Following on from the £13 deal for a virtually identical heater from B&Q this one can be had for just under £12 delivered.
Top comments
bbdom
19 Nov 167#1
Before the trolls start trolling ...
Yes it is another heater
No it is not any more or less economical to run than your 2kW fan heater - 2kW of energy goes in, 2kW of heat comes out.
Yes a gas boiler / radiators is cheaper to run - not if it has broken down and you need some emergency heat.
Yes you can use a heat pump system to get up to 5kW of heat out of 1kW of electricity but they aren't £12 ....
2265 units in stock at time of posting. Free delivery for any orders over £5 at CPC. Good for keeping as an emergency in case your main heating breaks down.
KINGYFUN
19 Nov 165#8
Got one for the wife...... her man cave is always cold.
All comments (47)
bbdom
19 Nov 167#1
Before the trolls start trolling ...
Yes it is another heater
No it is not any more or less economical to run than your 2kW fan heater - 2kW of energy goes in, 2kW of heat comes out.
Yes a gas boiler / radiators is cheaper to run - not if it has broken down and you need some emergency heat.
Yes you can use a heat pump system to get up to 5kW of heat out of 1kW of electricity but they aren't £12 ....
2265 units in stock at time of posting. Free delivery for any orders over £5 at CPC. Good for keeping as an emergency in case your main heating breaks down.
shadey12 to bbdom
19 Nov 16#2
I'm sure the trolls will think of something dumb and just plain wrong to say.
superspongebob to bbdom
19 Nov 16#3
I use a similar heater to keep my man cave warm in the winter. If the rest of the family are not in for the day then I don't need to turn on the central heating so these are perfectly adequate for just keeping a small single room comfortable in the winter.
MrHot to bbdom
19 Nov 161#31
Also handy if you want to run one for 10 minutes instead of the boiler heating up the pipes and rad only to have not made the room warmer until you leave and the heat is still mostly in the rad.
lesdenn
19 Nov 16#4
Ordered, many thanks.
Haylhoo
19 Nov 16#5
these are great for camping (if you have electric hookup.... obviously!) we were using one in our awning in September and it did a great job in the cold evenings
ciarandanielbyrne1
19 Nov 16#6
Better in my opinion to purchase one with a built in timer. Then you can make the most of your heat/cost ratio. Think about it........
COMARANTZ to ciarandanielbyrne1
19 Nov 162#10
CPC also offer a fan assisted turbo version with cold air option AND a 24 hour timer. It is listed in my copy of the CPC winter sale catalogue as HG0091703 @ £16.20 + VAT = £19.44. Ensure you use this code ending WITH 03, because the main catalogue listing is HG00917 for which the same product is priced @ £19.51 + VAT = £23.41 ! So is it worth up to double the price of the basic version ?
Dgill2412
19 Nov 16#7
Spent an hour yesterday cleaning an old heater to use in my man cave and £6 for wall mounting brackets. Great deal but too late in my case.
KINGYFUN
19 Nov 165#8
Got one for the wife...... her man cave is always cold.
red23 to KINGYFUN
19 Nov 162#9
just blast a load up her, that'll soon provide it with some central heating.
Trust me get a timed one. The way they rip you off you could accidentally leave one on in a room and you've used £5 in a day. I know to my cost. Ahaa
Disco Dave
19 Nov 161#12
Watch that electric meter spin
bbdom
19 Nov 16#13
11p per kWh * 2kW = 22p / hour to run
Multiply that by 24 hours and it works out at £5.50 per 24 hours if you have it running at full whack.
You could always run it at a lower wattage - 750W would cost you around £2 for a 24 hour period.
This is assuming you have them maxed out and on full. If you run them on the thermostat, depending on how hot you want your room, they won't be at 100% duty.
dpmcm21
19 Nov 16#14
Or just get this one and buy a timer for £2 and plug it into that! :smiley:
Did you not take notice of my message above. You have listed the main catalogue price link. The promo price product code is HG0091703 !
ciarandanielbyrne1
19 Nov 161#16
Good thinking Batman yes do that
Proveright
19 Nov 16#17
This is a good price. All the diy stores etc sell a similar heater only for more money
Fan heaters make a racket, these convectors are portable to heat in any room or even keep a small flat warm with just one on.The thermostat can be set low when you go out.
