Nintendo have not had a solid launch library since the Super Nintendo

Mario Kart 8 is another good reason to keep a Wii U.

So you bought the console for Zelda before it was announced and in the meantime, you don't like Nintendo games. My question still stands: why buy the console in the first place?! Best thing would've been to wait until Zelda is released and decide then not years/months in advance when you don't like the one thing that's guaranteed to be on it - Nintendo games.

Have you tried Mario World, Pikmin, bayonetta, wonderful 101 etc?

​enough of your nonsense, mate. you're a Nintendo hater, full stop. now gtfo HUKD!

Gosh, people need to chill... Anyways, FYI sold out on Tesco Direct :disappointed:

I'm a big Nintendo fan. Under my TV is a Gamecube, Wii and a Wii U aswell as a PS4 and a high spec gaming PC. I play all of my Nintendo consoles with my son more than any of my other systems.

However, I now have literally zero interest in the Switch since their presentation. Only Zelda at launch (which is also relasing on the Wii U) and then only an updated MK8 (which I have most of on my Wii U) and then nothing but a promise of more games coming later.

I have no idea what they were thinking. If they had just released a solid games games with a couple of wireless Gamecube controllers and a bunch of Nintendo IPs then everyone would be rushing to buy it day 1.

Instead we get yet another console full of gimmicks that nobody wants or needs.

I will miss Nintendo consoles after the Switch finally brings them down but I look forward to playing Nintendo games on multiplatforms in the near future.

Cool story bro

I think the sales you are referring to are slightly dated. If you look at the unit sales over the past few years you will see that they are struggling. Smartphone gaming has almost killed off nintendo's mobile hardware. In much the same way as PlayStation has hammered its home consoles.

Anyway I look forward to seeing what the NX actually is, personally I would prefer it to be a success as competition is always good but the likelihood of that is slim as I mentioned and it is just my opinion that it would be better for gamers to have the option to play Nintendo games on quality hardware like the PlayStation instead of having to buy poor hardware to play a handful of AAA games.

Do they take payment immediately?Tempted to use the £25 off £150 and pre-order all of the winter games I want.

*EDIT* Noticed it in the small print, they take payment immediately.

Jumping from SD to HD was a big deal because of the quality difference but now it's all in high definition and people already have TVs in HD, phones in HD, tablets in HD, consoles in HD and so on. It's also like going from 4x3 AR to 16x9 AR, the standard AR format is 16x9 but shows and films which were originally intended to be in 4x3 AR should always be that way so that no cropping is applied or stretched.

I personally don't even mind black bars on the sides when watching 4x3 AR content though some people are very bothered by it and would rather watch it stretched or cropped.

Not sure what's worse, that you missed the point on two jokes in a row, or that you chose completely the wrong date for your claim.
Not gonna repeat on the third comment as I agree with bernardsfingers' post on each point.

You mean 150 million DS, 100 million Wii and 60 million 3DS consoles sold don't count, just focus on the Wii U. The Wii U sold badly quite obviously, but I'm sure if they spent a fraction of the amount that Sony and Microsoft did advertising the PS4 and Xbox1 then it might have sold slightly better - there has been virtually zero advertising for the Wii U since it was released.
From what Nintendo have spoken about their plans for mobile, it isn't to simply create mobile games but to generate awareness of their properties which they hope will somehow transfer into hardware and software sales - which is an approach which has been shown to have potential based on the increase in 3DS sales as a result of the success of Pokemon Go.
It all depends on their new console, it shouldn't really matter about their past record since their recent hardware includes the massively successful DS and Wii plus the 3DS which has hardly been a flop.
Anyone suggesting that Nintendo should compete on specs seems to think there is a room in the market for 3 similarly specced consoles with the majority of games being the equivalent across all 3. 2 consoles is already more than enough so Nintendo would be stupid to bother following that approach. There are a fair number of people who have a PS4 or Xbox One (or both) who are less than excited with games on these systems. Yet another hi-specced console won't really cut it. If Nintendo can manage to show off the new NX successfully along with some top notch 1st party games then they may get lucky or they may not. No one knows until they have shown what the NX actually is.

