I'm waiting for the ps4 Propropropro

No Ultra HD Blu-Ray player :-( hoping to get a few 4K UHD discs to watch but not on this console (I was actually hold out for it!). "Well hello there Microsoft, it's in your new one you say?"

I'm waiting for the soon to be rumoured PS4 Pro Slim :smiley:

Yeah but if you go into Game you can trade in your old PS4 PLUS 5 games and get a PS4 Pro for £174.99 I mean, deals don't get much better than that now do they!!!! :smile: Hahahahahaha

I'm waiting for the soon to be rumoured PS4 Pro Slim :smiley:

Awesome had some tesco points, Total paid £300.00. sell my white ps4, will work out 150 for an upgrade to pro. Not bad.

Amazon: cancelled.
Tesco: ordered.

Thanks OP. Also getting the Pokemon New 3DS XL.

i'd be all over this if they didn't take money upfront, need to sell my original PS4 first though.

Just cancelled my order with them to reorder, not realising I now can't use the £44 clubcard points I had on the previous order...****

This is worth it I think for the extra hard drive space and more power even for 1080p gaming. Will be selling my previous white PS4 as well to fund this. Was hoping for some bundle deals but I suspect the slim will have bundles as it has just come out.

ordered. thanks op. I can't believe I ordered this since I got normal ps4 with the Sainsbury offer. I have to get rid of my white one now. :smile:

Just ordered then saw it doesn't support UHD Bluray poor form from Sony. Think i'll stick with my existing PS4 until the release of one that does. Thanks anyway.

Yeah but if you go into Game you can trade in your old PS4 PLUS 5 games and get a PS4 Pro for £174.99 I mean, deals don't get much better than that now do they!!!! :smile: Hahahahahaha

I personally don't think that is a bad deal especially for people who have had theirs a while.

Really?!?! £175 for a PS4 AND 5 games?!?! I'd be wanting to take in 5 copies of FIFA 14 (which I know wouldn't be allowed) to feel like I've got anywhere close to value for my console

Sadly nothing they can do because I cancelled it apparently, lesson learnt but really really irritatingly crap system they have there. I'm hoping they'll be turned into vouchers again in time before the release and that they'll be able to add the clubcard vouchers onto my order for me.

I'm sure some people will have old games. You are getting a new console with a new warranty etc. I'm sure it is not for everyone but I think it's reasonable.

My bank is blocking payment for god knows what reason.

Is PSVR still up for preorder on Tesco?

better to flog ps4 on ebay for £200 then u only pay £120 for ps4 pro with Tesco discount code as above

Does it have 4k advantage only?

Thanks OP! Heat added and ordered :smile:

And even if you only got £5 each for 5 games (most of which are generally worth more anyway) that's another £25 off. That's why it makes it such a poor deal from Game AGAIN!!!

When they tweeted about it I responded with "put it on HUKD and see what reaction you get" :smile:

HUKD have just responded with this.............absolutely brilliant :smile:

https://twitter.com/HotUKDeals/status/776437597166039040

Sell it for £200 and then the fees will be like £20ish from eBay. That's what happened to me when I sold a New 3DS Ambassador on eBay. Way too much.

So do Tesco take payment immediately ?

Done this and now also facing a nightmare with Hermes, wish I never used them. Seriously slow delayed service reaching the point where I may be out of pocket on the postage to the customer as they're getting annoyed at the delivery speed.

5 games? are they taking the ****. I dont think game will be around much longer the way they go about there buisness

I'll stick to the normal PS4 until I manage to get a 4K TV

What's the code allowed to be used on? Is it £25 for over an x amount spend? Where are terms and conditions?

Ebay. AKA "Buyers can **** you and there's nothing you can do about it"bay.

My only issue is the swapping of Hard Drives.
I have a 2TB in my current Ps4 and this will be going into the PS4 PRO, but there's no way I know of where I can just take it out of one and out it into the other without all the data being wiped.

Tempting £291 with staff discount

I bought the PS4 Uncharted 4 Limited Edition console for £320 I think, DOOM cost me £10 as part of the deal. Sold that game back to them. I knew the Pro was coming, doubt it's worth it for me to upgrade as I'd lose too much £$.

I agree. 5 old games like Killzone etc are essentially worthless to sell.

Lovely work OP. Ordered.

That'd be great if I wanted to just move my data from one HDD to another.
I want to swap the HDD altogether.

Taking it out of one console and popping it into another prompts you to install the software and redownload all content.

You could always ask Amazon to price match, they probably will when they see loads cancelling...

​very true, a few times I've sold hardware on eBay I've been ripped off, seems eBay side with the buyer every time. Best to sell locally on facebook or even take a lower amount from cex.

+1

Canceled Amazon and gone with Tesco. But they take money straight away if you didn't know.

My bank santander keep declining payment - I spoke to them and they think the order should go through but it still doesn't! Problem with tesco direct maybe?

​What a PITA. :disappointed:

That's why I would never use hermes for anything of value. Actually I wouldn't use hermes for anything full stop

No Ultra HD Blu-Ray player :-( hoping to get a few 4K UHD discs to watch but not on this console (I was actually hold out for it!). "Well hello there Microsoft, it's in your new one you say?"

But he is talking about taking out his existing hard drive out of his original PS4 which he has already upgraded to a 2TB and putting it into the new PS4 Pro without it wiping, no point in him just doing the transfer as he wants the bigger hard drive in his pro, unless he goes out and buys another 2TB hardrive to put into his pro and then transfer the data!!

Me too but looking at future uhd blu rays online not many coming out in next 6 months. Me waiting for scorpio and or standard uhd player.

