EE network but can be unlocked by EE for free now call customer to find out
This is a top spec has a good camera and a good octa core processor the screen is a full hd 1080p panel and 3gb ram good for mutli tasking and 16gb internal storage and micro sd slot. Android 6.0 installed
Also a finger print scanner for security and nfc for andriod pay
Looks like some shops are not aware of the updated price.
curtis2500
29 Oct 16#127
My box has VNS-L31.
curtis2500
29 Oct 16#126
Xiaomi would be better. But it depends if you want to take the risk with warranty / software which can be a bit rubbish even on Global ROMS.
jimbobwalton
29 Oct 16#125
Just stating what I was told
ivrytwr3
29 Oct 161#124
Anoop: at 18:29:42
I have checked it and found that it is the 3GB one that we have.
Gollywood
29 Oct 16#123
Its a PAYG phone. Use up the credit & that's it. No contract
fras23
29 Oct 16#122
snapdragon 650 beats kirin 650 easily in multi tasking and gaming, and the note3 runs android 6.0.1 on the latest miui 8 global rom. It also has an official cm14 rom that can be used as a daily driver (nougat)
mthomas77
29 Oct 16#121
which is better this phone or the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 3Gb version at £175 which has the Helio X20 CPU.
robhilton
29 Oct 16#120
Tip for new buyers, the Toshiba Exceria M302 64GB SDXC U3 speed cards work very well with this phone. I have been using 1 in mine with no problems at all.
deanutd
29 Oct 161#119
I'll go and check my nearest store tomorrow, if they price match and its 3gb ill buy it
chamblacha
29 Oct 16#118
Great phone. Got mine when it was discounted on Vodafone PAYG and still pleased with it. Great smartphone and spec with a good battery life.
itsdavidjones1984
29 Oct 16#117
Cheers. Just ordered one. My one plus one died Thursday so I've been after a new cheap phone
atomicphreak
29 Oct 16#116
Heads up: This doesn't have a gyro, so won't work with VR like Cardboard. I found that one out after buying.
merkin51
29 Oct 16#115
Hmmmm... probably wouldn't have ordered if I knew it was 2gb. How are EE with returns?
supermoon
29 Oct 16#114
Can anyone conform the RAM is 2GB or 3GB? Thanks.
robhilton
29 Oct 16#113
The 2nd sim card slot needs to be unlocked and the Sim management settings enabled. There is a guide on XDA P9 Lite forum, I posted the link on my previous post. But here it is again : guide for Dual sim Your text here
Remember VNS-L31 is 3GB version, VNS-L21 is 2GB version, the box will have the model number on it.
Gavin01
29 Oct 16#112
seems a very well specced phone ..........whats the catch>??
is this better than a htc one mini 2 or a Samsung s5
spitfire51
29 Oct 16#111
I will pop over my local EE shop tomorrow to confirm 3GB and "price-match" online offer as it seems that Quidco isn't tracking and not 100% whether online version is 2GB or 3GB
spitfire51
29 Oct 16#109
top up throw away after a month
hth
greg13
29 Oct 16#110
Presley on web chat also confirmed that the online offer is 2gb and that store stock could be different. If it was 3gb, I'd have this for my daughter but at 2gb I'll get the moto G4 plus with better camera and gyroscope. (No NFC though)
itsdavidjones1984
29 Oct 16#108
Is this a contract, or just a £10 top up that I can throw away after. A month
ivrytwr3
29 Oct 16#107
That's good to hear. However, i have just got off live chat with EE and they say because daughters current sim is LIFE, the Huawei EE will automatically accept the LIFE sim (LIFE is part of EE).
I hope so, i don't want to be messing about over Xmas waiting 9 days to be able to unlock!
curtis2500
29 Oct 16#106
I've applied for a SIM unlock and only got the device today, FYI
bobziz
29 Oct 16#105
possible the instore models are 3gb, so if you can get them to price match web price you'll be quids in.
chancooluk
29 Oct 16#104
The LIFE SIM should work without unlocking, as LIFE use the EE network.
curtis2500
29 Oct 16#103
I got it today and it is 3GB RAM & I got it in store, asked an employe and showed the web price and he said he'll do it for that price.
ivrytwr3
29 Oct 16#102
Irene: at 17:55:22
Huawei P9 lite is 3GB model
curtis2500
29 Oct 162#101
3GB RAM, says it on the side of the box & used an info app and it said 3GB RAM. The SIM slot seems to have two places for SIMS - put the EE sim in SIM slot 1 area and worked fine. Took out and put in SIM slot 2 but didn't recognise it.
deanutd
29 Oct 16#100
I have asked about 5 different people on ee chat and they have all said it is the 2gb model and web deal only
on00jh2
29 Oct 16#99
Got excited as initially thought this was just the P9. This wouldnt be much of an upgrade over my P8.
