I love these posts, you get them every few weeks. The keys will work for a short time but they are legally grey, and anyone with half a braincell knows an item that should be over £100 would not be sold for £14 unless its fake or knocked off.

One thing springs to mind.....


Look at the seller :-
Registrant Name:Cui BaoSheng
Registrant Organization:AnHuiBaiZhouHuYuWangLuoGuFenYouXianGongSi
Registrant Street:AnHuiShengTongLingShiShiZiShanQuJingJiJiShuKaiFaQuCuiHu5Lu129Hao
Registrant City:Tonglingshi
Registrant State/Province:Anhuisheng
Registrant Postal Code:244000
Registrant Country:CN
Registrant Phone:+86.05625628772
Registrant Fax:+86.05625628772
Registrant Email:[email protected]

And they also run the following sites :-
amzgame - AMZGame | Play Free Online MMO Games Daily visitors: 8 393
Keywords: strategy, MMORPG, Browsergame, browser games, f2p, pvp, PvE, free-to-play, free2play, anime

scdkey - SCDKey – Global Digital Game Keys & Cards Marketplace Daily visitors: 4 108
Keywords: cdkeys, call of juarez cd key, gocdkeys, psn prepaid card, steam cdkeys, Origin CDKeys, Uplay CDKeys, Xbox Prepaid Card, scdkey, s...

vgolds - Vgolds – Virtual Game Currency, In-Game Item And Game Keys Store Daily visitors: 801
Keywords: game cards, Silkroad online gold, web, VGold, cd-keys, gnome shorts, v gold, In-game currencies, In-game items, power leveling.MMO

goldceo - GOLDCEO | Your lifelong partner for all your gaming needs! Daily visitors: 267
Keywords: silkroad gold, game cards, goldceo, web, cd-keys, gold ceo, goldceo, purchase mines of moria expansion, goa gold hack, how...

silkroad-gold - IIS7
Keywords: silkroad gold, buy gold silkroad

wtsgg
Keywords: wstgg, wtsgame, game4top, mirage crystal blade and soul, wts game.com

gkplayer - gkplayer | Top seller of game gold
Keywords: game cards, cd-keys, power-leveling, sell knight online items, arcane legends, In-game currencies, In-game items, MMO-game gold, d...

mmo-cards - ABCDKEY | Pay Less For The Latest Game Cards And CD Keys.
Keywords: cd keys, allcdkey, steam cd-keys, gocdkeys, pc game cards, Game CD-Keys, Origin Game CD-Keys, MMO Game CD-Keys and Cards, abcdkey,...

Ask yourself, is this really the sort of company you want to throw money at? Do you feel lucky punk?

Regards
Flea

Multiple virtual desktops
Cortana
Stream Xbox one games
It's faster
It's more secure
It has a better web browser
It will be supported by Microsoft for longer
It works better with a touch interface
It supports Direct X 12
It integrates with your Microsoft account
Free OneDrive storage

..... Shall I go on?

Oh yeah, totally legit :man: ..... it might well work but am very doubtful it's legit and adheres to Microsoft's licence agreement*. Before you all get angry and tell me that MS are zillionaires and Bill Gates has more money than God** please note that I don't actually care if you choose to buy this or not, just putting out my own thoughts on the legitamacy of these keys.

*You are entitled to not care about MS licence agreements and terms, I don't.
**or your deity or other fictional sky fairy of choice

Some people consider Win7 to be superior to Win10. Not least because Microsoft scrape a massive amount of personal data, as well as personal usage information, in Windows 10 in addition to forcing you to accept updates and using your machine to distribute updates to other computers. They also are steering people heavily towards their walled-garden store. So basically it's slicker, but hugely anti-consumer more than ever.. even for Microsoft.

You can turn a lot of this off, but most people won't even know it's happening.

I bought an OEM key from Amazon for Windows 7 a few years ago for about the same price which enabled me to upgrade to W10 for free and I haven't had any hassle with it at all, so heat for this from me at least.

As long as it's an OEM key and not a MSDN key it should be fine. Good find.

Windows 10 home costs around £85 and pro version somewhere in the region of £150. I've never heard SCDkey before and after doing numerous hours of research I would be very wary over buying a copy of windows 10 that is not verifiably legit

So - software that is £80 OEM and £150 Retail is available legitimately for £14 from some dodgy website?
Come on people, wake up. If you don't want to pay for your software then go pirate it yourself. Don't pay someone else to supply you with unlicensed software.

I've read enough reports about windows keys being revoked after several months to be wary. Possibly people selling volume licenses? Would these keys fall into that bracket? Also, does M$ still restrict OEM keys to a single PC? (ie you can't swap out motherboard with a OEM key as it's regarded as a new system by M$)?

ALL Windows 10 keys are now restricted to the motherboard they're first used on. This way if you reformat you just need to reload Windows and not have to use a key again.

Oh yeah, totally legit :man: ..... it might well work but am very doubtful it's legit and adheres to Microsoft's licence agreement*. Before you all get angry and tell me that MS are zillionaires and Bill Gates has more money than God** please note that I don't actually care if you choose to buy this or not, just putting out my own thoughts on the legitamacy of these keys.

*You are entitled to not care about MS licence agreements and terms, I don't.
**or your deity or other fictional sky fairy of choice

Remember that you can still upgrade to Windows 10 from 7/8 if you download the updater manually here:

Windows 10 Ugrade/ISO download

They're not always legit though. I bought one a while back in one of the previous deals from here. It was a VLK and not OEM.
You can check via: http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/49586-windows-license-type-determine-if-oem-retail-volume.html

You can only do this once you have the actual key though. Just because they say it's OEM doesn't mean it is.

I have bought an oem key, even upgraded
my motherboard and contacted ms, who once I verified my cd key switches the license over to the new board

Obviously, but I guess I'm of the 'Take the retailers word till I have reason to suspect otherwise' school. Perhaps a bit naive.

Do you have a link to a source on that?

​Why not if you have win7 ?

Some people consider Win7 to be superior to Win10. Not least because Microsoft scrape a massive amount of personal data, as well as personal usage information, in Windows 10 in addition to forcing you to accept updates and using your machine to distribute updates to other computers. They also are steering people heavily towards their walled-garden store. So basically it's slicker, but hugely anti-consumer more than ever.. even for Microsoft.

You can turn a lot of this off, but most people won't even know it's happening.

Luddite mentality :laughing:

Cos Windows 7 is better. No need to upgrade.

Windows 10 is now tied to your user account (digital licence) so it doesn't matter if you change your motherboard or anything. As long as you log in with the user account that you first registered it with you can install it again with a licence key..as long as you sign in with your user account.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/12440/windows-10-activation

​why? genuinely want to know.

How exactly is it better?

Spoilers! It's not better.

What can Windows 10 do that Windows 7 can't? Windows 7 is a perfectly competent OS, so much so that many businesses have refused to upgrade to 10, let alone 8 when it was around...

Just two weeks ago did a full clean wipe and reinstall of Win10 home on someone's laptop which originally came with Win8. I didn't have to activate it, all I had to do was click the "I don't have a product key" during the install, and it activated itself once it completed the installation. I was a little surprised but pleased.

Note: This can't be used to upgrade from Windows 10 Home to Windows 10 Pro, you would have to do a clean install.

Approved in the way that HUKD gets paid for each sale, lets post a "offer" to a Reddit seller who has a ton of positive feedback + cheaper and see how long that topic lasts.

Multiple virtual desktops
Cortana
Stream Xbox one games
It's faster
It's more secure
It has a better web browser
It will be supported by Microsoft for longer
It works better with a touch interface
It supports Direct X 12
It integrates with your Microsoft account
Free OneDrive storage

..... Shall I go on?

Maffew has very kindly answered this for me:


If "businesses have refused to upgrade to 10" it is overwhelmingly likely that they either need to stay on 7 as they are running legacy software, or they haven't upgraded because they don't yet need (they don't get a free upgrade like home users, I expect).

Wrong. It's because Windows 10 doesn't offer them a valid reason to upgrade at a substantial cost.

You say "wrong" but you are just saying the exact same thing I said!? Good to know you don't even read comments before replying to them!

Not really. You mentioned either legacy reasons or because " they don't yet need".

​sorry.. but it's you that has lost the "what have the Romans ever done for us" argument.

Just because you have decided that you don't want the features doesn't make it better.
My nokia 3210 made phone calls and sent texts, does that make it a better phone than an iPhone 7 because I'm not likely to use apps?
A large percentage of the oil and gas industry is still running on Windows XP because of the associated costs of upgrading the API to work with future versions of Windows. Does that mean that XP is better than Windows 7?
Your arguments have no note whatsoever.

