You've clearly made your mind up which is better, even in the face of logic. So enjoy your 1050, for the rest of the people wanting best FPS/£ the RX 470 will be a much better card that should ensure greater longevity - the 470 supports Async computing for a start, the 1050? Nope. With DX12 and Vulkan games the Amd will also continue to outperform it handsomely.

Here's a decent objective overview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ6GI-YKEyg
(8:00 for BF1, 14:00 for round-up)

Your comment about sync, well it may be relevant to the Nvidia users who have to pay £100 premium for the technology, but for Freesync AMD users, this end of the market is exactly what the technology is there to support, lower FPS cards that may otherwise suffer from tearing and stutters - go read about Freesync and LFC so you're aware.

You're trying to justify this card over a 470 which trumps its in every respect for TDP but even then either Frame/Watt, or Frame/£ it silences the 1050.

Unless you need a LP card, there is no point buying a 1050.





Buy whatever you like :laughing:

At what? Heating your room up? Chances are if the 470 drops, then this will drop. And if you only have a weedy PSU, or like me have a HTPC where heat output must be minimal, and my case is low profile too, and you need the highest efficiency in FPS/w as possible then that pretty much rules out any AMD card made since the 7000 series.

I use moonlight / trinus a lot on my phone too with VR headset, won't work with AMD.

Besides, AMD haemorrhaging money, they can't afford to do a price cut.

omg it is here!!!!!!!! hmmmmmmmmmmmmm have 750ti.... could get a quad core q6600 or q8400 for 60 to 80 quid from ebay and give that and my 750ti to my son... and get this.... shall I? don't need....just play xcom 2. but....... (i have small form factor viglen business pc with i5 and small psu)

need to check if fits in small.form factor pc. cheers for posting!!

would this be worth an upgrade from my pny 660ti?

Will this card be a waste of money if I pair it with my AMD 5800K CPU (With integrated APU)?

this is a hot price as other places around 160 mark!

http://www.trustedreviews.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-review-performance-and-benchmarks-page-2

benchmarks here!!!

I would get an rx 470 if I were you as you can handle the power?

I can't as only small form factor business pc.

Meant to be on par with the 960, which is still decent at 1080. Really want to pick one of these up and build a tiny console killer for upstairs.

Nice find, This card should work with any of the shelf store PC as it only takes power from the PCIx16 slot. Great if you only have a small power supply, should be able to work with 240w and above although it does state 300w is recommended.
Voted Hot!

Agh really want to buy this for a new build but I stupidly spent 260 quid on a 970 only in April. Just can't justify it.

Wow, nice price indeed. I wonder if it would be a worthy upgrade from my 750Ti? I'm playing Fallout 4 on medium settings, would this card give me a little more?

I would say wait a bit cause this ought to push the prices down. But then again the way the £ is at the moment It's uncertainity all the way...

Another review here - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-review

It is about 50% faster than a 750 Ti based on the fact it's about on par with GTX 960. Was surprised to see it could overclock to 1850MHz (!!) since it has no extra PCI Express power.

I don't think it's a power issue, the 470 4gb is minimum £180. The 1060 is also minimum £180.

If you are going to up the budget to 180, get the 1060 3gb.

If you have a 135-140 budget, the 1050 TI is a good option.

For 100-105 the 1050 is good.

At the low end, the AMD 460 is not competitive right now unless it's cost is less than the 1050.

The 470 competes with the 1050ti in performance, but not in price.

Need a low profile version of this, and can then upgrade my 750ti. Shame its still 128 bit, a PCIe powered 192bit version at £140 would be the holy grail.

Guru3d has a comprehensive review

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1050_and_1050_ti_gaming_x_review,23.html

Its quicker than a 7970 and not far off the Titan in GTA V!! On a 75w card! (though granted they may have been tested with a different CPU etc)

Wait for 470 to drop, so much better...

Nice price, hoping this'll nudge the 1060 down slightly, or maybe the 480

https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/matthew-wilson/amd-is-dropping-rx470-and-rx460-pricing-to-combat-gtx-1050/

I'd take an 8GB 470 for £165 every day of the week over this.

