
but the propaganda they sometimes show is right wing in nature, not left wing.
The BBC is guilty of ignoring third party candidates like Jill Stein, and pushing for Trump V Clinton like the rest of the corporate media (Sky News, CNN, FOX News, MSNBC, etc.)
The media pushed for Trump/Clinton EVER BEFORE the primary nominees debated!
How absurd is that? The establishment wanted these two puppets to be "the only realistic possible winners".
The BBC wears a left/centrist mask but there's many instances of right wing lies.
E.g. on the Victoria Derbyshire show, she interviewed Daniel Radcliffe and blatantly spun the "did you know Corbyn's Labour was anti Semitic?"
WOW...you can't deny that is extremely dishonest and a loaded question.
It was a deliberate hit against Corbyn.
(Since Daniel virtually endorsed Corbyn before but for some reason he's retracted it even though he said he'd vote for Labour over tory anyway)
Also look up the video of Nick Robinson smashing up an anti war sign just after the cameras went off.
No reasonable person would do that unless they're an extreme pro war right winger.
BBC also pushed other anti Corbyn/Labour stories for weeks.
The left isn't your enemy, the right has had that power for a long time (including red tory Blair/Brown/Milliband's Labour)
Right wing war mongers are to blame for the refugees fleeing war or economic exploitation. The left are just trying to help refugees.
Please research the differences between left wing and neoliberal because some people get them confused.
E.g. Hillary is a neo liberal (which is actually very right wing, corporate, war mongering, etc.)
and Trump is also very right wing.
Along with both being liars, no wonder they're the most unfavorable candidates in U.S. history.
theTrueFocus11
5 Nov 16#52
I hope you're joking...
If you can't see the official story is flawed after seeing the evidence, I don't know what to tell you.
Just go back to your Facebook/TV life while big brother legislation gets covertly passed.
Remaining ignorant of the real state of the world is your choice, but please don't spread this attitude....there's already too many people unaware of how corrupt most governments are.
This world would be pretty much free of poverty, war, inequality, crime, etc. If the governments actually had good policies in place but no....the puppeteers and corporate lobbyists who bribe those in charge, they're too short sighted and selfish to let everyone reach their potential.
xenophon
5 Nov 16#51
Wow, so this has been brought in now. :confused:
Nohm
5 Nov 16#50
Bought thanks!
deany76
5 Nov 161#49
Thanks for posting.
The idea of him as POTUS is terrifying beyond words.
red23
5 Nov 161#47
yeah.
tonksie
5 Nov 161#46
Shouldn't this be on the "Political Rant" tab?
ZapGod
4 Nov 16#29
Hilary Clinton is in the pocket of the banks and Donald Trump is a buffoon.
Poor America
donbarney to ZapGod
5 Nov 161#45
it is a very embarrassing time for america whether they notice it or not, i think either choice is a loss,
Trump is more susceptible to starting the next world war tho i can see it
blackster
4 Nov 163#18
I'll buy when the James Corden DLC comes out
chrisfdh to blackster
5 Nov 16#44
That one comes with a wide load sticker
MokaOnlyCheese
5 Nov 16#43
great game by the way
copperspock
5 Nov 16#42
..it's probably for the best :smile:.
sparkeeh
5 Nov 16#41
Anyone who is umming and arring about this, download Idlemaster, leave it on overnight, it will generate enough trading cards that if sold will make enough money to buy this (providing you have a decent steam collection of games)
MeneerSmith
5 Nov 16#39
This picture in the deal looks like he is about to kill trump with the scalpel.
I hope Trump wins the election in the USA btw as it will be glorious watching the world burn. If Hilldog wins the same burning will happen but it wont be on TV. :P
machomansavage to MeneerSmith
5 Nov 161#40
GOD HELP IF TRUMPS ELECTED............ WW3 BYEEEEEEEEEE WORLDDDDDDDDDDDDD
machomansavage
5 Nov 16#36
theTrueFocus11 to machomansavage
5 Nov 16#38
Read mine! :wink:
theTrueFocus11
5 Nov 161#37
She's a medical doctor so your outlandish propaganda (nothing to do with Jill's actual positions)
is a big fat fail.
