One of the reviews :laughing:



The picture is upside down! The picture it's self seems great but lags so bad, especially on ps4.

I would have thought after realising it's upside down, the PS4 lag would be irrelevant!

its a £199.99p ! As long as it works and the picture is half decent it's a deal ! No doubt we will have the "but it's only got 7 hdmi sockets brigade explaining that their tv that they paid £9000 for is better cos it's got 8" commenting on why they voted cold !

​German things work. End of.

That's a crackers price for a 4K tv.

Cue the 4K TV independent HUKD panel......

That's a crackers price for a 4K tv.

Cue the 4K TV independent HUKD panel......

Insane, I might get it to put me on while I get a diff model then move this to the bedroom!

Hot.

The brand name sounds German, but hopefully it's not as bad as that.

its a £199.99p ! As long as it works and the picture is half decent it's a deal ! No doubt we will have the "but it's only got 7 hdmi sockets brigade explaining that their tv that they paid £9000 for is better cos it's got 8" commenting on why they voted cold !

Can't argue with they price at all

Heat added for that price

Good deal. Well nearly too good to be true. Even at its original price it's a steal haha.

Would this have HDR also? for use with xbox one S and ps4 pro

Interesting.......

load or crap ...cheap for a reason it's probably half as good as a 4 year old plasmas 1080p

wouldn't but this in my shed

Nah, not as often as they should anyway.

I believe this is the TV: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/bauhn-48-4k-ultra-hd-tele-299-99-aldi-2325502

Amazing price, however reviews are shocking.

https://www.aldi.co.uk/p/71056/0

Main issues seem to be bad lip syncing and apps that are installed are useless.
The Aldi website says it is not in stock however the stores may still have them in.

Still - £200. Even if you get a faulty one, it is still worth the risk of having to go back for a full refund.

Might not be in stock due to the fact only released on Oct 20th...

The people of Dudley will be having riots on the opening day for this !! will be like the Black friday sales down in London !! Awesome deal....if you can get one . :sunglasses:

Reviews are off putting. It's cheap but so are turd sandwiches.

£200 is still a good amount of money and definitely worth some research before spending it. I can't comment on the TV, but I would rather spend double or even triple that amount for a TV that is known for having a long life expectancy (reliable) and that you won't regret having bought. It's your money, but make sure you don't regret spending it on something that doesn't pay off in the future :wink:

3 years warranty as well.

That jump start with compressor looks a good deal

waste £200 on this to realise you messed up and spend another 700 on a half decent TV

£200 mistake you can't Polish and turd

Except for when they break down of course like any other man made product out there!

Presumably it is a 2015 Vestel re-badge (look like the standard non-modified Vestel 2015 feet on it?).

I want one...for that price its a steal

People see "4K" and "£199" and lose their minds. I've seen some of the reviews and they're absolute junk.


Don't scrimp on shoes, beds or tv's because we spend a third of our lives using one or the other.

I don't understand the flippant attitude in the comments towards people who do the legwork for people like myself in explaining whether or not a tv deal is worth the money or not.

In this case they probably won't contribute as it doesn't take a genius to work out that a £200 "4k" tv from Aldi won't be any good whatsoever.

Got to love the snobbery.

Like pretty much any 4k TV of the year that it was made, you won't get the full benefit of the limited amount of 4k content unless you sit 3 feet from it but the same is true of something costing 3 times as much with a more well known badge on it.

But for a 48" set, once you play around long enough with the settings it will display a perfectly adequate picture for most content and on a big screen.

So for the price, it will do the job that most people will expect itto.

Crazy price. Probably doesn't have the fancy bells and whistles more pricier brands offer but if it displays 4K on a 48" screen then that's a bargain.

These are great as rolling menus in a shop.

Yes :smiley:

What? Out of date, cliché'd Rubbish - the Germans don't do electronics mate and, frankly, German stuff often costs a lot more and are not better made at all.

