You'll be eating a loaf a day smothered in butter to start with. :laughing:

Such a compelling argument you've put across, thanks. I haven't bought a loaf of bread since I got my panny breadmaker for £15 from a BHF charity shop, and that was 2 or 3 years ago. Also make homemade pizza every saturday, yum :smiley:

King of breadmakers.

do i knead it dough?

We had a fastbake , the loaf always sank in the middle and would tear when cut, I didn't think it kneaded the dough well enough.

The seal around the paddle started leaking after 6 months, however It was actually second hand from a friend who claimed to have only used it twice. Our current bread maker (a dual paddle lidl silcercrest) makes a much better loaf, and makes a bigger loaf despite being a more compact machine.

My first one last night was a disaster also. Tried the gluten-free recipe, and it has not risen, more like a brick :disappointed:

Any good offers at the mo anywhere on Panasonic breadmakers? Was pondering a Panasonic like the Panasonic SD-2511B Multi-Function Bread Maker at the right price or whether to just go for a cheap Morphy Richards 48280 Fastbake Breadmaker

Made my first loaf but it didn't raise to what i was expecting (wholemeal bread). It was still edible but like a dense bread rather than the soft thing I was expecting. Seemed the loaf had collapsed as the top had a well rather than a dome top
Basically followed the number 1 setting. The only thing I did wrong was the bread was on xlarge loaf setting but I was making a large loaf. Don't know what the difference when it comes to what the machine does.
Will try again tomorow

Think you would be better buying rolls. :smirk:

No, I got the SD-ZB2502 instead. You can't tell me what to do.

It would be nice if a little spare square pan was available for this machine, to do a smaller loaf (rather than just a flatter loaf).

Thanks to both you and Dereklogan for taking the time to reply, much appreciated

Just to elaborate a bit on dereklogan7's reply, the loaves are all the same length and width (they fill the pan's shape). The sizing options affect the height of the loaf

Think you should put your blog link in MISC as well for more people to see. Thanks, you've done a great job. :smiley:

Small, medium and large. :smiley:

We recently had a problem with loaves that were coming out heavy and not rising properly. I binned the yeast and bought a new tin. Think it had been lying open too long. Also realised it said on it to keep refrigerated, which we hadn't noticed before.

Might be a silly question, but does this produce small loaves too ?

We have used the Panasonic for around 6 years. We had a problem with bread no longer rising and I investigated why. All the answers are in blog link below - you will see from the many, many comments you are not alone! Try the lemon juice trick, we still do and no more 'flat' loaf bricks. As you'll see there is hardly anything that can go wrong with the machine if it mixes and heats up it works. The problem is the ingredients (or perhaps the 'missing' ingredient).

http://thechiefexecutive.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/panasonic-bread-machine-bread-not.html

I doughnut dough! :laughing:

​The doves flour recipe in the manual is better than the recipe on the packet of flour, in my wife's opinion.

​My local supermarket does a 1kg bag of wholegrain spelt flour for €1.55 it also has the yeast already in it and you just add water proof shape and proof again and bake in the oven for 30 minutes. Makes 2 delicious loaves and I always bring a couple of bags when I'm home in northern ireland to bake for my mother I'm sure you can buy it in the uk somewhere.

Well get one. :smile:

Buy it. :laughing:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Doves-Farm-Quick-Yeast-125g/dp/B00JZ41VKK/ref=sr_1_8_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1474383081&sr=8-8&keywords=yeast.

​I thought about buying one last year but I decided to try the old fashioned method first ie mix it, knead it and put it in the oven the bread turned out great so I'm sticking with this method.

This is the boss. No other breadmaker deserves your cash. Several years later and this beauty is still making the best bread since sliced bread.

I have Russell Hobbs 18036 bread maker and s good too.

You sir, get an applause. :smiley:

do i knead it dough?

​Even better!

​i heard Zujiroshi was better

does this have a timer? Can I set it to start at 05:00am ready for breakfast? nut/seed dispenser? is this as good as a zujiroshi? does it make croissant dough etc? why have I got so many questions?

They should be OK then. They do 2 kinds - green packaging and orange - are you using the green one?

Make sure you have quick yeast. I also think Doves yeast is superior. You can get the best flours from Sainsburys or Waitrose of course.

