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Criptop
1 Oct 16
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as per the two deals posted already (see below) is it not possible to get a Lumia 950 for £207 after cashback?

Credit to 'patters' for pointing this out.

Lumia 950: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/microsoft-lumia-950-sim-free-unlocked-for-249-with-display-dock-microsoft-store-2505649

Lumia 950 XL: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lumia-950-xl-inc-display-dock-339-microsoft-63-tcb-276-2509569
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itswolfy
2 Oct 16 9 #12
i have had one of these phones since they first came out, it works fine.. its fast doesnt slow down.. the camera is really good, the living photos has been on this phone from day one.. the slow mo is great to.. as a phone is great.. windows phones are windows phones.. value for money this is up there as a great offer i feel. the display dock works great, connect up a bluetooth mouse and keyboard you have all you need. i use it because i travel for work.. and using it in a hotel room is easy.. there are always lots wrong with any phone if you want to say you like or hate windows/android/apple. and thats your choice.. this is a good phone. with the dock its a lot better..

i don't think if you accept windows phones you will be disappointed in any way with this phone.

let the hating begin.. lol
baldude
1 Oct 16 8 #1
Microsoft mobiles will be the next BlackBerry for sure.
palsehmi
2 Oct 16 4 #26
Hi All, I just ordered a dual sim one from the France store and got a cashback and a discount. Phone and dock - £283.35 and cashback ontop of this of £14.87. The way to do this is to open the link through topcashback as usual - on the bottom left change the region to france - francais (if you use chrome its easy to get an auto translate). Order as normal, select Grand Betagne obviously as the region. I checked with Microsoft and there is no issue with this - the phone is fully unlocked and covered by Microsoft by their warranty - it supports all networks. And unlike the X3 or any future Surface Phone its really really cheap.
I have already an iphone, an android and an aging windows phone - this will be a great and cheap replacement for my lumia 830 windows phone (with an awesome camera) - incredible deal. Forget the fanboys - this is a great device and will serve you well for years - plenty of apps and now W10 mobile is pretty bug free. Highly recommended!!! - SINGH
MrPuddington to baldude
2 Oct 16 3 #15
Will be? I thought the platform was already pretty much dead, or kind of undead. The users have run away, developers have been fired, a number of high profile apps have left the store, and the Android emulator has been cancelled. So, what exactly is keeping Windows 10 Mobile alive?

Somehow Microsoft is really good at shooting themselves in the foot. Like the best camera in the 1020 - except it had a 2 second delay when taking a picture, so you would get a super sharp image of what isn't there any more. Or the whole Continuum concept: long announced, but then not supported by the hardware. The unified apps that never materialised etc.

https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/windows-phone/81484/microsoft-discusses-limited-future-windows-10-mobile
All comments (54)
baldude
1 Oct 16 8 #1
Microsoft mobiles will be the next BlackBerry for sure.
lionkhan1 to baldude
2 Oct 16 #8
​unless they move to android
parasitemol to baldude
2 Oct 16 1 #9
​With the jump to Android and the release of the Priv, DTEK50 and soon DTEK60, BlackBerry may be turning things around a little, I know I for one am waiting on the DTEK60 to see if John Chen actually did learn something about the pricing of the Priv cause if it is competitive it'll be one of the better flagship choices due to BlackBerry's additional security baked in to Android. Microsoft on the other hand are going the way of Palm and WebOS, in to oblivion forever. Which is a shame cause much like WebOS, Windows 10 for mobile is actually very good. :disappointed:
MrPuddington to baldude
2 Oct 16 3 #15
Will be? I thought the platform was already pretty much dead, or kind of undead. The users have run away, developers have been fired, a number of high profile apps have left the store, and the Android emulator has been cancelled. So, what exactly is keeping Windows 10 Mobile alive?

