Does anyone know the refresh rate?

if you need it before 11th december, you can buy from http://www.supremetronics.co.uk/navman-f20-p-290.html £139.99

or you can order one from woolworths for £129.99

http://www.woolworths.co.uk/ww_p2/product/index.jhtml?pid=50787540

http://www.handtec.co.uk/section.php?xSec=21 @ £143.35 also do the F20 Traffic bundle at £198.57

any decent deals for them around? i don't really want to pay £150, im hoping for a misprice :wink:

Ok i travelled from Dundee to Glasgow Airport a few days ago, as soon as i typed in the address for the airport it automatically calculated the route and told me my first direction.
It also displays (either one) distance to go, time, mph, estimated arrival time etc, as for satellites it took only a mere 30 seconds for it to aquire them, longer (abut 50 sec) if your traveliing at the same time you switch it on.

It ounds to me that the Garmin is not so good, i have had this Navman F20 for a few weeks now and its never let me down, the only 2 downsides i have found is that the speaker volume isnt very loud and the battery power doesnt last very long (but long enough), i prefer to hook it up to the cig lighter to charge while on the move.

Question for those who have used this - does it work well when starting out your journey? I ask because with my Garmin i3, when you first start your journey, it takes a while to get satellites and route, but once it does route, it doesn't make it very clear where you are at first. The voice doesn't tell you what to do until you start traveling, and often it thinks you're driving a different way on the road at first. I find that getting started is the only hard thing with the i3.

me i prefer straight road maps as it looks better and ive never ever had a problem with the tele atls 2006 directions, it really depends on your taste tho.

Thanks clay...I must say I'm not so concerned about what the maps look like ..I'm more concerned that the sat nav does what it says on the tin and is reliable.

My choice was limited as I wanted full detailed European maps as my son will be using it mostly in Europe..so that's the main reason for the Tom Tom purchase.

curry been into halfords today & think the Navman maps look better but everyone say get the TT one..... i think the updates for the TT One are cheaper also.

clay..I think it's a case of going into a retailer ..like Halfords/PCworld and having a demo of the ones on your shortlist and going from there.

I have just ordered the TT One (version 2) Europe from Dixons ...there are some codes on a post on this site and 2.5% quidco cashback...the TT One (version 2) has not long been released so I assume the mapping is bang up to date.

As with anything else it's all a matter of taste.

Sorry clay I now see that you posted the Dixons deals ...thanks very much

why are the graphics so different when they are both using Tele Atlas maps ?

its up to you matey but you will be sorry hehe i did warn you

you wont like the squigly graphics :-D

Thanks for your reply saxo but i think i'll be going for the tomtom, i was in halfords today & the guy in there said he had more navmans returned than TTs, well he said he didnt get any TTs returned @ all.

Sorry i did reply, .... well i thought is replied but my computer kind of went on theblink just after i had typed it in lol

Ok get the navman f20, i have it and it is SUPERB
if you buy any other system just now they wont have updated the maps yet, the F20 had the newest, freshest maps at the moment.
also the difference between the graphics of the 2 is really obvious, the tom tom has squigly lines for roads insted of the navmans straight better graphics.

Honestly the Navman wins hands down, iv had both these systems and i really didnt like the tomtom because of they 2 issues, also the navman is lightweight and can be put in your pocket for carrying about.

you really wont be dissapointed matey.

Shhhhhh :smiley:

you haven't replied :disappointed:

ill reply to this question when i get home from work :thumbsup: @ 8pm

How good is the Navman F20 compaired to the tom tom one ??

10% doesn't work but im sure thats the cheapest price for that unit at the mo!

just try tried it....it's £159.99 inc del without the 10% code.
when i entered the promo code it states that i have enter a 10% discount code,but it never took it of the total,unless it does after you enter your card details (which i didn't want to go that far :smiley:....but quidco will get you 4% anyway.
Am looking for a satnav for the wife,but i think i'll wait to after xmas now has i bet there will be some good deals on these then.

is that also using the 10% off voucher? or has it expired?

https://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10151&productId=247167&summaryOnly=true

@ £159.99 inc del! Quidco?

nice one matey, keep up with this let me know how you get on

thumbs up and looking good !!