I must say as an Apple user for 3 years i switched to the P8 from the 5S and i have never looked back. These phones are incredible value and can do much more on Android than IOS (for me anyway)
Unless you are a brand snob or a follow the trend sheep, seriously try one of these phones. You wont be disappointed.
@curtis2500
can you confirm the info above please? ta
Gitfinger
29 Oct 16#93
Just been in the EE shop at Aintree, they have it showing as £129.99 plus £10 top up.
ivrytwr3
29 Oct 16#92
I am looking at this phone as a Xmas gift for my daughter. Soooooooo, she currently has a moto with Life sim, if i get this P9, do i simply add the EE sim, wait 9 days, get an unlock and on Xmas day she can put her Life sim into it and it will work?
Sorry :disappointed:
robhilton
29 Oct 162#91
I have had the P9 Lite for a couple of months now bought from CPW sim free, it is a great phone.
The nougat ROM is currently in Beta and the bods over at XDA forum have got been trying to load it.
Mine was a VNS-L31 single sim, but I converted it to dual sim using the guide on XDA P9 lite forum.
The phones are built as DUAL SIM by default, but the software switches off the second sim card depending on location and markets. Follow the guide here :- Your text here
The camera is a Sony censor, it is pretty decent but the JPEG processing engine is a bit severe, installing Open Camera enables Camera 2.0 settings and enables you to save RAW files if you are into photo post post processing.
For the price it is a lot bang for buck.
derp1664
29 Oct 16#90
Much better?
-Grey import
-CN version
-Much worse warranty
-Worse processor
-Arguably worse camera
-No NFC
-Older OS
I'm not sure I'd call that 'much better'
Cavity
29 Oct 16#89
The key is to repeat the word 'FREE' as many times as you can, it triggers some sort of impulsive buying syndrome.
joshp
29 Oct 16#88
Where did you get the "much better" part from? :smirk:
I've owned the P9 (not lite model) and it was a great phone.
u664541
29 Oct 16#87
Any idea if the top up is on a new SIM or comes as way of a code?
wakaru
29 Oct 16#86
Can you confirm 3GB RAM and single or dual SIM?
curtis2500
29 Oct 161#85
I got one a few hours ago from the EE shop. In store price was £230 but I showed them the price on the website and they let me have it for £130 +10 top up. Any questions i'm happy to help! Great phone so far
Dealier
29 Oct 16#84
I would think it's unlikely it's dual sim if you buy it direct from EE. The mobile networks want you to only use their sim, not theirs and someone else's.
wakaru
29 Oct 16#83
For what it is worth I have seen this model in the Northwich EE shop in the city centre earlier on today as I wanted to have a hands on. The phone was marked at the shop as £129 plus minimum £10 top up in PAYG, so there should be no problem getting it from the shop at that price.
Someone said earlier in this thread the phone has only one SIM. Are we sure of it, I was hoping it was a dual SIM as I would like this for my next phone. Can anyone who has the phone confirm ? Cheers.
spitfire51
29 Oct 16#82
can anyone comment on this company??
I would say that they are nowhere near as bad as Vodafone
rdwarr
29 Oct 162#81
If it came with KFC rather than NFC I might be interested.
MarioMan
29 Oct 16#80
Why the **** if you go instore don't they just give you the on-line price?
I swear EE must be one of the rubbishest and stupidest companies out there, along with GAME
phatboy123
29 Oct 16#79
Or get the much better 32gb Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 for £122.60 and EE sim jus sayin...
I'm on live chat now with "Irene" and she said 3GB - sent me this link - i.e., they haven't got a clue and are googling the specs.
and she says that I can expect delivery within 1-day.