Either you know it's propaganda and ran with it anyway or you're ignorant.
If the latter, I don't blame you too much;
many media sources online are corrupt and biased towards perspective that favour their sponsors, owners, etc.
Jill isn't some high on drugs hippie.
She's basically just a female version of Bernie Sanders.
Besides, even if you believed this propaganda crap you just wrote,
you would ACTUALLY complain, when
there's an idiot egocentric businessman and a war hawk running??
We're lucky people like Jill can even run.
They won't show her on debates because talking policies would destroy Trump/Clinton because their policies suck lol.
And just because she's against criminalising softer drugs, doesn't mean she's a druggy for goodness sake.
Bernie had the same policy.
The "war on drugs" is propaganda just like the "war on terror".
A Nixon official admitted that the CIA smuggled drugs into black and anti war hippy neighborhoods, so that their "enemies/opponents" (anti war people and black people)
would be more complacent and easy to criminalise.
Hence the private prison incarceration system is so successful with more criminals in prison than any other country on Earth.
I don't like drugs but I don't think it should be criminalised like that.
So many families have been ruined with the man of the house for example, being prosecuted for years just for doing weed which apparently is less dangerous than alcohol.
Which news source told you Jill was a pseudoscience druggy?
I assure you it's propaganda.
She's a medical doctor and political activist.
theTrueFocus11
5 Nov 16#35
While that's mostly true,
you could have said the same thing more politely. :man:
Anyway TL;DR The government wants to secretly pass the Snooper's Charter (aka the Investigative Powers Bill).
It would allow the guberment to install malware/spy on you via your phone, tablet, laptop, webcam, microphone, record what you type on your computer, browsing history, smartphone, texts, emails, possibly even photos on your computer and phone, etc.
The fact ISPs may be forced to store your web history (12 months worth at a time)
would become a vulnerability to malicious hackers too.
We have to oppose this rubbish.
Otherwise our "democracy" is in jeopardy and our ability to protest.
(The government/secret agencies can blackmail you, censor or prosecute you just for attending a protest for example.)
And the "anti-terrorism" narrative is an excuse as even if they weren't funded by western agencies, Edward Snowden has said mass surveillance is extremely ineffective in "preventing terrorism".
See George Orwell's 1984.
STOP the Snooper's Charter.:man:
They're getting close to passing it. :confused:
sm-1991
5 Nov 161#34
Omg lol Jill stein?!? Really?
Why yes! let's all heal ourselves with stones and inject ourselves to forget about the worlds problems (!)
fireman1
5 Nov 166#33
What a ridiculously long comment that no one will even read.
freezingheat
4 Nov 164#32
bigot ˈbɪɡət/ noun a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.
So anyone who disagrees with you is an un-educated inbred hick, and you call other people bigot?
ollie87
4 Nov 161#31
Trolls gonna troll.
tamaru
4 Nov 164#30
SMH at the amount of bigots in this thread. Classic Trump supporter tactic: Deny all of the factual reasons for him being a terrible candidate for the job, and an awful human being in general, and hope no one else realizes.
Problem is it's November 4th and anyone with the slightest bit of education is voting Clinton.
Although it's hard to rule out the inbred hick vote.
ollie87
4 Nov 161#28
Hahahahahahahaha. You're the reason this planet is ****.
imagineS
4 Nov 162#27
Why would I want to save this clown/lunatic life? Not worth it
Idiots will follow him cause there dumb and blind just like him.
Yeah, in my opinion they're two sides of the same establishment coin.
Trump = David CaMORON
Clinton = Mad May ( or Theresa May Day! May Day!)
They're seriously pushing (fairly secretly to avoid confrontation/criticism) for the Snooper's Charter and we just can't let them or we're screwed.
