This deal seems to always be on but they adjust the payments. However I believe this is the cheapest it's been.
Diesel Skoda Octavia vRS with Nav and metallic paint, 10k miles a year for £159 a month, £2490 deposit. Excess mileage is 8.4p a mile which isn't bad.
Yes - this is more expensive than a 6yr old BMW, thanks for letting us know.
Yes - you don't own the car, again thanks for informing us of that.
Yes - it's only 10,000 miles a year if you do more then find another deal.
2 Year Deal
- Zuulan
Top comments
groenleader
4 Oct 167#4
Why I would think about things before this deal:
Lots of these in our fleets and the VRS diesel have been popular in all their variants. These ones are having issues there is a flat spot and hesitation which occurs at about 1500 -1800 RPMs, esp. when you come off gas and then get back on it, say slowing down for someone who steps off the pavement. Lights that are just going green as you roll along etc.
Skoda have failed to acknowledge this issue for ages, no fault codes are logged. Its just come to a head of late that its actually the C02 management software (yeah that lying bag of....!) which actually stops the car from boosting for a second (always on a down change), almost like a faulty waste gate for the turbo.
Its annoying, it makes the driving not very smooth, who would knowingly take on a car the hesitates then surges.
Its now been noted by many, many drivers, look on the Skoda forums (briskoda etc) and you see many disappointed customer.
Skoda are currently offering no solution b/c there isn't one according to them. I notice new engines are scheduled for 2017/18!
Biggunspaul
4 Oct 165#8
Does it come with the heated rear screen to keep your hands warm when pushing it :wink:
ahenners
4 Oct 163#3
Sorry OP cold from me. Simpsons are a decent dealer (my local) but Lookers Stockport can beat this deal if you want one of these. £1619.91 upfront with £179.99 a month, total = £5,759.68. 10k allowance.
I think we will have to agree to disagree. I (and 45.9% of drivers) like diesels, in particular the compression ignition engine's inherent advantage in thermodynamic efficiency (over the spark ignition engine) that will always lead to better specific fuel efficiency for diesel cars, which must be good for the environment and our pockets.
No government (not even the Labour administrations that presided over the increase in popularity of diesels) has lied to us owners, the information is plain to see.
There are advantages and demerits of diesels and petrol cars (I have one of each), but very clearly neither is 'complete crap' (your words), so let's just leave it there.
ollie87
7 Oct 16#53
Electric I can understand, I very nearly bought a Renault Zoe recently as it was a lovely little car, just a little slow and short on range for my needs.
As for diesel I'll just never get my head around it, people are used to buying them I guess, since being lied to by the government that they were a 'green' alternative to petrol. What a joke that is, they're horrendous. Your point about petrol vehicles wearing out? I've owned plenty of cars (including Alfa's) that've done more than that sort of mileage and have still run fine. And even at that mileage they're quieter and smoother than a diesel, mainly because they're not as highly stressed as a modern diesel has to be.
othen
6 Oct 16#52
... it would seem that 45.9% of drivers disagree with you and prefer diesels (plus more prefer electric power). I'm amongst them and can't really see many advantages in those inefficient spark ignition motors that wear out after only 150,000 miles...
Ho hum.
dont mack me off
6 Oct 16#51
I didn't say more i was responding to the comment 'no fun'. If you are doing loads of miles an M3 isnt the right choice as it will cost you shed loads. Please dont twist my words.
ollie87
6 Oct 16#50
More fun than a 330i? Or an M3? There's a reason the M3 isn't a diesel.
Toybhoy
6 Oct 16#43
Got a GTD too and no black spot at all. Fantastic motor and one I would recommend over the Skoda unless you need the space.
dont mack me off to Toybhoy
6 Oct 16#49
TBH i didnt notice the flat spot until the tuning box went on. Despite that I defo prefer it with the box for the driving i do.
dont mack me off
6 Oct 16#48
I don't think you can say all diesels are no fun to drive. I don't think many would say a BMW 335d is no fun for instance. Mine have been ultra reliable as well, although if you don't do many miles they likely aren't the best choice.
ollie87
6 Oct 16#47
afroylnt
6 Oct 16#46
Tks useful. I do circa 10-12k but at times allot of very short journeys with few longer ones; this is my worry. But for 2 years I accept it shouldn't be a problem.
ollie87
6 Oct 161#45
Most the stuff I can find is related to the american market, it seems Skoda vehicles just drop a little extra diesel through the engine during normal driving to up the exhaust temperature.