LOL - I just do not want to go through another "Vodafone LG G2 Black Friday 2014 Saga!" if you guys remember...
whingygit
29 Oct 16#77
just had an online chat whilst waiting for an answer here and they reckon no,needs unlocking,so still no wiser,thanks though
vassy4u
29 Oct 16#76
Wondering the same. Please can you let know the answer for your question when you come across. Thanks.
justanotherpunter
29 Oct 16#75
Novel idea, do you tag your undies too in case you lose them? :smile:
sarabifran
29 Oct 16#74
I need to replace my sony xperia ultra 6.5cm screen. This mobile would seem ideal but the screen size is small. Does anyone know if there are any mobile phones with a screen size of 6.5cm + . Would be happy with an even bigger screen. My research on google has produced nothing but tablets - and this won't work as I need it to work as a phone. Sorry - I know this is off topic - and I do like the look of this phone and would buy but for the screen size.
chrisjfalcon
29 Oct 161#73
Dumb question...
I have a PAYG sim from EE and I really want this phone. Do I just buy the phone and put it in and I'm good to go?
jimbobwalton
29 Oct 16#72
Just went into the EE store in Westfield, it seems that you have to order online to get the 139.99 price. If you order online and collect instore you get the 139 price. Otherwise you are paying 229.
chancooluk
29 Oct 16#71
Yes it will work without unlocking.
derp1664
29 Oct 16#70
Lol sounds like EE
chancooluk
29 Oct 16#69
I purchased one from EE when they were more expensive. Its the 3GB RAM version, model number VNS-L31.
greg13
29 Oct 16#68
I've just been told on web chat by Darren that it has 2gb ram
hcc27
29 Oct 16#67
I use NFC all the time, in conjunction with some cheap on NFC tags and Tasker. Leave home swiping a tag to switch wifi off, one tag in the car to switch Bluetooth on and connect on entry, switch Bluetooth off on leaving, a tag on the washing machine for a 1h timer so I don't forget to put the clothes in the dryer, a tag on the headboard to set the alarm for the morning etc etc. Android Pay and Oyster are the icing on the case. NFC has limitless possibilities but of course, you don't NEED it.
FeveredSpark
29 Oct 16#66
Web chatted to "Sean" - confirmed 3GB to me.
s-p
29 Oct 16#65
After successfully completing an order for this phone earlier in the day, EE customer support are telling me the device is out of stock (contrary to their site status). Apparently additional stock of this item is due in Monday or Tuesday.
I'm assuming no-one else has had problems ordering?
dean_brfc
29 Oct 16#64
Faster delivery, no chance of customs charge, warranty if something goes wrong.
fras23
29 Oct 16#63
hard to see what this has over a Redmi note 3 pro, you can get the 2gb model for £110 now.
bobziz
29 Oct 16#62
guessing this is the 2gb version. Cheapest I can find the 3gb version is £190.
Of course with will be hot from you...you posted it
rev6
29 Oct 16#58
Probably not.
whingygit
29 Oct 16#57
will my "life" mobile sim work in this (apart from 4g obviously) as it piggy backs EE? tia
lilee
29 Oct 16#56
Will Carphone warehouse Price match this please?
dry
29 Oct 16#55
NFC is the kind of thing you don't realise you need until you actually get it. If I ever leave my wallet at home by accident I can still pay for things with Android Pay (which you need NFC for). It's handy as it gives you a notification every time you make a transaction so you can easily see how much you've spent in a day.
dean_brfc
29 Oct 16#54
You're not going to get 'world class' for £140! I'm in the same boat as you, my G3 has given up.
Specs are a little bit lower on this, but decided it's worth the trade off for quick delivery, warranty/manufacturer support, and availability of custom roms.
The Mi Mix you mentioned will be about £400 won't it? If your budget is more than mine have a look at Lenovo ZUK Z2.
dreadzone101
29 Oct 161#53
Bad luck
DatAlbino
29 Oct 16#52
I want a next gen replacement for my failing LG G3, I want a Xiaomi or some amazing specced low price phone
Mi Mix looks incredible but what about lower budget devices?
This p9 lite looks decent but not rlly world class, just seems like a standard 1080p
minicale
29 Oct 16#51
This is an amazing deal.
I paid £150 for my honor 5c which is very similar other than having only 2gb ram and the build quality being a little worse, as this is essentially just a better version I can only imagine this is even better.