Are you suffering from lead poisoning?

Says the person who states Microsoft Edge as a "better web browser" :laughing:

There's no doubt windows 7 is an excellent os. I'm sure windows 10 is too and 8 too. my personal preference is 7. In my view 8/10 are suited to touch screens and tablets but not old school power users/admins/techy types/programmers since the crappie interface just gets in the way. mind you I felt the same when I originally went from windows 3.1 to win 95 and so on, eventually well get over it and loathe the next new thing they force upon us

You think that Internet Explorer is better than Edge?!

No I know Chrome is better than Edge. Only 3% of global desktop users use Edge.

Direct X 12

Businesses don't refuse to upgrade, but rolling out a new OS is a massive undertaking, planning and testing takes at least 6 months (get all apps tested, define group policies, prep a deployment tool etc.) and often they do it as part of lifecycling (then no issue with backing up and restoring data during build, driver support for old models etc.).
Windows 10 has more security features and performs better than Windows 7 plus will be supported much longer. Am pretty sure every decent IT department have it on the cards, it's easier to deploy than WIndows 7 too.

Chrome comes with Windows 7 does it? :wink:

I bought a key and tried it. It didn't work for me

Edit: I'm assuming it's because it's an OEM key

Is anything to do with Microsoft really legit... boot scrapers and body harvesters comes to mind :wink:

I've bought this as my son did a clean install of his home computer with Ubuntu o/s and now wishes to change back to windows.
Problem being that we didn't have the "bootable" disks that came with the computer (if they did) and so need a new o/s.
So how do I go about getting this operating system onto the computer? Any help is greatly appreciated.

​You might think so probably from a look & feel pov but 10 stomps all over 7 under the hood.

​It's more secure, it supports more hardware out of the box, it's going to be supported by software companies for longer than 7, it gets new toys like DirectX, live streaming from xbox, user accounts the follow you, much better search functionality

Reminds me of when Halo 2 was released on PC, exclusively for Windows Vista, did I upgrade.....NO

Just to clarify, businesses will never install Windows 10 Home or Pro because of the data collection by Microsoft, which cannot be switched off and offers no user-controlled updates. Windows 10 Enterprise and Education are the only versions which allow no data collection and manual updates out of the box (without hacking your system first).

Actually, I got it wrong as the Anniversary update lets you tie it to the MAS account, but prior to this they were tied to hardware. Now you just need to opt in to tie it to a MAS account and then reactivate it when you change hardware. I didn't realise they made this change until now.

Sane people definitely don't use Chrome. Sane people use Firefox.

Firstly your argument that 10 can't do anything that 7 can't doesn't make 7 better. 7 is indeed a very good OS for when it was released, but times have moved on. Your wording was wrong at the end too, you mean "refused to upgrade to 8, let alone 10".

Let's remind ourselves what's better with 10, echoing some other comments:

Faster
Cheaper
Full support of new hardware and software, 1st party and 3rd
Free upgrades
Free security support and bugfixes
Xbox game streaming and UWP apps/games, plus Play Anywhere games, DX12
Virtual desktops
Updated built in software including task manager, file explorer, control panel, start menu, Edge etc
Looks much nicer
Apps
Touch support
Fewer security issues and viruses (from my experience)
Cortana

It is still behind 7 in terms of market share because upgrading an OS is not a small task, many people don't view it as worth the effort for them, or are not aware of all the benefits, but that doesn't mean it's not better.

Get your head out of 2009

Can we stop posting these?

These will be MSDN keys, they can even send you a "scanned COA" from a .psd template readily available online.

No one sells "OEM" licenses as just the keys and for such a low price.

The only way you can sell licenses for such a low price is if you are getting them from a MSDN subscriber account.

All this arguing about whether Windows 10 is better than 7 or 8 or XP is a waste of time.

OS X is the way forwards and you all know it really.

*puts tin hat on and retreats into cover*

How is it cheaper? It was offered "free" on the basis you had a Windows 7/8 licence, which would (or should) have been paid for. Many had pirated versions of Windows 7 which is already free.


Yeh, tell Bloomberg that...


Hasn't all Windows OSs in the past decade done this via Windows Update?


Irrelevant to me. I don't play games.


Again - more duff info. Windows has actually had API support for virtual desktops since Windows NT 4 and Windows 7 has it built-in. There was just no user interface around it. All that was needed to be done was to download Desktops v2.0 from MIcrosoft’s Windows Sysinternals site to use it.


Again as with any new generation of OS. Doesn't actually mean it's better though. Have you used Edge? It's laughable...


Opinion, not fact.


A good reason NOT to install Windows 10. Bogs down CPU resources...


A hinderance, not a benefit.


Really? Despite Microsoft's huge push to get you to upgrade and even putting a Windows 10 link by the taskbar?


Thank you for your contribution! :smile:

​Netflix 1080p

For info:

You can save your money and install windows 10 without a key/activation - you will just get a slight nagging message overlaying the desktop background that it is unregistered, the OS will remain fully operational.

You can still upgrade to windows 10 from 7/8 for free by using the assistive technology upgrade program:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/accessibility/windows10upgrade

If you do install windows 10, remove all the data capture tracking rubbish by using anti-beacon:
https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/

Alternatively install Linux Mint and be happy :man:

I don't use any of the crappy new Windows 10 software like Cortana, Edge etc but they don't really reduce performance when not used so there's no issue there. The only thing that annoys me is the new settings menu (because it doesn't replace control panel, it just adds more and duplicate settings in a different place) and the lack of a manual windows updates option.

It seems pointless to stick with 7 though. So many people refused to switch from XP when 7 came out. At the end of the day if you still use and old OS you're left with a decaying product as all the new apps and drivers get the most testing on Win10 and you get the buggy leftovers.

Definitely recommend disabling Telemetry but some of the programs that do it by blocking hosts and services are very heavy-handed and can break other things. For example that "Application Experience" getting disabled can stop Steam running properly

Are you? Certainly sound like one.

I love these posts, you get them every few weeks. The keys will work for a short time but they are legally grey, and anyone with half a braincell knows an item that should be over £100 would not be sold for £14 unless its fake or knocked off.

One thing springs to mind.....


Look at the seller :-
Registrant Name:Cui BaoSheng
Registrant Organization:AnHuiBaiZhouHuYuWangLuoGuFenYouXianGongSi
Registrant Street:AnHuiShengTongLingShiShiZiShanQuJingJiJiShuKaiFaQuCuiHu5Lu129Hao
Registrant City:Tonglingshi
Registrant State/Province:Anhuisheng
Registrant Postal Code:244000
Registrant Country:CN
Registrant Phone:+86.05625628772
Registrant Fax:+86.05625628772
Registrant Email:[email protected]

And they also run the following sites :-
amzgame - AMZGame | Play Free Online MMO Games Daily visitors: 8 393
Keywords: strategy, MMORPG, Browsergame, browser games, f2p, pvp, PvE, free-to-play, free2play, anime

scdkey - SCDKey – Global Digital Game Keys & Cards Marketplace Daily visitors: 4 108
Keywords: cdkeys, call of juarez cd key, gocdkeys, psn prepaid card, steam cdkeys, Origin CDKeys, Uplay CDKeys, Xbox Prepaid Card, scdkey, s...

vgolds - Vgolds – Virtual Game Currency, In-Game Item And Game Keys Store Daily visitors: 801
Keywords: game cards, Silkroad online gold, web, VGold, cd-keys, gnome shorts, v gold, In-game currencies, In-game items, power leveling.MMO

goldceo - GOLDCEO | Your lifelong partner for all your gaming needs! Daily visitors: 267
Keywords: silkroad gold, game cards, goldceo, web, cd-keys, gold ceo, goldceo, purchase mines of moria expansion, goa gold hack, how...

silkroad-gold - IIS7
Keywords: silkroad gold, buy gold silkroad

wtsgg
Keywords: wstgg, wtsgame, game4top, mirage crystal blade and soul, wts game.com

gkplayer - gkplayer | Top seller of game gold
Keywords: game cards, cd-keys, power-leveling, sell knight online items, arcane legends, In-game currencies, In-game items, MMO-game gold, d...

mmo-cards - ABCDKEY | Pay Less For The Latest Game Cards And CD Keys.
Keywords: cd keys, allcdkey, steam cd-keys, gocdkeys, pc game cards, Game CD-Keys, Origin Game CD-Keys, MMO Game CD-Keys and Cards, abcdkey,...

Ask yourself, is this really the sort of company you want to throw money at? Do you feel lucky punk?

Regards
Flea

Thank you for your contribution!

