We need to be more cautious with internet connected gizmos, because how secure is this camera? Plenty of IP cams have been hacked (with access to video OR they have been turned into a bot to carry out attacks), and from what I read the cheap Chinese devices seem to be the easiest to hack...
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/22/cyber-attack-hackers-weaponised-everyday-devices-with-malware-to-mount-assault
Hmmm, the default user name and password of this internet connected camera are in the Mirai source code (which was used for the attacks last week..) :-o

I have a Sricam, SP009, I assume since this uses a QR code, it uses the same method of connection as mine. I don't like using the app, the camera uses P2P to connect, a lot of these IP cameras are these days. I checked my firewall logs and it's constantly talking to P2P servers, mostly in China. I didn't like this at all, so I blocked the camera from talking to the internet. You can't use the app at all anymore but I use a third party onvif app internally (and externally using a VPN). Unfortunately the app doesn't display the camera @ 720p, it drops down to a SD resolution instead, might be my model only though.

For the money, it is a bargain, the quality is noticeably better than my older SD Foscam when using the Sricam app, I just don't trust it. I may be paranoid :confused: , I just don't feel comfortable with it as camera inside of my house.

Looks good for the price! Can you comment on video quality and usability of the viewing app? :smiley:

How does the app work with this? Do you have to mess around with DNS and IPs or is it plug and play?

A third party app i'd recommend for this once setup is Tinycam.

good but there was one for £10 on Amazon. best deal that was

Ok, thanks for the info, I will probably buy it when I get home tonight :smiley:

I have a Sricam, SP009, I assume since this uses a QR code, it uses the same method of connection as mine. I don't like using the app, the camera uses P2P to connect, a lot of these IP cameras are these days. I checked my firewall logs and it's constantly talking to P2P servers, mostly in China. I didn't like this at all, so I blocked the camera from talking to the internet. You can't use the app at all anymore but I use a third party onvif app internally (and externally using a VPN). Unfortunately the app doesn't display the camera @ 720p, it drops down to a SD resolution instead, might be my model only though.

For the money, it is a bargain, the quality is noticeably better than my older SD Foscam when using the Sricam app, I just don't trust it. I may be paranoid :confused: , I just don't feel comfortable with it as camera inside of my house.

the problem with the ONVIF compatible part is finding the correct camera name as the one that is displayed in the setup and app is not necessarily the one that a third party ONVIF app would use. I recently bought another brand and i had to use tinycam to find the real camera name. tinycam will display 2 for it. when that was put in it worked perfectly with surveillance station on my synology NAS. before this it couldn't find it. Agree about the app though due to the routing it can be very laggy when watching. connecting directly my NAS I have a lot better results for playback and the app is also smaller in size and less of a hog.

Have you checked what ONVIF profiles are available? The default profile on one of my IP cams is only SD, so I have to select the 720p profile manually in most Onvif apps, or else edit the rtsp stream url.

£18.40 for me? Is there a code?

Guess it's the exchange rate, says £17.20 on the site, buy the time you buy it with pp it's £18.44, just a heads up, I ordered anyway always wanted to have a play with an ip camera, so cheers Op

We need to be more cautious with internet connected gizmos, because how secure is this camera? Plenty of IP cams have been hacked (with access to video OR they have been turned into a bot to carry out attacks), and from what I read the cheap Chinese devices seem to be the easiest to hack...
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/22/cyber-attack-hackers-weaponised-everyday-devices-with-malware-to-mount-assault
Hmmm, the default user name and password of this internet connected camera are in the Mirai source code (which was used for the attacks last week..) :-o

Can you install this camera outside a house or is it indoor only? If it's indoor only will it have problems looking through a window at nighttime?

Guessing this is indoors

Hey, I'm using TinyCam Pro on Android. I've found onvif1 and onvif2, one is low def and the other is even lower def :confused: I have the same problem when adding it to my QNAP

Can you pan and tilt over 4g, alot saying wifi only?....would be pretty pointless if so?