The Germans do White goods and over priced cars all of distinctly average reliability when you examine price/performance. Their power tools are bettered by the Americans and Japanese these days...Bosch are nowhere near as good as they were.

Does anyone know if this is a nationwide deal?

Will it be available in most stores on the 20th?

Does this have hdmi 2.0? If not, how will you get that lovely 4k signal to the TV?

Wish it was national. I can't justify coming to dudley just to buy this TV

Racist. :stuck_out_tongue:

Oh shut up, for £200 this is an incredible deal ! Well found op !!

Sh*t I'm old thought 4K was HDR ??? Help me I'm 40

When/if it blows up is it hard to get another? As customer service is shocking at my local?

I was thinking that...

​it's actually 5 foot from a 50" screen viewing 4k content

​ha no 4k is the resolution and HDR is high dynamic range which is the contrast and colours makes for a for real and deep picture

One of the reviews :laughing:



The picture is upside down! The picture it's self seems great but lags so bad, especially on ps4.

I would have thought after realising it's upside down, the PS4 lag would be irrelevant!

This. Take their cars, you get extra emmissions management for free :disappointed:

Heat added, great price

Anyone know where I can get a ceiling mount for this? :wink:

Hot

Unfortunately for me, I work for aldi. I can guarantee you won't find this in any store. This is a special offer for a new store opening to draw people into the store. The stock that didn't sell in stores last time round is withdrawn and used for these new stores. There will be hundreds of people outside on opening day and there will be about 12 tv's. Well done if you manage to pick one up though.

Your level of 'fail' is unbelievable high. You only have to look at car reliability to see 7 out of 10 of the least reliable cars are german and often with extremely high repair costs too. Just look at this site which is based on pure statistics no bias or opinion. Bottom right on home page.

http://www.reliabilityindex.com/

You can make the case the japanese make reliable products but there are always exceptions but certainly not German nowadays you are probably 20 years out of date.

Have a look at this list to see how many German brands make it into the top 10 or even top 20.

http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer

Not that this tv is German it will be chinese parts assembled probably in Europe somewhere and looking at that other comment poorly assembled.

Instead of spending £200 now, save money and buy something good for £600 later one, something that'll last you 5 years.

Nah, no inverter on it

Hotter than a vindaloo. Have some heat!

It this is Vestel rebadged, so Vestel is Turkish not German (Vestel is going to manufacture Toshiba licensed TVs into European market as well). It's why sound-and-vision occasional desync occurs (as reviews say). It might be 200 pounds of troubles, but if that model is reworked/updated, so might be hot occasion for average TV users.

how do you fit a lawnmower in a tv?

​load of crap maybe but sure if it's German it will outlast even your shed

I used to be of the opinion that German built meant superior quality that lasted. Now i think they're living off a reputation that's in the past.

Don't buy aldi electronics, crap and incredibly hard to get repaired

It's only in the new store that is opening though right? And probably limited to 5 in the store. Great deal for the locals that get one though.

Looks a beaut to me mate, good onya cobba

Germans don't do electronics? Haven't you heard of Siemens?

Just incase you haven't, they made £70 billion in revenue last year :neutral_face:

Basically you need a 4K tv with HDR on top of that no point in getting one with a 8 bit panel as there is no significant gain to be had you need one with a 10 bit panel i'm guessing that you would be hard pressed to find that spec for under £600.On the TV in question a friend bought one when on sale in our local aldi it was awful gaming was hopeless as the lag was very noticeable,the screen refresh rate was very poor and it did not matter what we did the sound was very tinny far too much treble on every setting.

Reviews on this are terrible, it's not worth the hassle

I don't think anyone who is only prepared to splash out £199 on a 4K TV realises they currently can't get a UHD Blu Ray Player for less than the cost of the TV, let alone be more than frugal to allow the monthly spend on sub-par bit rate Netflix or BT so called 4K transmissions, if their broadband speed suffices. Not to mention this does not even support HDR.

