It's £150. What are you expecting? A Cray?

funny because 10 years ago I could do allsorts with a much lower spec machine than this one, play games, watch videos, browse the internet, use Office, the list is massive, yet a much more up to date machine won't do any of those?
You obviously have a much better system than this, shame it isn't good enough to let you post deals on a shopping forum, just trolling comments.

More than good enough.

Depends on how much you want your kids to hate you :wink:

You're not 'your'.

As long as your happy.

You're definitely on the spectrum....

My antique is running fine with Avast 10.4.2233 with current definitions and I've just reinstalled Firefox 48.0 with updates disabled. Perfectly secure and ideal for what I use it for. Mawarebytes is a no no, but the latest versions of Superantispyware, Spywareblaster and ZoneAlarm all run without any problems.

You really are a totally ignorant and unpleasant person. I don't suppose you've heard of shift work.

Nothing...if you're on the autistic spectrum and have nothing to do the next day.

Blimey didn't think I'd start an argument! I was only reinstalling Win XP for someone and naturally downloaded the latest AV, AVG didn't install (because it needed SSE2) and I don't think Avast did either. Turns out when he got it back he didn't even reconnect the machine back up as he had other machines to use and now has a new laptop (he's a bit of a hoarder I think). Apparently SSE2 was out when AMD made the Athlon XP's but decided for some reason not to include it. Sorry I brought it up now :smile:

What's so odd about 01:00 on a Monday?

​1am on a Monday morning and you're up posting that? :laughing:

Fact 1 - Modern AV works just fine on my 15 year old PC, though they wouldn't in my 386.

Fact 2 - Computers in 11 BC didn't have AV installed

Fact 3 - In a response to Zak, you said "Don't be daft. Norton, McAfee etc have been around since the dawn of time and installed perfectly well on Athlon based machines (I used to have one)." so not only do you not know what your talking about, your not even consistent in your argument. And why would anybody in their right mind install McAfee?

Fact 4 - A turbo charger wouldn't and couldn't work on a horse due to the lack of a constant positive pressure exhaust stream. Some form of ram jet however might be a possibility though the output would be intermittent and liable to be injurious to the horses nether quarters (that's the horse's 'ass', which you'll be able to identify with, as you clearly are one)

Ok all these negative comments on this then arguing is going to confuse people here is what people need to know.

Are you going to be able to play the latest games on it NO

Are you going to be able to browse the internet, play browser games, store photos, watch movies, write letters on it. YES, no problem at all. £150 for a brand new laptop even at basic specs is a bargain. Get if you just want a laptop for doing the above. Grab it with both hands.

(Sorry but I have to comment on one other thing the hard drive is not painfully slow, stop putting people off with daft comments like this. It is just fine for anyone to use.)

Reading comprehension clearly isn't your strong point. Then again, if you're trying to use modern AV on some ancient 15 year old PC, intelligence isn't your strong point either. What are you going to try next? Are you going to try and fit a turbo charger onto your horse? :laughing:

Er, if you read what you wrote, it isn't. Old Abe was right.

You're most welcome. Glad to be of assistance. :smiley:

Thank you, just did this and it worked a treat!

Er, that's what I already said in the previous post, you nugget.

You really should look at (adult?) literacy classes. Where did I say I was using 2016 software? My "15 year old obsolete hardware" runs MS Office without any issue.
The problems I had only applied to a few security programmes, and all of the problems can be overcome either by running an older version, as I have done with Avast, while keeping the definitions up to date or using an alternative such as Superantispyware rather than Malwarebytes.
I don't have my antique instead of a more modern PC. I have it as well as.

Perhaps you should heed the words of Abraham Lincoln -"Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt." :smiley:

Oh, I see - you're trying to use 2016 software on 15 year old obsolete hardware?

That's seriously dumb.

Just go back in a time machine and install the AV from 11BC that was intended to be used with your machine.

Does anyone know of any of these left? I went to The Bletchley store last night and was unlucky. Many thanks in advance

5400 rpm hd isnt the end of the world, sure not ideal but on a mobile device it will save a bit of battery, the same with the lower res screen, nobody with well balanced kids who arnt tech savy is going to get hated for this, if you are on a budget and it is a choice between no laptop or this laptop youre gonna get this laptop, or look for a refurb somewhere thats better but again, i stipulated "tech savvy" before, low res screen, fine for typing and browsing, low speed lower power hd, crap for loading games but not an issue, fine for accessing documents and the cpu is still a quad core, sure nothing is the best, but you dont get the best for 150 quid.