Cheers op, I've bought it now so thanks, and cheers for confirmation over 4g :smile:

bought one 2 try £17.20 free p+p
http://www.gearbest.com/ip-cameras/pp_330678.html?utm_campaign=7988612&utm_source=cj&utm_medium=affiliate&from=affiliate_cj

Thanks for this as I'm in the process of improving the security at my mums house.

I thought about purchasing one to use with my QNAP NAS, but it doesn't appear on the list of compatible cameras.

Coming from China, if accurately valued on the label, aren't you going to get hit by VAT and a lovely £8 handling fee?

If this is constantly uploading to a server, how does this effect your broadband usage? I'm on unlimited, but only within reason.

got a flourean same as this from eBay if you look for bidding ones you can pick one up in UK fast delivery came next day for £18.59. only problem is synology won't do sound or move it just record but going to give this tiny cam app a go see if it will give me a name to go by to better configure it. it works really well though for the money quite impressed

I have this one. Works wonders. Points at the back door and setup to email me on movement. GUI is poor but easy enough to understand.

yes my pretties, join my hive, the botnet is up on you.

Been looking to get something similar as backup to alarm. Think I'll get it from eBay though.

Joining a botnet near you soon!

was looking for one like this but POE, if any of u experts could maybe point me to a cam like this but with Poe and ip please ?

thanks HEAT added

I'm quite happy with the night quality,

Brave leaving anything from a Chinese sweatshop plugged in over night

Might as well unplug your Samsung, iPhone or Sony phone then too.

Mine has just been dispatched now and I only ordered it this afternoon!

For anyone worried about customs - I've just checked the photo that Gearbest post up of the parcel and address label - it is being shipped by Yodel and is being sent from the UK - so no customs :sunglasses:

There is only the choice of China warehouse. As above, just choose the priority line dispatch. Despite saying China warehouse its being dispatched from the UK. For some reason this quicker delivery option is free.

Thanks, I've ordered one...more cos I like gadgets than anything else. Discovered that I had some points that were coming up to their expiry date so it was only £12.18p! I was miffed that I missed the IP camera from Amazon posted the other week, hopefully this is a good alternative?

I don't own one of these but I believe the default login is a unique identifier for the username and 888888 for the password, which makes it more secure than having a username of 'admin' or 'root'.

I notice you didn't include a link to the Mirai source code, probably because this model is in fact NOT present in it. Here is a comprehensive list which saves trawling through the source code: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/who-makes-the-iot-things-under-attack/

Can you disable the IR on this to allow night vision through a window?

Their CE tested and kite marked, these are made in sweatshops by 5 year olds. Cheap for a reason.

forgot to mention mine on red colours turns it a bit pink I have seen this on other reviews not a deal breaker not sure if they are all affected. plus when I first plugged it in it turned around pointed up and had a massive hissy fit I thought it was broken but just leave it it sorts itself out does every time I unplug it

I was about to get one of these when my friend said 'get a FLOUREON!', I immediately said that I have never been anywhere exotic so I couldn’t have caught anything tropical and then I realised they were on about an IP Cam! :laughing: I was looking for a comparison with this cam and found this :
Sricam vs Floureon

junk cameras, all the same electronics rebadged a million times, same as the hover boards. First one auto focus made a constant annoying noise had to open up to disconnect it and had to resort to manual focus by twisting the lens, other one won't connect over WiFi but works remotely connected over cellular. Constantly forget their 4 configured view angles. Oh also the apps havent even been updated for the iphone 6 screen res.