Yes some of it is my opinion but the sales figures don't lie. Other than the Wii, Nintendo console sales have been pretty dire for too long.
And before you turn around and say 'who cares about sales figures', take that question to Nintendo.

That goes on to another great point being discussed in the comments. The DS vs the competition. The DS has pretty much kept the company afloat over the last decade. Only recently the sales have started to dramatically fall and Nintendo realised recently that they can no longer compete with the like of iPhone and android for mobile gaming. So they've seen the light and agreed to start developing mobile games for those platforms.

If the next Nintendo console does flop, which given their past record is pretty likely, then what do u expect will happen? (Given that they are not making much money on the DS anymore either).

Well they have FLOP'd the hardest since early 2000 anyway so they may as well have had a go

People said the same about HD when it first came out. 4K and HDR will be the norm in a few years and if Nintendo don't cotton onto that now then they will be out of date with current tech once again. The original Wii wasn't even HD compatible FFS.

​No need to feed the troll? :wink:

I'll go with that on numbers but the 64 had some solid launch titles Mario, Star Wars, Turok and Pilot Wings. The last Nintendo console I got at launch.

Well I hope it turns out good looking,because so far I've been browsing many Zelda fans reactions and there is real concern and disappointment present.

BotW visuals have been a mixed-bag so far but they're looking better as Nintendo releases more footage of it. I'm sure they'll look great anyway.

Not really no,at least not from my side.the Windwaker and Ocarina are best in the series.and the cell shaded art style was amazing when they first showed it.it was graphically and technically amazing.
this one looks dated,low quality poor textures..sadly.

It was. PSP tried to deliver a home console experience on the go.

I think DS was a much more fun console than the PSP and had a massive and diverse library the PSP couldn't compete with... To be honest.

Yeah - agree - in southeast asia, the PSP and DS were generally sold on the basis that they had hundreds of games preloaded - I've heard many a parent ask a shopkeeper, "so, many games does that come with?" The answer would typically be, "how many do you want? Can load for you no problem." They'd then take out a huge folder listing out the games.

Both consoles had rampant piracy issues.

PSP was more powerful than the DS but because of the slow UMD disc drive and possibly piracy (everyone was using backups at the time).

Just maybe, if Sony switched from UMD to Memory Stick to store the games in for the physical copies it might've worked because even I couldn't stand how slow UMDs were.

This is the only generation in the history of home console gaming where hardware has been such a key focus (and source of stupid arguments). In portable console gaming, there has never been a case where more powerful hardware results in an insta-win. I recall the Vita was supposed to wipe the floor with the 3DS due to the vast difference in power? It's also not a given that hardware is now the sole basis for determining the market viability for a console just because it's happened this time. It's certainly an important factor but way too much emphasis has been placed on it.

The arguments for console power in this past couple of years have caused a lot of people to make very silly (and childish) proclamations from all sides of the gaming community, ranging from gamers to company executives. I know "it's just business" but still...

Let me sum up your post by saying... 'IMO'. The whole basis of your argument is your opinion... and I'm sure you've convinced yourself it's the only correct opinion going. Well done. You have a baseless opinion.

P.S. not sure where you were hoping they were going to plug in ruble packs (another Nintendo innovation) on the N64, but maybe they have the same universal interface where your opinions originate also.:smirk:

All you need to know about HDR is that you want it and you're prepared to pay big bucks for it.

Got it?

I'm fine with BotW but would've liked another TP game.


Most people to be honest, don't even care about 4K or know what HDR is to matter.

They simply refuse to compete in the same arms race to see who can FLOPS the hardest.

Well either that or they need to pull their finger out and release some hardware that is on par with the PS4. Plus it will need to have 4K and HDR support as well now.

I just have a bad feeling that they will again release a dud that has a handful of great games but isn't in keeping with the times.

I have nothing against Nintendo. In fact, I wish they would seriously compete with Sony and Microsoft rather than just turning up as 'also-rans' again.

And half the features on my iPhone were probably pioneered by Nokia, Motorola and Ericsson before the iPhone came around. What is your point?

