this is an absolute bargain. as a heating engineer the cheapest i could normally buy this product is around the £100 mark.
to be honest dont be fooled by the version, for the money it is a steal.
heat added via app :smiley: thanks op

That is a pretty stupid statement. You don't have to gain the right to comment by posting deals.

You want to work for a commercial website without getting paid, others just come here for fun. People who don't post might click more links and be more valuable to the site than you.

does this need to be installed by an engineer or is it easy to diy? thanks for posting as having issues with our current thermostat.

I need to do some research on these as I'm sure the devils in the detail with regard to how this works and what it can be installed with.

this is an absolute bargain. as a heating engineer the cheapest i could normally buy this product is around the £100 mark.
to be honest dont be fooled by the version, for the money it is a steal.
heat added via app :smiley: thanks op

for those who have a boiler and cylinder
http://www.screwfix.com/p/hive-v1-central-heating-hot-water-controls/2470p

Can I use this to control my immersion element as I don't have central heating but want to switch the immersion on remotely when out from time to time!

​the link the op provided was to the combi verson hence the link for the system version

No, the link provided shows both versions, hence your post confuses others.

how easy is it to install?

Hive is great, but I'd go for the latest version. Installation took British Gas around an hour.

Just bought two of the tradional cylinder type. Screwfix have a 30 day return policy so if my research proves its a no go then I can return them.


Yes I was thinking these are a bargain. One question, I have bought one for my own house and one for my mother's. My house had separate control over CH and HW with the flow being directed via a danfoss 3 way valve. My mothers doesn't and she has options of HW or HW and CH. I assume that the CH and HW versions can handle this configuration?

Generally I have found this site ->http://www.smartofthehome.com/

Which has some good tear downs and API documentation.

So far I think I have found the following but may not be accurate to use at your own risk;

1. You will get 3 things in the box, Thermostat, Receiver and Bridge
2. Thermostat can replace your current one or be powered by batteries so can be portable (confirmation required)
3. Receiver replaces your current CH/HW controller and has a similar backplate fitting.
4. Bridge is to connect this to your router so allow control via mobile/web/api although potentially the above can act standalone without this (confirmation required). Looks as though this has a zigbee controller in it although I doubt this will be open for control via other zigbee controller.s
5. It appears this does access a "cloud" service on the internet and all mobile/web/api actions are performed via that.

All this is ok although I'd prefer to have an option where it doesn't have to rely on cloud services as they can have outages or be EOL at the providers discreation. Much prefer an option for local API control via my network without breaking out to their service. I then would have control about how this is presented to and secure on the internet.

worrying amount of 1* reviews on amazon. Alot claim the connection between the control at the boiler and hub isn't reliable.
Mainly for larger houses.

thanks for posting this. just about to have a new heating system installed and was looking at standard thermostat's around this price any way. having a smart system for the same price is a bonus.

could I leave my HW and CH programmer in place set to on all the time and just replace my current thermostat? I only really want to control heating remotely.

so looks like this would work with alexa? (Amazon Echo) for voice control?

Isnt that just a "controller" without thermostat?

Lol wrong on all accounts the newest is the v2 and it does the same as v1 but looks nicer

seems good deal.

Seems decent if you haven't got an existjng thermostat.

We've just moved and only had a 24 hour rotary programmer. Installed Nest myself last week - only four wires so sod paying £50 for 10 minutes work at the boiler. Took longer to drill and mount the Control unit downstairs!

Excellent finishing. I use that at home for the past couple of years or so. Very reliable.

Hi guys I dont know much about this sort of thing but can this be used with a Worcester 24i RSF-L Combi boiler as this is what I have. If so which one should I buy?

Any help appriciated :smiley:

thanks have ordered one with dual controls - appreciate the deal!

Amazon Echo compatible?

Pack contains Active heating hub, thermostat, receiver, power adaptor, ethernet cable, 2 x AA batteries and wall fixings. Great price if you need one of these but my current setup does all I want and being able to control heating / hot water when away from home would be of very limited use. My concerns are what Welshblob said i.e. you do not control it directly when away from home but via a Cloud service which could be offline or they start charging for it. The other thing is that you seem to need to connect your Broadband hub to the controller via Ethernet cable or is there a WiFi option?