I called them up, they uncancelled my order, and now it has a ship date listed on order status of Monday. Fingers crossed that this actually ships!!!!!!

I got an order despatched email!!!

At last its in stock again

£144.66
£169.98 inc VAT
quickfind code: 118093
20 in stock. Usually ships same day
manufacturer #: F20NAV

If anyone is interested i just found this, and they have them in stock :thumbsup:

http://www.thenavigationcompany.com/products/TN0175_Navman_F20.html

£ 154.99 inc vat
£ 161.74 inc vat + Next Day Delivery

£144.66
£169.98 inc VAT

quickfind code: 118093
Stock expected today.
manufacturer #: F20NAV

Iv been checkin every day for you matey :thumbsup:

thanks saxo

E buyer F20 navman
£144.66
£169.98 inc VAT

quickfind code: 118093
Stock due in 1 to 3 days.

just had to arrange a refund as they no longer have any!!!!!!!!!!!

anyone buy 2 and would let me buy one of them for £100???

No way drumma ?? thats no good, obviously send it back mate
Mine has been working fine (touch wood).

can`t turn mine on now!!!!!!!! keeps saying "f20 error...cant read internal memory, return to dealer" !!!

Look at there site every day mate as soon as you see they have stock phone them.
Ill keep a look out aswell, we'll get you that sat nav eventually.
If they have noted it then it will be on your notes in your account so i dont see how you wont be able to get it at that price.

good luck and ill keep my eyes peeled :thumbsup:

Well, I tried another call... they do have it noted in their system that they agreed to sell me at the lower price. However, they still said it's out of stock and that they won't get any more in...

I had them keep the order open for me, but I'm not holding my breath :disappointed:

thanks for rooting for me saxo :smiley: I'm glad everyone else got theirs!

That was the price with VAT but need a voucher which you can pick up in store.

right we all need to club together and get alchemista his one now, come on matey you must try and get yours. :thumbsup: ;-)

Edi was it you that ordered one aswell ? how did you get on?

Hope everyone is happy with there peice of kit coz i think its great.

got mine yesterday

finally arrived!!!!!!!!!! not a bad piece of kit!!!!!!

If you phone after 6 pm irs free lol if you have that option on your line

Five or more quid from hanging on the line with these numbskulls :smiley:

dont give up mate, tell them that was the price you clicked at and thats the pricwe you want it at.
REMEMBER speak to a superviser when you phone up and tell them that you always recommend there site to everyone blah blah, this is wrong what they have done.
dont speak to the monkey, speak to the guy or lassie in charge

what can you loose ?? :thumbsup:

this is utterly ridiculous.... i posted earlier how they charged me more than i checked out with... then they cancelled my order, then i called them up and finally got them to give it to me at the 99.

After all that, they have the nerve to send me an email today saying it was a price error and that they will cancel my order unless I want it at 149.

I guess I have to give up on this? This is ridiculous.

right just to confirm , navman icn 530 , £119.99 exc vat toatal price inclusive of vat = £140.99
you can become meber if you work in council/teacher/ buisness/post man /hospital
hope this helps
anyone know if its any good bought nav 520 (medion badge)from aldi last year took it back not very user friendly compared to tom tom

Mine was also delivered this morning

Well what a bunch of robbers. they have cancelled my order and pointed me to the terms and conditions. what can I do now. they even credited the money back to my card today. consumer credit does not apply here it appears.