​If it doesn't work after you have bought it, e.g duplicate key, Microsoft support will activate it for you. Took about 10 minutes in support for me :smile:

Thank you for yours.

Saying "I don't use this", "I don't use that", "I don't play games" is not exactly a valid argument as to why Windows 7 is better. If I only browse Facebook then ChromeOS is probably right up might street, doesn't make it better than Windows.

Face it, Windows 10 is the superior OS, as evidenced by all the examples people are throwing at you, to which you have no counter-examples.

So why hasn't it surpassed Windows 7 usage despite the huge push by Microsoft to take up the offer of a "free" upgrade?

Don't care for security updates?

Silk road :confused:

You mean that 3310 that battery lasted around 2 weeks of use, that didn't have updates that basically bricked it? That basically worked out of the box with no messing around with settings.

Actually your argument for it being better is "it has more features" Speaking as someone who works in IT most IT professionals I know don't like 10 though its hit and miss if its disliked as much as 8#

For me personally the only draw is DX12 everything else is a downgrade to me.

Newer OS breaks legacy features, many things that have no replacements on newer OS versions.

The way the world is going users are basically lazy and want a bloated OS, just like one of the reason pick Apple products as they require no thinking its just pick up and use.

Win 10 has things like telemetry included, forces updates and a lot of overrated features like Cortana.

Someone who knows their stuff would get a clean OS and just manually add what they want like pre installed updates and freeware/alternatives to big name stuff whcih uses much less resources and means they can pick and choose what they want in a OS.

In general the newer the OS the more user friendly it is for the lack of knowledge everyday consumer, the LESS user friendly it is for anyone with at least some level of things like upgrade knowledge.

If anyone wants an example of the technologically illiterate use this guys post as an example.

I mean let's start basic. Apparently people over twelve cannot play console games. It's a pretty stupid comment but let's move on.

Negligible performance differences. Are you actually serious? Do some research on this topic and I mean please, please genuinely do some research on this topic.

Better web browser. Totally agree with you about Chrome but he's comparing Edge to Internet Explorer and I'd like to think that deep down, you knew that.

Microsoft Support. This is the big one. I mean this isn't even arguable. With no support the Operating System instantly becomes a wild west for attacks. Any new exploits will not be patched or resolved. Why do you think businesses spend thousands, hundreds of thousands (size dependent) on upgrades before support ends? Because they like spending money? This comment alone could be a neon sign that you do not know what you're talking about, let alone everything else you've mentioned.

Turning off comments for replies so you won't get another response out of me even if you do come back with some smartmouth answers where you think you're right in some attempt to try and validate your statements.

Everything else mentioned is somewhat hardware/personal preference so not going to address it.

Good luck in life, fella.

Windows 7 is still supported and will be till 2020.

Yet you conveniently ignore the factual point of virtual desktops. Yawn...

OK Fairly simple question. I have a HP Stream 7 with Win 8 on it. I find often the scaling is horrible (eg a program has a window bigger than my screen and i need to turn the tablet, move the window, turn move etc to get to the Save / Exit button.
Is Win 10 much better? (Reason I have enlarged screen things is because I can't navigate the menus at normal scale).

It's a site called silkroad-gold, not the actual silk road. The real silk road would never have shown up on a DNS registration list like that (mainly because it was never actually registered).

This. And seeing a successful whois makes me feel better about a company. Doesn't cost much to hide all that info.

Silkroad is a popular Korean online game.

I guess that website is for people who wish to buy/sell in game currency within that game (not checked, but just a guess). That would be another grey area, but it seems to be this companies business ethos in general. But like anything, personal choice, pays ya money, buys ya poison.

Regards
Flea

I am no Clouseau, but I have a sneaky feeling that some people commenting on this thread do not like Windows 10.

Indeed. Gold farming is a huge thing in China. You can't really blame them for getting in on the action.

If they're OEM keys, they can be sold legitimately. Infact, any real key, regardless of how it was obtained (as long as it was done so legally) can legally be resold

Google "UsedSoft v Oracle" - then be pleased that we're still (currently) part of the EU :wink:

They're not restricted to the motherboard first used on, as such, it's a convenience feature (and that includes upgrade copies). You can google yourself, but basically:
* if your copy of Windows 10 is retail then you can transfer as much as you like (as long as you remove the old copy), if it's OEM you can't
* if you've used a Windows 10 'upgrade' then the same applies but it's based on whether the version you had before was retail or OEM

I got a Windows 10 key and image download link for £5.99 on Ebay. Do your search and you will find these.

Or perhaps not; I've pointed this out time and again "UsedSoft v Oracle" is totally irrelevant to Microsoft OEM copies. I provided the evidence, nobody despite protests could disprove me. I'm no legal expert but neither has one posted on this matter, thus Microsoft's stance remains the case until proven incorrect.

........... and with Windows 10 .... if you choose not to activate it all you'll really lose is the ability to change your desktop background ...... most other important functionality is available

Just built a new PC two weeks ago and used an old windows 8 key which I had not upgraded to windows 10. I had to install windows 8.1 first but then I downloaded the tool from the MS site and upgraded to 10 with no issues. Once it activated I even did a couple of clean installs and had no issues.
Officially, Yes the free upgrade program ended back in July but if you download the Windows 10 Upgrade/ISO tool it will upgrade you machine. Can't 100% guarantee it but as said it worked for me two weeks ago.

I made a bootable windows 10 drive on usb using the tool on the microsoft website. Installed windows 10, when it prompted for key i skipped it. And now my windows is activated. Hasn't once asked me for a key.

definitely worth the upgrade.

Good Price.

Directx12 for a start ;-)

And dont forget SPYWARE lol

Link?
Pretty sure that once you own it, you can resell it - and that any "restrictions" of it's use are null and void as per the first sale doctrine

thanks

I personally prefer Windows 7.
I consider Windows 10 equivalent to spyware or rubbish like Origin. (I'm forced to use Origin as BF3 works no other way, multiplayer wise.)

Haven't tried Windows 8 or 8.1
but I've heard people tend to hate Win8 almost as much as Win10
And that Win8.1 isn't bad and even closest to Win7/XP.

Vista could have been great but it I think it was slow/bloated like Win10.

Win10 has so much crapware.
It takes ages to remove the crappy apps you'll never use and change the settings to minimise the intrusive telemetry, Cortana, and other privacy issues.
But I don't think everything can be turned off so I'm thinking of avoiding Win10 altogether and installing Win7/8.1 on top instead.
(Although I don't know how compromised Win7/8.1 Is in terms of NSA/Micro$oft spying.)

I would move to Linux tomorrow if it had good compatibility for software/games but it's still crap. :disappointed:

I also don't get what's so good about DX12.
Does it play games faster or something?

Telemtry has been added to WIndows 7 via Windows Update (and they published a privacy policy as well, guess it was always in there for licence checks anyway) so you have telemtry enabled unless you uninstalled those patches + error reporting will send info to MS anyway. WIndows 7 is not free of so-called "spying", Mac OS X isn't, Android and iOS aren't - our smart energy meters aren't, modern connected cars aren't etc... :-(

Easy to block all the telemetry.

Windows 7 is still ok, however future Windows versions will get worse and worse in this respect, so what you gonna do? stay on windows 7 forever?

May as well just upgrade now, block the telemetry, disable cortana if you really must. But you may as well move to windows 10

Only till 2020...

you'd be better off getting the W8.1 key £14.25 https://www.scdkey.uk/microsoft-windows-8-1-pro-oem-cd-key_1337-20.html

then upgrade for free to W10 - assistive technologies upgrade route

this gives you a cast iron new product key direct from Microsoft

Thanks for the interesting reply.
Is Linux free of spyware?
Do CPUs contain spyware chips for spying agencies? I've heard this is true for Intel ones at least. (Which would be a shame as the I5/I7 are awesome, performance wise :/

What's significant about the privacy policy you mentioned?

Also, can error reporting be turned off?
I remember the telemetry updates tried to weasel their way back but at some point they gave up at least for the moment.

Finally, what do you know about smart metres? I've always been suspicious of them and thought they were gimmicks by day, and microphone recording by night, so to speak. What was so obsolete about the old normal metres that had to be replaced??
I find them very suspicious. :neutral_face:

Yes, it's easy enough to do it. Or most of it. That doesn't make it right.

But the key point is that the vast majority of people won't even know it's there, and that is highly insidious.

I've read that you CAN'T block ALL telemetry (unless maybe you know how to modify an OS, hacker style)

I think Microsoft still makes home calls. :neutral_face:

Not work?