I didn't notice you could switch to GBP was shopping on mobile and just paid dollars. Whoops. Cost me about £1 more I think. Still a good deal, shouldn't have rushed though!!

gearbest? no thanks. worst company on the planet for customer care and focus. money money money

According to the review here:- http://www.gadgetvictims.com/2016/05/sricam-sp012-p2p-hd-ip-camera-review.html

this model doesn't have an IR Cut filter (an IR filter that slides over the sensor during daylight), which means that colours will be unrealistic. I think all the other 720p pan and tilt cameras I've ever looked at have one, and I think it is worth paying a little more for.

ok so new to looking at WiFi cameras but what the difference between this and others of a similar price on banggood? for instance
http://www.banggood.com/Digoo-BB-M1-Wireless-WiFi-USB-Baby-Monitor-Alarm-Home-Security-IP-Camera-HD-720P-Two-Way-Audio-p-1083520.html?rmmds=search
I know the 2nd is a baby monitor but surely will do the same job? sorry if this sounds a silly question

Looks like that's a fairly new camera with a nicer design than the traditional sircam look. The only things I can see is that it doesn't have an ethernet port and the wifi antenna must be internal which may impact reception.

Bang good seem to be pushing this a lot (includes a photo of the rear) ->https://blog.banggood.com/digoo-bb-m1-baby-monitor-review-50761.html

This one is even cheaper and also has IR Cut :
Digoo BB-M2 Mini

Bangood have also got a 720p ip camera module for under £15 (ethernet only, no wifi) http://www.banggood.com/Hi3518E-720P-IR-Night-Vision-F3_6mm-Lens-IP-Camera-Module-Network-CMOS-PCB-Board-1_0-Megapixel-p-1041748.html?rmmds=search

Could be mounted outside in an old floodlight case and use with an external IR illuminator.

this is on preorder till the 22nd of november

you too can't be part of the largest botnet in the world lol

These are pretty good for the money.
I posted this when they were on offer last time around. Good movable, nightvision camera with good quality picture. Only downsides I could find was couldn't work out how to set up to auto record if someone enters the room & the speaker was too quiet to hear when you tried to speak through it using the app. None of this matters too much when you consider what your getting for the money though!

The reason why they’re selling these off at a discount is because the Sp012 is a Sricam Sp009 in a pan/tilt casing and from July the Sp009 has been upgraded with an IR Cut, so there will be a new Sp012 with IR Cut coming out soon, allegedly! :wink:

For me this was a test to see how much I would use a camera and for my £18 I am impressed. My next camera will be synology ds cam approved so I can use it properly. I don't use a synology nas I use xpenology in a vm on my gen8 microserver I think spending double or triple more will be worth it. had no issues with this talking to the kids on 4g or home wireless is crystal clear

How long did the 'Priority Line' shipping roughly take in days from purchase, dispatch time to delivery?

Out of the actual owners of the SP012, would you say this video is a true reflection of the product?
Sricam vs Floureon

And yes, I am interested in buying one, but got a short time-frame for sorting it out (like most from my list of chores lol!) :wink:

And also, when the night vision activates is it subtle or do the LEDs basically light up the room? :sunglasses:

Mine delivered today, wish all Gearbest orders where like this, Fantastic service!!

Can I view the cam out and about using my 4G network? Or will I need to be connected to a WiFi?

Is this model better or worse than the FLOUREON SP012?

Mine still isn't despatched?! Gearbest say it will take a further 7 to 14 days before they send!

got mine in 8 days, easy to set up and picture ok, used to check on the dogs while i'm out and about, so just bought another one.

are they suitable for outdoor use? are they weather or waterproof?

Received mine and I think they are pretty poor so you get what you pay for. Just be aware that all config needs to be via the app, there is no web interface like you use to get on the foscams, which is ok although you do need to sign up to their service and who knows how long it will be supported for (getting more frustrated by the trend to rely on sh*tty cloud services/apps). Its not clear whether the cams themselves punch holes through your firewall as a quick scan of ports below 1024 didn't show anything. After wired config I also blocked all traffic out and it seemed to still work within my network although WiFi config kept failing until I removed the block and also rebooted the router. As I think mentioned above, no IR Cut filter so colours can be off and there is no way to disable the ir led's at night, other than covering them up, so lots of reflection off the window.
TBH I could have lived with most of this but my main gripe is that the WiFi range is just so short and the throughput quite low. Hence they will need to be wired which means I can't use them for what I intended to. Debating whether to go through the hassle of returning them.

With motion detecting on:
does it only send an image or can it also send few seconds of video through email?