So what's the difference between this one and the "full kit" set for 150 quids?

This is the full kit but the v1. What I expect you are looking at is the v2.

Nah, the full kit which usually costs 150 and was on sale for 100 couple of weeks ago was also v1.
So unless Screwfix is selling same thing under two different names and prices, those kits need to differ somehow.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hive-v1-both-versions-full-kit-only-109-99-screwfix-2526873

From the item description .... PRODUCT CONTENTS
Active heating hub, thermostat, receiver, power adaptor, ethernet cable, 2 x AA batteries and wall fixings.

The picture shows the receiver and the box which says it includes all the components.

Also the links in the deal you linked to also go to these products and show the cheaper prices.

I expect this is being cleared possibly due to the connection issues mentioned above and/or they are pushing the newer versions. One of the reasons it might not have sold at the cheaper price last week is that these are not necessarily plug and play devices as you do need to do some wiring on the controller side which would put some people off.

Thanks for explanation.
Also that's little bit off topic, but are there any devices which can be installed on electricity meter and monitor electricity usage in whole house?

​https://www.amazon.co.uk/Loop-Energy-Electricity-Monitor-tracker/dp/B00BQCG7RQ

I have one along with the gas monitor. Has an app. for remote monitoring but the device is purely passive.

Automatically cold I'm afraid because that utter **** in the adverts is one of the most irritating dickheads of all time! I'm worried about my TV every time it comes on - worried because I might automatically throw something...

Great find. Just bought it. My last basic programmable stat was about this price, so excellent price.

Install video if needed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh0-Z6R194Q

Great deal OP, bought!

Been running it for nearly two years without a hitch (other than when we lost broadband, so not a Hive issue). Works well, hasn't gone wrong, saved it's installation cost in about 14 months on my math.

Great deal OP, bought!

I had a similar issue when it was first fitted with it disconnecting. The help I got was first class they call me back to save my phone bill and sent out the smart plug for next day delivery. Not had an issue since that was installed.

Does anyone know if this will work with the Amazon Echo/Dot?

How are you comparing it to your old system to get to your cost savings?

How hard is it to install this myself? Any links to resources (other than those already posted)?

Err you missed posting the link for the Hive V3 for £54.99? This is a 'Deals' site, not 'Buy the best available at any price' site.

Further do note, 'there' vs 'their' vs 'they're': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y4zxcSuwlI

That is a pretty stupid statement. You don't have to gain the right to comment by posting deals.

Yes, but majority of stupid comments comes from people who never posted a deal... coincidence ?

They aren't stupid comments, just comments. You look stupid by reacting to them.

I've a Worcester Bosch 37CDI combi boiler. It looks like I've got to do something with the 'ST10' connection on my boiler? Hopefully I can sort this out covertly without my wife demanding I get a professional in?

They are stupid comments ...and people posting them are only here for a good fun - not for sharing deals or giving useful advices.

Had this now for about year and half.. No issues works very well...

You want to work for a commercial website without getting paid, others just come here for fun. People who don't post might click more links and be more valuable to the site than you.

Purely on my reduction in direct debit after that time. I just found out hat I was more aware of what I was using, and able to adjust it more easily.

Great deal, Hive works really well for me with total control. Swear by them tbh

bought an fitted today, happy so far

Bought the last one in my area - was so easy to set up and install , didn't even need to bother wiring it up - same set up as the transmitter I had on the wall , just had to swap transmitters , all working well . Thanks OP .

I'm a bit confused by the 2 versions listed
For a combi boiler do I need this one -
Hive V1 Central Heating & Hot Water Controls?

No, that is the one if you have a separate hot water cylinder.

Buy this one for a combi boiler:
http://www.screwfix.com/p/hive-v1-central-heating-controls/7159p

Saw these on offer in Screwfix today and bought 4 (we fit them). This v1 is the one I have in my home, it's spot on. I fitted a version two on friday, they're a little easier to use and a bit prettier but also much chunkier. I actually never use the thermostat, I only ever use the app.

Thanks OP. Purchased, fitted and all working in around an hour. You would pay almost this price for a traditional digital thermostat without the smart functionality. Fantastic deal. Have some err heat...:wink:

Bought - cheers OP, been wanting to go 'smart' for a while, and at this price, its worth a go.