Appreciate it you're hampered by a need for a LP card it may be out of the question, but plenty of people aren't and 100% more VRAM and in most cases 20fps more in games like BF1 its a no brainer.

The 1050ti can already play BF1 at full whack in 1080p at 58FPS. Its a 1080p aiming card, not sure what benefit 8gb over 4gb will have for the next 12-18 months whilst most games are console ports, and the 470 doesn't have the grunt to give dual monitors or 4k res justice.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1050_and_1050_ti_gaming_x_review,13.html

Most people won't notice 20FPS extra on their bog standard 60hz IPS 24" monitors, and as drivers age that gap will close anyway. Doubt the gsync/freesync types will be looking at £150 cards either.

You've clearly made your mind up which is better, even in the face of logic. So enjoy your 1050, for the rest of the people wanting best FPS/£ the RX 470 will be a much better card that should ensure greater longevity - the 470 supports Async computing for a start, the 1050? Nope. With DX12 and Vulkan games the Amd will also continue to outperform it handsomely.

Here's a decent objective overview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ6GI-YKEyg
(8:00 for BF1, 14:00 for round-up)

Your comment about sync, well it may be relevant to the Nvidia users who have to pay £100 premium for the technology, but for Freesync AMD users, this end of the market is exactly what the technology is there to support, lower FPS cards that may otherwise suffer from tearing and stutters - go read about Freesync and LFC so you're aware.

You're trying to justify this card over a 470 which trumps its in every respect for TDP but even then either Frame/Watt, or Frame/£ it silences the 1050.

Unless you need a LP card, there is no point buying a 1050.





Buy whatever you like :laughing:

Yes but where from?

Read the link I posted chap, should be in effect from next week though you may find OCuk etc adjust more quickly.

hp 530na desktop - this be usable in it as it has a measly 180w psu?

some of the 54w for the i3 will be for its built in graphics which won't be used (unless you're multi tasking on two monitors to rip your blu rays!)

Kind of gutted about this. Bought a 750ti in September thinking that was the best I could use on my PC due to power limits.

thanks! I couldn't see low profile on the ebuyer webpage. My 750ti is a special low profile version from kta2. I did a lot of research before buying it - and it was one for small pcs.

oh forgot about moonlight. though steam streaming still works with amd?

​brill thx. its my sons pc i got from costco.

i didnt know if it was easier to upgrade the psu and put in my system pulled gtx 960 or just a gfx card that wasnt psu hungry. this card looks a quick win and less faffing.

he will be able to play warcraft and some other games hopefully in decent detail.

The article implied that the prices would have changed this week, and one of the reviews above (which originally agreed with you regarding the [email protected]) was updated to say that the 165 price was no longer available.

I wonder if this would work in a Dell Inspiron 3650 desktop with proprietary non-upgradeable 260w psu?

That's the same card I have, cracking little thing, could probably sell it and get most of the £90 I paid for it 2 years ago.

Moonlight only works with nvidia, not amd, elite dangerous is pretty awesome on a £20 headset with head tracking with no wires at all.

I'm fairly sure AMD doesn't have the means to manually adjust a retailers price the moment they make an announcement - if you're in the market for a card and want the best bang for your buck, be patient and give the retailers a week.

Amazon have already carried out some sort of drop on this card, albeit still at a higher price than was mentioned, but we all know how dynamically they update their pricing:



Lots of 4GB models at the same price, we'll see what happens I guess! If they stay at £180 for the 4GB the 1050Ti has a place at £140. If however the 470 does hit £160~ it (the 1050) becomes irrelevant to the average impartial user.

will this fit in a SFF case?

@hoff, Yes I found the language in the article confusing and along side the comment in the article that the 165 price had reverted I suspected I may have missed the boat. We'll see in a week or so I guess.

Good price. I'm gutted as I ordered the same card for £148 from Scan last night, and I thought that was not a bad price.

terrific deal! Hopefully a sign of things to come and the rest of the NVidia range will creep down in price

Outstanding performance for the price

All gone.

yes i have been looking at hp elite. was going to get one from ebay but found a viglen on gumtree near me instead. more reliable when can see them

aargh. See my comment above. The 750ti fits in a SFF if you get the special low profile version. THIS IS NOT THE LOW PROFILE VERSION OF THE 1050... so wait a bit for it to be released / good price... sorry!

http://www.www8-hp.com/ca/en/images/elitedesk800_sff_gallery3_tcm_223_1487600.jpg

looks like has expansion room at the back.. but... wait for low profile version. THIS VERSION IS NOT IT!