Nintendo haven't made a great console since the N64 and even with that they made stupid decision such as no CD's, a huge controller and memory cards/rumble packs that plug into the controller.

There is no harm in admitting that they are a bit clueless when it comes to hardware. The original Wii was a nice idea for people that are into the gimmicky side of gaming but fortunately they couldn't milk it again with the Wii U.

Anyway they have already given in and started making mobile games for iOS so it's only a matter of time before they do the same for consoles hopefully.




Btw I don't consume or watch any of those things you listed there either, I guess that's what u do;)

Splatoon!

Not really. It has a better GPU than the PS360 and it's a GPGPU too. CPU wise, yes, but even the X1&PS4 have weaker CPUs than the PS360 gen.

It has certainly never claimed to be on par with the XB1 or PS4. It was designed to be comparable to the X360 and PS3 but at best it is probably slightly less powerful than an Xbox 360.

I find it amusing that this comment is tonally identical to some of the initial reaction for The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker

Appreciate you've owned a lot of Nintendo hardware but there has never been a single credible business reason with proper analysis to support the notion that this would be a successful exit strategy. Saying "Nintendo will make it work" is not a sound business justification.

Historically, there has also never been a single successful example of a hardware manufacturer and software developer succeeding by operating solely as a software developer. In fact, Sega is barely a developer these days - the bulk of their business is focused on games publishing.

This argument needs to go away until someone can put some reasonable projections together and to date, nobody has even come close to doing that.

Justified. :laughing:

who do you think you are calling me idiot you stupid fanboy? how many years you've been playing nintendo games anyway? Ive played and completed every single zelda game nes upwards,among many other nintendo franchises,and owned pretty much every system they ever made.and I have evey right to criticise them.
they deserve it because some of their later decisions were plain stupid.

​Point and case! Best lineup by Nintendo, N64.

It was a tech demo. Nintendo has used their IP in E3 tech demos lots of times. It wasn't a game announcement or reveal. Instead of blaming Nintendo, perhaps you should consider it was in fact you who was a bit of an idiot for buying a console on the strength of a tech demo instead of announced games?

I'm just giving it to you straight; like a pear cider, that's made from 100% pears.

I mean, do you even know that Z:BotW won game of the show at E3 this year? Do you even care? LOL.

Yawn. Half of the features on your PS4 and Xone were pioneered by Nintendo... they've had some of the best selling and well made consoles in history - actually - THE MOST... but Nintendo should stop making hardware because they don't want to put out a vapid, insipid console the likes of which only the earthbound imagines of Sony and Microsoft can muster. Yeah, let's all settle for mediocrity: eat Pringles, drink Coca Cola, eat McDonalds and watch non-stop Transformers movies.

No thanks, I'd rather stop playing games altogether.

I know. Some of these comments are, well... bizarre. Wii U has its issues but plenty of 'QUALITY' gameplay experiences isn't one of them.

Hopefully the NX flops and we can finally start to see Nintendo games on 3rd party consoles. Let's be honest, Nintendo are much better at software than they are at hardware. (If you exclude portable hardware like the DS). Plus it'd be great to see Nintendo games running on the latest hardware rather than previous gen hardware as they have done with the two Wii's.

P.s. Before I start getting attacked by a bunch of fanboys. I'd like to clarify that I've owned every Nintendo console since the N64 (yes I missed the Super Nintendo hay days).

I've heard of 'buy now, pay 6 months later'
but 'buy now, pay 6 months earlier' is a new one on me :laughing::stuck_out_tongue:

I absolutely love my wii u. it is predominantly a family console with an abundance of family friendly games. we have some awesome mario games and Pikmin 3, zelda etc. can't see why it gets run down so much, it's always been by far the best family console around at moment. me and the kids have had many a good laugh playing super mario bros, chasing baby yoshis! :smile:

In April Nintendo themselves said in no uncertain terms that it was planned to come out for both platforms simultaneously. They could have changed their minds, but without any evidence it's just baseless speculation.
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/725224978984083456

Based on what, aside from guesswork? :wink:

It's coming out for the NX in March, Wii U version is coming out afterwards.