Lloyds bank working just took my order and money.

Yeah, and it's not very good.

It has no bitstream audio and constantly freezes, goes in to slow mo during films and the app sometimes just stops working mid film.

Save your money and buy a real UHD blu ray player.

Tesco is woeful if you want to get things on the day they come out, they're usually several days late

what I'd like to know is how the XB1 S has a 4k blu-ray player but the ps4 pro hasn't but you can play 4k games on the pro but not the S? WTF is going on?

the code dont work

Ordered

​Sony are focusing on Streaming 4K content rather than playing it.

Just ordered from here and cancelled my Amazon pre order.

How are tesco with deliveries of items like this?

Why not check yourself?

Might be more enjoyable with a higher framerate but i doubt its worth any time or effort in doing a "patch"

Would be the first KZ to have a higher framerate than 30 tho :smile:

Hot Deal, any guesses in when a white version of this will come out?

I guess Microsoft subsidy in xbox one s is more as it has 4k uhd blue ray player built in for only £ 250. 4k uhd Blue ray player alone costs more than £ 250

Can this run games at 1440p or is it 4K, 1080p or bust?

So will a standard PS4 run the PSVR.

Yes, the PSVR comes out a month before this.

PS4 Pro outputs games upscaled to 4k, doesn't spin 4k discs


1440p upscaled to 4k, now whether your TV or the PS4P has the better upscaler is the big question.....

Tempted to go with this and a PSVR. £648 for a pre-order is a bit much when they take the money straight away though. Also wanting to see more reviews first.

​streaming of films is outstripping sales of blu rays.
sales of 4k blu rays will so much lower again. Sony are more interested in 4k streaming.
I think 4k blu rays sales will really struggle to get off the ground to be honest.

Are tesco good for getting preorders on release date?

doesn't*

no wait....

DOES*

Takes ages for Tesco to credit the points back too. I ordered Devil May Cry for 7.50, they then cancelled the order and said it was OOS then said they can't credit points back immediately and took forever.

Yup.

I went for the PSVR discounted

I don't have a 4k television as of yet. But I will land up buying this to have a more enhanced PS VR compatability.

​I agree and I've been like that. I was tempting to not buy the pro and wait for the Scorpio. But I am really into VR and that's the main reason I am getting this. However when the Scorpio arrives, that will be my main console and the generic games will be purchased on that.

when do they charge ?

What does this have that a standard PS4 doesn't?

​Yes but the PS VR will be much better frame rate and much more smoother. Read some forums saying there is quite a noticeable difference.

Ordered. Thanks OP.

​Snap. Until a decent 60"+ 4K OLED HDR set is available at a bargain price I'll stick with my 50" LG Plasma I got for £90 from a Tesco Direct misprice 2 years ago. Can't fault the image quality.

ps4 plus 5x2.5 quid - fifa 14

How does that work with ordering online?
Did you use £25 off code and then staff discount, I have an aunt who works for teso, wouldn't mind trying to figure it out to save £50-60

My current thinking is I'll either sell my standard PS4, then get this + the PS VR + Xbox One slim, or keep the standard PS4 and buy a Scorpio and whatever 3rd party VR headset works best with it. It could come down to whether there are system-exclusive VR games. Cool story eh bro :smiley:?

I was happy with my VT Series Panny plasma...thought the image quality was unbeatable. Then it broke...:disappointed: Unwillingly replaced it with a 4K Samsung LED and I'm over the moon with it. beats the quality of my old plasma hands down SD, HD and 4K image all brilliant (and I NEVER thought I'd say that)

Who's selling the old PS4 then and for how much?thanks as I'm looking for one.

good luck! they always release a slim version just before or together with the next model like they are now. When that time (ps4 pro slim) comes i guess you would change your mind to "I'm waiting for the soon to be rumored PS5 pro Slim" :stuck_out_tongue:

Do you mean OLED or LCD w/LED edge or backlighting? Or Quantum dot LED lighting?

I'm holding on this for today - give Amazon a chance to price match, otherwise I'm on it

Nice find. I was holding off pre-ordering to see what deals come about. I might have to bite at this!

*Edit*

I bit, preordered!
Erm what...

Expected delivery: Monday 14 November 2016

£234 with code, staff discount and clubcard vouchers. Very tempting...

Amazon won't price match a voucher deal

Kind of weird seeing people talk about expensive OLED HDR 4K 60" televisions when the only 4K gaming this console will do is going to be upscaled. If you're that fussy about image quality, why go for non-native resolutions?

I'm waiting for the pink edition

I haven'the checked ebay but if you can do this and trade in 5 copies of FIFA 14 for 1 p each isn't that OK? £175 for a second hand launch PS4? Seems OK to me. Not voting either way on this deal, it's cheaper than the RRP but Sony have gimped out on this thing big time.

Edge lit lcd.

You can't.......

The trade-in offer lets you pick up a 1TB PS4 Pro for £174.99 when trading in a 500GB PS4 plus five different PS4 games, excluding FIFA 14 and FIFA 15. It would usually set you back £349.99.

Might wait this out as I reckon there will be a Horizon bundle in Feb.

Hoping they do a VR bundle, but it seems unlikely...

I noticed the PS4 doesn't have the word Pro after it and this one does, so that's one difference I spotted straight away.

Why do we need to know this? This isn't Facebook.

I want an Oreo edition like this:

People saying about UHD Blurays not playing I honestly think most physical media is almost dead, streaming is the future.