I know you keep saying talking about your nvidia patriotism but the 470 is literally 50% faster than the 1050 Ti just saying...

Not at all. You may misunderstand what I mean by 'not competing'.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1050_Ti_Gaming_X/27.html

The 470 doesn't compete against the 1050 *because of the price*. Not because of the performance. The 470 is indeed about 25% faster, but for more than 25% more! They are in a different price point. The AMD 460 is what competes against the 1050 and 1050 ti. And it's clear, the 460 has been rendered completely pointless.

If you have 180 quid, you could purchase the 1060 3gb, which, at the *same price* is 25% faster than the 470.

And if you are worried about 3gb or 4gb of VRAM not being enough, then pop up 20-30 for the 1060 6gb, which again, is better than the 470 or the 480 8GB models.

50% figure came from linus tech tips video.
Right now the 470 is about £180 which is quite a bit more at this price point but it might be worth depending on the buyer ofc.

But who would buy the 470 for 180 when you can buy the 1060 3gb for 180 and have a faster card?

The 470 will last longer obviously.
Games hit the 3GB cap already.
The 1060 3GB is £200.
The 470 4GB is £170.

>But who would buy the 470 for 180 when you can buy the 1060 3gb for 180 and have a faster card?

But what about the aforementioned 470 8gb @ £165? Would that change your advice?

Anybody who wants to future proof and not be unnecessarily be handicapped by daft 3GB VRAM limits. There's already games like Mirrors Edge that want more than 3GB at which point you're relying on compression, any game with HQ texture ability is also going to suffer. If the 1060 3GB was a good idea can you explain to us why the 1050 comes with 4GB? Why not 3GB and destroy AMD with aggressive pricing? The answer is its a flawed product with cut down texture shaders, daft VRAM choices and a price point too high.

Also, how does the 1050 and 1060 do with Async and SLI? 470 and 480 Crossfire nicely.

I'm hoping to see the 470 at £160/170 and the 480 4GB at £190, then decisions become very clear.

At the price point for 1050/1060, who even considers SLI? 130 for a graphics card is a budget price, why add 5 quid to the price for a feature the vast majority don't want, especially with mGPU coming out?

SLI and crossfire are a waste of time, mGPU is the future anyway.

And Async? Really? You do know Pascal has Async Compute, right?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10325/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-and-1070-founders-edition-review/9

Anyway, if you think 3gb is 'not future proof' but you think 4gb is, I've got some bad news for you, AMD's memory compression is roughly 20% worse, so you run into the same problems with 4gb as you would with 3gb on and AMD card.

If you throw the word "Future Proof" into the discussion, then just pick up the 1060 6gb for 30 quid more.

What are you talking about? The 470 4gb is 179.99 (and it's an expired deal).

If you are just going to make up prices that aren't real and then try to compare different techs, that's just wrong.

The 1060 3gb has better memory compression, about 20% better, compared to the 470 4gb. That extra 4gb on the AMD card is taxed by poor hardware/software. For all intents purposes, 3gb from NVIDIA is nearly 4gb from AMD. Check the benchmarks, you can see the 1060 3gb and the 470 4gb hanging at the same performance gaps, there isn't a 'wall' that the 1060 3gb hits.

Here's a link for the 1060 3gb at 179.99

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/palit-geforce-gtx-1060-dual-3gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-1506mhz-1708mhz-8000mhz-179-2518122

here's the 1060 6GB for 210
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/zotac-geforce-gtx-1060-gddr5-6gb-mini-graphics-card-with-5yr-warranty-210-92-with-2533121

The 1060 3gb is a better card than the 470 4gb. Upwards of 25% better . The idea that the 470 4gb is 'more future proof' is just silly, what future? One where having 25% less baseline performance is a good thing?