The market simply is not mature enough with 4K yet, but I am sure people will be queuing to attempt to get this deal, slap a higher resolution LCD panel in a budget TV without any benefits that in this instance nano/quantum backlighting or the currently expensive OLED gives, and people think they need the upgrade to 'futureproof' themselves. Blissfully unaware of the technicalities of receiving native resolution footage or for that matter lack of compatibility with what both Microsoft and Sony are providing with HDR colour.

I live within about a 20 minute drive from the store, I am more than happy to stick with a 50" Plasma which I know offers a much better picture at 1920x1080 and happily let the market of 4K TVs mature.

Anyone that thinks they have the bragging rights of attempting to keep afloat with technology at this price, the last laugh is on yourself. £200 wasted.

Ice Cold.

don't waste your money mate, missus bought me one for my birthday, compressor worked once and packed in, other, couldn,t start my mothers Honda accord 2.4 petrol, used jump leads in the end, piece of crap or a turd sandwich

as bad as Bosch Mercedes porsche bmw braun ect ect, is that what you mean? german manufacturings got a really poor reputation ha

I agree - those V2s were always conking out over blighty.

​They have a fabulous reputation, you are 100% right. The issue is it's mythology.

​I'd be willing to bet that most Siemens end products will be full of Japanese and Korean components.

It was a joke about the TV actually being German. If it was, it would be £1,299, even worse quality, and be getting snapped up by idiots everywhere!

By the end of the war, Siemens was operating almost 400 alternative or relocated manufacturing plants, which supplied electrical parts to concentration camps. Malnutrition and death were common in the camp factories. The factories were created, run, and supplied by the SS, which under Himmler’s command was responsible for crimes against humanity during World War II, in conjunction with company officials. During this time, Siemens used forced and slave labour at Ravensbrück concentration camp and in the Auschwitz subcamp of Bobrek, among others.

I got a 43" hisense that's a 10-bit panel and HDR compatible for £299 from AO. Still available but £350 now. Great TV.

WARNING: YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR

​Your mum is an idiot my friend :man:

but it's only got 7 hdmi sockets

Strange just had a look and the cheapest Hisense 4K TV with HDR i could see on AO is £800 and no detail on screen type is available link

but has it got got 7 hdmi sockets?

There are limits to how far costs can be cut before it's no longer worth doing at all. Buy (too) cheap, buy twice.

Mmm yes, that reminds me, I want to find my snorkel parka. You've reawakened the urge in me to go train-spotting

I heard they go down a bomb

bargain

What a PATHETIC example. Is this a thread about MRI scanners or other niche equipment? Siemens is a multinational and significant R&D is done in the UK and other nations also. Siemens had to partner with Fujitsu just o manufacture average and over priced PC's.

Mainstream electronics are NOT a German Forte and that is obvious...Siemens make great headsets but then the British manufacture some of the highest quality Audio Equipment in the world but I'm not running around saying the British are the only name out there as was suggested about Germany.

What about the EU?

this tv will only be in new aldi stores. they always have offers when opening

1 electronics manufacturer 3 car manufacturer and 1 white good/tool manufacturer. This is a thread about electronics.

With all due respect no one said German manufacturing was "Bad" The issue is the myth that Germany is the be all and end all. Having a German flag on the box in 2016 is absolutely no guarantee of great reliability and certainly not great price/performance all you have done is list car manufacturers of which the ACTUAL Price performance is questionable as already indicated in another post. Bosh are now a high price/average reliability manufacturer and who gives a **** about Braun? lol

The simple point was that the whole "I'm gonna say buy German and leave the thread" nonsense is a decade out of date. The Koreans make excellent white goods these days for example and the Japanese and Americans make better power tools.

Great Tv, I got one about 6weeks ago in Milnrow, Rochdale, no problem at all

Your Mum would love it, I got one about 6 weeks ago, no problem at all

​Volkswagen

Just helping out :smiley:

They also constructed the Nazi death chambers!