Even you only want one for emergencies, at this price buy two. They had the same deal last year, but the rest of the year it is not always at this price.
Proveright
19 Nov 16#18
As a side note all those who moan about the cost of electricity check out a gravity generator . Plenty ofvids out there how to make your own to provide just a led light at present but the idea is brilliant. Have not found the link yet who makes them ready built.
therealjohnpeat
19 Nov 16#19
I generally agree with the "just get an external timer" suggestion - but there is a potential downside to those you should be aware of.
Some devices DO NOT LIKE being powered on/off via the mains - high-drain appliances (like this) especially. It generally shortens their lives (switches get burned-out and elements can die)
At these prices you probably don't care but I've experienced first-hand a situation where warranty/return was refused because the device had been used in this fashion (it's easy to tell IF someone looks - most of the time no-one looks, of course)
Note: the manual will almost certainly tell you NOT to disconnect/connect mains power without turning-off the device first - a timer does EXACTLY that
bbdom to therealjohnpeat
19 Nov 161#22
The elements on these are cycled on and off by the thermostat so no issue with that. The switches won't get burned out either as they are not being used - if anything it will prolong their life.
Unplugging an appliance while it is on is generally not a good idea I'd agree. Many devices are inductive loads which can cause back EMF and risk of a small spark from the plug when pulled out. This is a very very small risk of shock as well. You can also find with other appliances that they have a RF/EMI filter on them which leaves a small cap charged - the amount of times I've got a jolt from something I've just unplugged (I'm an electronics engineer by trade).
However ...... switching one of these on / off via a timer a couple of times a day should be perfectly safe. The better timers have zero crossing triacs in which only allow the switch to turn on when the mains is at zero potential in it's 50Hz cycle. Even the cheaper timers should be able to handle this without a problem (as long as they are rated for 13 amps).
I will say however that when you use one of these with a timer, set it to come on, wait for 10 minutes or so then check the plugs and timer to see if any are getting warm or hot. If they are then discontinue use immediately.
Also try not to use these with extension leads and never use them with multiplugs - the amount of melted equipment I've had returned to our department from overloaded sockets is scary !
COMARANTZ
19 Nov 161#20
A digital timer, although usually more expensive, is better, easier to program with timer on and off to one minute and multiple settings over a 7 day period. CPC PL1511603 is on promo to 16-12-16 priced @ £3.40 + VAT = £4.08. CPC also have the analogue timers on promo the cheapest from £1.49 + VAT = £1.79 is PL1511703.
dpmcm21
19 Nov 161#21
Perfect! I prefer the analogue timers meself.
ciarandanielbyrne1
19 Nov 16#23
Just give us the link please bud I cant remember all the details on my phone
ciarandanielbyrne1
19 Nov 16#24
If your in the know. What is the best cheapish one?
megrevolg
19 Nov 16#25
bargain just what I was after thanks. heat added
bbdom
19 Nov 161#26
Heaters or timers ?
If you're talking timers, without buying one and dissecting it I wouldn't be able to tell you. As long as you buy it from a reputable retailer you should be fine as they make sure they conform to all relevant standards (and if they are found not to recall them !)
A fan heater will mix the air more effectively so you get a more even heat in the room. The downside is the fan it a bit noisy and they also blow dust around.
A convection heater is silent (apart from the click of the thermostat) but heat is a bit more localised - they aren't horrendous though and the air soon mixes in the room anyway.
Infrared heaters will give you a feeling of immediate warmth as they heat the objects in the room (including you) however if you're not directly in view of them you can feel a bit chilly !
Any timer from CPC capable of switching 13A should be man enough for the job. I'd personally go for a digital one.
ciarandanielbyrne1
19 Nov 16#27
Cheers bbdom
jmpittaway
19 Nov 16#28
these heat up quickly ! we have one perfect to heat 1 room instead of heating whole house
peter1969uk
19 Nov 16#29
Worth buying if your on the British gas deal, which gives you free electricity for Sat or Sun.
