I missed the Amazon surge protected 10 gang extension deal so went hunting for one. Found a similar one on CPC for 8 quid so played around with the last two digits of the product number and got it for this price. I ordered two but you will need to add something for 5p if you order one and want free delivery - try adding this http://cpc.farnell.com/multicomp/uf4007/diode-fast-1a-1000v/dp/SC11382
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PaulTheo to Sf2rox
7 Oct 1613#6
It has a 13A fused plug so the total load on your wiring is still only 13A!
haritori
7 Oct 163#42
thats an American story about a product recall and about a fault during production, its got nothing to do with it failing to protect a surge, it isn't up to UK electrical standards
these are CE-/FCC-/RoHS-Certified for safety. have flame retardant housing,100% copper wire and overload protection,
they also have 50 nanosecond overload protection which covers direct to your house wiring lightning strikes.
so unless you can link me to one story of a UK surge protector failing and causing damage then its just hearsay.
Also read that full story, those surge protectors were produced in 1993 and the house fire was in 2011, that surge protector was almost 20 years old, and it doesn't say what it was plugged into, could of been used to power the utility room, with Washing Machines, Tumble Dryers, Irons, Heaters etc..
shadey12
7 Oct 163#13
look at the sticker on your TV it will tell you how many watts it uses, my 32" uses 42watts my 21" uses27 watts, this extension takes roughly 3000 watts. so ten of my TVs would only use 420 watts. however if you plugged a kettle, 2200watts and fan heater, 2000watts the fuse would blow.
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AJ92
7 Oct 16#1
I bought 1 of these a few months back and so far so good.
WillieGophar to AJ92
7 Oct 16#15
I too have this exact item, bought from CPC over a year ago.
All 10 sockets are in use (admittedly low(ish) power items - PC, monitors, work laptop, router, printer, external USB drives, ...) and, so far, it's working perfectly.
I paid nearly twice as much as this current deal, so this is excellent value.
haritori
7 Oct 161#2
Thanks OP, back of my AV unit is right state so bought 2 to sort it all out.
JPS
7 Oct 161#3
Ordered, thanks.
Sf2rox
7 Oct 161#4
10 sockets... into 1?
Better hope your wiring is upto scratch!
regcar to Sf2rox
7 Oct 162#5
I always worry about this point, but if all items are very low usage. eg. router, powered hub, printer, 2 monitors and computer, surely that is not a massive total. Far less than a Hoover or something that that ???
Interested to hear your reply. I am not an electrician
PaulTheo to Sf2rox
7 Oct 1613#6
It has a 13A fused plug so the total load on your wiring is still only 13A!
splender to Sf2rox
7 Oct 161#23
Better know how to add simple sums in amps. There is a big difference between 10 electric irons and radiators and 10 PC and tablet transformers.
regcar
7 Oct 16#7
In simple terms does it mean that it is OK to use these, and if they are overloaded the 13A fuse should blow?
thankshotdeals
7 Oct 16#8
Paul does that mean you couldnt run 3 big appliances off it eg TV Computer and sky box(i knew i should have paid more attention to physics at school )
chimp14uk
7 Oct 161#9
I don't trust CPC at all.
Bought 20 solar lights for the garden less than a year back and only 2 are still working.
JohnnyUtah to chimp14uk
8 Oct 16#60
Not much sun lately.
harish to chimp14uk
8 Oct 16#63
In CPC's defence the cheap £3 solar lights are pretty sucky from everywhere
gother
7 Oct 161#10
I have one of these i run a tv, pc,ps4,youview,skybox,router,android rv box and a roku of it with no problem at all.