No 4K Blu-ray player is a no buy for me, think I'll just wait for the new Xbox One S and just keep my current PS4. My PC has a 1080 in it which is 8 Tflops, so a 4Tflop PS4 Pro which upscales to 4K isn't exciting for me, I mean the Xbox One S will upscale to 4K. It's such a downer, I was looking forward to buying one... but oh well, I'll just play The Last Guardian on my PS4 and get the One S for 4K on my TV and have my PC for real gaming.

OMG HUN!!.....pm me

It is a GAMING console first and foremost! if you're picking a console because of the blurays it can play then you are doing it wrong..

That will be the PS5 at the end of the generation. :smile:
PS4 Pro is just a mid-gen PS4 upgrade simple as.

​same reason we didnt need to know this

​​Good price. Not many sizes left for the boots though. Ive been asked to get some fitflop boots for the wife too!

That's incredibly tempting, great deal. I'm definitely buying the PS4 Pro, should I go for this or wait for bundle deals to be announced? I'm upgrading from an Xbox 360 so don't have any PS games.

Heat added :smile:

Thanks OP. Just cancelled at GAME and ordered here :smiley:

Would be sweet to have a Pro and VR bundle. Kind of like the 'Gamers Pack' on PS4 launch that included a game, extra pad and camera.

Buying a 4K TV in 2020. It's too soon to buy that TV now

before you wreck yourself?

you do know that streaming 4k is compressed and in no way can compete with the bitrate of a 4k UHDdisc, also not to mention the audio on a bluray will in nearly all cases be far superior to streamed, compressed 4k?

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strange everyone talking 4k, Japan get 8k before the year is out

Ordered a few minutes ago and Quidco has tracked at £6.48 :smile:

Total cost less than £315 plus I got plenty of clubcard points I used.

Sony micro 3DO, this console generation has sucked for the most part, incremental game remasters, now incremental upscaling and 1080p fps on a incremental system.I'm off to steam on my PC

​Not really, better off waiting for the actual next generation ps, not the 'rushed out for the psvr' model

I'd doubt supersampling would be the preferred method of AA, as that's often as hard to run as native resolution.

Most likely 2-4x MSAA.

Otherwise it's just upscaled 1080p to 2160p games, and it shows. Blurriness galore.

its not sony's fault that blu ray discs dont sell well. most people accept that streaming and downloads are the future

It's not that simple. Sony uses what is known as checkerboard rendering for 4K which is not a linear upscale from 1080p to 4K using interpolation.

The source resolution for checkerboard 4K ranges from 1440p to around 1800p as of now with 1st party games looking sharper than 3rd party games at 4K i.e Rise of the Tomb Raider vs Horizon: Zero Dawn.

Some games will even render in native 4K such as The Last of Us. You just can't expect a £350 console with a 4.2TF GPU to compete with a 9TF PC GPU that costs over £550+ which also struggles with 4K so for now checkerboard 4K will suffice.

It will start with new games running fine on PS4 and better on PS4 pro. Then new games will run fine on PS4 pro and a little laggy on PS4. Then soon enough new games will be solely marketed at PS4 pro owners and playing them on PS4 will be comparable to playing them on a double cheeseburger.

Ha ha ha upscale to 4k, awesome at 1080p. I played bf2 in 1080p in the mid 2000s.

You guys should join the PC master race, only 600 quid for the latest card which will be replaced in 9 months. :-/

Because maybe it's not just me? ManiacBart said It was happening to him as well. Not happening on other sites.

Don't need your snide comments either.

​why post that here?? go post on HotJapanDeals :man:

In all honesty, I think it's a decent deal. Based on this deal you're getting £150 for your old PS4 and 5 rubbish games (excluding FIFA 14 & 15) without the hassle of going through eBay, no fees etc.

This console comes with a built in toaster

what's going on is.... both MS and Sony have decided to be douchbags and go down the apple way of running a business, frequent hardware releases with minor updates to the hardware.
As you know, if you want to play online you MUST be on the current firmware.. Next "surprise" will be the original xbox one is and ps4 will be dropped on later firmware releases, won't be for another 2 years at least I reckon, but you read it here first peeps!

The way I feel about this is that Sony want you to pay for something that should have been included with the original console. Like the 'solid 60fps' or true 1080p gaming. Effectively customers are paying twice. And yes I am a person with a 4K tv but may as well wait until the new Sony console comes out as this won't be true 4K gaming anyway. And Game with their offer..... (PS4 plus 5 games then Pro half price) are they joking ????

Ps4 pro does not have a 4k blu ray drive. I cancelled my ps4 pro order.

Without me checking I would think that there is no way they would authorise that. They will want games that they can sell for at least £20 each

Streaming is only good for those with great broadband. For many in rural areas or just one with rubbish broadband, physical disks will always be the usual way to watch.

Sony currently state that ALL games must run fine on the PS4 and have additional coding for the Pro. Can't imagine this will always be the case though

the thing is how many 4k blu ray disc were you going to buy? i see alot of people not happy about it but i think alot of these people wouldn't have even bought a 4k blu ray disc

I think it's a shame they didn't include UHD disk compatibility and it may well bite them in the future. The original boy ray ability is what put the PS3 on top to start with.

Yes if you want to play lots of UHD disks you'd be better off with a proper player though.