Another thing I read is that 12,000 is the suggested mileage for a DPF equipped vehicle, if you're around that your warranty will most likely be honoured. Which would suggest you'd be fine in this case (10,000 miles a year). Also, this is a performance diesel which will help as generally it'll get driven harder, thus the DPF will have more time to heat up.
Also, I think everyone can agree that diesel is complete crap. Not only does it hurt the environment more, it has an impact on brain and lung development in children, it smells, it sounds terrible, is less reliable and isn't fun to drive.
afroylnt
6 Oct 16#44
Many reports / entries out there on the web. so over to you.
ollie87
6 Oct 16#42
Have you any proof?
118luke
5 Oct 16#33
Cold - Its a skoda
othen to 118luke
6 Oct 161#41
... that is a bit of a daft attitude these days. I was rather circumspect before buying my first Superb estate 5 years ago, but it was an excellent car and since I have replaced it with my second (more or less the same car - 140PS diesel Elegance). When I bought the first one I compared it with the equivalent VW and Audi cars - it was the same car apart from the price (at the time about £4000 less than the VW, £7000 than the Audi). Those margins have probably narrowed in the past 5 years as people have realised what bargains Skoda are against VW and Audi).
If people want to pay thousands more for very much the same car, then they are of course able to do so, but it makes for an expensive badge to impress the neighbours.
Biggunspaul
4 Oct 165#8
Does it come with the heated rear screen to keep your hands warm when pushing it :wink:
quidstretchy to Biggunspaul
4 Oct 16#9
No, but it has one that demists the rear window
mindfulnoodle to Biggunspaul
5 Oct 16#32
And twin exhausts so it doubles as a wheelbarrow?
And can we call it a skip if it has a sunroof?
Foxy to Biggunspaul
5 Oct 16#40
The old one's are still the best..... even if they are completely irrelevant today!!
pugboy
5 Oct 16#34
I've got a Golf GTD and haven't had an issue with a flat spot. Is it just the ones made since the VW emissions scandal that do this?
I have had no issues with the DPF in over 2 years. I do mixed journeys, usually 10-20mins in duration. 9k a year. In fact I haven't had a single issue or cause for a warranty claim.
Whilst this is a good price for the VRS you would have to really need the extra space over a Golf as that works out the same (if not less) per month and has a lot more standard kit.
afroylnt to pugboy
5 Oct 16#39
Useful info. Do you see the warning coil light come on at all ? Sounds like a duration of 10-20mins (in free folowing traffic?) could be suffcient. I do allot of short journeys of circa 5-10 minutes so a bit more worried (with some longer ones obvioulsy).
josephallen
5 Oct 161#38
No, there's no way you will average 60mpg in mixed driving, whether a tuning box is fitted or not. You will get 60mpg if you cruise at 60mph on the motorway for some time, but 45mpg is what you're looking at for 'mixed' driving
ahenners
5 Oct 16#37
That's good then. I'm tempted by a tdi 184 but put off by the flat spot issue reports and some people are only getting low to mid 40's. My 2.0 TSI petrol can get close to that on a run, so I'd be hoping for high 50's in the diesel.
dont mack me off
5 Oct 161#36
I checked it before the tuning box and it would happily return 57 on my commute without driving like a granny (which is mainly motorway and B roads). I haven't noticed consumption getting worse since the box but yes the computer sometimes reports nearly 70 so know its lying! Must admit though that the tuning box really transforms the car. You really notice when you remove it for the service.
welshdad
5 Oct 16#35
in need of a new car soon. been seeing some good lease deals as of late. is anyone able to answer me on the following - is the deposit refunded at end of lease? with regards to services, does it have to go back to main dealer or can you use an independant garage? how fussy are they with condition of returned vehicles? (ie kerbed alloys)
cigbunt
5 Oct 16#31
you can remap it, probably not worth mapping a lease tho unless your getting it done cheap
afroylnt
5 Oct 16#30
you have proof? from googling you would do well to get Skoa to replace the DPF under warranty... some manufacturers consider it to just be a filter.
danbrooks9237
5 Oct 16#29
I am not sure how this works but I don't think you can remap it, though 220ps would be pretty great!!!
ollie87
5 Oct 16#28
Erm, nope. That's bull-****.