Paranoia central

I think Spybot Anti Beacon blocks it all for you, and it's free

yep it's easy peasy - I'm no geek & I learned how to do it last summer just by trial & error/ following the very basic instructions you can look up online, it's basically easier than many other things you already do such as downloading & saving images from your camera to a computer

I find 10 slower, particularly due to the interface.

Anyone know how to turn quick access off in Explorer?

U can't nest folders in the start menu 'all apps' - A 3rd party replacement is no good to me.

There's all this stuff I can't delete.

There's lots of inconsistencies.

And as for forcing you to take updates - FU

Could be better.

little known fact that your W7/W8/W8.1 product key remains valid & usable when you upgrade/d to W10 - so make a note of it before upgrading - if it's not on the box then use magical jelly bean keyfinder tool. Your upgrade to W10 will generate a shiny new product key.

Your old W7/W8/W8.1 product key can then be used as you wish, eg if you buy a computer with no O/S pre-installed.

In fact, most Windows product keys are re-usable after about 3-4 months, ie they will get activated by Microsoft as genuine.

I think this is how some of the scammers who sell cheap product keys are operating. Ie the product key has already been used once - but some time ago, so will normally work a second time when you buy it and they email it to you.

Anyone who doesn't play games - try Linux with KDE (Antergos, Fedora, Kubuntu etc).

No it's stupid letting MS install anything on ur comp until you see if its screwed anyone else.

I just tell it I'm on a metered connection.

Sad

As this is an OEM key, I assume that once I register it to a computer, I lose the licence if the computer conks out?

the free download still works for W7/ W8/8.1

plus if you just want the easy upgrade route, then use assistive technology method

I had a Windows 7 'business' desktop which I gave to my son. He has been playing his games on there for a couple of years. But after the W10 upgrade some of his games stopped working. :disappointed:

My Windows 8 Sony laptop stopped working after the W10 upgrade, something to do with the drivers ... roll backed then now some security feature has screwed up. I just can't be bother with Windows 10 anymore.

I quite like the W10 interface but I'm never going to upgrade again. A new install I'm OK with.

exactly - widely reported

W10 is superior to 7+8, and driver support isn't too bad now.
However, W7 had a better... ecosystem, let's call it. There was less integration with every single thing Microsoft wanted to market at you and had a safe mode and other things that made it solid and simple.

W10, a lot of the annoying things have been improved and cleared up - but they've added all new annoying things. Like waking machines that are sleeping to do updates at 3am despite repeately being told not to.

I chose W10 for DX12 support and a few other minor odds and ends and apart from one total system failure when the Oculus drivers caused a rather annoying crash loop followed by a failed rollback it's been pretty smooth sailing.
Windows 7's mainstream support ended in January 2015, Windows 8 has about 14 months' support left. So eventually people will upgrade. End of extended support is Jan 2020 for Windows 7, so in 3 years time it'll be dead.

As ever, your mileage may vary. As for the Nokia 3310 arguments, those phones *did* need config and settings for MMS and Internet (well, WAP). Great phones, but you could only text and do basic thing so... devices that don't do anything are always great eh?

Also, this *has* to be fake, though some of their other key prices seem 'normal'. Trust pilot reviews are 'ok'.

The original question was "What can Windows 10 do that Windows 7 can't?".
All you've done is moan about how the new features aren't of any interest to you personally.

Pick ur dummy up and go back to your play pen till you learn how to act like an adult.

You do realise what "mainstream support" is don't you? Mainstream support just refers to free phone and online support, as well as non-security updates. Microsoft won't end security updates for Windows 7 until 2020, as both you and I have previously said. In three years time, Windows 11 will be out.

New features does not make an OS "better".

W11 will most likely just be to W10 as W10 is to W8.1...
I know full well what it all means. Upgrade every 2nd Version. Sorta. Kinda.
XP. **** Vista. 7. **** 8. 10. **** 11.

Once again: your original question was "What can Windows 10 do that Windows 7 can't?".

But yeah, guys... cool your tits. If people want 10, that's fine. If they wanna stay on 7 that's fine. I lost quite a lot when my upgrade wiped my machine out - but several things work better on 10 than 7 for me now.
Granted, I'm not the average user so as with anything everyone's experience will differ. £14 for a theoretically legit key from a site that *seems* to have legit keys and prices for other things is not a bad deal.

Png is just expressing his/her opinion of the OS he/she may have paid for.

Why would you be so upset that he didn't like Win10??

We have reviews/critics for a reason, mate!

No You can't: OEM keys are only for fresh installs so you have to wiped yoru Home and then install WIn10Pro from USB (via the USB download tool on the MS website)

Sad

Yeah, I habitually use sleep to suspend my PC instead of fully shutting down 'cos I'm lazy. I had to do several registry hacks and other **** to stop it waking from sleep to run updates. Monumentally annoying as at first I thought a cat had done it :P

Got the deal n the product code works!!!

The issue is not reselling it, that's fine. The issue is that the product is expired (OEM versions according to the T&C's can only be installed on the first motherboard it's activated to; these "OEMs" will be from company PCs where it's not being used and they would have been activated at manufacture). There is no onus on Microsoft to unexpire them thus in all likelihood they'll work but if they stop tough. Only completely unused/unactivated can be 'legally' sold and you don't get them at this price!

I recommend you properly turn it completely off every day or at least a few times a week because I doubt it's good for the machine to be running that long without breaks.

Unrelated: In my experience hibernation has caused big problems but maybe it was just a correlation...my laptop acted weird after keeping it in hibernation consecutively for days at a time...hard drive made erratic loud noises, things were slow until rebooting and eventually the laptop stopped booting despite switching on and the fan running...(black screen of death, no signal when connected to TV via HDMI/VGA)

Although I'm no super expert so don't take my advice as gospel. :stuck_out_tongue:
It probably just be wise to give your computer a break once in a while lol.

You seem quite hateful with how you brand me as bad just for defending someone giving criticism about a product.

Chill out dude.
I wasn't being a mouthpiece (whatever that means)
I just dislike it when people shoot others down for expressing the other side of the argument.

If you like Win10, you can write a pro-Win10 comment...no need to be dogmatic with a "if you don't like it, hit the road"
attitude.
Seriously, it's like politics in here.
If someone's lying, call them out.
But many people here are being honest about their negative opinion of Win10.

I feel you just had a bad day or something and posted without much consideration.
I'm not being bad, mate.
I'm just stating that there are valid reasons for people to avoid Win10.

If you like Win10, then that's good for you.
Sadly not everyone shares your experience with Micro$oft.

Don't take things seriously lol, this is just a website/comment section.
I wasn't attacking you if that's what you thought.

Well, that's where you're wrong

"The court requires that the previous owner must no longer be able to use the licensed software after the resale, but finds that the practical difficulties in enforcing this clause should not be an obstacle to authorizing resale". Essentially, if a machine/motherboard that shipped with OEM software is being scrapped, then it's fine. Realistically, if the machine is being reformatted and used for another OS (eg, Linux) and it's CAL is being destroyed, then this is also fine

It's cheaper, deals are much more affordable and the free upgrade. This is partly in line with the trend for OS updates to be free/cheap, but nonetheless it is a positive.

Going forward, all companies will support 10. support for 7 will inevitably drop as its marketshare and lifespan diminishes.

True, all previous Windows have had free support and bugfixes but not feature upgrades.

It may be irrelevant to you (I knew that from reading other comments), but the OS wasn't built to suit one person or type of person. It is undeniably another positive.

Better support for virtual desktops then. It's not a bad thing.

I use Edge all the time. I assume you're running 10. What issues did you find with it? I find it on par with Chrome and Firefox in terms of performance, better for memory usage, and obviously worse in extension support at the moment.

The appearance is of course opinion, but to me it looks so much cleaner and more modern

Nope, apps take up a tiny amount of resources if you don't use them. You can uninstall them all if your CPU is that precious.

I'm confident the antivirus is more sophisticated in 10, I don't have any issues now but on 7 and earlier I used to have a lot even with constant AV scans. but you're right, I have no evidence.

Cortana can be switched off easily. It's a nice feature.

It is much easier to encourage people to upgrade phone OS than PC OS, which is a big task and for many Windows users, including businesses and non-enthusiasts, you're less likely to get people to upgrade. Sure, it's not a "cool" OS right now, that doesn't help. But I know a hell of a lot more than 25% of PC owners who have 10.

I feel like you're just finding excuses rather than actually explaining what's better about 7. From your comments all I can see is that it doesn't have apps, which frees up a miniscule amount of CPU and memory

​and they are googling Chrome Browser Download

"Restored" OEM keys from damaged laptops, lol, big and legit "occassion".