You get what you pay for when it comes to HDTVs for the most part.

​whats your point exactly?

This is the sort of set that will put people off 4k for life, just like the red blue glasses did for 3d.

Anyone want to buy a Panasonic badge to stick on it?

Panasonic already stick their badges on enough cheapo TVs!

​I wouldn't but you in my shed... lol

​People need shoes and beds. You can live without a TV quite happily.

​You make some fair points, however this is still a lot of TV for the money.

If I bought this, I would connect to my pc which has hdmi 2.0. There is plenty of UHD content available on the high seas.
Ohoy!

AO never had a 10 bit Hisense TV for £299 or £350. He's probably referring to the M3000 or M3300 which are not 10 bit.

Hello Captain Obvious, Isn't this the case on everything?

I pretty much knew before i looked and i think in my initial post the minimum of £600 for 4K HDR and 10 bit combo was an underestimate.

Let's face it the picture quality on this will probably **** compared a well known branded 4k tv but its still cheaper than well known branded 1080p tvs and I am sure this TV will out perform SOME well known brand TVs

Sound is atrocious picture is good
Got one last time they were being sold.
I had to take 3 back before I got one working OK without something wrong somewhere

And this WHAT to do with 4K TVs exactly ?

I believe it's probably Chinese

Great price

These are complete rubbish.

I had one and on the 3rd week lines appeared on the screen.

You get what you pay for, ended up with a Sony.

I disagree about it being a "pathetic" example.

Incase you didn't realise I responded to a comment which stated that Germans are no good at electronics. That is simply not true.

so youre going to have to be in Dudley Wednesday night, then Thursday morning fight over a very small quantity of this item.​

It's not Chinese it's a Vestel.

It's pretty much the same situation as phones. If you look at alibaba you will find many manufacturers of tv logic boards which range in quality and also how much cpu power, gpu power and memory they have all using SOC's from various manufacturers.

If you cost down the parts to the cheapest 4k panel, slowest logic board that can still process 4k with the weakest audio amplifiier and smallest tiniest speakers you can meet a price point but the end tv will be full of compromises like motion judder, minimal picture processing, high input lag etc.

Then send all the kits to Europe where a factory somewhere will be filled with low skilled people assembling them and putting a 'Made in Turkey' or Slovakia, Czech republic, UK, Germany, Poland etc depending on where the assembly factory is based.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/32-42-65-inch-LED-LCD_60187625318.html

What's in a name? Morphy Richards and Pye should be British. But they're not, they were though. Having said that, lot of TV for 200 smackers.

I bought a Siemens oven, stove and combi oven two years back. The stove was non functional on arrival; the oven control panel was faulty, meaning it was impossible to operate and the combo has some niggling issues too. It took Siemens around 10 weeks to issue replacements. In my experience they are rubbish and their annual turnover provides no reflection on their reliability.

I agree with those stating German quality isn't what it used to be.

​Never owned a Porsche have you? Major engine problems are a known and accepted quirk across the range.

Nah it was the V1's that were troublesome, spluttering, kicking out loads of emissions then conking out and falling to the ground, they got better with the V2's, a far superior product but quality control was an issue when they put it out to no name OEM's to build on the cheap and they just put their badge on the front. Similar to what big brands do with Vestel and UMC TV's

Edit: my legal team advise that I must put a disclaimer here, all comments above are for comedic value only and in no way condone anything the nasty nazis did, also it must be said that Vestel or UMC are in no way similar to any sort of fascist totalitarian state. Apologies in advance for all the upset these comments will invariably cause.

I'm not a 4K tv snob honestly ...

But when a 48 inch TV starts at £300 and gets reduced to £200 I start asking questions.....

If u wanna buy a budget tv then go for Hisense

You forgot toilets, some of us not only spend a third of our lives in bed, in shoes and watching TV's but also spend another third of our lives on the toilet.