trackdayking
5 Oct 16#27
I've got this car and its sound I've had them all Audi / Vw / BMW and for the money I can't fault it......I will defo have another skoda......plus you can drive it how ya like for 2 years and hand it back #brayits*******off
iberrey
5 Oct 16#26
Audi all day long
onlineo
5 Oct 16#25
I imagine that this doesn't become an issue until you hit 50 to 100000 miles.
afroylnt
5 Oct 16#24
Because the dpf filter etc won't be included in the warranty. Manufacturer will state the car is not being used in accordance with the guidance. However you may get away with it for 2 years.
edwardw121
5 Oct 16#23
I'm going to be selling my dtuk box if anyone's interested. For the 184 engine :smiley: it's the one with the turbo adjustment too!
cigbunt
5 Oct 16#22
I under stand lease deals currently got one..
might want to check the used prices on these as well (if you really want a VRS) as their pretty good
Mada06
5 Oct 16#21
I agree with both of your replies. The way you look at a car is very different when you lease it compared to owning it outright.
afroylnt
5 Oct 16#15
Is it true that lots of short jounrey's will kill the DPF filter any asociated values (Erg on VW) leading to expensive replacments of £1k +?
othen to afroylnt
5 Oct 16#16
... I think you already know the answer to this question (so why ask it?).
ollie87 to afroylnt
5 Oct 161#20
Who cares on a lease car that has a factory warranty and you're only going to have for two years?
ollie87
5 Oct 161#19
Remapping a lease car? Has HUKD really lost the plot now?
afroylnt
5 Oct 16#18
To get feedback from people's actual experiences rather than just general advice.
ahenners
5 Oct 161#17
Do you actually get 60mpg when calculated manually? Heard that those tuning boxes really skew the indicated figures.
Andi Keane
5 Oct 161#14
Oh man if only I had the spare £££ and it was petrol
groenleader
4 Oct 167#4
Why I would think about things before this deal:
Lots of these in our fleets and the VRS diesel have been popular in all their variants. These ones are having issues there is a flat spot and hesitation which occurs at about 1500 -1800 RPMs, esp. when you come off gas and then get back on it, say slowing down for someone who steps off the pavement. Lights that are just going green as you roll along etc.
Skoda have failed to acknowledge this issue for ages, no fault codes are logged. Its just come to a head of late that its actually the C02 management software (yeah that lying bag of....!) which actually stops the car from boosting for a second (always on a down change), almost like a faulty waste gate for the turbo.
Its annoying, it makes the driving not very smooth, who would knowingly take on a car the hesitates then surges.
Its now been noted by many, many drivers, look on the Skoda forums (briskoda etc) and you see many disappointed customer.
Skoda are currently offering no solution b/c there isn't one according to them. I notice new engines are scheduled for 2017/18!
dont mack me off to groenleader
4 Oct 161#13
I have the leon 184 and can confirm there is a flat spot as you describe. Mine has a tuning box which I believe made it more noticeable for me. Despite this I would say it is a niggle on the Seat rather than a deal breaker, as the decent performance combined with nigh on 60mpg makes up for it in my view.
KCooperman
4 Oct 16#2
might want to correct the description. the diesel is not 220PS!
orgfilao to KCooperman
4 Oct 16#5
Amended, thanks. Thanks, that is a good deal. This one comes with Nav and metallic paint (which the Lookers one doesn't seem to) so if you're not interested in those the Lookers deal is better.
Lookers deal as advertised is not available.
It's now £184.99 as I ordered one last week.
It includes metallic paint (as comes as standard with lease deals) satnav is standard on this model.
£5919 10k miles per year
Biggunspaul
4 Oct 16#10
Is that for when people get frisky in the back of the taxi :smile:
karlie88
4 Oct 161#7
£220.80 per month here with initial payment of £662.40, 10ka pa and metallic paint included. Also delivered on a transporter (not usually the case). Total over term - £5740.
Sat nav is standard on the vRS.
ahenners
4 Oct 16#6
Amundsen Nav is standard spec now, so would need confirming with Lookers, but I suspect it will include it. Not sure about Metallic paint.
ahenners
4 Oct 163#3
Sorry OP cold from me. Simpsons are a decent dealer (my local) but Lookers Stockport can beat this deal if you want one of these. £1619.91 upfront with £179.99 a month, total = £5,759.68. 10k allowance.
Opening post
Diesel Skoda Octavia vRS with Nav and metallic paint, 10k miles a year for £159 a month, £2490 deposit. Excess mileage is 8.4p a mile which isn't bad.