Much better to price match CEX, never do Game deals without checking CEX website first.

you're right - i'm pretty sure that both playstation and xbox will adopt this policy - even though they're saying previous owners will be fine - i'd imagine the difference will be even more pronounced when scorpio launches next year - even though games will technically be backwards compatible

although the whole announcement of the ps4 pro was a little underwhelming and the way it has been presented has been fairly poor, i do believe that the ps4 pro will bring about decent upgrades for those who use the console regularly and have a goodish tv (pref. 4k but i reckon a decent 1080p tv will still look better with the pro) - it would have been nice for playstation to be closer to the proposed scorpio spec. and have uhd - however the main positive of the release is the price which is pretty good for the spec. you're getting

it's all a little needlessly complicated but personally i'll be upgrading and selling my existing ps4 to my brother

incidentally second hand ps4s are/will be pretty dirt cheap on the run up to the pro launch - people quoting that they'll get £200 for selling their old ps4s will probably be a bit surprised with what they actually get (plus remember ebay 10% final value fee + extra paypal fees) - i predict people will be getting closer to £125-160 when selling their consoles on - for a hassle free sale i'd seriously be considering cex over ebay even if it is for a little less - at least you don't have to worry about someone complaining about the purchase down the line

True, but......discs....so 2000.
But like why vinyl died when compact discs appeared. Sure, vinyl was a better audio experience but majority of people without high end equipment didn't notice or care enough

​They will, just like currys will, because there's enough stupid or naive or rich people that will shop there.

Who wants to pay £25+ for one movie disc anyway.
UHD BR is way overpriced.

Are they........?? http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/kingsman-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-8-99-amazon-prime-10-98-non-prime-2455887:smirk:

Right now is NOT the right time to by a new TV. Especially when it comes to HDR, best wait till January when they announced new TV's which proper HDR.

Which Samsung LED did you get if you do not mind me asking? I am sceptical of buying a HDR LED set that is edge lit (as opposed to one that is OLED or has a full-array panel)

And how do you know this?

I paid with Barclays and it got declined. Shortly after I got a text from Barclays asking if it was legit. When I replied 'Y' they sent a text back asking to retry the transaction. Sure enough it went though.

55JU6400....
https://www.avforums.com/review/samsung-ue55ju6400-uhd-review.11288
Had it for around a year now
Not even a high end HDR model but picture quality is just lovely. Can only put it down to the quality of the scaling chipset
It's al too easy to get caught up in having the absolute best specs when looking for a TV, sometimes you just need to go into a store with a selection of good and bad source material on a USB stick and see which TV you like the look of the picture quality on.
I did actually buy a Sony X85 first..but the Android experience was just such a horrible crashy lag fest that i took it back...

also streaming in 4k is significantly inferior to full fat UHD 4K bluray in terms of picture quality.even with a good fibre connection due to compression. Its often on a par with / only a bit better than standard bluray. If you want proper UHD quality, you need a UHD drive.

Darn this mid-gen-upgrade!!
Do I want best gaming experience? YES!
Do I want to upgrade my Pany GT50 just yet? NO!
Will my Thrustmaster T150 work with Pro? NOT SURE!
Is it worth buying Pro just for best PSVR performance and keeping GT-50? DON'T THINK SO!
Shall I be sensible and run my current set up until I bite on an OLED once the frame rate issues are sorted and the price drops? SHOULD DO!...........
HDR, HDR, HDR = HARD DECISION..RESIST (x3)

Wow was looking for a deal on one of these. I have a 4K TV with HDR coming soon too, so this is going to be pretty amazing gaming experience.

I just got a Samsung ks9000 - I hope they update it for 'proper' HDR next year. No chance of Dolby vision update though.

I got a KS9000, to be fair my 2014 UE7200 smashes it away on SD/HD at the moment, haven't got any HDR content yet to test that out

I had the same, with Halifax though. Hope it's not some scam intercept.

I had an issue with nationwide, also replied Y and told to try again. Worked the second time. Odd that different banks/BSs were having the same issue!

Just as well .... cos it doesn't have a built in 4KBluray Player despite Sony owning the format !

There must be major issues with Tesco and card payments. My nan has problems everytime she uses her Opus card on the tesco website, 9 times out of 10 its declined and she has to phone them up. I ordered my Xbox One S the other week and the following day I got a phone call from Barclays saying there was an issue with my card and they gave me a new one. I had used the Tesco website three times in a month.

Better to wait until nearer the release time. I'm sure there'll be similar/better deals by then. Personally i'm waiting for a FFXV bundle. That's the game i'm getting a PS4 for (never bothered with the standard one).

Rubbish, Rise of the Tomb Raider in 'unlocked' mode generally runs around 45fps, a far cry from the 'solid' 60fps you're claiming, the CPU is too weaksauce and will prevent most titles from achieving a glorious 60.

You are good to go with the KS9000 because it has HDR 10bit, which is classified as "proper" HDR when cheaper TV's such as Hisense 4K HDR TV's are HDR 8bit. Which some call "HDR Ready"

This is why I am waiting till next year when all the issues with OLED TV's are fixed with input lag. When HDR is finalized and you don't have all these silly HDR bit complications.

Like with one TV with, to reduced the input lag with consoles you need to put it in gaming mode. Ok, thats fine but in gaming mode HDR isnt supported :confused: So how are you suppose to get the best gaming experience from the PS4 Pro and XBox One S!?!?!? And the manufacture has openly said this cant be fixed with a firmware update. So wait for their next model.

So that's why its best to wait till next year instead of getting one now. Especially with the price.

Does anyone know if you can use clubcard points against this? I've got 390 points and £56 in vouchers. I'm a bit pants when it comes to the clubcard, I never use it.

Update:

Looks like you can use your clubcard against it. Somehow I got £60 in vouchers off. Used the £25 voucher code on the OP post. As well as that, I'll hopefully get my quidco cashback too. All in all I've just paid £264 for this which ain't bad

OK there's too many things to explain in a forum post here but either the Pro isn't out yet nor the final patch for the one specific game you're mentioning, but more importantly just because you give the developers more powerful hardware doesn't mean they have the inclination or more likely the skill to get it running at a solid framerate.
You could give them a dual Nvidia 1080 setup and they could still mess it up.