Windows 7 is better silly

Not been in charge of MS for the best part of 10 years.

Way to be up to date.

Yes I agree. I would go further and say that every (Non Microsoft) browser that I have tried is better than edge!
It also thinks that it is a pdf reader, what a joke - is so basic compared to a number of Free alternatives.
Does anybody knows how to permanently delete this Rubbish from my computer?

Incorrect.

Fine, not disputing. All that's says is that software can be resold, absolutely nothing more. It doesn't say the software vendor has to reactive/re-enable (whatever you want to call it) a product which would be expired for the original purchaser.

Your opinion, not what the statement you quoted says. "CAL" is also irrelevant, that's volume licensing, not what is being discussed here.

Link as requested:
https://www.microsoft.com/OEM/en/licensing/sblicensing/Pages/transfer_oem_licenses.aspx#fbid=eU_YGXD00uG

The devil is in the detail, the words matter in a legal argument. I can't be bothered to argue this; Microsoft states the licensing on their website. Don't you think if they're lying then they'd be forced to retract it by now, after-all it's been the situation for 20 years or so?

Personally I couldn't care, people know they're getting a bargain and mostly don't care. Just saying people should realise that it's somewhat shady so they'll not miffed IF it stops working.

Side note, they spell 'Professional' wrong on that site...

No it doesn't! It's using the built-in PDF reader that's in Windows 10, just the same as if you clicked a PDF on the desktop. Chrome has it's own PDF reader, Internet Explorer and Edge do not. Install an alternative (and set as default) if you like.

Not tried the ISO lately myself so can't say. However, you can use the free for assisted technology method if you don't mind a little white lie.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade

Look above, way up..........there goes my sarcasm whooshing over your head :smile:

Please note it took all my strength to not post the double facepalm pic.

Actually I couldn't resist

Yet another thread I wanted to read for information ruined but pointless arguing. Great.

Indeed I am, I apologise if my sarcastic and what I thought was clearly written as a joke did not meet with your approval or tickle your funny bone. I will have a serious chat to my comedy writing team, they've really dropped the ball on this one.

I'm sorry you don't have an attention span.
Or the decency to read something I spent time writing......
(Would have been less rude to just not reply, yet you couldn't resist the slap in the face "TL;DR")

Enjoy your willful ignorance, it will serve you well for sure.:sunglasses:

https://london-computers-online.co.uk/windows-7-professional-32-64-bit?gclid=CN2VvpX-hdACFcE_Gwod848Fuw

what about this? half the price and upgrade-able?

oh much better :confused:

http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/london-computers-online.co.uk

Glad we got sorted out, I hate to think I'd hit a nerve :smile:

yep a scam site & you can't pay with Paypal

Not sure if this is the right way to judge...
For http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/hotmail.com you get "Low Trust Rating. This Site May Not Be Safe to Use.".

I bought Office 2013 Professional from eBay a couple years for £15. Still going strong so heat from me

nearly brand new car, only driven by old lady once a month...

riiiight

A Bulgarian website calling itself London Computers Online. I believe it's the right way to judge. If alarm bells haven't yet started to ring then lord help you. And everyone knows Hotmail is the work of the Devil.

That site has no contact info, a Gmail account and dirt cheap software licences. I don't think it gets much more obviously dodgy unless they had a flashing animation saying "100% honest software, it's not pirated, honest, really, see our totally genuine reviews that definitely weren't written by my friends and family"

Got mine £8 off ebay

no no we get the idea :laughing:

They should pay us for testing their O/S

Just in time! Building my firs pc. Question though.....So what happens when you put everything together and turn it on? Since it has no OS to begin with what does it do? Does it tell you to download windows 10?

[quote=Fleabum]I love these posts, you get them every few weeks. The keys will work for a short time but they are legally grey, and anyone with half a braincell knows an item that should be over £100 would not be sold for £14 unless its fake or knocked off.

Oh no I already voted hot and it does not let you reverse vote :disappointed:

Wow so many experts here...

I'm running Windows 7 without the License ... runs just fine

I normally use Chrome but since the last major update to Win 10 I can't scroll using the touchpad or the touchscreen, so now have to scroll clicking on the scroll bar at the side. Edge works fine. Also noticed some websites don't display properly on Chrome.
I don't like Edge but sometimes have to use it because for example with the CAB website I can't see the live chat button on Chrome... it's just not displayed.

i built my little brother a new pc last year for is birthday, i paid £12 for a windows 8.1 cd key, it got blocked last month, needed to do reinstall a fresh windows. i told him he had a virus :smiley: but it was the god dam key!

Posts that deal with IT always seem to bring out the worst in correspondents on this site, this one is not unusual in that respect. I don't know why that happens, perhaps it is because IT attracts younger people with more 'fire in the belly' (but much worse spelling and grammar), or perhaps the subject just attracts more armchair experts? This is just an observation, I don't know the answer.

Regarding this post. I've added some heat: in the past I've bought 2 or 3 or these cheap licences (Windows 7 I should think), they have all upgraded perfectly well to Windows 10 at no additional cost and all continue to work. I have no idea whether Microsoft has closed off this route to its products as some claim above, but at about 10% of the cost of a new contract with Microsoft it is a good deal (which is what we are measuring on this site).

Thank you for that information luvsadealdealdeal. I have no idea whether you are correct or not, but your post does rather support my observation about spelling and grammar in IT related posts.
Best wishes,
O

I have recently installed few physical OEM win 7 directly with win 10 flash drive and entering the product key from the sticker. Worked nicely :smiley:

Windows 10 now go directly on your Microsoft account if you have that setup; I can confirm that since I bought one oem key; a year ago and it's still working perfectly on my 3rd computer.

I wouldn't say it's better.. feels pretty dated now these days. Windows 10 can be easily configured to restrict what data it shares etc. 10 is fast, smooth and feels far superior to the ageing 7

I've got a home computer running Vista, still pretty powerful, and wanting to upgrade the OS would I need to upgrade to windows 7 before 10? Not bothered if a clean install is required. Cheers

Is this known as a fact or that it just hasn't happened yet? - I'd be surprised Microsoft can't block a newly created Win10 key if it was generated / upgraded from a blacklisted W7 or W8 key. Funny if it didn't though!

Talk about irony.

MS don't keep a record of the previous product key (ie W7 or W8/8.1) that you used to upgrade to W10. So you just have a machine with a brand new W10 key and no way for anybody to tell what the previous product key was (well, unless you a forensic computer scientist, I suppose :smiley: )

I actually massively preferred 8 to 10. Once you got a decent start menu on it, 8 was fine whereas 10 seems to be on a constant crusade towards **** me off.

Well spotted!

Cheaper on ebay £8 ish

Microsoft Refurbishers can get licences for $6 each (Citizenship Licences) which work in exactly the same way as OEM Keys. Selling them this way breaks the terms of the agreement, but they are working keys for Windows 10 Pro. If they are selling you a key, chances are they are using the Refurbisher Program against the agreement. Doubt Microsoft will revoke the keys though.

On the Forcing Updates Front. if you get the 'PRO' version you can turn it off (of course, they can't force companies to update ...) but normal Home edition it's the worst feature I have ever seen. I have a MC I use with a WEBCAM for talking on SKYPE (well, not me, my kids, you know, Parents forget about you once you have children, hehe). And every time I turn the thing on it's FREAKING updating. An absolutely nightmare.

Hmrc are implementing windows 10 as we speak.

The privacy aspect took some tweaks, but they have agreements in place ensuring customer security is not compromised.

Hence why HMRC have implemented so many new online services in the last 24 months.

This actually working for people then? I always get very cautious with these cheap Windows deals

If you have a windows 7 key you can still use it to activate windows 10 provided it's the same version ie. Win 7 pro key will work on Win 10 Pro.

If you want Microsoft to snoop on your every file, installed program, computer usage, compulsory "upgrades", be my guest. I will never ever move from my Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Edition which I obtained at a very good price on the internet and doesn't stop me from doing whatever I want on the computer.

Windows 7 users can still upgrade to windows 10 for free

Upgrade for free

Might seem rather long winded, but if you're already on an activated copy of Windows 7, you can still upgrade to Win10 (Windows 10 free upgrade for customers who use assistive technologies).

I did this and I was up and running on Windows 10 within an hour.

After this, if you want a fresh install you can browse to Settings (in Windows 10) > Recovery and use the 'Reset this PC' option to essentially factory reset everything.

Also in the initial Windows 10 setup I would turn off all of the sharing and etc options.

Windows 8.1 > Windows 10

Windows 10 so far for me, is a nuker of audio devices.