The tories want big brother, (as foreshadowed by Orwell's 1984) with the Snooper's Charter (Investigatory Powers Bill)
would allow the corrupt government to install malware and spy on us via our phones, tablets, laptops, webcams, microphones, smart TVs, record what you type on your PC keyboard, cause HUGE vulnerabilities in security for malevolent hackers to hack stored ISP data, etc.
They pretend it's for anti-terrorism purposes but when you realise who is actually funding the scum, it's clear as day like the link between the inside job 9/11 attacks and the NSA garbage, invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, Syria.....
($2 Trillion dollars disappeared a day before 9/11...that's all you need to know, let alone building 7 came down EXACTLY like a controlled demolition)
Edward Snowden has told us that mass surveillance is ineffective as stacks are placed on top of each other so it becomes a needle in a very noisy hay stack of data of millions of people all the time.
But with a search function of specific identities, they can find dirt on you, your past history, browsing history, photos, texts, emails, whatever the hell they can get their hands on....and if you go against the government, if you attend a protest, expect blackmail or censorship. (Or prosecution)
Blackmail by the NSA has already occurred if you look up officials who investigated dodgy stuff and then had their reputations ruined by the NSA leaking stuff you did a long time ago or that you once paid for hookers, that you have a weird browsing history, that you have photos of your ex, etc.
The corporate empire is not dead, and it still pretends to be a democracy.
We need to oppose the Snooper's Charter just as we would with the horrendous TTIP trade agreement.
BTW the left centre Jill Stein (the only honest/non corrupt candidate in the race since Bernie left)
would easily win but the media
has pushed "Trump V Clinton"
even at the beginning when nominees hadn't even debated yet!!!
Presidents selected rather than elected??
If they U.S. media shut up with their Trump/Clinton propaganda and deliberately flawed polls (e.g. polls conducted on democratic/republican households which excludes the 40% + of legible voters who are independents/3rd party)
then maybe the Americans wouldn't be brainwashed/scared to vote outside their corrupt two party system and vote who they actually want.
As far as I'm concerned, there's not much difference between Trump/Clinton.
Clinton would flip flop on TPP, wants to invade Iran and bait a war with Russia with her no fly zone "shoot down anything that isn't American" foreign policy (which is the dumbest thing you can do)
and Trump flip flops on many policies so he's a frustrating wild card....But honestly excluding the tiniest glimmer of hope, he's likely to try to make the U.S. "compete with China"
that means oppression of Americans similar to that of Chinese workers....and also low product safety, fewer product quality regulations, etc. some red tape is better left alone.
Jill Stein is the only way out of the nightmare but the mentally ILL corporate/banking puppeteers of the U.S. shadow government and puppet government prefer not to mention that choice through the media as it doesn't benefit them.
Even Corbyn and Abbot have been spied on by the Tory government....what the hell??
Surely that's illegal?
Our right to freedom and protest depends on our ability to resist the Snooper's Charter.
Sorry for the focused comment...But I considered it an imminent and important topic slightly related to the Trump/Clinton nightmare.
I think I heard only 18% of voters voted in the primaries (and that's EVEN AFTER all the MASS voter suppression in several states, shredded ballots, switched registrations, dropped registrations, dead people apparently registered and voted...)
but there's at least 40% who would go 3rd party/independent AT LEAST
(since Trump/Clinton are actually the least popular presidential candidates in U.S. history and only got this far because of rigging and media collusion/corruption which was confirmed via leaked DNC emails for example)
Let's hope the Americans don't fall for the two party trap this time.
BTW Gary Johnson is also 3rd party but he's a corrupt right winger who supports TTP (terrible trade agreement that goes against workers rights, allows corporations to sue the guberment if their bloody policies impact the scummy corporations' bloody profits!! etc.)
And I thought Halloween already finished....:confused:
Please monitor the situation on the Snooper's Charter and let's stop it ASAP.
unrealeck
4 Nov 161#23
In the context of the importance of the lie with regards to running for the seat of pretty much the most powerful person on the planet, no, I am not aware of him fitting either of those things.