What I said was this was is the console spec that both parties should have launched for at it's designed to do solid 1080p/60fps and good 1440p/30fps with a very good 4K upscaler, now whether they reach that is up to the skill of the developer and just because one game that hasn't been finalised yet on an unreleased console doesn't mean you can damn that whole thing before you've even seen it.

​No

I used the code provided on here plus my clubcard vouchers(£3.50+£4.00) yesterday

​Cheers for the reply.

Just completed the order using mine too.

TBF what you said was "but, the best reason why you should get is because it will do awesome 1080p either with solid 60fps or/and with super sampling game will look even better at 1080p."

I'm willing to bet very few if any current 30fps titles will run at a stable 60fps. I just can't see many 3rd parties willing to dedicate resources to make the pro patches run games at more than better settings. I've bought every console for the last 3 generations, if I knew that I could play most of the my games at 1080/60 I would have already pre-ordered, sadly this isn't going to be the case.

Getting itchy fingers.

I struggle to get 45fps with my 290x at 4k (still totally playable so I don't mind) so if the PS pro struggles to hit 45fps at 1080p what is the point of this console?

who would want to upgrade really? the Xbox majorly shrunk down is worth but the ps4 aint a big unit to begin with. just saying I can't see the point. I'd wait for the neo

Do we get topcashback?

This is the Neo, now called the Pro.

​lol sorry meant the next version which is more powerful. can't remember the name

oh wait that is the one. disregard all my comments and say I shall say no more.

"the playstation 5"

no just checked I was right. a more powerful one is out in November. please regard my comments agajn

Don't really see the point in the pro . be better off sticking to the original/Purchasing the original for cheaper, and saving up until the PS5 comes out.

Buying cheap and selling expensive you mean ?

You're right, that's anathema to good business :neutral_face:

This deal is for that very upgrade, the Playstation 4 Pro, releasing on the 10th of November.

Thanks for clearing that up. I will follow you from now on as my tech guru of choice.

I was going to hold out to see how noisy but buckled. With a friends staff discount comes in at £291. Now to punt my OG PS4.

I'm hyped for this. Day one must buy.

This is the more powerful one out in November. It is called the PS4 Pro. The other one that is released earlier is called the PS4 Slim, but will be marketed as the PS4.

Yes mate. I've just used the code for it myself. It gave me a delivery between 12/17 October. I just need to order the PS4 Camera, Aim Controller, Farpoint and some other games now.

So let me get this straight... Console players have spent the last three years saying "graphics aren't important, real gamers care about gameplay", but then spend £300 for the second time in three years to get a marginal graphical boost (still not even a consistent 1080p 60fps!). So that's £600 + £180 in online fees = £780. That £780 would have bought a kickass PC. Whoops. Let's not even talk about how much more expensive console games are, and that you have to pay £30+ for "remasters" and last-gen ports.

It's a shame you can only vote cold once.

You seem to be quite far from reality. This new console is nowhere near powerful enough for solid 1080p 60fps, and just forget about even seeing 1440p on anything other than Tetris. Blaming developers for failing to hit it is ridiculous.

Holding out for PS5 next year.

A few for sale on gumtree already.

No point bickering about anything.

If you don’t want a 4k Blu Ray player, don’t want native 4k gaming, don’t mind a console that looks like a big mac made from cheap plastic built in Taiwan and want a marginally more powerful PS4 that upscales games then this is the console for you.

If you want native 4k uncapped framerates build a monster PC for £1500.

If you want native 4k gaming, 4k Blu Ray, 4k streaming and forwards compatibility at an affordable price wait for Project Scorpio.

You mean this one - http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/sony-playstation-4-pro-ps4-pro-console-324-delivered-tesco-direct-2512217

I think we only need to look as far as the xbone elite controller to imagine how affordable Scorpio will be :laughing:

Thats my feeling. As much as I am a stickler to buying new technology im more than happy with my Samsung 1080p Plasma. Took me long enough to choose that to just loose money on tv and ps4 and then go hunting again for another tv.

As beautiful as the Oled 4k tvs look. Im even thinking of saving my cash and skipping the whole of this generation.
Skip Ps4 pro and 4k tv's and in a few year get PS5 and 16k or whatever will ve the next standard.

£180 in online fees, how?

Mine did once you need to ring them it's for fraud prevention

Are these the same people that are asking for £160 for a controller?...& you think the console with be "affordable", yeah OK.

​There won't be a PS5 next year.

Look at the price of new releases. Insane compared to standard BR and DVD.

Also that linked movie is now £20 pmsl.

​​​It'll (the scorpio) be affordable by the time it comes out, a year is a long time in technology and gives it plenty of time for prices on components to come down.

What do you consider affordable?

If they sell the console at any price under £500 they will be selling at a loss.

How so? The graphics card on the Pro is identical to the AMD RX 480 which for the price is the best card atm for solid 1080p gaming but also gives decent 1440p performance, and that is on PC which typically is not a optimised as consoles.
With the PS4 I'll give them the benefit of the doubt as the hardware's not as powerful, but with the Pro if they can't manage to give me solid 1080p/60fps there's no excuse, either they're not skilled enough or they have the wrong priorities, but yeah this time round the blame lies squarely is with the developer.