Nothing works properly with it, USB mics, audio interfaces, all down the crapper.

If you're into recording or streaming, this thing is a disaster.

Try googling Windows 10 Certified Soundcard. Good luck!

Win 10 also has some ugly habits, every major update resets your app preferences. Last time the update forced me to log in with a live account which I don't use/don't want to use. Had to repeat the steps of getting rid of it.

Win 10 is basically a malware to me. Wish I'd stayed on 7. If it wasn't for games support, I'd be full time on Linux by now.

This is what happens if you use Win 10 OEM - I found out the hard way after paying £25 for a copy from a relatively legit looking website - wont make that mistake again.

If you're considering buying from here, just pirate it instead.

Don't be a moron. It's clearly still piracy when the key is £13.96.

The only difference is some scummer profits from the piracy.

Excellent repost :-)

How is HUKD allowing this vendor?

Better browser? :confused:

Who the hell uses Internet Explorer anymore? It's all about Firefox, Chrome or/and Opera.

It's weird they use the term 'shipped' when they sell digital keys so it should be 'delivered' if anything.

Yet HUKD doesn't allow Alza deals to be posted here. Shame.

why can't i download windows 10 pro on my pc which has windows 7 ultimate

It's weird they use the term 'shipped' when they sell digital keys so it should be 'delivered' if anything.
I think "shipped" implies sent, 'delivered' implies recieved.

Is there any evidence it is dodgy?

Windows 10 comes with Edge which is better than IE. Personally I prefer Chrome but the difference isn't so great now.

Well, Edge is just IE with a new face and name. Considering there's much better browsers there's no reason to use Microsoft's browser.

I reported it this morning and nothing..

Would consider Win 10 as a second OS for a new games on a dual boot machine, if I would have a GPU which support directx 12, apart from that, no way, not even for free.

It was refused by many! I was an IT contractor who dealt with banking, government & military contracts.Only because Microsoft were actually taken to court, which was actually held secretly but leaked out to the media (look it up) & lost.

They lost because yes not only does Windows 10 factually spy on you but there is no real way to stop it from doing it as it's built within the OS. Microsoft were actually forced by a court of law to go back to the drawing board & physically create a new "enterprise" edition of windows 10 which isn't sold or advertised commercially. Which is only to be distributed through big corporations which actually allows you to switch the spying off in its entirety. Whether it does or not is a different & probably much longer story.

Better off using the free 'Accessibility Upgrade' path.... Machine stays legit for the life of it. Reinstall from genuine disk afterwards, fresh install new partitions etc all works perfect.

I would pay £1396 if i could destroy Microsoft and their activity and £13960 for Google.

Can I recycle a windows 7 license (oem) from a dead laptop?

Can I ask all hukders here, what's wrong with windows 8.1 except the lack of start menu?

​That's a false statement. Under the hood Edge is totally different from Internet Explorer, they got rid of all the legacy components of the trident engine which still powers MSIE 11 (which will be supported until Win10 goes EOL, enterprise customers need MSIE11 for legacy web apps)

Please post links to the secret court cases. The enterprise version was not "back to the drawing board", was on the roadmap even before Home got announced - MS always had Enterprise versions for volume licencing customers (same for Win7 and 8/8.1). And to switch off 'spying', that's managed via group policy in Active Directory and is all very well documented.

Wow you are a really bitter individual.

Sane people use Opera.

Firefox? Seriously? The browser that has had the same memory leak for over five years and they still can't fix it, but you think it's the only choice?

great deal ordered with lots of heat added thanks

Windows 10 upgrade is still free if you require it for Assistive Technology purposes - ie touch screen or narrative for disabilities, works for normal upgrading too *wink*

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/accessibility/windows10upgrade

​Although I agree that 7 is better there is 1 big problem, MS support. I've just had to recently do a new install of my windows 7 because my computer was not running well and was shocked to see the windows update which has been running fine before I reinstalled, was now not working and all I have now is service pack 1 of 7 with no possible way of getting any of the updates which I had before. It won't even allow me to manually update on their website, this is a major problem for security and even for some of my programmes. May now be forced to upgrade too 10 :disappointed:

Great deal

14 quid and you can run Hyper V on it (provided you have a suitable setup)
I'd buy it if I was planning another build.

comment 250

Cold as I just got the same from ebay seller £5.99

Post #66 (which is also the "Top Comment") did it for me.

Its not really that comforting that they haven't even spelled the word Professional correctly at the top of the page

I don't really see what screams dodgy from that post, the Whois data looks a bit off, but I wonder if that's just from the chinese to english translation.The dodgier option would be to pay a few quid to have the whois data hidden.

It's french...

Not to say this deal is not dodgy, but the information you've provided (presumably whois for that domain) is not correct. This is what I can find for scdkey.uk.

Translated to normal English:
The domain is registered to a UK address, and no names were provided.
The server is hosted on AWS, which is typical for small businesses like this.

In other words buying from them is as dodgy as buying from some other cd keys websites.


$ whois scdkey.uk

Domain name:
scdkey.uk

Registrant:
scdkey.uk

Registrant type:
Unknown

Registrant's address:
1 st FLOOR BOWDEN HOUSE,LUCKYN LANE
BASILDON
SS14 3AX
United Kingdom

Data validation:
Nominet was not able to match the registrant's name and/or address against a 3rd party source on 23-May-2016

Registrar:
GoDaddy.com, LLP. [Tag = GODADDY]
URL: http://uk.godaddy.com

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 19-May-2016
Expiry date: 19-May-2017
Last updated: 08-Sep-2016

Registration status:
Registered until expiry date.

Name servers:
ns-137.awsdns-17.com
ns-867.awsdns-44.net

WHOIS lookup made at 13:33:53 02-Nov-2016

--
This WHOIS information is provided for free by Nominet UK the central registry
for .uk domain names. This information and the .uk WHOIS are:

Copyright Nominet UK 1996 - 2016.

$ dig +short A scdkey.uk
52.44.151.88

$ whois 52.44.151.88 | grep OrgName
OrgName: Amazon Technologies Inc.

So u can merrily keep using the same win8 key to install multiple 10s?

Particularly a clean install?

Thanks for your post burnduck, and sorry to correct you, but you are the incorrect one. Please do more research before you post incorrect information. My orignal post was based upto information that was shown from the main domain name of scdkey.com.

Their main domain name of http://www.scdkey.com, that then gets redirected based upon your source country, for instance, if you use a German VPN it directs you to scdkey.de and in the uk its scdkey.uk (or if you change the locality within the website it changes too). For example the whois.de for their German domain is a German company based out of Berlin with totally fictious details:-

Type: PERSON
Name: derek hu
Organisation: scdkey.de
Address: cuihu5 road
PostalCode: 11111
City: Berlin
CountryCode: DE
Phone: +49-1111112211
Fax: +49-1111111111
Email: Aa5436ced21bbc208ca07afd9fe2244b
Changed: 2016-05-19T12:28:15+02:00

This address is totally fictitious as are (if you investigate) a lot of the other whois information for their regional registered domain names. Looking into them further flags up more irregulaties, and I am suprised that HUKD did not see this.

Also if you investigated the 'supposed' whois address you posted, companies running from this address include FS Mackenzie Group, NTEX, SCANDI and Bowden Engineering/Transport, their are zero registered businesses at this address to do with scdkey (unless Bowden Engineering has suddenly branched out into selling global Microsoft Windows 10 keys ofc).

Regards
Flea

How can I find it?

Thanks!

It would seem that I'm the only person on here that doesn't know what "TL;DR" means, so could someone put me out of my uninformed misery and tell me, please? Don't worry, I am over 18 and not easily offended!! :confused:

Of course not - new innovative and useful features - who needs them?

It's not as if Microsoft would try to GIVE it away to increase the Win 10 market share..........oh, wait..............doh :stuck_out_tongue:

Thanks...sort of!.....there I was hoping that someone would have the grace to just answer me, rather than the standard "look it up on Google yourself, you useless ****!" approach. Oh well.....

heat

If you Google it there's a fix, but it's rather poor that the problem still exists and the fix isn't more prominently advertised by MS. Sure there's loads of people now running without updates. I think this is the one:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/3086811/microsoft-windows/microsoft-releases-kb-3161647-kb-3161608-to-fix-slow-windows-7-update-scans.html

Probably worth trying the Win 7 update rollup as may also fix this and is quicker than applying all the updates through the normal method:
http://www.howtogeek.com/255435/how-to-update-windows-7-all-at-once-with-microsofts-convenience-rollup/

Does Windows 10 even have any?

back to the deal..........can you use the standard win10 ISO to install off if you purchase this OEM license key,
or do you need to get hold of an OEM copy of win 10?