Only problem i get is when the wires get tangled up but thats my own fault for having so many devices lol.
orig
7 Oct 16#11
got 3 last month and they're excellent, fast delivery as well, never used cpc before but always ordering from them now.
shadey12
7 Oct 161#12
as already said by paultheo if you put too many powerful appliance's in it the fuse in the plug will blow, as a rough guide things which produce a lot of heat use a lot of power, eg dryer, kettle, toaster, heater, microwave,
shadey12
7 Oct 163#13
look at the sticker on your TV it will tell you how many watts it uses, my 32" uses 42watts my 21" uses27 watts, this extension takes roughly 3000 watts. so ten of my TVs would only use 420 watts. however if you plugged a kettle, 2200watts and fan heater, 2000watts the fuse would blow.
gsj87
7 Oct 16#14
Got a few of these for the house a few months ago, decent quality for the price and they're still going strong.
Sf2rox
7 Oct 16#16
"Hopefully" the fuse would blow if you overloaded it.
Unfortunately i have seen for myself what cheap multiplugs can do... and rewiring your house won't be cheap. Not to mention fire hazards (genuine concern) and just generally frying your appliances.
As people have mentioned if you are thinking of buying one of these then be aware of what you are plugging into it. Me personally I will not use any multiplug that doesn't offer at least enough insurance to rebuild your and your neighbours' houses should something catastrophic happen, abit much i know but then again i have alot of expensive computer\AV gear and have had all my mains upgraded to cope.
I don't mean to scaremonger, i'm not a sparky, bit an I.T guy so when i see people daisychaining these things together it makes me wanna cry.
Be smart is all i'm saying.
Its abit basic but heres a link to socket calculator for anyone interested, its by no means definitive (you should be checking for yourself) but might help someone unsure if this is upto the job they require it for:
Based on that, I'll give it a miss. Don't wanna risk it for a tenner
Common Sense
7 Oct 16#17
Are there any with individual switches?
kiish to Common Sense
7 Oct 16#18
Not anywhere close to this price.
FoxForce5
7 Oct 16#19
I currently (no pun intended) have an older & quite powerful av receiver, a subwoofer, ps4, wiiu, gaming pc, htpc, tv, telephone, harmony charger & sky/cable box plugged into one extension (not daisy chained), it's never blown the fuse.
Grabbed this one cos it was meant to be a stop gap for a surge protected one & this thread reminded me I'd never gotten round to swapping it out. Have to clear some time in my schedule to swap it all out, & replace a few older cat5 cables that the little clippy bit has broken on at the same time. Got my ps4 running wirelessly at the moment & despite it being a foot from the bloody expensive router it's way more unreliable than wired!
Untangling these wires is not gonna be fun!
JaneEB to FoxForce5
8 Oct 16#59
It might be worth trying it a bit further from the router, it could actually be interfering with it.
slayermatt
7 Oct 16#21
How heavy is this? I'm looking for something i can wall mount with sticky backed Velcro ideally given the lack of space i have
plewis00 to slayermatt
7 Oct 16#22
It's not heavy but it has 5 plugs per side - the 5 plugs or more may be enough to pull it off depending on the velcro you use.
Sqsq
7 Oct 161#24
"Please note that orders under £5 ex VAT will incur a small order handling charge of £2.50 ex VAT. "
Order Total
Goods Subtotal: £4.95
Basic Delivery: £0.00
Handling Charge: £2.50
VAT: £1.49
Total: £8.94
And that's how you lose a sale CPC...
Update: I missed OP mentioned to add 5p resistor to order. [leaves quietly]
hcc27
7 Oct 161#25
You're absolutely spot on. The total power draw is what matters here. I've got a similar extension near my AV cabinet with 9 devices plugged into it including a widescreen TV, AV receiver, various Android boxes, 2 games consoles etc and even if everything were switched on at the same time - next to impossible really - the total draw would be under 1000W. At any given time, the total draw is closer to 200-300W, realistically speaking.