5400 rpm hd isnt the end of the world, sure not ideal but on a mobile device it will save a bit of battery, the same with the lower res screen, nobody with well balanced kids who arnt tech savy is going to get hated for this, if you are on a budget and it is a choice between no laptop or this laptop youre gonna get this laptop, or look for a refurb somewhere thats better but again, i stipulated "tech savvy" before, low res screen, fine for typing and browsing, low speed lower power hd, crap for loading games but not an issue, fine for accessing documents and the cpu is still a quad core, sure nothing is the best, but you dont get the best for 150 quid.

The intel pentium chips are waay faster than the pentiums of old, its the brand name for their tier of devices above celeron which represent their lowest tier cpu's, it will be good enough for the kids to write up homework and use the web for research, it will not play games bad the odd 2d game or older titles and wont be the fastest machine but compared to no laptop at all it will be a real boost.

Unlike you, Zak isn't being daft. The problem arises when the security package updates to a version that can't be run by your hardware. That's happened to me with Avast, Malwarebytes, ZoneAlarm to name but a few. Older processors just can't cope. I keep my 15 year old Athlon based PC alive as my printer and scanner won't work on my Windows 10 PC.

All, thank you for your comments. Can someone advise if I can upgrade the machine to Windows 10 without breaking the bank please? Thanks

With the £50 ssd that's on hukd, all in all £200 should make this into a decent machine?

Don't be daft. Norton, McAfee etc have been around since the dawn of time and installed perfectly well on Athlon based machines (I used to have one).

Bristol asda? Its a pretty big city.

Only thing this is decent for is watching videos.. and even that won't be great...

SPECS:
Intel Pentium N3540 (2.16 GHz, 2 MB cache, 4 cores) - [2 years old]
1TB 5400 rpm SATA - [*really* slow]
4GB 1600 MHz DDR3L SDRAM - [8GB MAX]
39.6 cm (15.6") LED (1366 x 768) Screen - [Pathetic resolution for screen size]

Nifty as in it'll do everything you want for browsing, emails, office applications etc. Nobody said it was a gaming machine. But then some of us use PCs as computers, not games machines.

That's the one. You might be able to install an older version of Avast. I've been ok with Avast and ZoneAlarm. When I get time, I'll get the previous version of Firefox and install that, then disable updates

I couldn't install an anti virus on an old Athlon or Sempron XP machine as they required SSE2 or one of those instruction sets, maybe something similar with the Firefox browser?

Pretty nifty for a 150.

As in "CPU's too old for latest Firefox" :smiley:

Just realised. If you kids are splitting an atom in half for their school homework . Then it will be sh**

It's fine for kids school.
Ignore that idiot.

Heat added

£150 is a good price for this machine. It's a slightly older spec, but the only PC you're getting for similar money these days is an HP Stream or similar, which is alot worse than the one in this deal. This PC will be fine for anything other than 3D gaming and even then, the older games like Half Life are still going to work.

What even immediately after where he said 'CPU's too old for latest Firefox', you couldn't have put two and two together? Ok.

It wasn't obvious to me.

It's quite obvious they missed out the word 'updates' or similar.

As hardware advances, the newer software is more demanding too (usually pointlessly) and that's what cripples modern low-end hardware even if it's perfectly capable in it's own right (iPhone 4s or iPad 2 on iOS 9 are a good example of this or modern websites which flood the browser with BS adverts).

Can you please explain to me how it's possible to "run out of browser"?

Up till a week or so ago, my nearly 15 year old PC would have been more than adequate for schoolwork etc., but alas no more - it's run out of browser - CPU's too old for latest Firefox.

I'm not sure if posting 2 comments in 4 years qualifies as trolling. :smile:

Yeah, I have an N3540 equipped 13" thin and light laptop and I use it for so much uni work - it's fine.
Not super fast but with Windows 10 it is fast enough. My laptop has a 5400rpm drive in it also. MS Word/Excel and an internet browser really aren't all that demanding.

​of course it is good enough as your getting it for school work and not gaming

More than good enough.

Which Bristol Asda did you find it in? Was it Cribbs Causeway or Filton?

great for basic spec laptop. the hard drive is the weakest link with speed

Depends on how much you want your kids to hate you :wink:

Heat.....£229 last time it was mentioned on here hotukd