That Zelda footage was the reason I bought a Wii U too,and frankly I was Sooo disappointed when they showed BOTW..it was NOTHING like this footage.Im sure its a good game but I think we are all betrayed,at this point we deserve to have a Zelda game that looks like that.
anyway Ive sold my Wii U after just 6 months,I wanted to like it,but that gamepad really was AWFUL and FOOLISH.I hated playing with it.clearly they tried to take advantage of tablets popularity at the time and focusing of gimmick and they failed miserably.
I will wait to see what NX is,but if its really a mega gimmick device like latest rumors say it is ( a tablet with detachable side controllers which is just slightly more powerful than wii u) I will skip it.wont miss much with a zelda looking like that anyway.

Same here, £35 isn't really worth biting for until you know all the options.

Tell that to the 5:1 sales ratio...
I know that the internals are related but substance over form the Wii U is more Wii 1.5 than the Wii ever was just GC 1.5.
(And I don't even like saying that the Wii U is 'just an improved Wii', they're clearly all separate generations. So what if the timing is off from the competition.)

I just meant that's what happens with Nintendo's CE/LE releases, they don't come with UKV covers.

I saw that. Pathetic attempt really wasn't it, when you look at what Microsoft have had a go at doing with their limited editions.

Judging by past form there is no reason to suggest they will do any decent bundles at all. I guess I'm holding some vain hope that this time around, having been hammered on the sales figures, they will actually try and pull out all the stops this time around!

I can dream :smile:

​i can't find an image for the Special/Limited edition? you got a link (haha)?

Unless it's kept as quiet as the NX?

Nintendo did something similar with the Wii U -- Wind Waker HD but it was only included as a digital game and the console didn't even have any special console design, the GamePad did though.
The Wii U should've been released last console generation as the Wii was just a GameCube 1.5.

Thanks OP, ordered.

Not saying it needs to? Just waiting and seeing if they do any limited console or anything like that. Definite NX purchase anyway.

Nah, I can't see that happening - the game has no need whatsoever of being bundled to succeed.

I own a Wii U. Have done for years. I'm holding out that this game might be bundled with the NX.

​While it's apparently on par with the Xbox 1 n PS4, I'd say it's closer to the 360 n PS3.
Most 3rd party titles on the Wii U are available on the 360 n PS3, while a number of software houses have released titles for the Xbox 1 n PS4 that they said they couldn't do on the Wii U, Batman Arkham Knight n Dead Rising 3 to name but two.

​Each persons requirements are different of course, but to me a large launch line up doesn't matter. I'd rarely get time to play more than 3 or 4 in depth console games a year anyway. A launch with a Mario and Zelda title will take up half the year for me!

That much is pretty much a certainty here, on either platform.

That's also the month estimated that NX will be released. I don't mind if NX is whatever the rumours are saying it to be, just as long as I can have a home console experience.

The Breath of the Wild Amiibos are releasing on the 4th of March 2017, (the date leaked on Nintendo's own site) so expect it to be there or there abouts for the game and the NX.

It's a placeholder date - but March is currently looking more likely.

The downside of the Collector's Edition / Limited Edition it comes bundled with a multi-European cover than a UKV. It kinda annoys me to see green, purple, pink and yellow. I try to always minimise that for my collection.

​you don't even know what it is yet. it could be a handheld or a vr headset for all we know.

Waiting for a collectors edition! Whether it's WiiU or NX

I don't mind the NSMB games really. And they sell about double the 3D outings do, so It'll be there for launch. Maybe a 3D game in the launch window though.

The link wont work?? I have searched for it on the website but cant find it?? Antone able to help me out

I'm applying the same logic to this potential purchase as I am to any potential upgrade of either my xbone or ps4 to a newer model...

Waiting for the NX.

Will Amazon price match this one?

I'm fairly new to the console scene, can someone tell me what generation the wii u is from? Is it the ps2/Xbox days?

Fun, but yeah, agree on the lack of differentiation. Some small new ideas here and there but would love more.