Yes - this is more expensive than a 6yr old BMW, thanks for letting us know.
Yes - you don't own the car, again thanks for informing us of that.
Yes - it's only 10,000 miles a year if you do more then find another deal.
2 Year Deal
- Zuulan
Top comments
Lots of these in our fleets and the VRS diesel have been popular in all their variants. These ones are having issues there is a flat spot and hesitation which occurs at about 1500 -1800 RPMs, esp. when you come off gas and then get back on it, say slowing down for someone who steps off the pavement. Lights that are just going green as you roll along etc.
Skoda have failed to acknowledge this issue for ages, no fault codes are logged. Its just come to a head of late that its actually the C02 management software (yeah that lying bag of....!) which actually stops the car from boosting for a second (always on a down change), almost like a faulty waste gate for the turbo.
Its annoying, it makes the driving not very smooth, who would knowingly take on a car the hesitates then surges.
Its now been noted by many, many drivers, look on the Skoda forums (briskoda etc) and you see many disappointed customer.
Skoda are currently offering no solution b/c there isn't one according to them. I notice new engines are scheduled for 2017/18!
https://www.contracthireandleasing.com/car-leasing-companies/main-dealers/lookers-koda-stockport/skoda/octavia/111914194/
Latest comments (54)
No government (not even the Labour administrations that presided over the increase in popularity of diesels) has lied to us owners, the information is plain to see.
There are advantages and demerits of diesels and petrol cars (I have one of each), but very clearly neither is 'complete crap' (your words), so let's just leave it there.
As for diesel I'll just never get my head around it, people are used to buying them I guess, since being lied to by the government that they were a 'green' alternative to petrol. What a joke that is, they're horrendous. Your point about petrol vehicles wearing out? I've owned plenty of cars (including Alfa's) that've done more than that sort of mileage and have still run fine. And even at that mileage they're quieter and smoother than a diesel, mainly because they're not as highly stressed as a modern diesel has to be.
Ho hum.
Another thing I read is that 12,000 is the suggested mileage for a DPF equipped vehicle, if you're around that your warranty will most likely be honoured. Which would suggest you'd be fine in this case (10,000 miles a year). Also, this is a performance diesel which will help as generally it'll get driven harder, thus the DPF will have more time to heat up.
Also, I think everyone can agree that diesel is complete crap. Not only does it hurt the environment more, it has an impact on brain and lung development in children, it smells, it sounds terrible, is less reliable and isn't fun to drive.
If people want to pay thousands more for very much the same car, then they are of course able to do so, but it makes for an expensive badge to impress the neighbours.
And can we call it a skip if it has a sunroof?
I have had no issues with the DPF in over 2 years. I do mixed journeys, usually 10-20mins in duration. 9k a year. In fact I haven't had a single issue or cause for a warranty claim.
Whilst this is a good price for the VRS you would have to really need the extra space over a Golf as that works out the same (if not less) per month and has a lot more standard kit.
might want to check the used prices on these as well (if you really want a VRS) as their pretty good
I agree with both of your replies. The way you look at a car is very different when you lease it compared to owning it outright.
Lots of these in our fleets and the VRS diesel have been popular in all their variants. These ones are having issues there is a flat spot and hesitation which occurs at about 1500 -1800 RPMs, esp. when you come off gas and then get back on it, say slowing down for someone who steps off the pavement. Lights that are just going green as you roll along etc.
Skoda have failed to acknowledge this issue for ages, no fault codes are logged. Its just come to a head of late that its actually the C02 management software (yeah that lying bag of....!) which actually stops the car from boosting for a second (always on a down change), almost like a faulty waste gate for the turbo.
Its annoying, it makes the driving not very smooth, who would knowingly take on a car the hesitates then surges.
Its now been noted by many, many drivers, look on the Skoda forums (briskoda etc) and you see many disappointed customer.
Skoda are currently offering no solution b/c there isn't one according to them. I notice new engines are scheduled for 2017/18!
Thanks, that is a good deal. This one comes with Nav and metallic paint (which the Lookers one doesn't seem to) so if you're not interested in those the Lookers deal is better.
It's now £184.99 as I ordered one last week.
It includes metallic paint (as comes as standard with lease deals) satnav is standard on this model.
£5919 10k miles per year
Sat nav is standard on the vRS.
https://www.contracthireandleasing.com/car-leasing-companies/main-dealers/lookers-koda-stockport/skoda/octavia/111914194/