I downloaded the iso from the link on the page, installed as Windows 10 Pro and then activated using the key and it all seemed to work fine.

Gone up by a quid...
Item number
152302705250

Too long. Didn't read
Usually indicates the poster is saying there's a big bunch of text they didn't bother reading thoroughly before replying.

Thank you mate, I really appreciate your time!.......AND your willingness to give a simple question a straightforward, civil answer, rather than just referring me to Google in an unpleasant, sarcastic manner!!

In what way was it unpleasant and sarcastic?

In the way that it was unnecessary to point me towards Google, particularly with the well-known, oft-used sarcastic attempt at humour, with the link where the query is written-in for you on the Google search page, when it would have taken less time to actually reply in a civil manner, as Gavin did above. The manner of the reply was unpleasant. The manner of the reply was sarcastic. I really can't think of a way of explaining it in an easier, simpler, more basic way for you to understand.

It was hilarious and justified if you can't be arsed to google it yourself!

Got it, thanks!!!

Got a followup email asking about my experience with them. Have to say, the code worked and there's no beef from me.

O the irony:

" I really can't think of a way of explaining it in an easier, simpler, more basic way for you to understand."

There are a number of people on this site who attack others for no obvious reason, immediately being scathing, offhand, sarcastic and just downright unpleasant, backing each other up, like a gang of bullies in the playground. There's absolutely no need for it, and it serves no other purpose than to drive people away from the site or, at the very least, prevents them from feeling freely able to pass a comment or ask a question, never mind feeling secure enough to post a deal, through fear of ridicule and nastiness. People like you then 'like' their comments, as others do with your vitriol.

Perhaps you should use Google to look up the word "Troll". You will find a lot of similarities between the definition and the behaviour of you and your friends. I know I'll never 'win' an argument with people like you and I don't intend to try. I'm not going to 'feed' you any longer, so any more of your comments, or those of your mates, will be ignored.

Parasitic people who ruin gaming communities.

I don't think it could be possible to make most MMO communities more toxic than they have already made themselves. At the end of the day not everyone has the time to farm and mine for endless hours but occasionally want to go on a quest with their mates.

Any financial company (and allot of others) will want to be 1000% sure the spying/data gathering is completely switched / deactivated off with no chance of being re-activated. There are massive issues should this data be stored within a US jurisdiciton.

I think that information is mirror domains like *.de *.uk etc. So hard to find who is owner that website.

No ones attacked you but you have attacked people and ones that have helped you.

Seriously you should print this out and show it to your GP.

Delusional, paraconid and the fact that you did not even ask the person who used the term indicates something is not right.

Straight up, no BS show this to your GP

I wish I had done when in a similar state.

It does takes ages to do updates on a clean Win 7 install this year, make sure your power is set to performance mode so PC doesn't go to sleep and start looking again. Download the Windows system update readiness tool, restart windows then run the tool, follow instructions - it may take an hour or two then restart when finished and check for updates again and leave all day and night if necessary.

Why?

Do people actually pay for windows? :man:

Updated article: http://www.infoworld.com/article/3136677/microsoft-windows/how-to-speed-up-windows-7-update-scans-forever.html

Windows 10 is the reason I've not upgraded my somewhat elderly pc, when I do, it's very unlikely to be running something written by Microsoft, Apple or Google.

Microsoft will obviously deny it, but I sometimes wonder if they don't shut these sites down right away because they see the benefits of locking everyone into a world defined by their rules?

Cold Scam

I use it for business and just use a tool called Destroy Windows Spying, it also switches off updates plus does loads of other things. Why do people always assume things or state incorrect facts without checking????

OR you could just use the microsoft upgrader here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/accessibility/windows10upgrade

I used to just download it and use activators. But now you can get a Win7 license for £7 and upgrade to Win10 with this: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/accessibility/windows10upgrade

I can see why some very poor people would choose not to pay, but the price is so low for the genuine thing, it saves effort.

I work in IT and deal with refurbishers often. They get licenses dirt cheap from Microsoft in order to resell equipment. Often they will sell these keys on the side. They are genuine, although shouldn't be sold like this. Never had a problem using them.

Looks like you previously had tried to crack your copy.

Actually I don't think anyone uses Opera. Firefox is used by everyone that knows what they are doing.

Does this still work?

Just posted, enjoy...... :smiley:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/freebies/shutup-windows-10-free-antispy-tool-for-windows-10-2541217

i am building pc myself. can I buy processor with windows preinstalled?

Just pay with Paypal and any problems you get a refund....simple

That's not how it works. I'd suggest watching some YouTube videos on building your own PC before attempting.

For the first 6 months I believe.

Yes - I pay for all my software. You don't I take it?
£85 for a copy of Windows 10 that I can move from computer to computer, so lasts me the life of the OS. If Windows 10 lasts for 5 years it has cost me £17 a year, extremely reasonable for something I use every day.
Sorry you feel the world owes you a living.

Almost everyone does. Most new PC's have Windows License on them so you pay for it at that time, may people may just not see it that way. Some home build systems from parts will not get a license this way but that will be limited to a small number of people.

Intresting. Could you tell me what lookup site you used to get that info?

Use a website like http://whois.domaintools.com, enter the domain name and domaintools will come back with the registration details. This is the full information for scdkey.com :-

Whois Record for ScDkEy.com
How does this work?
Whois & Quick Stats
Email is associated with ~18,009 domains
is associated with ~282 domains
Registrar CENTURY ORIENTAL INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD.
Registrar Status ok
Dates Created on 2013-11-22 - Expires on 2017-11-22 - Updated on 2016-05-12
Name Server(s) NS-179.AWSDNS-22.COM (has 13,809 domains)
NS-755.AWSDNS-30.NET (has 7,311 domains)
IP Address 52.44.151.88 - 12 other sites hosted on this server
IP Location United States - Virginia - Ashburn - Amazon Technologies Inc.
ASN United States AS14618 AMAZON-AES - Amazon.com, Inc., US (registered Nov 04, 2005)
Domain Status Registered And Active Website
Whois History 47 records have been archived since 2008-11-24
IP History 21 changes on 15 unique IP addresses over 8 years
Registrar History 2 registrars with 2 drops
Hosting History 10 changes on 8 unique name servers over 8 years
Whois Server whois.51web.hk
Website
Website Title SCDKey – Global Digital Game Keys & Cards Marketplace

Server Type nginx
Response Code 200
SEO Score 80%
Terms 1490 (Unique: 411, Linked: 613)
Images 138 (Alt tags missing: 20)
Links 276 (Internal: 216, Outbound: 1)

Domain Name:scdkey.com
Registry Domain ID:1836412623_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server:whois.51web.hk
Registrar URL:www.51web.com
Last updated Date:2015-04-27 17:14:37.0
Creation Date:2013-11-22T11:30:17.0z
Expiration Date:2017-11-22T11:30:17.0z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date:2017-11-22T11:30:17.0z
Registrar:CENTURY ORIENTAL INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD.
Registrar IANA ID:1632
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone:4000120151
Reseller:
Domain Status:ok http://www.icann.org/epp#ok
Registrant Name:ChengDuShiJiDongFangWangLuoTongXingYouXianGongSi
Registrant Organization:ChengDuShiJiDongFangWangLuoTongXingYouXianGongSi
Registrant Street:ChengDuShiGaoXingQuTianYiJie38HaoLiXiangZhongXin1Dong902Shi
Registrant City:ChengDu
Registrant State/Province:SiChuanSheng
Registrant Postal Code:610000
Registrant Country:CN
Registrant Phone:+86.4000120151
Registrant Fax:+86.028-61554799
Registrant Email:


Then using this information you can then expand the search using a website like http://website.informer.com/. This will then bring back other affiliated websites based on the Registrant Name. And then use the results from there to do further analysis.

The information is all freely available on the net, you just need to be good at searching. Hope that helps.

Regards
Flea

Just because you can steal something doesn't mean that you should.
As soon as you say "Stealing from Microsoft is OK but stealing from an old lady is wrong" you have to draw a line somewhere where there's a crossover. Where would you draw yours?

OMG :confused: . Save yourself some cash & heartache and go buy a preassembled one.

Why do users always assume you need to install 3rd party tools to turn off settings or add functions that are already included with the os.
I turned all that off during the upgrade and you can still do that in settings after upgrade.
Learn how to use Windows

"It does loads of other things"
What a technical statement coming from a person advising people to install 3rd party software

I had the Win10 Pro FREE upgrade last year from Win7 pro.

Now my hard drive has died and I don't know how to install my Win 10 on new hard drive?