EveshamLad to peter1969uk
19 Nov 16#30
Martin Lewis is not a fan of that tariff, sorry.
"If your energy use is split evenly between gas and electricity, even a back-of-the-envelope calculation shows the only people who this would be cheapest for those who use more than 80% of their electricity during the free hours. Frankly even if you did all the week's washing, dishwashing and everything else that you could save, you wouldn’t come close to doing this."
sam, a couple of weeks ago you said everything from CPC was rubbish and hadn't passed UK safety tests,
you really should remember what you say,
otherwise no one takes you seriously,
oh wait.....
peter1969uk
20 Nov 16#33
As I said, worth it for those already on that deal. Luckily for me, I'm in the low percent that this deal works for.
Firemountain
20 Nov 16#34
Great price.. sadly im in an all electric place with ancient storage heaters so these are my go to solution... the place is so old it's like an ice box at the best of times. One I bought from Argos sparked and burst into flames in front of me... so I'm a tad wary to leave them on timer mode ( and they all do say not to plug them into wall timers ) I was just glad it happened in the room I was in otherwise could have been way worse situation.
This is a great price for them ! :smiley:
sam_of_london
20 Nov 16#35
This model is much better as has timer and fan. I use similar timer/fan model I bought from Aldi last year for £12. Also does not tell the length of the cable anywhere in the listing. If the cable is too small, it becomes very difficult to use heaters as it is dangerous to use a multi socket extension with a heater.
deadduck_145
20 Nov 16#36
paid £25 for mine and use it for a small cafe. comes on for 2 hours before opening and warms the place lovely. but as i said, its for a small place so don't think it will be suitable for a large room\1
HJboss
20 Nov 16#37
This is a good heater as I got it a few years ago and it'still works flawlessly
Keeps my flat warm and heats up fats
Kammykay
20 Nov 16#38
Does this have the fan in the corner?
ant1g
20 Nov 16#40
I bought one of these last year, they are really good! Also worth buying a programmable timer switch from Amazon to use with this
sam_of_london
20 Nov 16#41
I never said everything from cpc was rubbish. You are fake like always.
shadey12
20 Nov 16#42
ok sam
COMARANTZ
22 Nov 16#43
1 in stock @ 02.20 AM. Now SOLD OUT @ 02.25 AM Tuesday.
Dangerous_Dave2k
22 Nov 16#44
Well, it's arrived. Not even a fan! Maybe I was being unrealistic in my expectations, but this thing weighs about as much as a packet of crisps, and has uncovered wires inside a matter of inches from the heating brush thing. Is this definitely safe? Seems dodgy AF to me.
bbdom to Dangerous_Dave2k
22 Nov 16#45
They are incredibly light - all they have are a couple of elements ./ thermostat and switches. And as discussed previously they don't come with a fan (they are a convector heater).
Got a picture of the exposed wires ?
EveshamLad
22 Nov 16#46
Now showing as £16.20 Inc. VAT
I think this one has EXPIRED!
Quick, get those HOT, HOT, HOT votes in now!
COMARANTZ
23 Nov 16#47
Just to make it clear, CPC often list products with duplicate pricing, the regular price and the promo price, at the same time. This is the situation here. The £11.94 price has increased to £16.20, but the same item is available with the product code HG0091603 priced @ £13.98 ! As an alternative there is also the option of the same unit with a turbo fan and cold blow function priced @ £19.44. ENSURE THE LAST TWO DIGITS ARE INCLUDED, because that is what gives the promo price ! The prices listed here for these two products are valid until 16-12-16.
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Opening post
Top comments
Yes it is another heater
No it is not any more or less economical to run than your 2kW fan heater - 2kW of energy goes in, 2kW of heat comes out.
Yes a gas boiler / radiators is cheaper to run - not if it has broken down and you need some emergency heat.
Yes you can use a heat pump system to get up to 5kW of heat out of 1kW of electricity but they aren't £12 ....
2265 units in stock at time of posting. Free delivery for any orders over £5 at CPC. Good for keeping as an emergency in case your main heating breaks down.