Im guessing it will be around £550

no way will be on par with the 480, probably around the 470 sort of spec, and remember it is using the same cpu which is already a bottleneck, they will overclock it a lil but not drastically

I was thinking around that or £599.

As we've seen before with the PS3 and XB1 anything north of £400 doesn't sell well and thats because it's not an affordable console.

£400-500 given the spec, I don't think they'll sell at a loss though. If you're looking at todays prices yes, but it's a whole year, prices will go down, new tech comes out, giving them plenty of time to nail down the component prices with manufacturers.

For those wanting to know the details on the trade in offer at Game...

PS4 Pro Trade-In Offer Terms and Conditions

TERMS AND CONDITIONS: Offer valid from 10th November 2016 until 16th November 2016. Purchase a new PlayStation Pro 1TB for £174.99 (normal price £349.99) when you trade-in an original PlayStation 4 500GB (B Grade or above) plus 5 different PlayStation 4 games (excluding FIFA 14 and FIFA 15) and use the total trade-in value received against such purchase. Offer available in store only. Ask staff for details of grading or to find out what your console is worth. Trade-in must be completed in the same transaction as purchase. A Game reward account is required to participate. Game reserves the right to refuse anyone believed to be representing a trade customer. Game trade-in terms and conditions and Game Reward terms and conditions apply please see http://www.game.co.uk for details. Trade in and cash prices are subject to change. The offer cannot be used in conjunction with any other offer, or with the We Won't Be Beaten policy. Store manager's decision is final.

3 years * ~£60/year (not sure of the exact number). You don't have to pay that on PC.

I actually bought Plasma at its death at the beginning of 2015, the last in the line of the LG productions with 5 years warranty, and glad I did...will wait until the market settles. I have said it before and I will say it again...the whole irony with 4K is ridiculous.

At one time people strived to get the best in audio, a lot these days are happy with compressed crap, yet want the best in picture quality and rushing to upgrade their 1080P sets with budget edge lit 4K TVs not even realising there is next to know reference level content out there.......and once again, having compressed crap.

The amount of people on HUKD saying that physical media is dead, yet even at 1080P, blu ray far surpasses both the bitrate quality of streamed services, as well as providing in many cases uncompressed audio.

Cue 4K.....the problem worsens, unless you buy UHD discs, even with H.265 codec being far more efficient than existing H.264 the best that Netflix is pushing out is marginally better than standard Blu Ray discs....and still not offering uncompressed audio.

Physical media is far from dead in those that want the best quality viewing experience aside streaming your own rips providing you have the bandwidth, paid services just don't cut it, and most certainly essential currently to get the most out of a 4K TV, clearly the streaming services are not offering much more than 1080P Blu Ray quality, the irony being that even with that many wonder why people buy Blu Ray instead of streaming....yet are happy to buy 4K TVs to be ahead of the curve....lol.

It's way too early to market, expensive UHD discs and players, a fight between budget LED lit LCDs, the array of Quantum/Nano dot TVs in another attempt to push more out of LCD and then in the true successor to Plasma camp the OLED still being very expensive.

Then, even if you cared less about film, it's clear that gaming this generation is most certainly not going to provide you with a proper 4K experience....granted HDR will make things pop on screen better with vibrancy....but I am happy to wait.

Admittedly anyone wanting to buy a new TV as of now or replacing a dying or upsizing from an existing one would do wise in investing in a 4K/UHD TV but seriously I would not be happy in a marketplace that has not matured...especially as not all 4K TVs are HDR capable even.

It's between £30-£40 depending where you buy it from.

Do you think a £700 PC 3 years ago would outperform the ps pro?

Not looking for argument or anything, just curious.

I just tried to put in a preorder and it is refusing to process it due to some sort of issue with the clubcard vouchers - claiming I either already have used them today (errrr, NO) or they have problems contacting the clubcard system.

What a load of carp the whole clubcard thing is - it must be the most convoluted possible way to run a discount system. If they don't get it sorted without me having to call them, I'm not going to bother to chase it up and will just buy the item somewhere else.

The chip seems identical to a desktop RX 480 but most likely underclocked/voltage'd to keep power and thermals down. How it will compare with desktop counterparts it's hard to tell as consoles are designed to cut any excess fat like windows and other overhead and in a 1-1 comparison game will always look/perform better.
As for the CPU, yes it can make a difference if the developer programs the game to take full advantage of it, but in the majority of cases it's far easier for them to dump all of the processing into the GPU for a number of reasons, so I don't think it's as much as bottleneck as people think it is. It is always better to invest on a strong GPU rather a CPU.

What I want to get through is that Pro should be more than capable of doing solid 1080p and even decent 1440p, even if it was gaming but some people seem to write it off because one developers comment about their unfinished patch on an unreleased system. C'mon now don't got nuts on some flippant comment you saw on Reddit or gamespot, use some common sense.

I think that's a good plan....I probably would have done the same but sadly my Plasma broke and my hand was forced....I'm not buying into PS4 Pro though...reeks of Sony trying to milk the cash cow between the PS4 and PS5...

Yeah I agree with you entirely.

Who would of thought that a good deal on a console could bring so many 4K experts. :smirk:

I was seriously, seriously going to drop some doh on a PC, i7, gtx 1080 sli cards, the works....BUT. Even THAT configuration was being reviewed as not providing a guaranteed stable framerate of 60fps @ 4k. If I was dropping that much loot, I damn well want to see that quality 100%. I don't think the graphics cards for PC's are just there yet, maybe another 6-12 months may be different, of course I am not deluded enough to think the Pro, with its specs can compare - but for the price Ill have one.