Somehow Microsoft is really good at shooting themselves in the foot. Like the best camera in the 1020 - except it had a 2 second delay when taking a picture, so you would get a super sharp image of what isn't there any more. Or the whole Continuum concept: long announced, but then not supported by the hardware. The unified apps that never materialised etc.

https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/windows-phone/81484/microsoft-discusses-limited-future-windows-10-mobile
Agharta
1 Oct 16 2 #2
https://www.topcashback.co.uk/microsoft_store/

Lumia 950 XL £60.60
Lumia 950 £40.40
pontprennau
2 Oct 16 2 #3
you won't get those cash back rates. I posted a Microsoft band deal with similar cash back. But instead of the promised 50 it was 6.

great if you could get it. But you likely won't
Groovii D to pontprennau
2 Oct 16 #4
Confused as to why they would offer this then not payout. Is there any way to confirm this. Is there not a caveat that says tracks initially at a lower rate?
pontprennau
2 Oct 16 #5
Because they can :\
Original deal HERE
S c 0 TT y
2 Oct 16 #6
Will Windows OS still be supported unlike the lumias
flamethrower
2 Oct 16 #7
I am awaiting for cashback for a laptop bought over a month ago, only tracked £2 instead of the promised £130 and MS have not responded yet. so don't hold your breath on the cashback for this deal.
parasitemol
2 Oct 16 #10
Still, have some heat at this price. Wonder if the TCB works on the student deal without the dock. Anyone tried?
heatlight
2 Oct 16 1 #11
Which won't happen. If Windows 10 Mobile continues to fail (and I suspect the expected Surface Phone will have something to say about that) then Microsoft will abandon hardware and simply work on their software for iOS and Android. There's no value in them continuing to make hardware for a rival operating system, it's an expensive business and one which they've had limited success.
itswolfy
2 Oct 16 9 #12
i have had one of these phones since they first came out, it works fine.. its fast doesnt slow down.. the camera is really good, the living photos has been on this phone from day one.. the slow mo is great to.. as a phone is great.. windows phones are windows phones.. value for money this is up there as a great offer i feel. the display dock works great, connect up a bluetooth mouse and keyboard you have all you need. i use it because i travel for work.. and using it in a hotel room is easy.. there are always lots wrong with any phone if you want to say you like or hate windows/android/apple. and thats your choice.. this is a good phone. with the dock its a lot better..

i don't think if you accept windows phones you will be disappointed in any way with this phone.

let the hating begin.. lol
Ed_in_London
2 Oct 16 #13
Surely topcashback should remove these offers if they do not exist?
If no one is getting the higher cash back then it is misleading advertising.
afroylnt
2 Oct 16 #14
misread title and thought it said £276 cashback.. now that would have been a worthwhile deal. Good phone & OS but destined to go the way of the dodo..
baldude
2 Oct 16 #16
well said sir.....Couldn't agree more.
Having owned the Lumia 1020, i felt seriously let down when MS announced that it is not being supported by the Win mobile 10......flagship within 2 years being taken out of the supporting list....

a series of consistent wrong decisions is leading the fast demise of win mobile platform.
very invasive than android to begin with.....
I could not see any positives to spend cash on windows platform.
Criptop
2 Oct 16 #17
Excuse my ignorance, but I just updated my 735 to Windows 10. Did you download the 'Upgrade Advisor' (or Update Advisor, cant remember what it's called) from the app store?
fishmaster
2 Oct 16 1 #18
Lumia 1020 is definitely not upgradeable to 10

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_1020-5506.php
fishmaster
2 Oct 16 #19
Nokia android phone (Nothing to do with Lumia/Microsoft branding as in the past) >