Mine was delivered this morning:thumbsup:

Yes, you do have to be a member and also this is the price without the VAT

Think you have to be a member at costco as its for businesses only, like a cash and carry for shops.

costco have navman icn530 on offer from oct23-29 using the passport voucher booklet you can get it fro £140.99 think its model up from the f20?
dont know how it compares to tom tom 1 was on offer for £140 with discount code for robertdyas stores looks expired now
naz

Navman back down to £144.66
£169.98 inc VAT on ebuyer

Just got an email from Drumma, he got a delivery email this morning.

Thanks Muwolves, id just hate to see everyone missing out on this,
yeh i think there will be some annoyed execs lol but then they should have honoured all the people who bought theirs that day and not given priority to express postage payers

does anyone know if drumma guy got his ??

seems like around 2 or 3 of you have got their order of dispatch thru now, it still says 16 in stock on the website tho hhmmmmm :neutral_face:

No, I missed the boat and ordered it when it was £150.00. They have obviously hiked the price up thinking they would make a killing. Greedy sods

i hope after i posted this to start the ball rolling we have 16 happy customers and a couple of pissed off ebuy executives:giggle:

well done to sax for sticking with it despite already receiving theirs:thumbsup:

i did too sent an email saying why are they in stock at £308 have now been disptached ten mins later

Strange indeed I received the cancellation email as well and sent a snotty email back saying that they had entered into a contract by charging my credit card and within 5 minutes received an email saying that my order had been dispatched via City Link!

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=2][COLOR=#333333] Dear ##### ########,

The following items have been dispatched for delivery and should be with you shortly.

1 x Navman F20 Sat Nav - Freedom on the road

As we dispatch from multiple warehouse locations these items may not make up your entire order, but rest assured that any other item(s) will follow shortly.

Your goods, depending on courier used, may be delivered any time between the hours of 8am and 6pm on your chosen delivery date. Unfortunately, we are unable to specify a precise delivery time for your order.

To view your order and tracking information please click or copy/paste this link into your web browser: ##############

If you require an invoice for this order then this can be printed online via the Account > Ledger section.

You can expect to receive this order within the delivery period stated above. Upon receipt of your order you will be asked to sign for the goods received in good condition. If you are unable to check the contents of the package at that moment in time please sign for the parcel as "DAMAGED / UNCHECKED". Failure to do so may affect any warranty claims that you make thereafter.

Do not reply to this email - if you have any questions about your order which are not addressed on our website please use the link below:

[URL="javascript:ol('http://www.ebuyer.co.uk');"]http://www.ebuyer.co.uk[/URL]

Thank you for shopping at EBUYER,

Ebuyer Customer Service
EBUYER (UK)
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everyone else should try this then, welnik are you getting your one at the £99 or the £150

Wierd or what! Sent Ebuyer a snotty email asking why they have none in stock when there website quite clearly states that they have, and now they have sent an email saying my goods have been dispatched!

still £164.50 at handtec

http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php?xProd=409&xSec=1&jssCart=9cb2de65419c1d2bb351f16c20fa9312
also same price at Navman website £179.99 so nothing has changed
Ebuyer shouldnt be allowed to do this.

Ive checked my credit card and nothing has been taken? How they can say its out of stock when there are 16 showing on their website for £308!

Kick up a big bloomin fuss drumma, i wouldnt let them get away with this.
phone them up when they open again and ask to speak to higher authority like a supervisor,

tell them this isnt on and it shouldnt have mattered blah blah etc etc :x
this goes for everyone else who never got their navman, dont speak to the monkey - speak to the organ grinder

all i need now is my money back but they closed at 7!!

you`d of thought so wouldn`t you...........pri*ks.

unusual for ebuyer i have always found them to be excellant in the past

Thats right drumma, i wanted mine quicker,

still tho all that stock that sold should have been all accounted for ??it shouldnt have mattered tho if you wanted it later or not, you should have still got it as the amount they sold should have been put to the side

nope see post 74 ish...

Yes, I went for supersaver. Did you get yours?

you went for quick delivery i think.........i was on supersaver (my arse supersaver)

Its a wonder i managed to get mine then.