​Yes, you can set the temperature and turn the heating on and off with your voice once you've installed the Hive skill on your Echo.

It works well with the Echo but I find I hardly need to use it as Hive just works once set up if you have a regular routine. It would probably be very useful if you worked variyng shifts and your routine wasn't as straightforward.

+1 really really nice upgrade for your home!

Amazon Alexa Compatible
https://www.hivehome.com/alexa

this is a good site for advice if you need help installing the Hive
http://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/hive-installation-advice.447896/#post-3520072

this is the URL for the hive installation PDF, that apparently is pretty good if you read the forums

https://www.hivehome.com/hive-self-install

Good spot! Was looking to fit the V2 to my sons flat but at this price you can't go wrong. Heat added.

can you change password etc, to prevent these being used as a puppet in DDos attacks etc.?

this is a bargain. great find.

Based on this answer I have ordered.
The hub has to be connected via ethernet to your router. When Hive is installed for you the engineer connects it all up for you - you don't do it yourself. The thermostat is completely wireless so can be placed anywhere within wireless range of the hub. In my house the router and hub are in the upstairs box room, the thermostat is in the hall downstairs, and the boiler & its Hive receiver are in a utility room at the back of the house.

PRODUCT CONTENTS
Active heating hub, thermostat, receiver, power adaptor, ethernet cable, 2 x AA batteries and wall fixings.

When you say Echo is that just a repeat of a question asked earlier in the thread?

Just moved into our first home 4 days ago and our thermostat for the combi boiler is playing up. Wish they had stock in Leicester /Nottingham areas. Damn it. Don't suppose anyone living in an area with stock would be willing to grab an extra one and be willing to post? :disappointed:

Oh well, not available near me or for delivery

Bought one about 70 miles from me! I'll go into local store and get them to send it to there!

ahhh buggaa. The price went back up just as I was about to checkout.

​exactly the same just happened to me. PayPal total changed to £109 just as I was about to click confirm

Seems to still be £55 when I just checked and added to basket/checkout.

Went through to pay at a store near tomorrow's journey and got the same result. ****. So ring in the morning and see if I can get it via phone at that price

bought one from a Leicester branch yesterday on a whim. swapped it over with existing controller but now realised I need another 2 wires to the boiler as I didn't previously have a thermostat just a programmer.

Happy doing myself but also noticed in the box is a scratch off panel on a card which I believe gives you a code to ring BG to get the engineer out. If this includes installation for 55 quid it surely is a crazy hot bargain?

Hi all, can I fit this to a Worcester 24i boiler about 3yr old?

Do you need a subscription to use this via internet?

Not clear from googling.

Any input on whether the installation is included? If not what is the scratch panel code for?

Are you sure you need that as it will just send a demand to the boiler with the new thermostat talking directly to the receiver?

Expired. £109 now

Yes and a BS was price of £169.99!

I pick mine up tonight from Stamford, lincs. The comment is very interesting over the scratch card, that was referred to off an amazon post I just read. If it does incl fitting then its a steal at £55

"So, in the box with the thermostat unit is a small card with a scratch card panel with a code. I scratched off the card and phoned British Gas as instructed to have it installed"

Has anyone called British Gas to ask for no-cost install?

in theory yes......as it seems you have a combi boilder. don't attempt it unless you are competent with electrics, and know how your heating electrics hangs together

this is a good site I have used before to get my current Scottish power connect wired in (which is a pile of poo)

http://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/hive-installation-advice.447896/#post-3520072

Bought this yesterday, installed it in 10 minutes, turned electrics off, slid the old timerswitch (acl Drayton LP111) off its backplate which was 'UT2' compatible so the hive control box just slid straight on, no messing with wires!

So if your timer looks like this, should be an easy swap:


Old dial thermostat is still on the wall. Stuck the nest one next to it with command strips.

It's okay for 50 quid but I'm glad I didn't pay any more. IMO it's false advertising to call this 'smart', it's just a wireless thermostat with a 7 day timer and an extra box (to plug into your router) so that you can use an app.

But once you set up the timers there's not much use for the app, aside from turning the heating up without getting off your ****!