There is some truth here, when I went 4k in 2014 there was little streaming content - and it was variable quality then compared to the physical media, for example UHD videos through USB. Fast forward 2 years. Its still pretty much the same streaming wise. Upscaling a good quality HD source though with a 4k set does make a difference - but for pure 4k at full bandwidth, streaming is still very, very limited - if non existent. I might try one of the new UHD blurays for comparison (previously the 4k blurays were nowhere near 4k).

Yeah its a strange one. There isnt that much % of users yet bought into 4k.
So either they are doing it for:

A) They realised, anything but sport games in their new virtual reality headset, runs like toffee

B) They were hit with scorpio in the nads and have reacted with a mid upgrade as to take the wind out of microsoft sales.

C) 4k aint doing so good, so they hoping for a double (or even triple) hitter. By way of people investing in 4k TV's and hoping they get a Sony TV.

Whatever the reason, A/B/C or another entirly different reason. They sure confusing the consumer and trying to milk us for all our hard earned coin.

Just hope by (just like Apple) using the Pro monicker doesnt mean we will get a new console every year, just slightly better each time!

Believe me, when scorpio launches ans production costs come down. There will be a 4k player included in a new version of Pro.
The Pro4k

Amen!

can anybody recommend a hdr tv for this was looking for a oled but dont understand if its supports hdr 10

issue with tesco you got to pay now which sucks a bit.

Just bought with staff discout and code... Nice one op.. I owe you a beverage

Hmm.. Wonder if they'll be a deal as good that comes with games later down the line.

Inevitably so, but how long nobody knows - 6 months, 1 year?

Don't think amazon match tesco code offers.

LG G6 if you can afford £6k! :smirk:

Any of you good people have an opinion on how well the Asus PB287Q will play with the Pro ? It's a real 4K 10-bit panel so in theory it should be OK (other than the fact it's pretty small) but have a feeling it won't be as simple as that.

I would if i could but £2000 is my limit

Cant seem to find the answer anywhere. Can you put your own (2TB) hard drive into the Pro? 1TB simply isn't enough.

what about this http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/lg-55ef950v-smart-3d-4k-ultra-hd-55-oled-tv-10137727-pdt.html

for the price point you mention it's just about the best there is IMO. It DOES have HDR, but check to see if it has HDMI 2.0 too. Or call LG.

or save up a bit longer and/or wait for...

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/lg-oled55b6v-smart-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-55-oled-tv-10146230-pdt.html

which is this years model.

I don't know but I'll bet my right arm you can. Sony specifically designed the PS4 so you could upgrade the HDD. I've heard nothing about that feature being removed so.

When does the code expire can't even find mention of it on tesco direct?

shall i buy one to put on ebay...? they always go out of stock when they are realeased and spoilt kids go mad for them at xmas?

Also wanting to know the same thing, wondering if I can wait until payday with tesco taking immediate payment.

​You can't react to a competitors product within mere months and have it launch in the very year they supposedly reacted. It is logistically impossible. If anything, MS likely reacted to news some years ago that Sony was planning an upgrade system.

A reporter of Japanese news (Serkan Toto) once posted an article back in 2013 about a possible PS4 spec upgrade. It was pure speculation on his part. After the existence of a higher spec PS4 was announced by Sony in July 2016, this same reporter noted that Sony reps approached and informed him how they went into panic mode back in 2013 because of his article, since they thought info of their development of a higher spec PS4 had leaked. This plan of a higher spec PS4 was built in from the start.

And Sony have already stated that every three years (or rather, a mid-cycle upgrade release) is more than enough. Unlike MS who have stated they are done with system generations (pointing to a possibility of upgrades whenever), Sony has stated that generations are still a part of their plans. So, expect a PS5 sometime in 2019, then a Pro in 2022, then PS6 in 2025, and so on...

Thanks! £291.60 total bet they reject my order though using mums staff discount with it although they told me on twitter the delivery will need to be before the code expires an they can't do that as it's not out til Nov?

Is this really worth buying

Not sure I will go for this due to lack of money at minute so looking to buy a second hand PS4.

Looks like lots of people will be selling their original PS4! Drop me a DM if you are as I'm interested in buying one.

Offer ends 25/09/2016, says on the website.

Thanks, was just about to post here to say the same. I couldn't see the date afew days ago.

Plus Topcashback 2.1%

Thanks for this. Early Xmas sorted.

If Amazon are price-matching the Slim, Xbox OneS and New3DS then surely they'll price match this too?

No doubt it will drop in price quite quickly when the realize the error of their ways by not including a UHD disk drive, and therefore the Xbox One S taking sales off them.

You would think, would prefer Amazon tbh

So gonna pre order tomorrow and i know they take payment but if i see cheaper elsewhere if they start to do bundles os it fairly easy to cancel ny pre order and get refunded?

Yes mate, easy click of a button - if
It's prepping for despatch you need to phone them or just don't accept it from the courier

Thank for quick response - im really hoping that bundles with like fifa, skyrim, extra control and that gets released nearer the release date. Sold my ps4 today so looking forward to this one

Same here, sold my ps4 over 6 months ago - but plenty of time yet though so use this as insurance

LG OLED55C6V

This is still the best deal I can see online. Pretty incredible what you get for £325. The console itself can output near-4K visuals which is usually the reserve of £1000 PCs. Hot.

It's true, to get a -comparable- 4K experience on PC as you're getting on PS4 Pro with its upscale tech and you're looking at a considerable outlay.