http://www.gsmarena.com/mysterious_nokia_d1c_android_smartphone_spotted_on_geekbench-news-20825.php
Jimbo123
2 Oct 16 1 #20
I will never forgive Microsoft for enslaving the greatest phone manufacturer all time , Nokia, and forcing them to make their garbage phones for them. In a parallel universe I imagine fabulous android phones made by Nokia with their design and workmanship.
adam.mt to Jimbo123
2 Oct 16 1 #23
It was a decision by the Nokia board to put all their eggs in the Microsoft basket. By the time they realised their mistake and tried a couple of Android models they were already in serious trouble.
cidharten
2 Oct 16 #21
Is there a way of running Android app on Win phone now since they abandoned Project Astoria? I have a gifted Lumia 435 and a fitness tracker app I want to run is only available on Android and iOS. I don't want to buy another phone just for this if there is a workaround.
adam.mt to cidharten
2 Oct 16 #22
Simple answer, no.
baldude
2 Oct 16 1 #24
​One of the conditions that Microsoft laid at the time of purchasing on Nokia is that Nokia doesn't make any phones until end of this year.........
by end of this year I think Nokia is free on their will as before to make phones as before...
jldevoy
2 Oct 16 1 #25
Well MS did put one of their people into the board to help make the decisions necessary to destroy Nokia. Then MS make a complete shambles of it and now windows phone is almost dead as well.
palsehmi
2 Oct 16 4 #26
Hi All, I just ordered a dual sim one from the France store and got a cashback and a discount. Phone and dock - £283.35 and cashback ontop of this of £14.87. The way to do this is to open the link through topcashback as usual - on the bottom left change the region to france - francais (if you use chrome its easy to get an auto translate). Order as normal, select Grand Betagne obviously as the region. I checked with Microsoft and there is no issue with this - the phone is fully unlocked and covered by Microsoft by their warranty - it supports all networks. And unlike the X3 or any future Surface Phone its really really cheap.
I have already an iphone, an android and an aging windows phone - this will be a great and cheap replacement for my lumia 830 windows phone (with an awesome camera) - incredible deal. Forget the fanboys - this is a great device and will serve you well for years - plenty of apps and now W10 mobile is pretty bug free. Highly recommended!!! - SINGH
adyDeals
2 Oct 16 #27
Don't count on receiving cashback from Microsoft Store - a lot of us got burned on previous deals
km_usman
2 Oct 16 #28
Bugs, bugs and more bugs on these phones! Windows 10 OS probably the culprit. Feels rushed/unfinished and not optimised.
neilcaldwell
2 Oct 16 2 #29
My wife has had 2 x windows phones in the last 5 years and she loves it! It is now starting to bite though with the sheer lack of apps for everything. I think come Christmas time I will be treating her to a new android phone and I reckon it's time to retire the trusty Lumia 1020 she owns. It's such a real shame, it works flawlessly and is a really good phone. If there were apps, I would be all over this deal like a rash.

I remember watching Coronation Street about 12 months ago and every shot of a mobile was a Windows phone, some kind of marketing advert? I'm pretty sure it was.

Shame on you Microsoft, you had something so good, but failed us all!
JoeSpur
3 Oct 16 #30
Minus all the staff that made them Nokia in the first place...
JoeSpur
3 Oct 16 #31
I'm still undecided whether to buy this or wait to see what is happening with Surface Phone. Either way, I think I may be switching to iPhone next year Xmas with 7S/8 (whichever is the true next generation of it). I'm not massively concerned by he lack of apps as I really don't use that many, but if the manufacturer doesn't care about the product then there is no point in supporting it.
ElGofre to JoeSpur
3 Oct 16 1 #32
Lack of apps is just one of the many things that make this phone inferior to its Android competition.
Criptop to JoeSpur
4 Oct 16 2 #35
Quoting Migavupe's comment from other Lumia 950 post:
"Hardware wise it beats the 2 week old iPhone 7 hands down for a fraction of the price.
iPhone 7 plus
1920-by-1080-pixel resolution at 401 ppi
iPhone 7
1334-by-750-pixel resolution at 326 ppi

950xl
5.7" WQHD (2560 x 1440)
TrueColour (24-bit/16M)
AMOLED, ClearBlack
518ppi"

I just don't get how a phone that is much newer and costs over £800 can have a worse screen than a 950xl which costs £276...
adam.mt
3 Oct 16 #33
They are yes but won't since they don't have the factories or staff with knowledge of mobile design anymore.