The geolocation stuff doesn't actually control the heating, it just pops up a notification when you leave to remind you to switch the heating off (and even that doesn't work properly). To have multiple people use the app you have to share your email and password, you can't add new users.

Finally, the thermostat itself doesn't seem very sensitive, It was freezing cold last night and it still showed 19 degrees.

I fitted mine last year.. well chuffed with it and the smart app is pretty feature rich, with is good!

ref the voucher "scratch card" comments....this said to "setup your account- ring this number" and quote the number on it. nothing about fitting it....so I think this is a smoke screen (I could be wrong) but it was easy to wire in, and setup IMHO (and I work in IT and sit behind a desk all day)

no, but like I said, use the DIY forum for help if you are competent with electrics/electronics. Even BG hive fitters will respond back to you on this forum, but there are a lot of questions about wiring it in etc.

That's good news as I'm fitting this for my mum who lives 180 miles away. I have a spare LP522 that I was originally going to hack to make into a smart controller via linking it up to a raspberry pi, but I never got around to it. So its good to know that if this Hive one borks at some point then I should be able to get my brother to just swap it out with the LP522 without any hassle.

I just collected my order.
Actually it's V2!!
Fitting for combi boiler version doesnt seem to be hard, basically you will need four wires, first two pins are going to mains (or live and ground pins in the boiler) and pins no. 1 and 3 are going to the boiler to controller output (doesnt matter in what order).

Collected Monday. Fitted Tuesday in about half hour after checking out wiring online. Replaced and old dial timer 20 years old and it works a treat. The online control is great from my phone. Will work as stand alone unit but the
hub connects you to the net. Just had to set up free account using the scratch card inside box. Once that was done I was up and running.

I bought heating and hot water version can this will work with combi boiler I not have the water tank ?

Maybe, the CH and HW ones are just two channel vs one for the combi for the CH. I haven't installed mine yet so may have more info after that.

Thanks for reply
Just what I think but the CH one got "common" connection with CH&HW haven't

Did you not have to replace your boilers existing wireless receiver? I have a Viessmann Vitodens boiler, it would be great if I can just use its existing receiver!

I've done the same, purchased the CH & HW but only have a combi. Don't want to open until I'm sure it will work, any update would be great guys. Failing that I'll sell on and look to buy the CH only version. Cheers!

Just popped back to say. Installed myself. No experience. Googled my existing wiring set up and even found someone had posted my old controller converted to Hive. 4 wires. 2 lives 1 common 1 heating on. Simple. Took about 15mins start to finish. Cheers

Did mine today. Took 30 mins from beginning to the end. Already pleased with it.

General Fitting Advice

These instructions for the Drayton LP range are very useful in showing the different wiring connections for the various timer and programmer modules out there;

http://www.draytoncontrols.co.uk/sites/default/files/LP522%20%28U.%26I.%20Guide%29.pdf

FYA the LP522 has exactly the same wiring and back plate as the Hive receiver and so if you match up the connections for that on the instructions then the Hive will work.

Finished fitting my mums yesterday which was a bit more involved I had to replace a very old Switchmaster 400 which didn't have a common back plate but was referenced in the instructions above. I also traced out the wiring to ensure I understood how it worked and I'm still a biut unsure as there is either a junction box or another device between the wire at the controller and hall thermostat. Wired like for like for the time being to be safe. Anyway this system was a gravity fed HW system with pumped CH which basically means that you either have HW or HW and CH. The Hive has a setting for this which can be invoked by pressing the HW button on the receiver for 10 seconds as you power it up (its in the instructions). I now have the Hive installed but have the option to go back to an LP522 (had this spare) in case there are issues and I'm not around to fix them (will get someone to switch the Hive receiver for the LP522 which is a 2 minute job)

So called the Hive registration line last night and set up an account. I've received the email to set the password but that is failing at the moment so will call them shortly.

A couple of questions I asked was whether you can just buy a second hand kit off ebay and register that. They said no you can't as its a data protection issue with the hive bridge which stores some data. I'm sure that's nonense as its not like that information is accessible and it does appear to have a reset button. I guess its their party though and I'm not paying anything for their service (currently!) so they can do what they like. I also asked what happens if BG decides to EOL this model / online support and I was told about the standalone mode which was more from the perspective of the broadband going down. When I pushed this I was told it was unlikely that they would end support as they have invested alot, are going into other countries and its the future etc. etc. I guess we'll see on that one. Oh and they were interested as to where I purchased it from and for how much. Not sure screwfix is going to get a slap for selling them off cheap.