I'll list my main points about the Honor 5c :
Fast even when multitasking
Battery life is amazing lasts me 1-2 days even with watching videos for a 2-5 hours
Cameras are good
Screen is decent the sharpness is good but it suffers in dark scenes even with lowered brightness
bellboys
29 Oct 161#50
I was going to ask the same question. No mention of the amount of RAM AFAICS? I believe the 'base' version of the P9 Lite comes with 2GB RAM as standard?
dean_brfc
29 Oct 161#49
Has anyone got this in store?
Also, does the free unlock definitely work if you call them? How does it work? Put the EE sim in, call them and request unlock, then switch the sims over?
Dealier
29 Oct 162#48
Unless you want to listen to the radio and don't have a 3g/4g signal. Or you want to listen to something that isn't available online (for example most football commentaries on local radio).
Not having FM radio wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, but it would mean there would be occasions when I'd have to take a separate radio out with me.
OK. I thought you wanted a new H7.
I have the H7 from new, it has been very good until I got the ZUK Z2. :smiley:
Johnny Bravo
29 Oct 16#40
Ordered, perfect for my wife who has a Doogee x5 Pro from a deal on here, but it's slow, unreliable and the usb connection is very dodgy now for charging :disappointed:
msaquib
29 Oct 16#38
I have seen H7 going on ebay for £150. I have never used NFC and I don't think I will needed.
H7 has a better camera and slightly higher battery.
bro631 to msaquib
29 Oct 16#39
If u want to sell your fone theres another thread
msaquib
29 Oct 16#35
I was considering to buy Honor 7.
Which one is better this or Honor 7?
iDealYou to msaquib
29 Oct 16#37
The H7 doesn't have NFC and is a lot more expensive.
harrerdarren
29 Oct 16#36
i have a Vodafone su 6 this p9 lite is definitely better the su6 is basically fit for nothing now ,had it about 15 months it crashes my Bluetooth headset all the time and the touchscreen keeps closing apps every couple of seconds it's just no good anymore ,it was very good for about a year but as these are common faults with it you'd be better of with the p9 lite in my opinion
1n24n3
29 Oct 16#34
lol I'm using a nexus 4 too haha because my One plus 1 passed away sadly. Now I'm on a budget (£130ish) and can't seem to decide.
from what I've seen, p9 lite battery is 3000 vs 4000 approx on the redmi note 3. The UI are also different, but redmi has android lollipop vs marshmallow on p9.
Not sure about the ZTE
1n24n3
29 Oct 16#32
This or the Xiaomi redmi pro note 3?
I believe they're around the same price mark.
thanks in advance :smiley:
spitfire51 to 1n24n3
29 Oct 16#33
I am on the same boat. My Nexus 4 will be 4-years old in Jan2017 and it looks tired. I might give a hard-reset a try to see whether I can extend its life (light user, emails, news, odd app).
Been considering the Xiaomi redmi pro 3 or 4 with 3GB/32-64GB and the ZTE Smart Ultra 6; now this P9 Lite model comes as an option too. Then you think: "black friday is just a month away, should I wait/gamble?"
It just makes it more difficult to decide....Suggestions???
arvy1
29 Oct 16#30
Anyone know howmuch ram this comes with ? Before anyone asks I did check the link .
Dealier to arvy1
29 Oct 16#31
It says in the first post.
colsey85
29 Oct 16#29
Fantastic phone, great price. Got one a few months back when Vodafone had them for £150, could not be happier with it. Had an update yesterday which added slow motion videos, will have to have a play with that soon.
gamer14
29 Oct 16#28
Yesterday i checked at the EE camden store and the price on the label was 229.99, but never asked if the price had changed
curtis2500
29 Oct 16#21
Anyone know if this is instore price as well?
bro631 to curtis2500
29 Oct 16#27
Should be instore price
dannychung
29 Oct 16#22
Hi,
anyone knows of this is a dual sim or single?
bro631 to dannychung
29 Oct 16#26
Single sim uk market
mrjackson90
29 Oct 16#24
Paid £199 sim free for this phone, for that price its a bargain. how easy is it to unlock as the wife is after a new phone?