Would this have the Netflix and Amazon Video apps?

all the snobs who are slaging this tv don't buy, but £200 for a 4k bedroom tv with it's 3yr warranty. go and buy a sony etc with it's fantastic 1yr warranty.

​You're chatting smelly brown stuff, Never heard of this make, so I wouldn't risk going out and spending £200 on it, HDR, 10-bit, Input lag etc. are all very relevant things to consider before buying a TV for loads of people. Doubt many people on hukd have spent 9 grand on a tele either haha!

all the snobs who are slaging this tv don't buy, but £200 for a 4k bedroom tv with it's 3yr warranty. go and buy a sony etc with it's fantastic 1yr warranty.

all the snobs who are slaging this tv don't buy, but £200 for a 4k bedroom tv with it's 3yr warranty. go and buy a sony etc with it's fantastic 1yr warranty.

All the thirds are used up so they cant possibly spend another third on the toilet...

It was the m3000. I got it two weeks ago. Must have taken them off now. The threads are prob still on here if you search for them. With a bit of luck they might become available again. Argos had them for the same price too. Ticks all boxes for Xbox one s.

Comments should be disabled on TV threads :smirk:

yeah 200 is cheap but lip sync issues would be a deal breaker, maybe they will fix it.

Allot people could'nt care less about 4k / 8k / 16k / HDR / ULTRA HDR / ULTRA Premium HDR / TLA compatibility / 8 bit / 10 bit / lots of bits / and just want a basic TV.

The only worrying thing mentioned so far is lipsync issues which make it well worth avoiding if true.

I presumed from the literature that came with it that China WAS it's origin.
But may be wrong, wouldn't be the first time ! :laughing:

hemce the etc. :wink:

The only thing "British" about them are greedy businessmen who sold out and sacked British workers in the 70s to have them all made in China and Far East while the Germans didn't and now have the most complaete manufacturing base in Europe because of it, and trusted brand names while the British names aren't.

That'll be why their sales keep on climbing every year, then ?

No that's due to a mixture of trading on past glories, customer ignorance, great marketing and also still selling some good quality products.

Mercedes owners often say the older cars were more reliable and better built; definite drop off in quality in those respects over the last 5-8 years.

Not at all. They've built up a deserved reputation. Like Britian did before the directors of British companies destroyed our manufacvturing base with the help and assistance of Tory government (using OUR money to help them close down British factories. And they're STILL doing it)
If it was down to advertising, then British goods should be sweeping all before them.
They're not.
A good example is Tumble dryers. Guess which ones are the only ones NOT being the ones to be exploding and bursting into flames ?

Yes it's quite the conundrum.

Only ones not bursting into flames? Just how flammable do you think tumble dryers are.

VW diesels ? cough cough.....

Your viewpoint seems to be, dare I say slightly nuts. Many of the old British brands kept their british factories going to the bitter end when in fact they probably could have saved themselves if they had moved production to cheaper countries but instead they persevered with their british factories and went to the wall. Then the brand gets sold off to some other company either British or foreign that just slaps the brand on imported products.

There has been huge issues and recalls with German white goods. See this one;

http://www.itv.com/news/2014-05-27/hotpoint-bosch-dishwasher-safety-recall-how-to-check-your-machine/

Still about half a million in the UK unaccounted for but other comments have said they were fairly unreliable so a large percentage may not be in use anymore anyway.

The issue is the same for most countries where it becomes too expensive to make products so ways are found of making them cheaper or using lower cost imported parts and the end product suffers, the quality reputation is lost. It probably effected Britain in the sixties and seventies and perhaps Germany in the eighties and nineties but Germany had low cost manufacturing countries on its doorstep and moved much production to the ex-iron curtain countries. They've managed to maintain a quality reputation through clever marketing for those susceptible to marketing but for others who rely more on evidence their reputation has deteriorated.