All comments (47)
Yes it is another heater
No it is not any more or less economical to run than your 2kW fan heater - 2kW of energy goes in, 2kW of heat comes out.
Yes a gas boiler / radiators is cheaper to run - not if it has broken down and you need some emergency heat.
Yes you can use a heat pump system to get up to 5kW of heat out of 1kW of electricity but they aren't £12 ....
2265 units in stock at time of posting. Free delivery for any orders over £5 at CPC. Good for keeping as an emergency in case your main heating breaks down.
Trust me get a timed one. The way they rip you off you could accidentally leave one on in a room and you've used £5 in a day. I know to my cost. Ahaa
Multiply that by 24 hours and it works out at £5.50 per 24 hours if you have it running at full whack.
You could always run it at a lower wattage - 750W would cost you around £2 for a 24 hour period.
This is assuming you have them maxed out and on full. If you run them on the thermostat, depending on how hot you want your room, they won't be at 100% duty.
http://www.wilko.com/extension-leads/wilko-mechanical-mini-timer/invt/0343076
Fan heaters make a racket, these convectors are portable to heat in any room or even keep a small flat warm with just one on.The thermostat can be set low when you go out.
Even you only want one for emergencies, at this price buy two. They had the same deal last year, but the rest of the year it is not always at this price.
Some devices DO NOT LIKE being powered on/off via the mains - high-drain appliances (like this) especially. It generally shortens their lives (switches get burned-out and elements can die)
At these prices you probably don't care but I've experienced first-hand a situation where warranty/return was refused because the device had been used in this fashion (it's easy to tell IF someone looks - most of the time no-one looks, of course)
Note: the manual will almost certainly tell you NOT to disconnect/connect mains power without turning-off the device first - a timer does EXACTLY that
Unplugging an appliance while it is on is generally not a good idea I'd agree. Many devices are inductive loads which can cause back EMF and risk of a small spark from the plug when pulled out. This is a very very small risk of shock as well. You can also find with other appliances that they have a RF/EMI filter on them which leaves a small cap charged - the amount of times I've got a jolt from something I've just unplugged (I'm an electronics engineer by trade).
However ...... switching one of these on / off via a timer a couple of times a day should be perfectly safe. The better timers have zero crossing triacs in which only allow the switch to turn on when the mains is at zero potential in it's 50Hz cycle. Even the cheaper timers should be able to handle this without a problem (as long as they are rated for 13 amps).
I will say however that when you use one of these with a timer, set it to come on, wait for 10 minutes or so then check the plugs and timer to see if any are getting warm or hot. If they are then discontinue use immediately.
Also try not to use these with extension leads and never use them with multiplugs - the amount of melted equipment I've had returned to our department from overloaded sockets is scary !
If you're talking timers, without buying one and dissecting it I wouldn't be able to tell you. As long as you buy it from a reputable retailer you should be fine as they make sure they conform to all relevant standards (and if they are found not to recall them !)
A fan heater will mix the air more effectively so you get a more even heat in the room. The downside is the fan it a bit noisy and they also blow dust around.
A convection heater is silent (apart from the click of the thermostat) but heat is a bit more localised - they aren't horrendous though and the air soon mixes in the room anyway.
Infrared heaters will give you a feeling of immediate warmth as they heat the objects in the room (including you) however if you're not directly in view of them you can feel a bit chilly !
Any timer from CPC capable of switching 13A should be man enough for the job. I'd personally go for a digital one.
"If your energy use is split evenly between gas and electricity, even a back-of-the-envelope calculation shows the only people who this would be cheapest for those who use more than 80% of their electricity during the free hours. Frankly even if you did all the week's washing, dishwashing and everything else that you could save, you wouldn’t come close to doing this."
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/energy/2016/07/british-gas-offers-free-weekend-electricity-if-you-get-a-smart-meter---but-will-it-save-you-money
As he would say, ditch & switch!
you really should remember what you say,
otherwise no one takes you seriously,
oh wait.....
This is a great price for them ! :smiley:
Keeps my flat warm and heats up fats
Got a picture of the exposed wires ?
I think this one has EXPIRED!
Quick, get those HOT, HOT, HOT votes in now!