If you worry about the cost of a loaf of bread I wouldn't bother getting one. If you like cheap white bread then why bother.
But if you like nice fresh bread without having to go to the shops everyday. Or you like unusual breads like spelt or seeded etc. Or you make pizza lots or naan etc then this is for you.
The only times I dont get a perfect loaf are when I forget an ingredient, which for me is about 1 in 10 lol.

Thanks, I bought the single use packs of Allinsons so just cannot pinpoint why I am having problems. May just use to knead and bake in oven.

If you buy the yeast that comes in a green tin (Allinson's Easy Bake), get a fresh tin - it goes off/stale over time. The instructions on the tin actually say to store it in the fridge after opening (I never thought to look)

You should try a Panasonic maker then. In 7 years, the only duff loaves I've had were from some 'off'* yeast and when the battery in my scales was on the way out, making my measurements all wrong. It's one of the best things I've ever bought.

I use mine mostly for kneading the dough.

Occasionally make a loaf fully in the machine.

1. Throw away your ingredients and buy new.
2. RTFM
3. Maybe the machine is broken?

Please help guys,

I bought one of these a few months back.

First time, great bread but even though I bought scales and follow the instructions bread no longer rises etc.

I have been very disappointed.

Are there any tips for actual bread to come out right?

Thanks in advance

Please help guys,

I bought one of these a few months back.

First time, great bread but even though I bought scales and follow the instructions bread no longer rises etc.

I have been very disappointed.

Are there any tips for actual bread to come out right?

Thanks in advance

I don't think so. Looks like it will knead the dough but you will have to make your own starter and bake the dough in a normal oven. Hope someone with this model can help out. :smiley:

I don't need this. I don't need this... I bake my bread the manual way... but it would be so nice to have freshly baked warm bread in the morning, MUST RESIST ANOTHER IMPULSE PURCHASE!

Flubit just come back with £62.77

Not sure if to save even more or just go direct with Amazon. Its already a big saving and im sure Flubit came up on a forum a while bacj saying sometimes they come back with item out of order even if they have made you an order!?

So this model does the sourdough bread the same as the more expensive model?

​I use mine to make sourdough loaf but only for the dough side of it. after using the bread maker on one of the dough settings and leaving it for about 4 to 5 hours I then pour out onto an oven bread stone. sour dough starter is a separate process you need to do 1st but easy and once you have a starter you can fridge it. the bread is amazing, nothing like it in the supermarkets. ingredients just flour salt and water, nothing else...go for it!

You'll be eating a loaf a day smothered in butter to start with. :laughing:

I think 2500 v 2501 is seed tray difference. Thanks very much for your input. I've just spent £100 going backwards in my aim to keep healthy. :stuck_out_tongue:

This is the one I've got, you will be delighted with it. I thought the only difference between the two was the seed tray, maybe I'm wrong. :smiley:

I have gone for Panasonic SD-2511W for £95.00 . I'm not too sure if I've wasted £27, but it is sold as sourdough model, is a newer model, has nut/raisin dispenser and also is eligible for free Bread Machine Bible book.

​GMO flour...

I've got the one with the seed dispenser and have also never used that function. I usually add seeds when putting the mix in, so they go all through the loaf. Sometimes I add poppy seeds at rise stage before bake starts, but I find that damping the top of the dough helps them stick so prefer to do it manually.

That pizza picture looks amazing!

I would recommend this. my favourite feature I'd the bread making. the bread making is automatic.

Everyone bread maker i've seen has made half size dense damp loaves that taste worse than store bought. They all have what i can only describe as a 'yeasty' taste, oh and they lack the added vitamins of store bought too, so they are less healthy. Before anyone says it, its not just my loaves, ive tried breads from many others over the years, all of which were the same.

So, I decided to make my own bread the proper manual way, after several attempts i perfected it, it was a large lovely fluffy loaf like a real bakery loaf, but i still couldn't get rid of that god damn awful homemade 'yeasty' taste. I tried all sorts to get rid of it, timings/temperatures i even tried fresh yeast from the baker. I can only assume professionals use some type of conditioner/improve to get rid of the taste. Any bakers who read this, id please like to know how fresh bakery bread neutralize the homemade taste im alluding to. TY

I have the one with the dispenser and I've never used it. I just through in sesame seeds during baking process. :smiley:

Basic ingredients for large white loaf. (For those who don't know).