Who all never got theres then ??

we could send a letter of complaint off to them, it might work and get everyone there sat nav

What a bunch of crooks. I had my order planned for shipment, then when I emailed to request the price adjustment, they immediately write back and say that they cancelled my order due to insufficient stock! So my order just happens to get cancelled as soon as I request the price adjustment??? Sounds fake to me.

Then they say they're getting more stock in a week but they don't know what the price will be of that stock (I can tell you what the price will be - 150). If they are getting more stock then why didn't they just keep my order?

Oh well, I now know eBuyer is a crap store.

I just sent them a nasty eNote about it, not that they will care obviously.

A quick search on the net will reveal a few phone dealers giving this away with various phone contracts.

nice one jase.the d900 is a great phone

This satnav unit is avaliable as a free gift with some mobile contracts for anyone looking to change there mobile and get a freebie.

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I just phoned them to make them aware of the mis price, they say they will put it through to the management, altho they wont get it until monday now

i pity the poor sods who pay that price for it, thats double what it should be.
its at 16 in stock, wonder if anyone will buy one ?

looks like they need to make some money on them...possibly an original miss price?????

O M G !!! no way that price is well worng. :w00t: :w00t:

is it the one they are now selling for £308.89 inc vat

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/118093

If so thats shocking, they are showing just 16 in stock

the swines!!!!!!!!........just got this....

Reference: Order number 7******

1 x Navman F20 Sat Nav - Freedom on the road


Ebuyer are informing you that the above item(s) is currently out of stock and is not available for dispatch.



Unfortunately we were unaware of this stock discrepancy until your order went through to our warehouse to be dispatched.



Please contact us via eNotes or telephone to inform us whether you would like us to replace the out of stock item(s) with an alternative product or, if your order is not financed, have this removed and refunded to allow the remaining goods to ship.



If you opt for an alternative item then please supply our quick find code and we will amend the order accordingly.



We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.



Kind Regards

Ebuyer Customer Support

it will come drumma, prob tomorrow

not yet........

Right ok i went to dundee today and yes all roads HAVE been updated which is really good also means no arrow jumping due to out of date mapping from tele atlas.
The slight problem i had tho was the volume doesnt go loud enough, this wont be a problem if you have your radio down or cd player but to be honest who has there music right down.
One other thing that kinda bugs me (but will be fixed when i push up a power cable from the back of the cigarette lighter) is that the battery power doesnt last for long. Mines is charging just now and im going to leave it on all night so hopefully that will give it the boost of charge it needs.

Apart from those 2 niggly things its great, im well glad (which i was really wanting) that the maps have been updated :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

has everyone got theirs yet ??

Everything went good, system seems to be really good, just havent tried it at a new set of roads yet, will try that tomorrow.
One thing ill say is that you cant scan the roads with your finger like you could in the other products, meaning, on map mode when you put your finger on the screen you cant move the map left, right etc with the touch of the finger.
Apart from that its a well good system, cant wait to try it on the dundee new road tomorrow and see if the road has been updated (fingers crossed)

Sorry Edi thats the wrong picture of the NAvman mate, thats the Navpix system that you can take photos with :stuck_out_tongue:

Nope i go tmine today, i went back on line and remembered to change my old address to my new one.

everything going good.

well done sax-man!!!!!!

WAHEY !!!!!

Got mine just half an hour ago, what i can say is that its really small compared to all the other major sat navs out there, buttons will take some time getting used to.

Little nifty peice of equipment tho folks, you will be glad you got one :thumbsup:

Ill let you know how i go when i take it for a test drive. :stuck_out_tongue:

Hi. i ordered one at 99.99 and just checked account and all seems fine....

1 x Navman F20 Sat Nav - Freedom on the road 118093 Ship Date: 13/10/2006 £85.09 £85.09


i`m a first time user as well.

Just received my email with the same reason. Living at my address for ages and even by mistake cant type someone's address :-( .