Unfortunately for your comment, not all VRAM allocation is created equal. Nvidia have demonstrably superior memory compression when compared with AMD. You can see this by the 960 not being stymied by its 128-bit memory bus. You can see this in the 2GB/4GB Nvidia/AMD card shootouts, where 2GB AMD cards stutter and drop performance in situations where 2GB Nvidia cards do not. Maxwell was far beyond 3rd-gen GCN, and Pascal improves their memory compression further - we have yet to see if Polaris is keeping up, has narrowed the gap, or has even fallen behind even further in this area.

TL;DR: You cannot compare Nvidia and AMD VRAM quantity byte-for-bye. And you should not offer advice on technical matters if you do not understand the tech.

(Incidentally, the 3GB 1060s haven't been "£200" for quite some time - I spy a couple for under £190 right now, a mini and a factory-overclocked model. But I don't recommend them, even at that price - once anyone's budget is ~£170-180, they'd get so much more longevity and as well as better performance by adding £50 for a 6GB 1060 that I'd either recommend that, or one of those fabled "£165" 8GB 470s that The_Hoff claims exist - power, CPU or OS concerns notwithstanding, of course.)

What are you talking about? The 470 4gb is 179.99 (and it's an expired deal).

If you are just going to make up prices that aren't real and then try to compare different techs, that's just wrong.

The 1060 3gb has better memory compression, about 20% better, compared to the 470 4gb. That extra 4gb on the AMD card is taxed by poor hardware/software. For all intents purposes, 3gb from NVIDIA is nearly 4gb from AMD. Check the benchmarks, you can see the 1060 3gb and the 470 4gb hanging at the same performance gaps, there isn't a 'wall' that the 1060 3gb hits.

Here's a link for the 1060 3gb at 179.99

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/palit-geforce-gtx-1060-dual-3gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-1506mhz-1708mhz-8000mhz-179-2518122

here's the 1060 6GB for 210
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/zotac-geforce-gtx-1060-gddr5-6gb-mini-graphics-card-with-5yr-warranty-210-92-with-2533121

The 1060 3gb is a better card than the 470 4gb. Upwards of 25% better . The idea that the 470 4gb is 'more future proof' is just silly, what future? One where having 25% less baseline performance is a good thing?[/quote]

I would somewhat disagree that the cut down 1060 is better than the 470.
1050ti
Most of the games have the 470 on top, apart from tomb raider which had some significant frame rate variations.

I would agree that the 1050ti is better than the 460 at this price, as rx460 4gb is £125

Digital Foundry have reviewed this card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDTnl66Yh90

OOS and also when buying a GTX 1050/TI make sure that your system supports dual slot GPU size. Many SSF (Small Form Factors) only allow single slot cards. Also make sure that your PSU has enough power to support 1050. Most SFF come with only 180 watts PSU which isnt enough for this card.

my order for my gtx 750ti gave this model number

https://www.amazon.co.uk/KFA-75IGH8HX9KXZ-Graphics-GTX750-Ti-GDDR5-DVI/dp/B00IKF9F6C

was single slot but did have a big fan on it...

i have seen others without fan so can't remember exactly which I got and don't want to open my machine as last time I did that while it was on the ethernet blew up!

have seen some thinner ones

so just to confirm

single slot means one set of vga/hdmi/dvi ports

but a fan could make it dual slot?

so no fan preferably

but half height? what's that called?

Sorry, quotes got broken a bit there...

The 1060 3gb trumps the 470 in every overall review I've seen. Yes, in DOOM and Hitman, the 470 pulls up a bit, but overall? The 1060 3gb is about 25% faster.

Hexus have a terrible testing suite, what is that like 5 games? I mean, I see how the review would lead someone to believe the 1060 is behind the 470, but


Techpowerup does 18+ games, does OC comparisons and tons of other nice stuff.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1050_Ti_Gaming_X/

You should be fine. Dual slot GPU basically means if you have another PCI slot close to it. It will be blocked by the dual slot GPU. Single Slot GPU will only take one slot.

Do not buy fan less GPU unless only used for HTPC and they are called passive cooling.

Gone & most of the rest of the 1050ti's are on the gouge train.