Look here chaps, can we not agree to disagree and in the meantime last one to run to ALDI and grab one of these babies is a monkeys uncle or nuts cos you didn't grab one earlier?

"Too expensive to make" no - just cheaper to make in third world countries - while somehow causing not ONE job loss amongst the directors making the decision
Tell Sheffield this tripe viewpoint. Derelict factories galore that used to make tools. And WEREN'T losing money. Just weren't......making as much profit if made in Far East.
France still have their shipyards and car factories. As do most European countries.
Why ? Because the governments weren't using PUBLIC money to close them and take them to China. UNLIKE here

​how expensive is a turd sandwich?

VERY ? Bonfire of the Tumble DryersBBC's input

TVs dropping dramatically in price, and sellers of likes of LG and Sony trying to keep price as high as they can - but due to plummet Black Friday when I'll probably buy

A third of our lives ? 8 hours a day on the bog ?
How long does a pee last for you ? An hour ?

Toilet or most of what's on TV, very little difference.

You may have some good points about piracy and PC use to fulfil its resolution, however that does not stop the tv being a lemon.

How bad will the lag be? How decent is the video logic processing board and subsequent picture setting enhancements? The quality of its internal power supply? (If anything like Vestel that use cheap capacitors not too brilliant if built to a cost of even £299) No doubt the screen is going to be LED edge lit at this price point leading to clouding, doubtful of HDCP 2.2 compatibility and no HDR, on top of this even with a cheap panel at 4K resolution even without any of the quality enhancements others afford how many are going to sit the required 4 feet away from it to reap the benefits.

I can appreciate at least you have thought about using it at its native resolution, the main problem will be with the usual technophobes rushing in to buy this without any thought of exactly where they are going to get their 4K content from, and at what cost, and buying it because they see it as the latest in tech.

I assume he worked out how to put the mount on the right way up before the PS4 testing. (The brand name is also upside down.) Still pretty poor if it really comes like that out of the box.

You are mistaken as many German companies have moved production to China e.g. Bosch.

For the money you're saving on the TV you could buy a ChromeCast.

We all like cheap goods and to be honest we weren't prepared to pay prices for made in Europe goods. Britain still makes a lot of cars but the majority are Japanese brands. France does a lot of subsidies for its industries. It's difficult to manufacture in the UK. We have some factories assembling Chinese parts to make televisions. Now that sterling has dropped in value it will help exports but if the main components are Chinese it won't help much. Probably more beneficial for basic goods like food and drink and raw materials where the product is pretty much 100% produced in the UK. Still probably a small benefit for high end hifi and cars though where assembly costs are significant.

We aren't very patriotic. One thing that annoys me is governments just up their borrowing when tax receipts etc reduce. People need to see that when manufacturing is lost etc there is a reduction in wealth for the country as a whole and we become poorer, our quality of life should reduce but instead we just build up more debt for future generations to pay for us. Getting on £30k of debt per head now with £47 billion a year needed just to service the interest on the debt owed without actually eroding the debt itself. Pretty much the same situation across much of Europe too, at least the larger countries of Europe. It's a ridiculous situation. As a priority we do need to create a surplus in the UK's bank account and start paying off the debt even if our lifestyle quality takes a massive hit.

http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/unitedkingdom

Can someone tell me if this new store is where the old pub used to be? Just off Wolverhampton Road? Thanks

No it ISN'T "difficult to manufacture in the UK" many manage it as it is.
The main problem was when Thatcher's Tories made it easier than anywhere else in Europe for companies to close down factories to move elsewhere. Examples were Corning (Pyrex) who closed down a factory in Sunderland because it was cheaper to do so than the one in France - no jobs have replaced them. Sony did the same due to the exorbitant cost of choosing to close the French one. This bull**** about cost of manufacture compared to other European countries is just 100% misinformation from the media
That said, the local councils, overflowing with overpaid "managers" are the biggest block to new businesses setting up. But the same corrupt Politically Correct leeches infest other European countries not much less than UK

Yes they have.
But where are the closed Bosch, Siemens, etc etc factories.?
Because there aren't any.
It's called EXPANSION.
In GB. They just closed the factories and moved production to China.