1 tsp yeast
500g strong bread flour
1.5 tsp suger
25g butter
1.25g salt
350ml water.

These are weighed in the tin. Set the menu and jobs done. :smiley:

Panasonic manual.:smiley:
http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/home-appliances/breadmakers/sd-2500.html

can you make sourdough bread with this?

The bread tastes much nicer than sliced loaves, yet works out cheaper than all but the most cheap and manky of supermarket own-brand loaves.

I think I worked out it cost me 40 - 50p a large loaf , excluding the initial cost of my breadmaker. Main costs 600g of flour, about 4g of yeast from a 100g tub, & 1/3 of a unit of electricity for my lidl one.

The bread doesn't keep, but I now slice it up and keep it in the freezer and nuke or allow to melt slices as I need them - I finally found a use for the electric carving knife.

Typically you can set a delay timer for the number of hours when the loaf will be ready to remove, and they keep the bread hot for an hour after it has finished to give you time to take it out of the tin, so the crust doesn't go soft.

I haven't got one, but I know people who have, and have done extensive research. So, here goes:

1 - Fresh bread whenever you want it. Plus, you know exactly what is in it. For me, also, pizza dough to save me getting flour all over the kitchen :smiley:
2 - Apparently, approx. 40 pence per loaf.
3 - No. Typically 2 - 3 days tops. But, I consider that good. Makes you wonder what crap they put in supermarket bread.
4 - From everyone I have spoken to, an overwhelming yes.

As these offers are usually limited in time or numbers. Can I just ask before im temoted into an impulse buy (yet again on HUKD)

In the past the bread maker along with the electric tin opener, smoothy maker and food processor, have always had flack as a one use item and then store away!

What is the key advantage of having your own bread maker?

Does it work out cheaper in the long run to make your own? How much does a normal loaf cost to make?
Does the bread last longer?
Taste nicer?
Or are they just for people who like to experiment with breads? (ohh dice some jalapenoes....jalapeno bread)

I like tecnology and have most of the living room items and now seem drawn to kitchen gadgets. Just wondered quickly what people think now a days about the bread maker and WHY, they buy them and continue to use them?

Hopefully someone has some time to answer and if theres some good plus points I can order one ans then start asking the questions like.......What else should I buy at the same time that would be useful? Can I set a timer for it to start cooking and finish when I get home from work? Whats the best/cheapest flour/yeast to buy etc?

Big thanks in advance to anyone who has a bit of time to answer my questions. Off to sleep now so hopefully wake to some answers and also stock (if im still tempted)

Thinking about buying one.
What do you do about yeast?

It also makes fantastic gluten free bread

While I've no doubt the validity of this product, I'm certain that bread makers must be in the all time top 5 purchase, one hit wonders, alongside exercise bikes, smoothie makers, weights benches and smart watches.

Got the SD-2511W the other day for £95 and can confirm that it's not worth the extra. Unless you want to use it for sourdough starters or as has been said, dropping bits of stuff in automatically rather than doing it yourself at the beep.

Yes. I am gutted I didn't wait for this (and wasn't telepathic).

Had one for years...best thing since (un)sliced bread! My kids won't eat normal bread crusts, but they fight for the crust of the loaves this thing makes!

Oh yeah, pizza dough also. I have one of those Ferrari pizza ovens, so this would be perfect. How long does it need to make the dough? Just wondering what the running costs are.

Do you use the pizza dough recipe in the manual or another one?

cant praise this machine enough... day in day out, great bread

Use your loaf , just buy bread

These are great machines, the nut / raisin dispenser is not worth the extra cost. Jump in!

Thanks, if that is all that is missing, then very tempted. I guess you could simply add any extras at the appropriate time.

you can use these just to make dough, e.g. for pizzas.

be warned you can put some weight on after buying one.

this is the best brand of breadmaker.

Had my panny sd257 for about 5 years and make about 3 loaves a week @ 50p a time
prefect bread (real bread) every time.
flour from lidl @0.75p does 3 loaves

Prime, cold.

How much does a loaf cost roughly to make in one of these (materials etc)

prime makes it cold

Anyone know the differnce between this and the SD-2501 for £30 extra?

Price matched Tesco(after code)

If you're after a bread maker, grab this one quick. Every loaf perfect. Highly recommend it. :smiley:

Got mine for 60quid a few years back and it's still going strong

King of breadmakers.