Just need to understand the quirks now with things like the receiver acting on more than one command within a minute (light flashes and performs the action after a minute). Also need to see what can be done from the thermostat as I think its missing some boost functions for CH and I doubt you have any control over the timers from this in standalone mode.

Will also look to see the API is any good and if so will add some addional functions for CH / HW boost from a raspberry pi controlled via an infra-red remote.

Using HW/CH Receiver on Combi Boiler

So I've found this link which may help or may not help ....

http://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/help-hive-2-thermostat-wiring-to-logic-combi-30.456702/

By the looks of it the difference between the gravity-tank and combi controllers other than being dual and single channel is what supplies the switched "live" feed. With the gravity-tank, the programmer/hive supplies the "live" connection to the terminals internally to the programmer/hive itself. Whereas all the programmer/hive all its doing with the Combi version is switching an internal relay. In this case the "live" feed is supplied via the combi boiler itself to the "com" connection (1) on the single channel programmer/hive which internally is just the com connection to the relay. When the single channel programmer/hive CH is off the relay is in the default normally closed (NC) position which supplies this "live" feed to the "Heating Off (NC)" connection 2. When the single channel programmer/hive CH is on the relay is energised and switches supplies this "live" feed to the "Heating Om (NO)" connection 3. It looks as though the manual I linked to above for the Drayton LP range has this described as "Wiring for a timeswitch" and shows a diagram of the internal connectivity which may help to make it clearer.

Therefore from my current understanding the answer to "what should I connect the common to" is connect it to nothing as its not needed i.e. tape it up or connect it to a terminal block and tape it up. The "live" feed should be supplied by the Hive receiver itself and you just need to connect CH Off (if needed) and CH on as per the dual channel Hive connections.

Assumptions and Disclaimer
1. I am assuming that the "live" feed from the combi boiler is 230V and constant i.e. not switched as part of a control / shutdown circuit (not sure why this would be)
2. This assumes you also have a separate mains supply to your timer/programmer currently
3. I'm really not sure why Combi's are wired like this and not knowing concerns me as I may have missed something
4. If I was attempting to do this then I'd probably do some testing of the live feed from the boiler and some reading around hows its supposed to work.
5. I could be wrong as I'm doing this as a paper exercise so anything you choose to do is done at your own risk.

What a brilliantly informative post! Thank you!

No problem, hopefully it will help someone. I managed to set my hive password in the end, it looks as though my mobile number was wrong so it wouldn't create the account and just told me to phone customer services. Surprised this isn't a bit more automated via the website but maybe they will do this at some point in the future.

So now just learning how to use the system. Tried a timer which worked, tried a CH boost which initially worked but then tafter a while the CH led started flashing on the receiver and the HW was off as well (should be on with demand for CH on my system). I have noticed that despite the receiver knowing about the gravity fed condition in mine, so when CH is on, HW is also on, the receiver correctly turns both on and shows the appropriate LEDs but the app thinks the HW is off. Not a showstopper but could lead to confusion.

Did mine through the hive app. Easy peasy. Set up a new gmail account for the hive then used that for the account registration. All done in a few minutes. If we ever move, i can give the details to the new owners without giving away my email address etc.

Yeah don't bother ringing them you can just register an account through the app or website and type the number in from the back of the hub (box plugged into router) to add it to your account.

Thank you welshblob for nice replay
I just wondering about the "live" I mean "Connection" from the combee boiler to Single Channel Hive could be low voltage like 24v But the live to "CH ON" in dual channel is robably 220 V

Guys, great responses however, It sounds like a jobs worth to install the dual channel receiver on a combi.

Be interested if I can purchase a single channel reciever and pair it with the hub and thermostat, anyone tried this?

Apologies for not adding much to the thread in terms of resolving the issue but my technical knowledge pretty weak in this area. If anyone has a solution I'd be most grateful.

I've seem the single channel receivers on eBay for £20 or so.

Anyone had any joy installing the heating & hot water on a combi? cheers