​With lipsync issues that can't be fixed, a remote that doesn't work, apps that aren't in English or don't work? It's complete sh1t.

​I've given up telling people on here NOT to buy a 4K TV unless it carries the Ultra HD Premium branding - I typically get given stick for doing so. I'm so pleased that people here are wasting their cash on duff 4K sets. I can sit back and gloat "I told you so" when they start moaning :stuck_out_tongue:

​ :laughing: oh boy, biggest laugh today!

Yep
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-news/2016/07/01/new-dudley-aldi-supermarket-taking-shape-at-former-king-arthur-pub-site/

had ours almost a year superb especially on the recent wild west BBC documentaries, the remote is worth 5 stars too!

I WOULD BUY AGAIN.

They're clearly not the same makers of the earlier 40 inch ones then, as that remote isn't too good
The sound on the 40 inch is an absolute ****** disgrace. Hope this one is better. It couldn't be as bad never mind worse. Curiously the 32" which I also bought later from Aldi IS OK

I agree sound could be better, i noted after purchase the default setting is really naff, and it did get slightly better with tweaking, the USB socket plays all my downloaded films, i leave a short USB permanently attached as i wall mounter ours, I feed it signals via sky, an MSQ Kodi box, an Amazon Fire box, HD pictures via sky is/are very good especially as previously mentioned BBC documentaries...but agree standard pictures could be better.

I bought this TV at £299 to replace a panasonic plasma that cost the same price. The SD and HD picture on the panasonic was better even though it was only 720p I liked the warm tones on the panasonic. This has harsh white highlights and most peoples skin looks like they are wearing heavy false tan make up. Also the interface is very clunky taking 3 clicks of the remote were one would suffice. On menu screens it is noticeable that the lighting is uneven and patchy.

There are good points apart from the bargain price.
4 HDMI inputs. If i remember right 1 x 1.3 2 x 1.4 1 x 2.0, thats 2 that can handle 4k at 30fps and 1 that can do it at 60fps. I haven't tried a 4K source yet.
Consoles look great. Better than the panasonic. There is probably more lag but I haven't noticed.
Iplayer looks very good without the bad skin tones problem and the harsh white highlights barely there.
Youtube looks stunningly good.
Other streaming sites and internet looks good.
I haven't tried Netflix or DVD's or bluerays but I presume they will look good as well.
The Tv records to USB and playbacks films and other media. It is not possible to record 1 channel while watching another. The USB also can be used to pause live TV. Everything via the USB is hit and miss sometimes it works often it stutters, sometimes so badly it is unwatchable.
I'm hoping when i get a 4K source the picture will be fantastic.

So in brief if you mostly watch broadcast TV and want a TV that will record and pause that I would not recommend this. If you mostly watch streamed or have a 4K source then I would recommend. Obviously if you spend £500-£1000 you will get a much better TV.

A PC that outputs UHD costs much more than the TV and the UHD blue ray player combined. My friend bought a laptop a couple of months ago that outputs 4K and it cost £1.5K and that hasn't even got a 4K screen. I've got a £20 box from china that supposedly outputs 4K but I can't get it to play anything except live German TV and short porn clips not 4K.

Wear shoes in bed or watch tv on the toilet. Never combine bed and toilet though

What happened to Grundig?

Part of Beko the Turkish company now. I think they use it for their AV electronics. Again Chinese parts assembled in Turkey or just Chinese for smaller products.

They have started queuing for it already......

Similar queues inside sometimes at the tills because they often only keep one till manned.

