10/10 GJ on that prediction. :smirk:

So it does. Well, that's what I learned today. :smiley:

It uses software binary translation, which uses 128MB of ram.

Do the charge connections on these still nack up ?

​whut? the cpu "uses more ram"? that doesn't make sense..

Get a micro usb adapter and the old xbox 360 controllers work too, even the wireless ones (marked up as for windows)

It's possible although as far as I know Nvidia has it's own reserved capacity at TSMC and it's all 16nm now as I don't think they are still producing the 20nm for Nvidia anymore. X1 definitely has the juice for it, skyrim did come out on the 360 and PS3 and the X1 is four times more powerful than either console. Might need a few tweaks specific to it, but it's definitely something it could play.

Denver cores are actually designed on the principle of using low level emulation to allow it to run multiple instruction sets. Denver 1 was eventually switched over to only ARM v8 64bit after they couldn't get intel to license x86. But as long as it can get the licenses Denver can be made in such a way that it can use low level emulation(below the OS) to dynamically recompile letting it run just about anything(it definitely does x86 and PowerPC since the prototypes pre Denver 1 did it). Denver 2 could be anything as it's not been revealed if it's using the same ARM v8 and what if any licenses Nvidia managed to secure. Which is why the wording of the press release sounds so interesting because it's similar to what they said when they were launching Denver for the K1 and pitching it as able to emulate any instruction set.

Also as a secondary point the X1 isn't easily customised to the same degree like the Denver core version. The Denver again is very flexible compared to the non Denver X1 they can create a custom version just for Nintendo with a Denver 2 based X2 variant than something based off X1.

Anyway it is still up in the air, but I think the newer chipsets are more likely as I would say a Denver core is the one they would go with given the language used in the press release.

I wonder when this launched and what the chances are of a sucessor any time soon. I'm just upgrading my PC to be an Nvidia one so this could be a nice accessory

192 core, lel

Oh and if you have an modern Nvidia GPU in yr PC you can stream PC games to the tablets too!

My too young sons both have these. They are fantastic. But buy the controller to get full functionality as using a mini HDMI to HDMI cable you can effectively use these as a console (in console mode). There are some very good games available which have graphics comparable and sometimes better than a PS3 or Xbox 360. My boys also use theirs with Plex for watching films. I would recommend putting in a Transcend 64GB microsd card as they can be adopted as internal storage for games and apps. The cards need to have a fast enough read/write speed and after trying a few different brands the Transcend cards are the best. Slow cards can make the tablet laggy!

thanks, will take a look. So shocked this isn't a none app built in functionality though!

It'a possible, but again there's no guarantee as the X1 has more than enough power for games like Skyrim. TSMC currently produces 28nm, 20nm and 16nm wafers with 16/20 only accounting for only 31% of shipments, so it could be any process. They're also fairly busy with Apple A10 at 16nm FinFET and A10X at 10nm FinFET so it may have limited capacity for the smaller processes.

I couldn't see anything in the Nvidia press release regarding processors? Both Denver and Cortex A57 use ARM's V8 instruction set so they wouldn't be much different at a low level. It wouldn't take too much work to run DS games on either, but for Wii games they'd either need to re-compile the game or have software emulation.

There's certainly no chance either could run an original Wii game natively, unless it had a PowerPC hardware emulation or a PowerPC chip in it which is extremely unlikely.

They do, although they often have good reasons for it, particularly for the DS, this is a new device range entirely and with only one partner Nvidia and using a standard SoC it would make little sense. I also don't think there is even enough production capacity for doing the older 20nm Tegra, TSMC has been pushing hard on the 16nm so I don't think they practically could use the X1.