I do like NSMB, but if you've played one you've played them all.

thanks

Launch title will be a power adapter

Would preorder but...NX.

If i can remember correctly, Miyamoto mentioned that they're working on a new 3d mario game...sadly it looks like we won't see the long awaited game to be next in line to the mario galaxy games...

They definitely need to have a Mario Kart at launch and a Mario 3D (enough of that emptiness that's called New Super Mario Bros.).

​ No, that's wrong, there was a demo easily a year (maybe 2) ago that was a Zelda game, same time an early beta of a Star Fox game was on show.

So the guy doesn't like Nintendo, I don't either.
I also hate Microsoft -not really a big deal to dislike the state of the console scene today.
Son doesn't have any Sony stuff so no opinion on what they're doing; I'm guessing reboots n FPS?

offs... how about you use your head, this has got to be trolling, yeah the name was mentioned this year but the game its self has been teased for bloody years.

This thread is a little bit toxic but I give it heat for what it is even though I echo the first poster in that I won't be ordering as I would rather gamble the £5 to find out if the NX version is better for me or not - now that they've delayed it to NX launch date, there's not really much to lose in seeing.

Waiting for NX version myself, but have some heat.

Same could be said for the XB/PS consoles where they have COD, Uncharted, God of War, Gears of War, Forza and quite a few more to be mentioned...

Breath of the wild was only mentioned a couple of months ago, so how is it possible you new about breath of the wild in 2014...

Some of the best games on any system imo...

Watch out, you have incurred the wrath of nintendorks. Get ready to dodge a bunch of supposedly grown men who thinks saying anything negative about nintendo is akin to insulting their own mother. (Probably because they were abandoned as kids by her bwaahahahaha).

is it seriously going to be released on the 7th nearly 8th month of next year? thats ridiculous! this game is the sole reason i got the wii u back in 2014 i think. i honestly dont think i will keep it much longer as smash bros can only entertain you for so long.

Pikmin 4
Zelda
Something Mario (probably a NSMB game as the sell the best)
Smash Bros port
Splatoon port/Spla2oon

For example, my Wii U is packed in its box right now otherwise all it'd get is collect dust. My Wii gets more use for having native GameCube support (basically a GameCube Slim).

I've been waiting so long for a new Zelda game that I'm willing to wait a bit more. But to be honest, it's not the exact Zelda game I wanted, the one I wanted specifically was this but I'll happily take BotW too. :smiley:

Maybe we'll get the Zelda tech-demo 2011 into a full game on NX.

Nintendo have not had a solid launch library since the Super Nintendo

I brought the console with the knowledge that breath of the wild would be coming out in 2015 like i have now said twice that was my reason for buying. looking to buy smash bros to keep me occupied in the mean time, what do you mean i don't like the one thing guaranteed to be on it, whats that referring to? i could hardly imagine the game wouldn't come out for over another 2 years.

So you bought the console for Zelda before it was announced and in the meantime, you don't like Nintendo games. My question still stands: why buy the console in the first place?! Best thing would've been to wait until Zelda is released and decide then not years/months in advance when you don't like the one thing that's guaranteed to be on it - Nintendo games.

You obviously don't like Nintendo games. Why buy the console in the first place?!
OBVIOUSLY? because i found the mario kart boring? no, i haven't found any games on the wii worth buying and you you read my comments i brought it for zelda... i didnt know the pick of games for the console were gonna be dire.

You obviously don't like Nintendo games. Why buy the console in the first place?!

I pre-ordered this last time it was £35 from Tesco :smiley: I no longer sell games, so... I'm running out of room lol... I also have a lot of films so that doesn't help :P Now I just need the time to play them haha

i had mario cart with the console but quickly got rid of it as i found it boring, as for zelda, its a lesson learned, never buy a console solely for one franchise. I may as well sell its while its still worth something and watch someone play zelda on youtube when it comes out.

as you say it all depends on the launch lineup, nintendo have said it will have a good launch lineup, but how many times have they said that and it turns out to be the opposite.

heat, but i dont know if i should just wait for the NX to come out and get it then