YAWN

I'll take that as a white flag

Heard the Vestel Turks had bought the name.
Its common these days. AEG was bought by the people who made Electrolux - and you don't hear that name anymore - everything's AEG and they're no longer German
I note Grundig's used and my guess is it'll start reappearing on electrical goods.
I wonder what happened to BASF - used to be my favourite tapes

That BASF sounds like a fish

Does indeed but it's abbreviations for very long German words.
And they USED to make superb cassettes particularly the 120 ones. Better than TDK - who were also top of the line but seem to be disappearing like BASF due to getting the tapes and discs made in China and the like. Most of the expensive top of the line stuff is still made in Germany

As much as I want to take advantages of these super-cheap TVs I just can't bring myself to do it. I want to save money but I'm far too **** about things like colour bleeding, input lag, ghosting etc etc. This TV may well be free of all of these things, but I'm unlikely to find many, if any reviews, that will confirm it for me. The TV market is just saturated by millions of different TV models so it's very difficult to buy one with confidence unless you go Sony, Samsung etc.

Dansax, why go to M&S to do your weekly shopping when you could go to Tesco or ALDI - all cheaper? Sometimes there really is something out there that's so cheep in comparison it biases psychological thought "there must be something wrong with it if it's so cheap" - but the truth is- for the money you're paying there is nothing out there that's any better. It's actually comparable to some tellies more than twice the price. Even if you bought an expensive £3000 Samsung (I got a 65 incher for £899 on here a few months ago), there's always a more expensive one e.g. OLED one round the corner. This would perfect as a second telly for anyone !

How's your German? I can Bratwurst!!

Not great, although it has many links to english, still indecipherable !
Think I know the odd phrase like "Can you speak slower please ?" and get by in a shop - pretty much dismal.
Though why you need German to use German products is a mystery ! :smiley::stuck_out_tongue:

I think you can see the problem though. My current TV is a 49" Sony 1080p. It's not the greatest panel in the universe and it suffers from DSE (dirty screen effect) quite badly in some scenes. However when I bought it I knew about the issues it had. I also knew about the issues it didn't have.

My point is I based my purchase on a combination of professional reviews and HUNDREDS of amateur ones. On the other hand buying something like this I'd be basing my purchase on a handful of amateur reviews on random forums. Cheap TVs are a bit of a lottery.

Also while I shop at both Aldi and M&S, the food in M&S is just better. Probably not the best example.

Agree to an extent, but it's not always the case. M&S aren't always the best quality food (a lot of the time they ARE tho) but always amongst the highest priced

I'd be interested to know more about your Sony 49" - it was the TV I'd marked down to get - first got to decorate though - and interested as to how good its Android as opposed to dedicated box is. Personally I'd prefer a LG or a HiSense but wife wants the Sony with Android.
The Bauhn TVs (I have a 40" in back room and the 32" with DVD in the bedroom) are OK. The HD picture is fine, others not great but passable. The 32" is actually a better picture I think,dunno what the 48 will be like, different maker I gather.The 48 is a Vestel apparently and the 40 Chinese, and haven't a clue about the 32

Even with the Ultra HD premium branding there is no guarantee it is what it says LG's Super UHD is a prime example everything would indicate you are getting a 10 bit setup until you delve a bit deeper and find out it's still 8bit.

OK so which one do you suggest ?
You seem to have ruled out most of the makers !

Not at all the big 4 do indeed make Super UHD sets that can actually make use of HDR the problem is misleading marketing and arbitrary regulations rather than mandatory.

would have liked one of the battery charger as seen on leaflet, but now down here. must be a local promotion.

Looks so too.

And the comment's on that one there some 11+ months back, ALMOST 'mirror' that of some of the comment's for this one here too! (some ALMOST 1 year on also!), AND it cost some £100 MORE at that time too?, so ..... :-(

Kinda makes you wonder a bit about this today's one also I guess (be that good, and/or bad?), huh?, hehehehe.

Might be a different make rebadged. That happens. NOT same TV just same "deal" with same name on TV

​In that case LG are being very naughty.