Asked who? Is there proof of it?
unrealeck
4 Nov 1618#3
is there one for The Lying Criminal?
ollie87 to unrealeck
4 Nov 1615#13
Implying Donald Trump isn't those things either.
copperspock to unrealeck
4 Nov 163#22
The only advantage Trump has is that he has no previous political experience. If he was in the game as long as Clinton, I'm certain he would have done a lot worse. Remember this is the guy who asked why they couldn't use nukes.
mscAUser
4 Nov 162#21
can you slit the Donald's throat?
W1zz
4 Nov 162#15
For a moment there I read it as Sturgeon simulator with Trump.
/shudders
Gollywood to W1zz
4 Nov 161#20
Or the Sturgeon stimulator :confused:
Godspeed
4 Nov 165#19
garygdicker
4 Nov 161#17
can i wheel him into eye theatres and remove his catarrachs??
kelsbels12
4 Nov 161#16
I really don't like any of em
r simsini
4 Nov 1627#14
Bought the Hillary edition, but it deleted all my emails.
SpaceyKevin
4 Nov 161#12
sparkeeh
4 Nov 16#11
DLC is also 80 percent off (39p) for anyone that has the base game.
deany76
4 Nov 164#10
Lets face it next Tuesday approx 11.59pm GMT after Florida is announced what ever happens after that and what has happened before the word farce springs to mind.
Neither are worthy of such responsibilities POTUS carry and the result effects us all indirectly.
2016 is a historic year for politics.
kelsbels12
4 Nov 163#8
wouldn't save him if he was on fire, stupid wotsit!
nw104hh to kelsbels12
4 Nov 165#9
You'd rather save Hillary... good luck with that!
Predikuesi
4 Nov 1613#7
OOS now, Hillary bought the lot for her fellow crooks.
nw104hh
4 Nov 1610#6
I'll wait for Hillary...
chaywa
4 Nov 164#5
Personally, I'll wait for the Katie Hopkins and Piers Morgan DLC
mcintg
4 Nov 16#4
It would make me feel all stabby
emiratesstadium
4 Nov 1628#1
Can we just leave him on the operating table so he doesn't wake up?
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Don’t be a bad hombre, and make your vote count. At the time of writing, the tickometer is showing that 41% of voters have given Trump a heart of gold, while 59% have awarded him a heart of stone.
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I don't like Trump, I don't like Hillary mind you either.
And here is a more plausible theory, you and him one in the same, in other words multiple accounts.
This literally started because some buttmad Trump supporters came into the thread and started crying. Why don't you go and moan at them.
Oh no, your comment focusing on and attacking another user was removed, but his political views weren't? Clearly the mods are shills for Hillary!
Must have been some hugely biased mods on duty yesterday.
"a person who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and who does not like other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life" - Cambridge Dictionary
Pretty much sums up Trump supporters. Very unreasonable beliefs, backed by their own ignorance and intolerance of pretty much everybody.
They're the absolute closest to centrist.
Yet you defend tories which are far right, tried to cut child benefit, disability benefits, tax credits, cut funding to schools, privatise the NHS/TFL for profit at our expense and want the Snooper's Charter to spy on the citizens and stop people moving out of line....
So what if I write a lot?
Sometimes extra detail is required and I thought it was an imminent and important topic because yesterday they went through the 3rd reading so they're getting dangerously close to passing the horrible Snooper's Charter which is a direct threat to privacy, democracy and the right to protest. It was slightly related to the Trump/Clinton nightmare people were already talking about. I wasn't spamming.
Do you acknowledge your hypocrisy?
You call me a liar with no proof at all that ANYTHING I've said is false or misleading in any way, yet you pretend you're centrist and that I'm a "Soviet".
Anyone who calls left centre people "Soviets"
is 100% a shameful LIAR.
So I'm a Soviet now huh?
So you're a commie if you believe these things?:
-nationalisation of essential services such as education (no/cheap tuition fees) and better funding/teacher training in schools.
-nationalisation of TFL and the NHS for more efficiency and it would be cheaper without stock holders profiting from the inefficiency there currently is due to privatisation.