bro631 to mrjackson90
29 Oct 16#25
Buy it from ee and they will unlock it for free also speak to ee customer service for more details or if u cant. Wait theres few ebay sellers sell unlocking codes from £3-£5
amyp88
29 Oct 16#14
Does anyone know if this phone is better than a Vodafone smart ultra 6?
rev6 to amyp88
29 Oct 16#15
Yeah. Looks like it. Smaller display though.
bro631 to amyp88
29 Oct 16#23
I say yes but the ultra 6 has slight bigger screen
jay15
29 Oct 16#20
seems to not have a gyroscope but still a good price if you do not use vr
jaydeeuk1
29 Oct 16#18
Hows the camera on this? Will be upgrading the wife from her lumia 1020 to join the 21st century, which although slow and crap by todays standards the camera is still impressive. Is it as good as the nexus 5x I have?
chancooluk to jaydeeuk1
29 Oct 161#19
The camera on the P9 Lite is about the same as the standard Moto G4 in my experience. It certainly isn't up there with the Nexus 5X, but it is adequate for most shots.
taylope1
29 Oct 161#12
£9 quidco too
samseng to taylope1
29 Oct 16#17
ee don't seems to always give the £9 quidco if you read the feedback on it
rejector1
29 Oct 164#8
I give up... Where's the door?!
samseng to rejector1
29 Oct 16#16
this post has better picture of the phone and gave more details of the deal and the phone and I think users on hukd seems to vote accordingly. Thanks for the original post . :wink:
got3nn
29 Oct 16#13
Apart of battery life :smiley:
huzaif
29 Oct 16#10
Hmm I bought a xiaomi 3s 2 weeks ago from UK seller on eBay, is it worth returning for this?
Spark to huzaif
29 Oct 16#11
This phone is definitely better than the 3s.
amour3k
29 Oct 16#9
I believe there's something in there somewhere that may help you out a wee little:
Why should you be able to unlock your mobile for free?
Hopefully these helps you out in some way too?. :-)
amour3k
29 Oct 16#7
Hahahahahaha, I definitely hear that!, lol. :-)
little_green
29 Oct 16#5
How easy to unlock?
Most networks are a carry in say they will unlock for free up usually require top ups and active sim for at least a few months or if o2 a year!
52919 to little_green
29 Oct 16#6
other thread says unlocking now free for payg
52919
29 Oct 161#4
I agree this site gives wierd heat somedays ! The OP said Hot others have not? I think this is a good deal if you have a small(ish) budget for a new phone I don't need one but I'm probably still going to buy one.... :smiley: & i was trying to avoid the normal "already posted" reply sorry 'ianmcleod' :wink:
amour3k
29 Oct 161#3
The irony is, your supplied link os at -26%, whereas the OP's Dral for exact same Product is rather at 46% ALREADY? (& Posted some 9+ hours too, AFTER the original one!).
Opening post
EE network but can be unlocked by EE for free now call customer to find out
This is a top spec has a good camera and a good octa core processor the screen is a full hd 1080p panel and 3gb ram good for mutli tasking and 16gb internal storage and micro sd slot. Android 6.0 installed
Also a finger print scanner for security and nfc for andriod pay
Youtube review
https://youtu.be/xugwW73pZDM
P9 lite clear case and glass protector £2.99 delivered ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311634906410
£9 qudico aswell
Free delivery
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I have checked it and found that it is the 3GB one that we have.
Remember VNS-L31 is 3GB version, VNS-L21 is 2GB version, the box will have the model number on it.
is this better than a htc one mini 2 or a Samsung s5
hth
I hope so, i don't want to be messing about over Xmas waiting 9 days to be able to unlock!
Huawei P9 lite is 3GB model
I must say as an Apple user for 3 years i switched to the P8 from the 5S and i have never looked back. These phones are incredible value and can do much more on Android than IOS (for me anyway)
Unless you are a brand snob or a follow the trend sheep, seriously try one of these phones. You wont be disappointed.
can you confirm the info above please? ta
Sorry :disappointed:
The nougat ROM is currently in Beta and the bods over at XDA forum have got been trying to load it.
Mine was a VNS-L31 single sim, but I converted it to dual sim using the guide on XDA P9 lite forum.