Looks like they are doing this trick for first time buyers :stuck_out_tongue:

What the heck? I ordered one and when I immediately went to my order status page it says:

Order Status Scheduled for Cancel

Cool, nice one matey. I just got my email half an hour ago saying its getting delivered tomorrow between 9am and 6pm

WOOOOooo HOOooooo !!!!

Try selling it on here, you never know. :thumbsup:

i did.....£99 quid :prop:

just need to sell my navman pin 300 now !

no probs, did u manage to get one drumma ?

Ok everyone, ive just phoned Navman and they say the connectivity kit will not be available for this system until the end of November altho no price as yet.
Also asked if this had the newest maps etc, she says "its got the very latest maps and software available".

So not long to be able to update poi's and cameras but the system does have the latest cameras aswell.

F20 is now available at Robert Dyas for £143.99 delivered + 4% Quidco. Cheaper than ebuyer !

Where: Robert Dyas



Use the 20% off code posted in this thread. Thanks Kudos1uk :smiley:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28595

Did alchemista phone up Ebuyer then ? how did he get on ?

saxo........if you haven`t already, try this site for poi`s.....POIHandler.com

Windows Live got a Ebay equivalent.

I cant believe someone just paid this on Ebay AU $649.00
(Approximately £257.53)


There are 99 left but he was the mug to buy one lol must have loads of money

The price was going to go back up at £18.55 anyway matey :thumbsup:

I bet E-buyer have never shifted 50 odd units so quick. Lol.
Not surprised that the banged the price back up.
Thanks edi.

Yeh good thinking Edi, updates at that price just for a few megabytes of information Phew !!!


I wish they would come out with a unit that has a lazer detecter for speed cameras on it aswell, my front of my dash is going to look well packed with a road angel compact (which is for mostly the lazer guns as it has the attachment on it) and a bloomin navman now sitting at the side.

Is that the site you use Edi for updates? wish they would have more p.o.i's for scotland tho

Edi how is the roads on yours? when you come to a new road does the arrow jump off screen like what mine did?

I must point out tho that the updates for new maps to be installed doesnt come cheap, think they were selling for between £70 and £100

Why so dear i dont understand but hey thats the australians for you lol

To keep in touch with new updates or to get poi's or for the latest -Camera database (from which you need to be a member plus a £2 payment for a months downloads)- go to this site, i was very pleased with them altho it does take a wee while to answer your querys on there forums.
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/

ok it will be navman that are installing the camera database, but to be safe get a cable because there are cameras going up new everywhere and you dont want to be caught out with and old database (better be on the safe side)

As for the t1 traffic pack, this is an add on that allows the user to avoid traffic conjestion, it then redirects you away from the scene in enought time, personally id wait till it comes down in price as its at £100 or more at the moment
In my experience with this all you need to do is go another direction when you come up to the traffic jam and the Navman will get you back on track and maybe avoid the cue.

This comes with 2006 new installed maps so hoepfully fingerscrossed more streets will be accessible on it, unlike the navman 530 i had which the arrow sometimes jumped off the screen as i came to a new road it didnt have installed.

Hi, Do you think that this is specific to handtec.co.uk or are Navman pre-installing the safety camera database?. Anyone know anything about thw T1 Traffic Pack?. Thank you.

Thanks saxo :smiley:

# POI import capability, so you can add your own points of interest, such as safety cameras, using the optional desktop connectivity kit
# Drive-Away™ so it’s ready to use out of the box
# Automatic re-routing with Back-on-Track™
# Pre-installed regional map
# PC connection USB via optional desktop Connectivity Kit

I have it go to this link and read down

http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php?xProd=409&xSec=1&jssCart=27de8c29528d033e62aa05ae05c1883b

It says "pre installed safety camera database"

Its got a picture of a camera beside the writing

^^^ yep thats what i say Edi, they can check on there computer when the order was placed, all i know is the offer was taken off at 18:55

Apparently the lady said they had just got big delivery of the new batch and thats why they were selling them at that price

Sorry about that alchemista :neutral_face: If the price was £99.99 in the basket, you still stand a chance of making a case.