Any suggestions???

Take a butchers at this:-
How to do a Clean Install of Windows 10, the Easy Way

Regards
Flea

This describes HUKD to a tee. I barely post on here because people like to start arguments and gang up against people. It's a very hateful site at times which is a real shame.

I know, it is a shame, because a lot of the 'banter' on here is meant in fun and makes for interesting, amusing reading. It's the usual thing of the 'few' spoiling it for the 'many'. You want to be careful though, sticking your head above the parapet, you're going to get ordered into therapy, like I have been, not only for being delusional, but it's also apparently infected my teeth.......at least that's what my new and trusted friend Google tells me about my "paraconid" (post #282) problems! :confused:

guys serious comment. At work a colleague of mine ordered several of these keys against my advice 6 months ago. all those keys have been blocked by Microsoft now. These will work, but will be locked out in 6 months. Don't waste your money.

You don't buy these keys for work unless you want to get audited.

Stop acting like its the peoples fault here. I figure you want to place your blame somewhere and doing it to the people here isn't the way just because its less effort than you to contact the website directly, but still gives you that holier-than-though feeling that you so obviously crave. I figured this was legit before I opened the thread because theres OEM software of Windows for this price everywhere and has been for well over a decade.

Anyway, if the keys work then aren't they surely legit? I need a copy of Windows for a barebones PC im getting anyway.

Brought and works fine for me, I'm gussing if Microsoft does block the code in six months time I could still claim my money back via PayPal so seems a winner all round to me

Could you do the steps listed here and report back?: http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/49586-windows-license-type-determine-if-oem-retail-volume.html

It's not a "holier than thou" attitude at all. If you want illegal, pirated software then you go for it. I don't know where you get the idea that "Well it works, so it has to be legit" comes from, but I can say that is definitely not the case.
There is absolutely NOWHERE you can get a legitimate Windows 10 Pro key for £15. The alrge OEM's like Dell, HP pay Microsoft a lot more than that to pre-install the OS onto their machines, nobody anywhere is getting licenses for this price. No I'm not making a guess here, I know this is the case.
I don't need to contact any websites to know that something is not legitimate, I simply use my head - is this item considerably cheaper than it can be purchased legitimately? Yes, then this is not legit.
These sites, that sell non-legit stuff love customers like yourself, the ones that feel because they are paying "some amount of money" then it has to be the real deal and as it appears that you don't give a damn about the legitimacy of your software then as said, you go for it.
But don't buy this and think you've got anything legit. Don't hink you've been a good boy spending some money on buying an OS, all you're doing is lining some other person's pocket. If you don't care about legitimacy and if you think pirating sortware is fine then do it yourself, don't pay someone else to do it for you!

"Use your head" seems as flawed as assuming it's legit because you paid £X, surely the only proof is cold, hard evidence (hopefully someone who purchased one can come back and tell us what sort of key it is).

As for OEMs paying more than this for licenses, prices are based on the value of the machine, about 5% with some even being free. Plenty of posts in here have discussed the $6 refurb licenses.

Do consider that they might be paying for convenience. Even if the key is hookey, to some it's worth a few quid to get an activated copy without having to run 'TEAM_LIQUID-PEN0R_Win10-Craxk_xXx.exe'.

Interesting tool, but probably more than needed for the task at hand.

And by that I meant finding out the source of these keys, what did you think I meant?

It's oem

So these are one machine linked, but probably not going to conk out like a VLK.

Yes, I'm gussing their bulk codes which have never been assigned to anything before so should be fine.

...or, just update the 'secret' 'free' way.

Which is not that secret, working in IT, we still upgrade PC's with this from Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/accessibility/windows10upgrade

Microsoft have been pushing Windows 10 for over a year, they still want people to go to it as it will soon turn into a subscription based system. They still want the people who want to upgrade for free to be able to do so, so are offering this method of doing so. "Assistive Technologies" is a very broad term.

Are these 100% OEM keys?

Other people have checked, and they are OEM. The source of them is unknown, but they're not VLKs.

why not just go to win8.1
nothing is worse than win10... Well hate win8 but 8.1 is not too bad

The UI for 8/8.1 is not ideal for Desktops - it was touchscreen first. 10 is far easier to use with a mouse.

Cheaper on eBay

My friend just pointed me at this deal, and I expressed caution to him, and he said there's lots of good reviews, they're even on trustpilot... I told him a cautionary tale about my sons experience with an iPhone unlock site, I bought my daughter an S7edge and she gave her iPhone6S to her brother, her network EE said they wouldn't unlock it for her until mid December, I don't know why? Anyway he was getting impatient for it to be unlocked, and found a site that was offering an unlock for £18, same again he researched and found loads of good reviews. So tried them out, they mailed him saying they wanted another £50 to unlock, and wouldn't refund him the £18. Needless to say Barclays fraud dept. sorted it out. (quick note: paypal isn't always the safest way to pay, they let me down recently). I found out that apparently they release loads of bogus good reviews, to drown out the bad reviews on search engines etc.
BTW look at the purple and white windows 10 graphic on the site, It says Professionnel - nice spelling of the word Professional.

"Hmmm, this Amazon website seems to have pretty good reviews... But I better not use it because smoggieboon once got ripped off of a different website that had good reviews..."

And yes, that is a nice spelling of the word professional, it's the French spelling. Everyone knows that the French are a heck of a lot classier than us.

just £12.38 now!

Don't you just love an extensive, sometimes contentious discussion between a wide variety of people some of whom have differing and often deeply-held views and opinions on something like this? I've read through most of this, and still confess to being not entirely wiser about the longer-term viability of this offer.
That was a wordy way of saying.......I'm still not entirely sure if this is a good deal or a waste of a few of my pounds.
My thinking is that I already run four machines using Windows 10 Pro licences that were purchased from sites like this (but note, NOT this site specifically), and I've had no issues with activation, updates, or operation. I'm going to take a risk on this, and buy one more licence. At only (currently) £12.38, I consider it worthy of a punt.

Always get my keys from http://stores.ebay.co.uk/activateitnow/ keep them saved in your sellers. Had several W10 keys and never a dud key and all around the £8 mark.

Some people, being those who know nothing about computers and will be stuck in the dark ages. I loved W7, but W10 is far better for stability and with PCs nowadays everything has to be at the same level or you get issues. It's not expensive going from W7 to W10, many got it for free.

Can't belive you recomended these cowboys Opp ! I paid for my DVD but never recieved anything!

It's a CDkey, not a physical copy

Purchased when it was around £12.90. Works flawlessly. Just a heads up for people who are not sure. I'm 100% sure if you build your own PC and use an OEM key, you are in perfect legal standing.

I've been using the internet since I was a baby. I'm so used to seeing bogus sites/reviews I can instantly tell if a site is fake or not. But that's irrelevant to my post, were you not aware the website is a chinese company, here's the address clearly stated on their website; Company Address: C2 Building No.129, West Cuihu No.5 Road, Economic and Technological Development District, Tongling City, Anhui Province, China

Lots of 'STAY WAY IT'S NOT LEGIT' in this thread, but no one who has ACTUALLY had a bad experience with a Windows 10 OEM key. I've used these keys dozens times for builds and never a problem... only mugs pay full price, MS have you wrapped around their little finger thinking you must pay full price and if it's seen cheaper then it MUST be a con! LOL, chumps!

Bought one on eBay on Thursday. Cost me 5.50.

never received cashback. Anyone else with this problem?

only £13.96 to pay M$ to spy on you? hot!

any good site for MS office key?

Will look forward to seeing you whine on the internet when your key gets disabled, and for the record maybe you should do some research, because back with Windows Vista I was one of the people that had my key disabled due to Microsoft doing a massive ban wave of dodgy keys which many news sites writ an article about.

Well I've had two keys from them, both activated fine. These keys are supplied with work computers/laptops to businesses who then install Windows 7 enterprise. They have no use for them and I guess it's either them or their IT supplier/department selling them on. I guess if they reported then there would be a very long winded process of collecting all the keys and blocking them.

edit: if you type cmd in the run box
slgmgr -dli

it will tell you these are OEM licensed not volume licensed which is what I suspect your Vista key was.

Windows Vista LOL! HAHA! You do realise the whole authentication system for Win 10 has TOTALLY changed now, and there is no reason to expect keys to be banned. I have not read a single case of this happening, only the odd case of a key not activating in the first place, which is easily resolved with the retailer... more so if you pay by Paypal.

I have checked my emails I never recieved my key from them. For those who have which email address did it come from?

[email protected] though the actual email just sends you a link to go to
http://www.scdkey.com/user/order

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