-The super rich should pay proportionately more tax rather than shifting most of the burden on working/middle classes which can't afford to give as much tax.
It should be fair and proportionate in terms of what an economic class can afford.
E.g. 30% tax above a certain threshold on a multi millionaire won't hurt them as much as 30% for a working class person.
-Close all legal loopholes on taxes.
-Don't give huge corporations subsidies, give small businesses a chance instead.
This stuff is just common sense and what most people want, is generally left centre to centrist.
Nothing to do with communism/Soviet/trotskyist/leninist/marxist crap.
This is a democratic country, we will never have a dictatorship. But the Snooper's Charter is threatening this fact from remaining one.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/amp49/1227842/
http://www.skeptical-science.com/critical-thinking/scientific-proof-911-inside-job/
And I'm a centrist despite you calling me far right but you still do. But then you probably believe I'm about as centrist as you are centre-left which is absolutely laughable.
It is YOU that frequently spreads propaganda but of the far left variety. You spam this site constantly. You have posted SEVEN times on these two pages spouting your own lies and conspiracy theories over and over, all I've done is post once, now twice responding to it.
Wow, from that it's clear you carry the hatred and intolerance. Like a good Soviet you try to send me into exile because I disagree with you. Block me all you want but I will continue to speak out about your soap boxing and political spamming on this site.
So conspiracies don't exist anymore huh?
They only exist in the 50s-70s right??
We're not all naive.
And I've already told you I'm left centre (democratic socialist)
yet your narrative requires you to LIE and call me a "Marxist".
What's next? Communist, commie, Leninist, trotskyist? Dictator?
You're desperate. I don't know if you're trying to protect this corrupt gov. because it suits your possible tax dodging practices, business subsidies (socialism for corporations, rough capitalism for us peasants right?)
but I've tried to be civil with you before and you didn't reciprocate the same level of respect, honesty and politeness.
I don't care if you're on a payroll to spread propaganda or you just have a conflict of interest but I have ZERO interest in your lying/hateful/ridiculing comments so take a hint. You had your chance and blew it repeatedly.
Take your lying, hateful behind to the daily fail rag for more propaganda instructions but don't waste your time responding to me ever again unless you have a 180 degree personality flip....
or you're on a payroll.....
Goodbye and good riddance to liars.
Funny how all this has happened because the left forced immigration and multiculturalism on us despite the many warnings at the time.
but the propaganda they sometimes show is right wing in nature, not left wing.
The BBC is guilty of ignoring third party candidates like Jill Stein, and pushing for Trump V Clinton like the rest of the corporate media (Sky News, CNN, FOX News, MSNBC, etc.)
The media pushed for Trump/Clinton EVER BEFORE the primary nominees debated!
How absurd is that? The establishment wanted these two puppets to be "the only realistic possible winners".
The BBC wears a left/centrist mask but there's many instances of right wing lies.
E.g. on the Victoria Derbyshire show, she interviewed Daniel Radcliffe and blatantly spun the "did you know Corbyn's Labour was anti Semitic?"
WOW...you can't deny that is extremely dishonest and a loaded question.
It was a deliberate hit against Corbyn.
(Since Daniel virtually endorsed Corbyn before but for some reason he's retracted it even though he said he'd vote for Labour over tory anyway)
Also look up the video of Nick Robinson smashing up an anti war sign just after the cameras went off.
No reasonable person would do that unless they're an extreme pro war right winger.
BBC also pushed other anti Corbyn/Labour stories for weeks.
The left isn't your enemy, the right has had that power for a long time (including red tory Blair/Brown/Milliband's Labour)
Right wing war mongers are to blame for the refugees fleeing war or economic exploitation. The left are just trying to help refugees.
Please research the differences between left wing and neoliberal because some people get them confused.
E.g. Hillary is a neo liberal (which is actually very right wing, corporate, war mongering, etc.)
and Trump is also very right wing.
Along with both being liars, no wonder they're the most unfavorable candidates in U.S. history.
