3GB :neutral_face:

False economy. You'll be upgrading sooner than you think.

There's no questioning the fact that games are getting larger and requiring more VRAM.

The 1060 is a 980 replacement. The normal 6GB 1060 does this well in terms of both horsepower and memory availability.
This gimped 3GB card should be bought by nobody. Nvidia need to get the message.

This has lower performance against the 970 on games like Hitman. Why? Because this has 3Gb VRAM while the 970 has (3.5+0.5) 4GB VRAM. I would advise against this for future proofing.

Who honestly buys a 179.99 GFX card to future proof?

That's such a garbage term when talking budget cards.

No card is future proof. Spend on a budget that suits you for games you want to play, consider replacing GFX cards on a rotation that suits your needs.

Offering advice on what *might* happen in the future is crazy and daft.

cheaper than these two featured not too long ago

How come this is cold? And how does the 1060 compare to the R9 290?

so the rx480 can be had for the same price or better?

​both are slower than their Max version. but I would say rx480 is better because of the extra gb in vram

but for the price though? cheapest I can find rx480 is £204.98 from scan. £25 more? for 1gb of gddr5? is it worth it? I wouldn't really know but surely the palit could be oc'd so the memory and clockspeed could match it on performance?

remember budget conscious :wink:

heat added. regardless of which is better for this or that , as far as i can see this cant be had cheaper anywhere else :smiley:

The 3gb 1060 is faster than a gtx 970, minus a gb. The 6gb 1060 is faster or equal to the gtx 980. Remember 3gb and 6gb have different core counts

3GB :neutral_face:

False economy. You'll be upgrading sooner than you think.

This has lower performance against the 970 on games like Hitman. Why? Because this has 3Gb VRAM while the 970 has (3.5+0.5) 4GB VRAM. I would advise against this for future proofing.

There's no questioning the fact that games are getting larger and requiring more VRAM.

The 1060 is a 980 replacement. The normal 6GB 1060 does this well in terms of both horsepower and memory availability.
This gimped 3GB card should be bought by nobody. Nvidia need to get the message.

I mean, at least you linked the article, but you say "hmm very interesting' as if you are trying to suggest there is a problem.

Hitman has been considered one of the worst designed games, in terms of performance, for all DX12 games.

Also, look at their conclusion.

The 1060 is not the 980 replacement. It's the 970 replacement. It's ahead of the 970, by a hair.

There is no questioning the fact that right now, 1080p, 60fps on high/ultra is absolutely great for the 1060 3gb card.

If that is your budget and that is what you want, this card is the perfect fit.

1060 is a replacement for the 960, surely. The fact that it performs like a 970, whilst using much less power, is testament to the strides made with pascal. The 960 was about £230 for the 2gb version upon release.

As others have stated; I don't think you're buying a mainstream card to 'future proof' yourself. Perfectly reasonable to save yourself £50/£60 and play on ultra settings, as opposed to nightmare. . .

Better buy no?

Sapphire 11260-02-20G AMD RX 480 Nitro+ 4 GB GDDR5 Memory PCI-E Graphics Card - Black
Sold by: Amazon EU S.a.r.L.
£187.73

I want a new GPU for 1080 only gaming (upcoming Forza, Gears etc) and the RX 470, 480 and GTX 1060 situation just gives me a headache. Still no idea what to buy.

No. The 1060 is the 960 replacement, but a combination of nvidia deciding to bump the price and a terrible exchange rate has pushed it up to 970 prices. It is currently overpriced for its place in the market.

not enough RAM for 4k gamers, or even 144hz 1440p

A £200 card for smooth 4k gaming is a dream at the moment,I don't care how much ram they shove in it.

Eh? Bumping the price of the... 1060? Its RRP is $250/$200 for the 6GB/3GB models, compared with $250/$200 on the 960 4GB/2GB, $300/$250 on the 760 4GB/2GB, and $300/$230 on the 660Ti/660...

It's a similar situation with the 1070 - it costs more than the 970, true, but compared with the 770, 670 and 570? The abnormally cheap 970 seems to have thrown everyone's pricing off. :/

am I right in thinking that the 4gb rx480 can be unlocked to 8gb or is this just a myth?

We are going back a few years, but I recall getting a 1GB card to save a few quid. It played all the latest games at the level I wanted, I was happy...for a while. I regret that call very much now, as so many games needed more and more compromise to get playable frame rates. We all have a cut off point with cost, but the saving on this compared to the 6GB is false economy in the long run. Get the best you can afford.

Dude. I don't need to be a psychic to know that games will soon require more that 3GB in the future bro. We all know it.

​so its not really a 1060 then sneaky nvidia

Sod this one, bring on the 470 performance equalling 75w 1050ti, that will be much more interesting.

Yeah, I think I am going with MSI 470 8GB for £215 on Amazon

Jumps from 180 to 350 with the 1060 to 1070... wtf they playing at? 280 is the 1070s god damn birth right why they ripping our eyes out....

"the GTX 1060, overall, is a best in class performer, winning seven of the eight benchmarks against AMD products in the same price bracket."

good pull quote from the link above....

for 1080 games it's alright really. I'm still using my MX 675m card (Overclocked) on my iMac... got doom running around 50-60fps on high. thinking about doing a budget build in 6 months or so, just nice to see what's out there for this kind of money. you can still have fun and see some great visuals with a low-mid ranger...

