which is definitely a good thing. 2016 was brilliant.

anyway hot has multiplayer.

Wish this would be just a touch cheaper. Think my 2016 preorder was about £27.

great price but ordered fifa already

the demo felt very similar to 2016 to me... hmmm​

​yeah 2016 was brilliant just don't know if it's improved enough to buy straight away or wait a few months for when they do the patches

​I was angry by online a lot but just got fibre connecting it by a wire too and it was a lot better. still, it shouldn't be so bad on normal internet when other games cope well

Demo is awful! PES is history.

Got mine preordered already. 2016 (PES) was definitely a return to form. The only fixes I hope get addressed for 2017 is online, lag in particular. Online was noticeably slower to recognise joypad input. If this year online can play and feel as well as offline...PES is king again.

Does anyone know how long the price takes to go down? Getting it for the other half for xmas, love getting stuff in early but if it'll be down in a couple of months then I'll wait :wink:

An honest one? Played the demo on the Xbox one and it wasn't good.

In your opinion.

Ha ha Correct.

I agree give it a month and it will drop below £30. I'm waiting u too xmas to get all my games, felt ripped off last year with all the online discounts

PES over FIFA. Really?

Gonna Try PES first over Fifa this year.

Had PES the last couple of years now. Yes, the presentation of FIFA is way ahead. However, I get the game for the gameplay. PES wins here for me hands down.

I loved 2016 bit gave up on it because of lag cheaters. It's endemic online. If they fix that I'll be buying it.

Did clueless fella above said Pes is dead.. Better check metacritic for reviews chap for last year's game... The king is back Ign announced.. Of course everyone is entitled to have their own opinion but this fella above clearly has no clue lol

The Goalkeeping last year completely ruined the game for me. I bought it for £27, waited for it to be patched, never got fixed (properly), which has put me off PES now. And the fact that every time it takes them a good while to even have updated squads is pathetic. Usually, I look past all of their short-comings because of their gameplay (even when the gameplay was sh.it on PS3 I stayed loyal), but the keepers were ridiculous, and the speed they took/take to fix anything is beyond laughable. Don't get me started on online play. Sadly, Fifa deserves to be king, PES will never return to its former glory. It'll just be a game mostly played by (in the UK) the late 20s and middle-aged men.

Blah blah "licences" almost every thread with the same argument, download the option file online at launch and there's your licences and team names and whatever, then enjoy potentially more superior gameplay compared to the other side

Works out slightly cheaper to buy this on SimplyGames as it's the exact same price but can also claim quidco cashback through there.

.....and if you read what I put it wasn't a insult it was a fact. What a muppet.

Lol "fact", the only muppet is you for being too lazy to get the option file

As much as I am happy PES is much more enjoyable than Fifa (like the old days), I'm assuming MyClub will be released for free again?

If so really have no need to buy this..

This years game is looking great, the team are really getting to grips with the Fox Engine. FIFA whilst I'll play that also is on a new engine this year (Frostbite), so will take a year to show its potential proper.

Anyway thoughts on PES 2017 based on preview code: http://halfheartedgamer.co.uk/2016/09/lets-preview-you-pro-evolution-soccer-2017/

​agree i bought last years after trying the demo but online play was dreadfull so sold after 1 week

I played the demo last night, my keeper made the most incredible save I've ever seen on a console game, tipping a deflected shot on the post. I replayed it about 6 times....my biggest problem with 2016 has seemingly been fixed.

Mines out for delivery today from Simply Games!!!!!!

Played a few games and you will be pleased to know it plays quicker than the Demo, looks fantastic and Liverpool are Liverpool! Only downside is the teams are well out of date, ie Benteke still at Liverpool.
Very pleased with this so far, live updates not on yet so can't play My Club properly.

pes is more about simulation. if people are looking for a fantasy league then head over to pro evo network. for a community that supports fair play and a great set up.

i bought it 32.50 loll