Also the way the press release is written it sounds VERY much like they are utilising Denver, they don't do a Denver version of the X1. It's potentially misleading and maybe they will do the X1 as it's a simpler job, but given Nintendos track record and the reasoning they have used older hardware in the past using a Denver based system makes a lot of sense for them as theoretically it could emulate all of their other consoles at the CPU firmware level so basically with no effort in porting the switch on X2 hardware could play all DS and Wii games. The X1 can't do that so it would basically mean no nintendo back catalogue at all.

Nintendo on the other hand have a great track record of new products built on old tech so Imo there's no guarantee of anything.

Not yet only hinted at by Nvidia, but it would be very unusual for Nvidia not to push it's newest architecture on a custom version of tegra and getting something that is using the older 20nm process rather than the current 16nm from Nvidia and using the maxwell rather than pascal architecture would probably be more expensive at this stage and wouldn't make much sense given the volumes Nintendo will be talking about. Wether it's a full fat version of the X2, or something cut down or possibly even souped up is the real unknown, they can tweak it a bit with different amounts and types of memory which will be the real question.

I've got a Hudl2 which has been flawless but it's starting to lose it on the battery life. wondering if this is an upgrade? Am I correct in thinking that this is a gaming tablet? If so, will it play Fifa??

You can play Half life 2 on these and Portal, exceptional tablet!!! :smile:

Is there actually anything official stating that it uses the X2?

Great tablet. Own one myself and you don't get better for the price bracket (under £200)

The Denver cores on the N9 were never supported, thankfully mine died and nationwide just paid out the full value instead of replacing it before my two year warranty was up. Put my money towards a surface book and liking it a lot better. It's a shame because I've had almost every version of tegra tablet going and loved them, but the N9 was just too rubbish in both software(which is googles fault) and build quality(HTCs fault) and this just had too small a screen.

If the switch has a touchscreen I will probably just get one of those.

They don't use the same SoC. This has a quad core Arm A15 cpu, the Nexus 9 has nVidia's dual core custom made cpu which uses more ram.

i got one under 200 almost 2 years ago, should be cheaper imho

Was just reading that this morning also. Never noticed a price though.

Nintendo Switch is the 'replacement' :smile:

I really wanted to get one of these but had read stories saying nvidia were working on a new tablet which has apparently been shelved now. Are they throwing up a smoke screen or is it genuinely not going to happen ?
Who knows ? Oh what to do !?!

Does anyone know how to actually browse your files without going via the settings? On all android devices I have been able to put a folder on my home screen. Can not figure out any way to do it with the Shield!

I have owned one, battery and Wifi are fine, the let down for me was the 2gb ram. Still a very capable piece of kit though. Worth trying Flubit for an even better deal maybe?

Still available.

Wifi is perfect for me. Battery only bad thing but I can live with it.

Great for gaming aswell...regardless of whether it's the official controller or not.

I have one of these and I don't seem to be having battery problems... Watched 5½ hrs of video on flight to Egypt and still had around 50% battery remaining... Great little tablet.

​Dont shop for a budget tablet then.

Been using one for 6 months. Excellent tablet. Never noticed any slow-down but I'm not a big social media user. Wifi and battery life seem fine to me.

As a previous Nexus 9 owner, I kissed goodbye to most of my RAM before the anything was even installed. As this device has the same RAM and an Nvidia SoC, I'd be concerned about memory management today, never mind in years to come.

May be a great performer today but only 2GB Ram would make me nervous for the future. 4GB seems to be the new Google standard. I'd be happier paying about £130 for this today.

Can an owner comment on RAM free when idle? (nothing at all running in the background.)

Brilliant tablet for the price.

I have one of these and where I agree about the poor battery life - the WIFI is excellent.
I often sit in the back yard and listen to music on it, the router is 2 rooms away in the front. I guess it all depends on what router you have really.

The battery is the ONLY thing that puts me off this otherwise I would snap this up in a heartbeat. Also I heard the Wifi is a bit poor too. I would hold off until Black Friday, only a few weeks away.

Good Tablet, poor battery, was £149.99 (last week I think) so no deal here for me.