£149.99 is still a cheap price ...

Im trying to find the information again

Iv got the wire anyway that connects it from the pc to the navman, its the same one as the Road angel compact connection

Woo Hooooo i ordered mine at 18.55 and they changed the price at 18.55, so the lady on the phone is going to honour it at that original price of £99.99

WAHEYYYYyyyyyy RESULT !!

thank god thought i was going to be £50 out of pocket or have to cancel the order.

Im well happy now !!! managed to get through just in time on the phones.

Drink, feck , arse, girls... need to be sober for all these deals...

that guy removed ebay 1 minute after the price rise

[SIZE=2]Mine has gone thru and was charged only £99.99 :smiley:[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2]When you see a deal like this and want one - be quick !![/SIZE]

Hi, Think that you might be right there but not 100% on this. One of the resellers that i'd checked earlier this evening did say that a database is pre-installed but that could be because they've pre-installed themselves. Not really sure like I say.

i`d be impressed if it had the mobile camera locations which are changed every month !:thumbsup:

how freaking unlucky can you get...

Dont quote me on this but the poi and the speed camera are on it already, i read that somewhere.

P.o.is are already installed i think

Hmmmm.... eBays policy. Think that I dislike just about every aspect of eBay, their sheer disinterest in removing unfair or otherwise unjustified negative feedback being foremost. The fact that they own PayPal being another reason why I dislike them. Anyway, don't want to sound bitter. eBay works for a lot of people (an under-estimation really as they're a highly successful business) just wish that Google or some other company with good ethics would give them a good run for their money. Don't think i'm the only one who feels this way. Shame eBid aren't as successful.

Hi

i managed to get one for 99.99 with 1.50 back from quid co.

Thanks edi :stuck_out_tongue:

p.s quick note but this doesn`t appear to include the usb and drivers needed to connect to your pc, hence you can`t add poi`s unless you have it. i.e speed cameras.:-(

seems strange the price goes up when they are down to the last dozen or so....hopefully it will screw the ebay fella tho

i put mine through when it was 99.99 but charged me 155 im phoning them up like, im well angry now :x

Is it just my eyes or has it shot back up in price ?????

WTF --- they raised the price!?!?!?!

I said checkout and it was at the lower price, then when I go to order detail it shows a higher price!!

They've put the price up :-(
50% price increase!.

Was this a pricing error or were eBuyer testing the water for a response on this product?.

quickfind code: 118093
12 in stock. Usually ships same day
manufacturer #: F20NAV

£127.64
£149.98 inc VAT

Woo Hooooo i just bought one, £5 delivery tho, as im wanting it quicker than the 16th which is super saver delivery.

Thanks Edi for this one. :thumbsup:

make it super saver and its free - also only 14 left now be quick

Where can i get a voucher code maybe for free delivery lol

Charging for a link to eBuyer is ludicrous - really is. Really do dislike eBay on occasions. Come on Google get an eBay equivalent up and running!.

Further details on this product can be found here:
http://www.navman.com/Navman/Templates/productinformation____47207.aspx

Good pics can be found here:
http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk/navman-f20-uk-and-ireland-description.html
http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk/navman-f20-uk-and-ireland-screenshots.html
http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/2006/9/navman-f20_large.jpg

HTH

A little concerned that this product has a 200MHz XScale Processor. Is this powerful enough for a GPS?. Thought that a lot of equivalent GPS on the market were based on a 300MHz XScale Processor. But i'm not really qualified to comment as I don't know enough about this kit.

someones alreadt charging a tenner to the ebuyer link

honestly some people

i would paste but i dont think i can

Mine shows as "Security Check" in status :smiley:

I'm calling them up now to see what the heck is going on.

Looks like a good deal edi