On the other hand, if you have an electric oven, electric hob, hair dryer, vacuum, microwave, electric radiator etc all plugged into this and a few of these devices switched on at the same time, well..........
jeczap
7 Oct 16#26
You're right - this should be expired (NOT edited, as the heat given was for £5.94)
I stand corrected, didn't see OPs blurb about adding a resistor
sparkzilla
7 Oct 162#27
I did this from a smartphone, im sure people can let me off 5p
Everyone needs to stop worrying, if your using thus on a AV setup you will no where near reach max capacity even if you get a new PS4 Pro :smile:
but seriously, the surge protection will be to recommended UK standards and thats all that matters, now if someone wants to show me a news story of a house being set on fire because of a surge protector failing?
Sqsq
7 Oct 161#30
...and I have no excuse :wink:
scowie
7 Oct 16#31
Your link in the description has a bracket at the end so isn't working — you might wanna fix that
yeah thats my main worry, is the stand very wide? I'm moving some things around so if its compact I might be able to just leave it in that?
sparkzilla
7 Oct 16#36
The Stand is optional, the main extension bit is just a thin rectangle of plug sockets that sits in the stand, but you dont have / need to use the stand
paddy.stone
7 Oct 16#37
You shouldn't daisy chain multi-gangs anyway... but if you say ran a 1gang extension from one of the multi-gang it wouldn't be a big deal as long as it's not high wattage. For example, I run a 1 gang 5 metre extension to near my bedside for using my USB charger, which is upto 3 Amps @5v/9v I believe, depending on what's plugged into it.
On one of these, I have a computer (app 150W full load)/monitor (45)/SATA dock (6-:sunglasses:/server (250w/350 full)/5.25bay Blu-ray caddy(40w?)/printer (<1/60w working ?)... most of the time it's only the PC actually running, and sometimes the server and docking station. Not gonna put too much load on at all.
IMO these are for people that have a lot of smaller items to use at the same time, but even if you have a 4k TV/blu-ray player/router/NAS/PS4/AV system all running at the same time it wouldn't be a problem, I have that exact setup on another multi-gang and have been running it for years without problems... AFAIK it's peak load you have to think about.
Anyway, these are great value and come in the mail quickly.. only thing I don't like about them is the directionality of the plugs as both sides face the same direction which makes it awkward for leads IMO.
slayermatt
7 Oct 16#38
Yeah I understand that, just think it looks neater in the stand than without it if the velcro idea is a no go :stuck_out_tongue:
because I always leave a hoover plugged in and running 24 hours a day :smiley:
DatAlbino
7 Oct 16#41
Bought 2, hella handy
Just to ask, would one be ok for an Xbox S, my PC, monitor and a controller charger?
They seem pretty low usage compared to heaters, washing machines, kettles, etc... just wanted to check
Ty OP
haritori
7 Oct 163#42
thats an American story about a product recall and about a fault during production, its got nothing to do with it failing to protect a surge, it isn't up to UK electrical standards
these are CE-/FCC-/RoHS-Certified for safety. have flame retardant housing,100% copper wire and overload protection,
they also have 50 nanosecond overload protection which covers direct to your house wiring lightning strikes.
so unless you can link me to one story of a UK surge protector failing and causing damage then its just hearsay.
Also read that full story, those surge protectors were produced in 1993 and the house fire was in 2011, that surge protector was almost 20 years old, and it doesn't say what it was plugged into, could of been used to power the utility room, with Washing Machines, Tumble Dryers, Irons, Heaters etc..
We have sold out of this now, please could we expire this .
Thanks :smiley:
avalon50
7 Oct 16#49
I bought oneof these last year andnow have it at the back of my TV with all my AV equipment plugged into it. That is TV, TV box, FreeView box, Amplifier, sub woofer, Virgin box and CD player. Not all of the equipment is switched on all of the time, and I've had no problems like blown fuses or fires.
Sf2rox
7 Oct 162#50
I can't attest to seeing this happen myself but theoretically its obviously possible, and, someone may correct me here, but theres absolutely no way to 100% protect against lightning. I own various UPS'es that make such claims (with caveats) but logic dictates that if the bolt has travelled so far as to hit your house directly (or closeby) then theres more than enough energy there to jump the small gaps it would need to in order to blow your equiptment. Even if you had something that could take out 99.99% of the sting the 0.01% would still be enough to kill your gear. AFAIK the only effective way of avoiding this is to unplug?