If you can't see the official story is flawed after seeing the evidence, I don't know what to tell you.
Just go back to your Facebook/TV life while big brother legislation gets covertly passed.
Remaining ignorant of the real state of the world is your choice, but please don't spread this attitude....there's already too many people unaware of how corrupt most governments are.
This world would be pretty much free of poverty, war, inequality, crime, etc. If the governments actually had good policies in place but no....the puppeteers and corporate lobbyists who bribe those in charge, they're too short sighted and selfish to let everyone reach their potential.
The idea of him as POTUS is terrifying beyond words.
Poor America
Trump is more susceptible to starting the next world war tho i can see it
..it's probably for the best :smile:.
I hope Trump wins the election in the USA btw as it will be glorious watching the world burn. If Hilldog wins the same burning will happen but it wont be on TV. :P
:wink:
is a big fat fail.
Either you know it's propaganda and ran with it anyway or you're ignorant.
If the latter, I don't blame you too much;
many media sources online are corrupt and biased towards perspective that favour their sponsors, owners, etc.
Jill isn't some high on drugs hippie.
She's basically just a female version of Bernie Sanders.
Besides, even if you believed this propaganda crap you just wrote,
you would ACTUALLY complain, when
there's an idiot egocentric businessman and a war hawk running??
We're lucky people like Jill can even run.
They won't show her on debates because talking policies would destroy Trump/Clinton because their policies suck lol.
And just because she's against criminalising softer drugs, doesn't mean she's a druggy for goodness sake.
Bernie had the same policy.
The "war on drugs" is propaganda just like the "war on terror".
A Nixon official admitted that the CIA smuggled drugs into black and anti war hippy neighborhoods, so that their "enemies/opponents" (anti war people and black people)
would be more complacent and easy to criminalise.
Hence the private prison incarceration system is so successful with more criminals in prison than any other country on Earth.
I don't like drugs but I don't think it should be criminalised like that.
So many families have been ruined with the man of the house for example, being prosecuted for years just for doing weed which apparently is less dangerous than alcohol.
Which news source told you Jill was a pseudoscience druggy?
I assure you it's propaganda.
She's a medical doctor and political activist.
While that's mostly true,
you could have said the same thing more politely. :man:
Anyway TL;DR The government wants to secretly pass the Snooper's Charter (aka the Investigative Powers Bill).
It would allow the guberment to install malware/spy on you via your phone, tablet, laptop, webcam, microphone, record what you type on your computer, browsing history, smartphone, texts, emails, possibly even photos on your computer and phone, etc.
The fact ISPs may be forced to store your web history (12 months worth at a time)
would become a vulnerability to malicious hackers too.
We have to oppose this rubbish.
Otherwise our "democracy" is in jeopardy and our ability to protest.
(The government/secret agencies can blackmail you, censor or prosecute you just for attending a protest for example.)
And the "anti-terrorism" narrative is an excuse as even if they weren't funded by western agencies, Edward Snowden has said mass surveillance is extremely ineffective in "preventing terrorism".
See George Orwell's 1984.
STOP the Snooper's Charter.:man:
They're getting close to passing it. :confused:
Why yes! let's all heal ourselves with stones and inject ourselves to forget about the worlds problems (!)
So anyone who disagrees with you is an un-educated inbred hick, and you call other people bigot?
Classic Trump supporter tactic: Deny all of the factual reasons for him being a terrible candidate for the job, and an awful human being in general, and hope no one else realizes.
Problem is it's November 4th and anyone with the slightest bit of education is voting Clinton.
Although it's hard to rule out the inbred hick vote.
Idiots will follow him cause there dumb and blind just like him.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Surgeon-Simulator-Anniversary-Edition-Steam-Key-for-PC-Mac-or-Linux-/201696020945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCHQPCXbt1w
Trump = David CaMORON
Clinton = Mad May ( or Theresa May Day! May Day!)
They're seriously pushing (fairly secretly to avoid confrontation/criticism) for the Snooper's Charter and we just can't let them or we're screwed.