In fact believe they've already signed an agreement with a large Chinese ODM for the Nokia name to be a 'badge'. They also released a tablet this way last year.
JoeSpur
3 Oct 16 #34
I prefer the style of the OS than iOS or Android anyday, it's the lack of support that really hurts it.
pengwyn
5 Oct 16 #36
Because it has a **** os with no apps? :-)
pengwyn
5 Oct 16 #37
Microsoft never failed us. They sat on their pc fortune and with lack of innovation raked in the money. They never saw how important phones would become. The apple pc lawsuit saw apple lose the battle over wimp but won the war over phones. Nokia saw it coming but maemo came too late they sat on symbian too long. Its too late for Microsoft to start crying when people say I've got a phone that's a computer why do I need a pc. Microsoft will be gone soon as pc and phone sales dry up
ontheqt
5 Oct 16 #38
Took the plunge went for the student deal with a nuscard. Topcashback tracked fine, free dock too. Assuming cash back is paid that's a nice bit of hardware for £185. Dead platform or not, that's worth it, even if sell on for a hundred in a year.
chrisst170
5 Oct 16 #39
I'm really tempted by this. I had 5 years of windows phones, thought I'd try the other side, so bought an LG G4 in January, but not loving android. The downside is that comparing the 950 and G4 side by side, their tech specs seem almost identical. Is Windows 10 still lightweight in terms of processing loading compared to android (like WP8 was)? If not, then I'm unlikely to see much benefit from the Lumia over keeping the G4.

Cheers
wenttoabetterplace to chrisst170
7 Oct 16 #44
I have the 950XL....it is silky smooth (more so than my Redmi Note 3 Pro). I'm selling mine 950XL though owing to needing Strava and a couple of other apps.
greg0071
5 Oct 16 #40
out of stock... somebody know when will be more?
Criptop
6 Oct 16 #41
What cashback have people been getting? Has the full amount tracked ok?
wenttoabetterplace
7 Oct 16 #42
I'm selling a 950XL & display dock for £250 if it's of interest. Slightest of blemishes on the screen - but otherwise pristine. Will be listing it in the buy/sell in the morning
wenttoabetterplace
7 Oct 16 1 #43
It's not all about the numbers....even if spec hounds would wish you to think otherwise!
plap
9 Oct 16 #45
​Blackberry might build another 2 phones and then that'll be the end of it, unless other companies licence the brand
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/28/blackberry_phones_bye/
TK42
16 Oct 16 1 #46
£66 & £44 cashback now.
Criptop
16 Oct 16 #47
I bought the XL yesterday - it has initially tracked at £15.76 but will be revised upwards once purchase is confirmed.
Sponge
5 Nov 16 #48
Mine still tracking at £14.82...
Jonathan2400
12 Nov 16 #49
I was promised £40.40 on the 950, it tracked at £10.48 and has now become payable, also at £10.48...
wenttoabetterplace to Jonathan2400
12 Nov 16 #50
Signature move by Microsoft. They do it all the time (specifically, for an Acer 2 in 1 where £100 cashback became £10...only to be revised upwards after a Twitter campaign by HUKD users!).

Send the cashback company a tweet with a screenshot of the cashback offer..
ontheqt to Jonathan2400
8 Dec 16 #51
Mine has also tracked and paid out at the lower amount on two handsets. Topcashback support are strangely silent on the issue. I would suggest this would be a misleading business practice if this happens all the time and Topcashback know it which is a criminal offence.
Sponge
13 Dec 16 #52
I never got the promised cashback. If memory serves, it was £64. It has tracked at just £14.

If this is happening to other people, then TCB need to be taken to task!
Sponge
20 Dec 16 #53
I'm not going to get the advertised cashback. :disappointed:

Now, do I direct my anger at TCB and walk? Or at MS?
anonimousse
20 Dec 16 #54
I would start with TCB. I doubt MS will take any ownership.
I have not come across any reps here but you could try MSE. Good luck.
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