Again i'm no sparky but it seems to make sense to me.
This was quite a big problem a few years ago when we were all using PSTN based modems, even when the line was going through surge protection, it would take out the DEM, leaving the MO intact.
Anyway as interesting as this convo could get its now offically the weekend so the only question i want answering is "Who's round is it?" :smiley:
R4m13
7 Oct 16#51
Ordered 2! Thanks OP
tonibell
7 Oct 16#52
Ordered. Thanks and remember to put the resister in. lol
intuder
7 Oct 16#53
My order just got cancelled :disappointed:
Hello
Thank you for your order. Apologies but the item you have ordered is no longer stocked. We will cancel this order for you. Apologies for any inconvenience caused.
If my memory of old school physics serves me correctly, then P = V x I, which is P = 240V x 13A, P = 3120W maximum can be plugged in.
However the voltage can fluctuate up and down to square root of 2 , so best to make the total appliances plugged in wattage is less than 3120 W.
Also don't use cheap plugs with tiny screws that get hot , use MK plugs.
The usefulness of the Ops deal is you can plug up to 10 appliances in without having to physically unplug and plug in all the time , you are not supposed to have all the units on !
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these are CE-/FCC-/RoHS-Certified for safety. have flame retardant housing,100% copper wire and overload protection,
they also have 50 nanosecond overload protection which covers direct to your house wiring lightning strikes.
so unless you can link me to one story of a UK surge protector failing and causing damage then its just hearsay.
Also read that full story, those surge protectors were produced in 1993 and the house fire was in 2011, that surge protector was almost 20 years old, and it doesn't say what it was plugged into, could of been used to power the utility room, with Washing Machines, Tumble Dryers, Irons, Heaters etc..
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All 10 sockets are in use (admittedly low(ish) power items - PC, monitors, work laptop, router, printer, external USB drives, ...) and, so far, it's working perfectly.
I paid nearly twice as much as this current deal, so this is excellent value.
Better hope your wiring is upto scratch!
Interested to hear your reply. I am not an electrician
Bought 20 solar lights for the garden less than a year back and only 2 are still working.
Only problem i get is when the wires get tangled up but thats my own fault for having so many devices lol.
Unfortunately i have seen for myself what cheap multiplugs can do... and rewiring your house won't be cheap. Not to mention fire hazards (genuine concern) and just generally frying your appliances.
As people have mentioned if you are thinking of buying one of these then be aware of what you are plugging into it. Me personally I will not use any multiplug that doesn't offer at least enough insurance to rebuild your and your neighbours' houses should something catastrophic happen, abit much i know but then again i have alot of expensive computer\AV gear and have had all my mains upgraded to cope.
I don't mean to scaremonger, i'm not a sparky, bit an I.T guy so when i see people daisychaining these things together it makes me wanna cry.
Be smart is all i'm saying.
Its abit basic but heres a link to socket calculator for anyone interested, its by no means definitive (you should be checking for yourself) but might help someone unsure if this is upto the job they require it for:
http://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/guides-and-advice/electrical-items/overloading-sockets/
Grabbed this one cos it was meant to be a stop gap for a surge protected one & this thread reminded me I'd never gotten round to swapping it out. Have to clear some time in my schedule to swap it all out, & replace a few older cat5 cables that the little clippy bit has broken on at the same time. Got my ps4 running wirelessly at the moment & despite it being a foot from the bloody expensive router it's way more unreliable than wired!
Untangling these wires is not gonna be fun!
Order Total
Goods Subtotal: £4.95
Basic Delivery: £0.00
Handling Charge: £2.50
VAT: £1.49
Total: £8.94
And that's how you lose a sale CPC...