The tories want big brother, (as foreshadowed by Orwell's 1984) with the Snooper's Charter (Investigatory Powers Bill)
would allow the corrupt government to install malware and spy on us via our phones, tablets, laptops, webcams, microphones, smart TVs, record what you type on your PC keyboard, cause HUGE vulnerabilities in security for malevolent hackers to hack stored ISP data, etc.
They pretend it's for anti-terrorism purposes but when you realise who is actually funding the scum, it's clear as day like the link between the inside job 9/11 attacks and the NSA garbage, invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, Syria.....
($2 Trillion dollars disappeared a day before 9/11...that's all you need to know, let alone building 7 came down EXACTLY like a controlled demolition)
Edward Snowden has told us that mass surveillance is ineffective as stacks are placed on top of each other so it becomes a needle in a very noisy hay stack of data of millions of people all the time.
But with a search function of specific identities, they can find dirt on you, your past history, browsing history, photos, texts, emails, whatever the hell they can get their hands on....and if you go against the government, if you attend a protest, expect blackmail or censorship. (Or prosecution)
Blackmail by the NSA has already occurred if you look up officials who investigated dodgy stuff and then had their reputations ruined by the NSA leaking stuff you did a long time ago or that you once paid for hookers, that you have a weird browsing history, that you have photos of your ex, etc.
The corporate empire is not dead, and it still pretends to be a democracy.
We need to oppose the Snooper's Charter just as we would with the horrendous TTIP trade agreement.
BTW the left centre Jill Stein (the only honest/non corrupt candidate in the race since Bernie left)
would easily win but the media
has pushed "Trump V Clinton"
even at the beginning when nominees hadn't even debated yet!!!
Presidents selected rather than elected??
If they U.S. media shut up with their Trump/Clinton propaganda and deliberately flawed polls (e.g. polls conducted on democratic/republican households which excludes the 40% + of legible voters who are independents/3rd party)
then maybe the Americans wouldn't be brainwashed/scared to vote outside their corrupt two party system and vote who they actually want.
As far as I'm concerned, there's not much difference between Trump/Clinton.
Clinton would flip flop on TPP, wants to invade Iran and bait a war with Russia with her no fly zone "shoot down anything that isn't American" foreign policy (which is the dumbest thing you can do)
and Trump flip flops on many policies so he's a frustrating wild card....But honestly excluding the tiniest glimmer of hope, he's likely to try to make the U.S. "compete with China"
that means oppression of Americans similar to that of Chinese workers....and also low product safety, fewer product quality regulations, etc. some red tape is better left alone.
Jill Stein is the only way out of the nightmare but the mentally ILL corporate/banking puppeteers of the U.S. shadow government and puppet government prefer not to mention that choice through the media as it doesn't benefit them.
Even Corbyn and Abbot have been spied on by the Tory government....what the hell??
Surely that's illegal?
Our right to freedom and protest depends on our ability to resist the Snooper's Charter.
Sorry for the focused comment...But I considered it an imminent and important topic slightly related to the Trump/Clinton nightmare.
I think I heard only 18% of voters voted in the primaries (and that's EVEN AFTER all the MASS voter suppression in several states, shredded ballots, switched registrations, dropped registrations, dead people apparently registered and voted...)
but there's at least 40% who would go 3rd party/independent AT LEAST
(since Trump/Clinton are actually the least popular presidential candidates in U.S. history and only got this far because of rigging and media collusion/corruption which was confirmed via leaked DNC emails for example)
Let's hope the Americans don't fall for the two party trap this time.
BTW Gary Johnson is also 3rd party but he's a corrupt right winger who supports TTP (terrible trade agreement that goes against workers rights, allows corporations to sue the guberment if their bloody policies impact the scummy corporations' bloody profits!! etc.)
And I thought Halloween already finished....:confused:
Please monitor the situation on the Snooper's Charter and let's stop it ASAP.
Asked who? Is there proof of it?
/shudders
Neither are worthy of such responsibilities POTUS carry and the result effects us all indirectly.
2016 is a historic year for politics.