I think the GAME trade in deal is pretty decent. Have been tracking eBay sale prices the last few days and they are generally around the £180 mark for the 500GB console on it's own. Knock £18 off that in eBAY fees and about £12 postage and you are getting £150 in your hand. Leaves you with the same price to pay via Tesco and you get to keep your games I suppose.

anyone else having issues with payment? ive contacted my bank and still seem to be getting a message that says:

Sorry your card was not authorised.
Please check your card details or use another card as you may be using a payment card we do not accept. If the details entered are correct, please contact your card issuer for assistance. For security, if payment details are entered incorrectly 3 times, you will be logged out and taken to the homepage.

:disappointed:

Can't make my mind up whether to order or not, just thinking closer to Christmas they might bundle a game.

Dishonoured 2 and call of duty legacy would be games I want. Any suggestions?

sorted now payment gone through :smiley:

sorted now payment gone through :smiley:

i thought this too - but ive got a few games currently that i still havnt finished that ill be able to use.

sold my current PS4 with two games for £250 so for a little extra to upgrade didnt work out too bad for me.

I'd say wait if you have nothing pressing you want to play, because by christmas they'll totally be decent PS4 Pro bundles. I'm getting this now just because I want to play FF15 on release before I get everything possible spoiled for me.

Yea I sold my 1tb PS4 a couple of months ago for £280 with a couple of games so isn't going to cost me much to upgrade. Just a matter a timing as want to get the most value as an in no rush.

Expected delivery Monday 14th November, wanted on release day, oh well.

​out of interest what samsung did you go for?

Expires today!

I just placed an order and the confirmation page said "expected delivery date Monday 14th November". The product page still says "pre-order now for delivery on release day", so I've emailed Tesco to ask which is correct.

I expect they will deliver for release date IME the delivery date they show on the order summary is a worst case kind of estimate, more like a 'you should have it before then'

I was considering getting it for the £25 off but having even £324 tied up for over a month with nothing to show for it is too off putting for me. Need to sell my original PS4 to get some money to put towards it, which payment on pre-order just doesn't allow....

How long dose the code last

i think it's expired now bro, Save £25 on a £150 spend with eCoupon TDX-HTNK. Offer ends Sunday September 25.

Confirmed: Tesco got back to me by email (how great is that, that you can just email them!) to say that Monday is just the end of the delivery window, but it is expected to be delivered on release day.

They delivered my Xbox one s on launch day so I am reasonably confident they will with this, but we have 7 weeks to go - we may see some better offers yet.....

Is a code likely to be available again before release? Thanks

Pure speculation but I think it quite unlikely since there is only about a month left. I expect though that if you can hang on till black Friday there will be at least equal, if not better deals to be had on it as long as it isn't an instant sell out everywhere but as many are annoyed about the lack of 4K drive and waiting to see what the new Xbox brings I doubt it will be that successful...

I missed the Tesco deal as I just didn't want to pay that much upfront. So now planning on waiting to see if there are any good pre-Christmas deals to be had. If not can always wait as I don't think we are going to see anything that amazing for it this year....

Thank you for your reply. I think I will hold out for Black Friday. I already have a PS4, so can use that in the meantime.

I put this through flubit last night and had it for £321.15 with Gameseek of it helps anyone.

Surely they'll be a Fifa or Skyrim bundle for similar price nearer the time?

Maybe. I will cancel the pre-order and get that deal if it comes about.

Does Tesco deliver on release day?

In my experience with the Xbox one s - yes

Deals expired

Zombie thread now for another 5 weeks where it will resurrect with all the will they/won't they deliver on release day posts lol

What game trade in deal

lol you will have to wait 3-4 days for the refund first from tesco, unless you can afford to order 2 which i can't

is this deal still working?

No.

​this only works if ur PS4 is immaculate. I took mi e in to check and in a certain light you can see a scratch on the shiny part of the top, so they said it wasn't grade B and wasn't accepted in the offer! check with the store before expecting this to work.
great offer if u can get it tho

​your not doing it right, take your ps4 to game ask them to trade in the ps4 then get them to price match cex who are buying for 164. add the 5% that they beat cex by and you have around 172. cex offer the 164 for discounted which is equivalent to game grade c. mine had scratches galore. its a better deal than the trade in. NOTE mine was a self upgraded day one 1tb (its 147 for 500gb)

just remember to keep the original ps4 till after you get your pro so you can transfer all your data over easily.

£332.49 now on tesco website is there no discount codes that work anymore ?

i changed my mind on this, im going to get a 4k tv first

you can backup your original ps4 to a usb drive easily, and copy it back to the pro

Obligatory order update post!

"Ready for dispatch"

Woo

Yes, I have the same. Will need to wait until Friday though

Despatched

Mines dispatched too. Question. Has anyone been refunded the £16.51 difference? I preordered at £324 using the code. It's now £332.49. Regardless of the code they should be refunding the difference.

I've also had dispatch confirmation. Does anyone know if this means it could arrive for the weekend? Or will it be timed to arrive on the release date? Thanks

I would hope it arrives tomorrow since that is launch day.

Oh, I seem to be confused. I thought it was Monday next week for some reason. Happy days, weekend sorted :-)

Just had a txt from DPD saying delivery is tomorrow.

Great thanks for the update.

Not thought about that, but I'm not chasing for that - happy with the price paid. It WILL be cheaper in the next 2 weeks for sure anyway.

I emailed Tesco about the money. Because the system saw that I paid less than the current price it didn't refund the difference. They refunded the difference by hand. Anyone wanting £16.51 back I suggest you mail them.

Thanks for bringing this up, I got a refund.

You don't need a USB drive - you can transfer from one to the other directly

how do you get the discount £25

Discount code is now expired but still a good deal especially when using club card points

i want a ps4 sony and games now