I asked my mum, she didn't know it, nor did my mortgage adviser. Check your facts.

Just like the 8gb RX 480 was meant to come in at sub £200. .

I paid £225 for my 960 around launch. I know for sure, as it is still on my order records on Ebuyer. The 970 was over £300 for a few months after release.

Wasn't aware that Nvidia considered the 1060 to be a replacement for the 970, though. Seems a little odd given the naming.

No, it's a 1060.

It's clocking in 3-4% less than the 1060 6gb.

Virtually equal.

Odd or not, they specifically talked about how each card matched up to the previous generation in terms of replacement strategy.

Not apples to apples, but what they considered each lineage.

It's pretty clear that a card released at 349.99 MSRP isn't a replacement for a card that was released at 259.99 MSRP.

Saverstore...i was given a deal by these guys on flubbit for a 1060, they held my money for 2 weeks before finally admitting they can't deliver it. They also ignored 3 support tickets during the 2 week period. Not cool...

Do you have a link to where "they" (presumably Nvidia?) specifically said that the 1060 replaces the 970 and the 1070 replaces the 980?

There are a couple of really, really obvious reasons why the £350 price for the 1070 is so much higher than the £260 970. Firstly, the 970 is by far the cheapest card in the xx70 line-up, which you'd know if you'd followed graphics cards for more than a couple of years. (We also know why it's so cheap! :wink:) For the 1060, this time the high-VRAM model launched first, while the 2GB 960 launched first last time, presenting an apparently much-cheaper Maxwell card at first glance.

Secondly... well, if you're still working your way through this year's news, I won't mention any spoilers, but for some reason the GBP has dropped nearly 20% this year. Funnily enough, £350 is nearly 20% more than £300. Coincidentally, the timing of the change in GBP value happened after the 1070 was unveiled, but before UK prices were announced - we were expecting an official price of £299.99, which fits what we've seen almost perfectly.

In the rest of the world, the line-up is mostly as it should be (although in Canada and Australia we were enjoying a much stronger $ when the 970 launched, so we do have a slightly similar situation!). The 1060 and 1070 are replacements for the 960 and 970, just as the 960 and 970 were replacements for the 760 and 770, and the 660 and 670 before them. (It's worth checking out those older launch prices if you're new to graphics cards and can't understand why the 1070 does cost more than the 970.)

Nvidia is not a British company (gasp) and the cards are not manufactured in Britain (shock, horror). Please don't apply UK pricing to reason out which cards replace which from a US company. We voted for these prices, and now we've got them.

Regardless, my point was that the 980 (and 970) has more memory than this version of the 1060. Bonkers.

Out of interest, do you own this card by any chance?

I do not, do you?

This is only 3GB of memory people, that is woefully short these days for a card at this price. You'd be mad to buy this when there are 4GB cards (RX 480s) or even 8GB cards (cheaper 470s) that cost the same amount. DON'T BE FOOLED.

Not a chance.
Do you even have to ask? :stuck_out_tongue:

you really wont be dissapointed

I don't think you've read / understood my post properly. At no point did I say that performance should be comparable between the 1060 and 960. Quite the opposite.

Hi, I'm sorry, I guess you already provided a link to where Nvidia said the 1070 replaces the 980 and the 1060 replaces the 970, as requested before, but it doesn't appear to have shown up - perhaps the moderators didn't approve your comment? Would you mind trying again, please? Or at least describing the specific source, if the mods aren't allowing you to include the actual link?

It would be absolutely mind-blowing if it's true, as it seems like utter **** on the face of it (and, indeed, after any amount of thought or research), so I'm sure you can understand why I'm curious.

there's an rx480 with 4gb of ram that you can unlock via bios to 8gb . a saving of £30...
xfx, sapphire etc should all have the 8 chips on depending of its a early manufactured model.

​ hate to be that guy to ruin an nvidiots day again but DX12 and Vulkan IS the future. Also more vram = more future proof lol

You also compare with release drivers. AMD have recently had a driver update which increases draw calls in dx11 and opengl by 20% for example.

http://videocardz.com/61002/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-to-feature-6gb-192-bit-memory

How do you want your humble pie?

Dx12 maybe, but Vulkan? I reserve judgement till games release with high quality Vulkan implementations. Doom is an oddity as they have open to as their first class release.

You might want to check the link you just shared, as that doesn't have anything to do with Nvidia claiming the 1070 replaces the 980 or the 1060 replaces the 970. :neutral_face:

If you mean the slide shows the replacement order... no, it really doesn't. It simply shows the line-up order of cards from Inno3D (as it's their slide, not Nvidia's). If you mean that the alignment is supposed to mean something... no, I won't finish that thought, as I don't want to imply you're that stupid.

I'm assuming you just copied/pasted the wrong link, as no-one with English as a first language would make such a silly mistake as to think that link was relevant, so would you mind sharing where Nvidia "specifically" (your word) said the 1070 replaces the 980 and the 1060 replaces the 970? Really, absolutely, genuinely curious, as it's so incredibly unbelievable! :man:

I get it. Your one of those kinds of person who does anything, no matter how pedantic or offensive.

http://techreport.com/news/29999/rumor-nvidia-kills-some-maxwell-chips-ahead-of-june-pascal-launch

The discussion of what card is aimed at what Maxwell is all over the web. You offensive personal insults don't change that.