Update: I missed OP mentioned to add 5p resistor to order. [leaves quietly]
On the other hand, if you have an electric oven, electric hob, hair dryer, vacuum, microwave, electric radiator etc all plugged into this and a few of these devices switched on at the same time, well..........
I stand corrected, didn't see OPs blurb about adding a resistor
http://cpc.farnell.com/multicomp/uf4007/diode-fast-1a-1000v/dp/SC11382
heated
but seriously, the surge protection will be to recommended UK standards and thats all that matters, now if someone wants to show me a news story of a house being set on fire because of a surge protector failing?
This?
http://www.cnbc.com/2013/10/08/recall-surge-protectors-could-cause-fire.html
http://cpc.farnell.com/everbuild/s2gel3/all-purpose-superglue-3g/dp/SA02072/
On one of these, I have a computer (app 150W full load)/monitor (45)/SATA dock (6-:sunglasses:/server (250w/350 full)/5.25bay Blu-ray caddy(40w?)/printer (<1/60w working ?)... most of the time it's only the PC actually running, and sometimes the server and docking station. Not gonna put too much load on at all.
IMO these are for people that have a lot of smaller items to use at the same time, but even if you have a 4k TV/blu-ray player/router/NAS/PS4/AV system all running at the same time it wouldn't be a problem, I have that exact setup on another multi-gang and have been running it for years without problems... AFAIK it's peak load you have to think about.
Anyway, these are great value and come in the mail quickly.. only thing I don't like about them is the directionality of the plugs as both sides face the same direction which makes it awkward for leads IMO.
Just to ask, would one be ok for an Xbox S, my PC, monitor and a controller charger?
They seem pretty low usage compared to heaters, washing machines, kettles, etc... just wanted to check
Ty OP
these are CE-/FCC-/RoHS-Certified for safety. have flame retardant housing,100% copper wire and overload protection,
they also have 50 nanosecond overload protection which covers direct to your house wiring lightning strikes.
so unless you can link me to one story of a UK surge protector failing and causing damage then its just hearsay.
Also read that full story, those surge protectors were produced in 1993 and the house fire was in 2011, that surge protector was almost 20 years old, and it doesn't say what it was plugged into, could of been used to power the utility room, with Washing Machines, Tumble Dryers, Irons, Heaters etc..
Basic Delivery: £0.00
Handling Charge: £2.50
VAT: £1.49
Total: £8.94
How could you get it for £6.00
We have sold out of this now, please could we expire this .
Thanks :smiley:
Again i'm no sparky but it seems to make sense to me.
This was quite a big problem a few years ago when we were all using PSTN based modems, even when the line was going through surge protection, it would take out the DEM, leaving the MO intact.
Anyway as interesting as this convo could get its now offically the weekend so the only question i want answering is "Who's round is it?" :smiley:
Hello
Thank you for your order. Apologies but the item you have ordered is no longer stocked. We will cancel this order for you. Apologies for any inconvenience caused.
Kind regards
Caron Nixon
[email protected]
Only if you have a Time Machine?, lol. :-)
White still available but cost more: http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-elec/2710surgeblk/extension-tower-10g-black/dp/PL1050202
http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-elec/2810n-2mb/extension-tower-10-gang-neon-black/dp/PL14983
http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-elec/2810n-2mb/extension-tower-10-gang-neon-black/dp/PL1498302
I think this one has no surge protection. The one posted here does.
Got mine today, the extension that is (and the diode!). Say's it's the 2810 model (rather than the 2710 in the title).
Edit: There are other cheap diodes though. There's another 5p one here (14 left) and if they run out there's a greater quantity of 6p ones here.
However the voltage can fluctuate up and down to square root of 2 , so best to make the total appliances plugged in wattage is less than 3120 W.
Also don't use cheap plugs with tiny screws that get hot , use MK plugs.
The usefulness of the Ops deal is you can plug up to 10 appliances in without having to physically unplug and plug in all the time , you are not supposed to have all the units on !