The phones are built as DUAL SIM by default, but the software switches off the second sim card depending on location and markets. Follow the guide here :- Your text here
The camera is a Sony censor, it is pretty decent but the JPEG processing engine is a bit severe, installing Open Camera enables Camera 2.0 settings and enables you to save RAW files if you are into photo post post processing.
For the price it is a lot bang for buck.
-Grey import
-CN version
-Much worse warranty
-Worse processor
-Arguably worse camera
-No NFC
-Older OS
I'm not sure I'd call that 'much better'
I've owned the P9 (not lite model) and it was a great phone.
Someone said earlier in this thread the phone has only one SIM. Are we sure of it, I was hoping it was a dual SIM as I would like this for my next phone. Can anyone who has the phone confirm ? Cheers.
I would say that they are nowhere near as bad as Vodafone
I swear EE must be one of the rubbishest and stupidest companies out there, along with GAME
https://www.venturedirect.co.uk/pages/search-results-page?q=redmi+note+3
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7863&&idPhone2=7983
and she says that I can expect delivery within 1-day.
LOL - I just do not want to go through another "Vodafone LG G2 Black Friday 2014 Saga!" if you guys remember...
I have a PAYG sim from EE and I really want this phone. Do I just buy the phone and put it in and I'm good to go?
Lol sounds like EE
I'm assuming no-one else has had problems ordering?
I looked at a few Chinese phones for the same price - came down to Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 & Gigaset ME.
Specs are a little bit lower on this, but decided it's worth the trade off for quick delivery, warranty/manufacturer support, and availability of custom roms.
The Mi Mix you mentioned will be about £400 won't it? If your budget is more than mine have a look at Lenovo ZUK Z2.
Mi Mix looks incredible but what about lower budget devices?
This p9 lite looks decent but not rlly world class, just seems like a standard 1080p
I paid £150 for my honor 5c which is very similar other than having only 2gb ram and the build quality being a little worse, as this is essentially just a better version I can only imagine this is even better.
I'll list my main points about the Honor 5c :
Fast even when multitasking
Battery life is amazing lasts me 1-2 days even with watching videos for a 2-5 hours
Cameras are good
Screen is decent the sharpness is good but it suffers in dark scenes even with lowered brightness
Also, does the free unlock definitely work if you call them? How does it work? Put the EE sim in, call them and request unlock, then switch the sims over?
Not having FM radio wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, but it would mean there would be occasions when I'd have to take a separate radio out with me.
TuneIn all the way for me. But I have unlimited data so don't have to worry about the data it uses.
https://www.carphonewarehouse.com/huawei/p9-lite.html?cid=PAIDSEARCH_Google_Feed+%2F+Huawei+%2F+P9+Lite_Core+Generics_P9+Lite+review_188668525686&s_kwcid=AL!2047!3!95308456566!e!!g!!p9%20lite%20review&device=c#!apacity=16GB&colour=black&capacity=16GB&dealType=sf
I have the H7 from new, it has been very good until I got the ZUK Z2. :smiley:
H7 has a better camera and slightly higher battery.
Which one is better this or Honor 7?
from what I've seen, p9 lite battery is 3000 vs 4000 approx on the redmi note 3. The UI are also different, but redmi has android lollipop vs marshmallow on p9.
Not sure about the ZTE
I believe they're around the same price mark.
thanks in advance :smiley:
Been considering the Xiaomi redmi pro 3 or 4 with 3GB/32-64GB and the ZTE Smart Ultra 6; now this P9 Lite model comes as an option too. Then you think: "black friday is just a month away, should I wait/gamble?"
It just makes it more difficult to decide....Suggestions???
anyone knows of this is a dual sim or single?
Why should you be able to unlock your mobile for free?
https://conversation.which.co.uk/technology/mobile-phone-unlocking-free-providers/
Unlocking EE phone was £8.99 now FREE
http://www.hotukdeals.com/freebies/unlocking-ee-phone-was-8-99-now-free-2532812
And/or this too:
Mobile phone providers to unlock mobiles for free (At contract end)
http://www.hotukdeals.com/freebies/mobile-phone-providers-unlock-mobiles-for-free-contract-end-2527031?aui=278&embed=true
Hopefully these helps you out in some way too?. :-)
Most networks are a carry in say they will unlock for free up usually require top ups and active sim for at least a few months or if o2 a year!
Hmmmmmmmmmmm, go figure?.